Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Let me get my record button going here. Thanks for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Monday, and it is the first day of August, in the year 2005. And I hope you had a lovely weekend, folks. A nice weekend, or peaceful, or fun, pleasant, loving. I hope you had a nice weekend. And Alan Watt is with us, this evening. I was looking for something that I wanted to share with you tonight, and I’m not finding it. I apologize for this. Oh, here we are. This is what I wanted to do tonight. This is Saint Francis of Assisi’s Prayer, for our spiritual message. “Father, make me an instrument of your peace. Where there is hatred, let me so love. Where there is injury, let me so pardon. Where there is doubt, faith. Where there is despair let me sow hope. Where there is darkness, let me sow light. And where there is sadness, let me sow joy. Father, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to understand, to be loved as to love, for it is in giving that we receive. It is in pardoning that we are pardoned and it is in dying that we are born into eternal life.” And dying, you know, well of course, dying is what we call leaving this physical body. Death. And maybe dying is also, it just occurred to me as I was reading this, folks, maybe it also means giving up the old, if you would, the lies. Maybe it means the rebirth, if you would, right here in this physical world of coming into the truth, coming out of the lies. I don’t know. It’s just a thought I had. Alan, thanks for being with us tonight.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Yeah, cold and all.
Alan: Cold and all. Yeah.
Jackie: Well, you’re sounding a whole lot better. Alan has been kind of down with a cold, and he was kind enough to come on with us this evening, folks. Alan, I have a letter here from a listener. I’m not going to read the entire letter, but I wanted to address this, and probably you’ll have some relevant comments to make. And first, I want to thank our listener, who sent this to me, because I know that it was sent out of kindness, out of the goodness of your heart. It mentions a book, and the listener said that they heard the week before or two weeks before, and found out about the founding of America, Alan, and the Revolution and all that, and he said that I sounded despondent. And so, he sent pages of a book, or she, because the individual just said, concerned citizen. But the book is called Oashpe. Evidently it’s published by the theosophical society. And it says that America’s history is in this book. 25,000 years of history. And according to this book, America was ordered by the ordained, or ordered by the creator to bring liberty and light to the world. And that America was to be used to bring the, I’m not sure, it’s handwritten, I don’t know if it’s Cosman or Coman Era in, but according to this book, Oashpe, Thomas Paine is the father of the American Revolution, and that seven of the founding fathers were graded 80 in the angelic realms, and it shows George Washington was under the guardianship of 1000 angels. And when I read this, it reminded me of me some years back, because I had read a book, I think it was called Climb the Highest Mountain, and I cannot remember the group that put it out. But there was a section in the book, it was about the White Brotherhood, Alan. And there was a section in the book about the Constitution, and how they were present, and how the Constitution was divinely inspired and as I told you recently, not too long ago in a conversation, I believed that that was true. And I believed that there could have been whatever we would call them, higher beings, there guiding our wonderful founders. And I would like to say, once again, thank you to our listener who sent this, and I want you to know that I did feel that way at one time, but there’s enough evidence, there’s just too much evidence. George Washington was an illuminist. He was a, was he a member of the Grand Orient, do you know, Alan?
Alan: He was a member of the Beenan Orden, which was the Illuminati Order; they use the beehive as their symbol. And every Illuminati Lodge was styled after the beehive. In all the Masonic paintings, the official Masonic paintings of Washington, you’ll find the symbol of the beehive generally down towards the bottom of the portrait.
Jackie: You’ve got that photograph in one of your books. Is that the first book?
Alan: I think so, yeah.
Jackie: It’s a photograph of a painting of George Washington, and there it is, the beehive down in the corner. Thomas Paine?
Alan: Well, Thomas Paine is a pain alright. You’ve got to remember, a lot of these guys adopted names of previous famous people, or else they were direct descendants of people, because one of the founders of the Knight Templar, his last name was Payen, which of course, put it into the English and you’ve got Paine.
Jackie: Payen, what language was that, Payen?
Alan: From the French. One of the nine knights, as they say, the nine knights who founded the Templars, one of them was Hugh de Payen. And so, it’s no coincidence that you end up with a Payen, or a Paine, who was a world revolutionary, because once he was finished, he came from England after trying to get revolutions going there.
Jackie: Thomas Paine did?
Alan: Yeah, and he went to the U.S., and then he went over to France afterwards too.
Jackie: Probably he went over there with Lafayette.
Alan: Oh, he did. He was part of the Revolutionary in France, and he eventually got locked up by the guys who were leading the Revolution. It took a lot of pull from the US to get him free.
Jackie: Why’d they lock him up?
Alan: These were international revolutionaries.
Jackie: Well, why would they lock him up if they were the guys that were behind the revolution?
Alan: Because he thought it was getting out of control with the killing, or the bloodlust. He thought they would kill off the nobles, but they started to start to chop off the heads of ordinary people once they’d finished with the nobles, and he interjected to try and stop that. And that wasn’t part of the agenda, obviously, and so they locked him up as well. And I think he also didn’t agree with the end of the revolution. It was supposed to continue into other countries, and cause world revolution. That’s also what he objected to, was basically they made it localized, just in France.
Jackie: So, in other words, then it sounds like the possibility that Thomas Paine actually believed in the revolution, because, you know, Alan, this is the thing that makes them seem so right, is that the feudal system under the monarchies. The people were enslaved, and of course, what we read is that the revolution is what got rid of the monarchies, and gave the people the democracies and all that. But is it a possibility that Thomas Paine actually thought it would be a good thing for the people?
Alan: It could very well be so. It’s difficult to tell with a lot of these guys, because in a sense they’re all politicians. They say one thing to the public, but they also do the opposite. It’s difficult to say if he truly believed in this world revolution or he knew there was to be another plan that took over once it was completed. It’s really hard to tell right now. I also know that the world revolutionaries were being trained from the 1500s onwards. It’s like John Wilkes Booth, that shot Lincoln, John Wilkes Booth, he was named John Wilkes after a famous revolutionary of England, who kept getting locked up in the Tower of London for trying to cause revolutions in England. So his father named him after this revolutionary. So this is in the family type of thing. These guys were literally being taught and reared from childbirth to be revolutionaries. And of course it continued.
Jackie: So then they did believe in it.
Alan: And even then though, you see, to the ordinary working Joe who was basically illiterate, it was no different from the Communist, in fact, the Communist Party took over from the World Revolutionary Party. It was one and the same thing. And the guys at the bottom were given a different spiel about what the outcome was to be from the guys in the upper management level of the revolution. It was to be a scientific social revolution, where an upper elite would eventually run the lives of everyone at the bottom. Of course the working man was told something completely different. But they need the ordinary people to support them, the mob as they called them, to get them behind them and to fight for them. And that’s what they did in Russia too, for the Soviet Union.
Jackie: Yes, and under those systems, the systems under which the people lived then, you know, you could understand the people wanting to be out from under it.
Alan: Sure, and they really thought they were going to make themselves free. But just as we saw what happened in the Soviet Union, if we jump back to the French Revolution, we see the emergence of a much, much deeper and long, you know, something that was planned out long before, obviously, because they had population reduction, population control, whole departments set up for this. They started to kill off people in the rural areas, because they wanted a certain figure in every region as they called it. And they were sinking people by the boatloads, just because they lived on this part of the land, and they wanted a fixed population, vastly reduced from what it was. And these were ordinary people they were killing, just peasants.
Jackie: Just to reduce the population.
Alan: That’s always been part of this agenda. And it was the same in the Soviet Union. The Soviets slaughtered so many millions that no one can actually put a definite figure on it. It’s over 60 million anyway, well over. And also, it was standard in the Soviet Union.
Jackie: When we say 60 million people, oh, 60 million people were slaughtered, a person has to stop and literally think about that. You think about, I thought about this. I thought about, Alan, I’m saying this for our listeners, to really get it folks, what he just said. For example, New York City, how many people are in New York, about, do you know Alan?
Alan: Oh, I have no idea what it would be now.
Jackie: We’ll say 14 million maybe.
Alan: Yeah, in the greater.
Jackie: Yeah, in the greater, we’ll say 15 million. Okay, we’re talking 50 million. And I think about, okay, picture a city, let’s say with the population of New York in it, and going into that city and every single individual in that city is dead. It brings the numbers into some sense of reality, because that’s so far out to imagine that they could have killed 50, 60 million people. That is just almost beyond our ability to conceive of that.
Alan: And yet that was all part of a long-laid strategy, a plan, because Lenin, who obviously was tutored from childbirth for his particular coming role, started the Reign of Terror, exactly what they did in the Revolutionary France, the same technique. When you have no external enemy, no immediate external enemy, to control the public, you must create a terror within. And that’s what the Soviet Union did. They started to pick up ordinary citizens, next-door neighbors, anybody would do. In fact Lenin sent out gangs of henchmen, and he told them, Trotsky talked about this in his book called “My Life” and Lenin ordered these gangs just to go into rural areas, and take a dozen men from each little place, hang them from the trees, and leave them there to rot. He said that will strike terror into the peasantry and they’ll do what they’re told. This is what you’re dealing with with these great heroes, you know. You’re dealing with absolutely ruthless sociopaths, and they look upon the ordinary people, the champions of the working man, eh. These people look upon the ordinary people as the lowest scum that walks the planet. That’s what Communist followers can never get through their heads. It’s a Scientific Socialism, based on Darwinism, which is the right of the fittest to survive and rule those who are less equipped to survive. That’s the whole doctrine, really, of Communism.
Jackie: And they create the situation, or the environment, where those that are, you know, less able to survive, that’s why they’re less able to survive.
Alan: Yes, indeed.
Jackie: Because of the conditions. They create those conditions.
Alan: Yes. It’s almost like someone having a cow and breaking the legs of that cow, and then being disgusted that the cow can’t get up. That’s what you find with the elite.
Jackie: That’s a wonderful analogy.
Alan: They cause the problem, and then they despise the people who are sick or starving and unemployed and all the rest of it. So that’s typical of how they rationalize everything they do. They always blame the victim rather than blame themselves, and that’s psychopathic behavior.
Jackie: Well, you know, getting back to the American Revolution, it would be different if there wasn’t so much evidence to point otherwise, the possibility, because it all made sense to us as we were growing up, and oh, this was the war for independence, you know, from Britain, but it’s George Washington who was so big a part of that who was, he had Royal Blood, I understand. He was an illuminist.
Alan: He was trained by the British army.
Jackie: Yeah. And they knew exactly what America was being founded for, to do exactly what it’s doing today.
Alan: And they put up that big obelisk in his honor. It wasn’t a Christian cross. It wasn’t anything to do with Christianity. It was an Egyptian obelisk they put up there for him.
Jackie: Right, exactly. And what’s his name, Thomas Jefferson.
Alan: And Thomas Jefferson was an admitted illuminist. In fact, Thomas Jefferson in his own memoirs writes about Thomas Malthus whom he corresponded with. And Thomas Malthus was the guy who came out with the economic policy for killing off the excess population, due to economic reasons and how to feed them and starve them so they’d be too weak to run off on a plantation, that type of stuff.
Jackie: And you know, there’s always these wonderful quotations you can find like the one that George Washington, I think it was his speech when he left office at the end of his presidential term and said, you know, to beware of tangling alliances with other nations and all of that. They had the American people in debt to Great Britain, right after the Revolutionary War, with the Peace Treaty. And even in the Constitution, all the debts owed to other nations have to be paid. And it was the banksters. And George Washington was the one that signed the first Bank of America in, what was it, a twenty-year thing that they had?
Alan: That’s right. So, sure, I mean it’s a serpent as they say, they always use their symbols in everything, and the Bank of America, BOA, is a boa, like a boa constrictor, you know. Put a Z on the end of it and you’ve got Boaz, you know, almost.
Jackie: Now, who was Boaz?
Alan: That’s the Masonic Towers. There’s always Twin Towers, the male and female, Jachin and Boaz. Boa, Boaz means also the serpent. And that’s why boa is a boa constrictor. It’s a serpent. So, the Bank of America has the clue right in it. These guys don’t make any mistakes.
Jackie: No. Well, let’s be careful, because they mean what they’re saying, in other words. But I don’t, I don’t buy it that they don’t ever make mistakes.
Alan: They literally created the language. The language we use is theirs. And that’s what I mean by attention to detail. They don’t come out with any abbreviations without there being another meaning behind it. Everything is like that.
Jackie: In other words, that’s not a coincidence.
Alan: No, it’s not.
Jackie: Right, they know what they’re doing.
Alan: And of course then they brought Jacob Schiff over just in time for the American Civil War, and Schiff was doing the same deal. He was even involved in the ownership of the companies that made the uniforms for both the North and the South all through the Civil War. One of them you just simply dyed blue, the other one was gray, but they were identical otherwise. So it’s just one scam after another, but the people keep falling for it. That’s the problem. We never learn, you know. Think of the money too that was also borrowed for all the wars since the American Revolution. There’s trillions and trillions supposedly in debt, although it’s all bogus, and we know it’s bogus, but as long as everybody believes in it, it goes on. And I can remember when the US owed one trillion dollars. And at that time they said if you put dollars end to end, it would stretch around the moon and back. And I don’t know how many trillions of dollars the US owes now. So you can’t pay this off, ever, and it’s not intended to be paid off, obviously. How can you pay it off when your industry has gone overseas?
Jackie: Well, it couldn’t be paid off anyway, because it’s debt. It’s loaned into circulation. It’s a debt to begin with. And then they never print enough of these paper dollars and fives and whatever. They never print enough to have it in circulation to pay off the interest.
Alan: And also, a debt, if you are a debtor, you see, you are in slavery. If you are borrowing money, and you owe money, technically, even by the Old Testament rules, which are the Masonic rules, you are a slave. And everyone now flashes the cards for everything that they want.
Jackie: No, not everyone.
Alan: Well, the vast majority.
Jackie: The vast majority, yes.
Alan: The vast majority do that. It’s a normal way of life now. In fact, they did studies recently, and they found that, I think, 70% of Americans and Canadians now are using the debtor cards and so on, and they don’t handle cash at all.
Jackie: The debit cards, yeah. I would venture to say that the majority of our listeners on Sweet Liberty are not of that ilk that you were talking about. Because I get many, many of the donations that come in from money orders or cash. And because so many of our, I believe a lot of our listeners don’t even have checking accounts. I have one. You know, to pay. I pay my public bills with it. You know, like the gas and electric and phone. But that’s all I do. Everything else I do, I just do it cash. And it’s just a principle. It’s none of their business where I’m spending my money.
Alan: They also admitted now that they’re issuing the same ID cards, it’s to be used in the States, they’re issuing it now in Britain. And they’ve also admitted it’s now also to be used for your banking, as well. So it is to be part of the cashless society.
Jackie: Didn’t they bring that out right after that? Wasn’t it recent that they brought it out?
Alan: Yeah, they did.
Jackie: Right after that bombing.
Alan: Right after the fortunate bombings that happened right at the right time, when Blair was about to get tossed out of Parliament for all his lies, these friends, these terrorists, just helped him out there, you know. It’s amazing how they always come to their. I noticed that with George Bush too, each time that he was plummeting in the polls, Bin Laden just magically would send out another video saying ‘We hate America.’ And Bush would come out and make his speech, and be the strong man, and suddenly his polls would go up again. It’s such a pantomime, you know.
Jackie: Well, I’ll tell you, Valentine, she’s the lady that has, and I haven’t mentioned this in a while, so I should. She did some really awesome stuff, you know, on these videos, these alleged videos by Osama Bin Laden, and she put each of them side by side by side, and every single one of them were different people Alan. She did an email of that thing, and it was just amazing.
Alan: Yeah, as I say, isn’t it amazing that it’s always when they need something to happen that something always does?
Jackie: Well, remember Clinton. Where did he go bomb? Right around the Lewinsky scandal.
Alan: Yeah, that’s right. I remember that too.
Jackie: Yeah. Sudan?
Alan: He was dropping the cruise missiles over Iraq, every so often.
Jackie: Well, they were doing that ever since the first Iraq war.
Alan: Oh, yeah. I know.
Jackie: They were doing bi-weekly bombing runs. They had that country just absolutely blasted away before even the second Gulf War started, the Iraq War started.
Alan: As I say, the revolution goes on, and what we’re living through now, is simply the next phase of the revolution, which is into the society, which they’ve written well about, in detail, in many publications, that’s to be run by the experts and there will be no private rights of any kind for the ordinary people. And they want a very controlled population, right down to the exact number that they actually need for any particular job. Eventually, in the future they said that no one would be allowed to have a child unless they have a function for that child. So this is the next part of the same ancient revolution that’s just ongoing, which they call scientific Socialism. It’s run by Fascists at the top, of course, but it’s a Socialistic, Communistic Bureaucracy System that’s used to control all of the people.
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Jackie: I received a letter from a new listener, Alan. And this is the gentleman that had called you. He had sent a donation. He said he had been a listener for approximately two months, and he said, “I find your program quite an eye-opening, myth-busting experience.” “I admire your courage to put this kind of repressed information out before the whole world. Count me as a person that your show is in the process of ‘waking up’.” He said, “I’ve sent for Alan’s Book I. Last evening I spoke to him, via phone, to elaborate on some points I’ve heard him make on your show. He’s a fascinating as well as enlightening person. Thank you for having such a guest, as well as the access.” And that’s from Bill in New York. And Bill, thank you. I appreciated that. It’s nice. I always enjoy hearing from our listeners. And it’s nice to know that we have new listeners coming in, that are waking up, Alan. Because there could be no other reason for doing this broadcast if it wasn’t just to. And sometimes it does seem like a downer. I would like to do a broadcast one time, that’s uplifting. You know what I mean? But it isn’t the truth. Well, it isn’t very. It is uplifting to know the truth, but the truth can hurt. And I do know that. And I think there’s enough research and resourced information there that you will understand why I no longer buy into the America, the land of the free and the home of the brave that never was, from the beginning. It just never was. And I’m going to let Alan give you the information now on how you can get his books. Alan, go ahead, please.
Alan: Yes. There are three of them. They’re called Cutting Through, One, Two, and Three. [See ordering information on transcript.] And I’ll send them out just as soon as I can. And they go through a lot of the history of Freemasonry, pre-Freemasonry, and I go back thousands of years to show you how the money system was taking over countries, 2,000-3,000 BC, and how the armies were formed once they had the money system in circulation, and then they used one army to simply go and force the same system on the neighboring country, or the neighboring tribe, and this has gone on right up to the present time.
Jackie: Yeah, that’s what’s so mind blowing, to realize that it just goes back and back and back. And it’s the same thing as like when you were telling about Sumer. At least 6,000 years ago. And the guy who wrote the book, what was it called, Alan? On Sumer. What was the name of the book?
Alan: The book on Sumer was Life Begins at Sumer, and they have a blurb there. It was written on slate by, they think it might have been a student, because they had a tremendous school system, 5,000 BC for the bureaucrats, these guys who become the priests, specialized priests in different areas, even real estate ones, and other ones went into law, and this guy said, I looked from the east to the west horizons and I see nothing but government buildings. And they taxed the people for everything, he said, when they’d bring in the fish, they were taxed for catching the fish. They were taxed when they sell the fish. He said, and even when the relatives come to the grave sites to put offerings on the graves, they come and they take the death duties, the death taxes. They take the food from the graves. And this was all government officials, 5000BC.
Jackie: And you’re saying that this book was initially written back then?
Alan: Oh, no. I mean the translations.
Jackie: You said it was written on slate. Oh, he found all the information on slate.
Alan: They’ve dug up so much writing from Sumer, it’s just amazing.
Jackie: And they’ve been able to interpret the language or to, what do you call it?
Alan: Oh, yeah. They have it down to a fine art, and it’s nothing like the one that Zechariah Sitchin invented. They’ve dug up the remains of old schools where children at five years old and six years old who had been taught geometry and so on and trigonometry. This is common. So, man is far, far older than they’d have us believe, and they had advanced systems thousands of years ago. I’m sure Sumer simply was a sort of revamped system, a new system of a new age of its day, but there’s no doubt that the knowledge came from a much earlier civilization. And they do talk about it in the tablets of Sumer, that at one time there were advanced civilizations and tremendous earthquakes hit the whole planet, and some of the continents sunk beneath the waves and took the cities with them, and new continents arouse out of the sea. So, man is far, far, far older than they’d have us believe. Of course, they don’t want us to understand or even know that, because science has always been so far advanced from what the public will ever, ever know about. The gimmick is to make the people believe through the publications that they give us that they’re just working on this, and they’re looking forward to improving that one day, or inventing something. This stuff has all been done long ago. That’s why it’s called re-search.
Jackie: yeah, like hydrogen cars.
Alan: Yeah. Research.
Jackie: I read an article from California, some guy that had a hydrogen car, to use, I think it was from, oh, what the heck, oh, I can’t remember. Demler, Dambler. He said it cost a million dollars to build that car. He was able to use it, so that he could experience it and then write about it. It was in, maybe The Chronicle, one of the California papers. But, Alan, what hogwash. They say, oh, that technology is about ten years down the road.
Alan: I know. No, you see, it was never intended that the American public drive forever. They only gave you that transportation during the industrial era. China is now having their industrial era, so they’re putting down roads, they’re giving them cheap cars and cheap gasoline.
Jackie: And do you know that the automobiles that are being manufactured and sent to China have none of the emission controls on them?
Alan: No, they don’t need them, and they’re pretty well hogwash anyway.
Jackie: Yeah, right. They’re trading off the air. They’re trading off the air pollution.
Alan: That’s right. You pay a fee for it. It was never intended. Once America had finished its job, which it hasn’t quite done yet. It’s got to force the last of the remaining Moslem countries into the same system of democracy as they call it, with a central banking system, their debt system, and their paid politicians for front people. That’s the last job that the US has to do. And as it’s doing it and finishing it off, they’re dismantling America back home. That’s what they’re doing.
Jackie: Yeah, do you want to hear something? This came right from the US EPA, Environmental Protection Agency’s website, that there is a partnership between the US and Israel to monitor the quality of drinking water, Alan.
Alan: Well, actually, in 1967 the UN had its first water meeting in Israel. And it was in the newspapers at the time, and they said that water would be one of the prime moneys of the future. It would be actually used like money. And that Israel was heavily involved in the planning for the future shortages of water. So, I’m not surprised, you know. That was in the newspapers at that time.
Jackie: Yeah, well, US and Israel partnership.
Alan: They have partnerships across the world though, with just about everybody else, with one deal or another. And it’s not a country either, you see. We keep falling into this trap of believing there’s a country there or a country even here. There’s always a handful of people that run every country, including Israel, you know.
Jackie: I suppose. I don’t know if Israel is a corporation or not. But the US is actually, literally incorporated.
Alan: Yes.
Jackie: And do you think Canada is, is Canada a corporation?
Alan: All British Commonwealth countries are. That was where it first came from, was England.
Jackie: And, you know, comment on this. You know, George W Bush the President appointed Wolfowitz to be the head of the World Bank. How is it that the US President is in that position to appoint head of the World Bank?
Alan: Well, he’s told what to do.
Jackie: That’s not the point.
Alan: It’s just to fool the public.
Jackie: What, like the World Bank is under the authority of the US?
Alan: That’s what I’m saying. It’s to fool the public. The public must believe their government is real.
Jackie: Well, you know, it occurred to me, and it just occurred to me today, that maybe the World Bankers, the International Bankers own the US corporation now. Maybe they own the corporation now. Maybe they own the corporation, Alan.
Alan: I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
Jackie: Because, otherwise, how could you, okay. I mean it’s just there has to be an explanation how the US President appoints the head of the World Bank.
Alan: Well of course it’s nonsense. The President is only a front man. The Prime Minister of Britain is only a front man. And that’s well understood in Britain.
Jackie: Well, I know that. I know they’re front men. I know they’re puppets. The point is, there has to be some legality here. You know, they got this twisted, you know, legal system. The Treasurer, the Secretary of the Treasury is the Governor of the International Monetary Fund, Alan. And I’ve got the newspaper article that says it. I mean, I know newspapers lie too, but sometimes they print the truth.
Alan: They have to fool the public to make them believe their government is real and powerful.
Jackie: But what does that tell us about the US government inc? If we aren’t a closely held corporation by the international bankers. It, I should say, not we, but we are the, what do you call it, the assets.
Alan: That’s right. We are. We’re supposed to keep paying off the debt, and your children’s children and so on, for evermore, you know. So that is true. We are all collateral for the debt.
Jackie: Collateral, yes.
Alan: And that’s no different from the feudal system. That’s what you were. You served the lord. You had no rights whatsoever, because you were born into slavery as a slave. Only they called it serf. They changed the English language a little bit, and called them serfs, because slavery was a bit too upfront, you know. So they hid it behind the term serf, but yeah, you own nothing. You gave 60% of all your produce to the lord. And what was left had to feed you, your animals and your helpers, you know. And when you work out the income taxes today and the hidden taxes, the average person is paying about the same amount of money in taxes. So serfdom or feudalism is still here.
Jackie: Oh, I bet lots more today.
Alan: It’s actually more in Britain, actually, and Canada. So this con game has gone on forever. And it was Charles Galton Darwin that said in his book, The Next Million Years, and that’s quite a boast for the illuminati, he said himself that there has always existed a form of slavery, and we are simply creating a more sophisticated form of slavery, where the slave will never realize that he is actually a slave.
Jackie: The perfect slave believes he’s free.
Alan: That’s right. So they give you brass bands, and you wave flags and stuff, and you know, you get parades. And you’re allowed to buy your auto to get to work to pay for that clapboard house that you put up there and pay the taxes on it. So we’re just a more efficient form of slave, where we don’t really need to be guarded all the time. We even buy our own clothes out of what’s left over. And our work boots, you know. So, yeah, it is a more sophisticated form of slavery.
Jackie: And you have to have a license to do everything.
Alan: Well, everything is a privilege, you see, in a democracy.
Jackie: Well, and the definition of a license, their own definition, is, it gives you the right to do something that would otherwise be illegal.
Alan: Yeah, that’s why it’s a lie on your senses. It’s lie-sense.
Jackie: Lie-sense. Yeah. It’s a lie on your senses. Wow, yes.
Alan: Because, yeah, sure. That’s exactly what it is. You pay a fee, you pay money, then you can do it.
Jackie: So, it would be illegal to fish, see. I mean, basically that’s what they’re saying. You have to get a license to fish. And so they’re giving you permission with this license to do something that other, so, they just make every, they make living illegal.
Alan: Oh sure they do. In fact, it’s no different from the Soviet Union, where you cannot do something during the course of your day, if they want to they can get you because you’ll break one law or another just walking up the road, you know. And that’s what it’s come down to. Most of the laws are on the books in case they ever want to pull you in. Anybody, that is, in. That’s why they don’t take laws off the books. No, we’re living in a prison. It’s just that you don’t see the bars until you try to walk out of that prison without permission. Then people appear out of nowhere that you never saw before with strange badges in plainclothes and you find out, my God, there’s another world out there that I knew nothing about.
Jackie: That’s right. Goethe, was that, that there’s none more hopelessly enslaved then he who believes he’s free.
Alan: Yes. But sure, I mean, how can you be free, when you’re born as an asset, basically, to pay off a debt?
Jackie: And you have to get a certificate of your birth.
Alan: Even Thomas Jefferson, who was a member of the Illuminati, and this is the amazing thing. The Illuminati spoke openly, because they knew the public would take it one way, where they could take it themselves another way, the same statement. But he did say that a generation born into paying off a debt incurred by a previous generation, are therefore born into slavery. And he said that it’s possible, you know, in a different system, he said, for every generation to write off the debt of a previous generation. And he talked about that. So, they knew all this stuff. They knew it all, at that particular time. They were well aware of it all.
Jackie: And just because he said it, and he’s quoted it, people think that he said it as a warning.
Alan: They always give you a legal warning. And it’s like Benjamin Franklin, saying, what have we got? Well, a republic, if you can keep it. That’s the same tongue in cheek. It’s man speaks with a forked tongue, you know. He’s giving two different statements, depending on whose point of view you take it from, the Illuminati’s or the man in the street. In other words, Franklin knew darn well from the beginning that you’d never keep it. It wasn’t intended that you would keep it. Because you never really had it.
Jackie: Right, exactly. Thomas Jefferson made a statement about revolution, that something about every twenty years, that maybe there needs to be a revolution.
Alan: That’s to clear out the ones at the top, because they become lazy, corrupt, and they start immediately to try and get their offspring into the same positions. And Jefferson admitted that, that as soon as they had the older guys beginning to retire from government, they were already getting their offspring in. Benjamin Franklin tried to get his son, his son was called Temple, by the way. He tried to get him into a government position, but he was unsuccessful. Other members did get their offspring into position. So you end up with these hereditary oligarchies, basically. And it’s no different today. I mean, you get Bush #1, Bush 2, Bush 3, you know, it goes on and on and on. And they’re all intermarried, so it doesn’t matter what name they use. If you go back in their histories, you’ll find they’re all cousins. So, yeah, you’re voting in an oligarchy.
Jackie: Well, yes. Just a reminder, that evidently Bush and Kerry were third cousins.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Both members of Skull and Bones.
Alan: And the royalty of Europe.
Jackie: And the royalty of Europe, yes.
Alan: And that was published by Burke’s Peerage, which is the Queen’s official genealogist. So, it’s true. These guys are all related to royalty and I really don’t understand why people keep falling for it and voting for people who promise them things, but never, never live up to it.
Jackie: Well, basically it comes down to this, it doesn’t matter who you vote for today. I mean, it never did anyway, because they always gave us our choices to let us think we had a choice. And I found that out fairly early on. But today, with the way they can skew the votes, it doesn’t matter who you vote for. Even if there was somebody decent running, whoever they want in office is going to get in office. Period.
Alan: It’s arranged before the fact, you know, for the public.
Jackie: Well, yeah. I mean, Bush didn’t win the first one. He didn’t win the second one. Not that I would want Gore. I mean, that’s not the point. But evidently they felt that GW would be able to suck in more people, and I think they were right. I can’t tell you how many people that I’ve heard make statements such as, thank God we have a Christian, a president who’s a Christian. And many, many people really believe it, that God told him to go to war to Iraq.
Alan: Yes. Well, I have no time for people who follow, anyway. In fact, that’s one of the Illuminati’s most powerful assets, is the fact that people are so willing to be organized into camps to follow, and all you have to do is put your guy in at the top of the camp. So, rather than persuade a few million people, you’ve got one guy in charge of them all, and he does all the talking, you know. That’s the secret about creating groups. And you’ve always got followers, which are easy to take over, by putting in your own man. That’s what they’ve done for thousand of years. The same nonsense, you know. So, it’s the 87% of the population, who are followers, and unfortunately, they’re always with us, as followers. And that’s the way it is. They’ve done studies on this at universities for the last hundred years. And they find it consistent that 87% of the public in any country don’t care who’s in charge, as long as they can carry on with their lifestyle as it is at the moment.
Jackie: Well, then, as their lifestyle continues to change, they still want their lifestyle as it is. No matter how terrible it’s become.
Alan: They adapt so quickly, and that’s why they used the term that man was made out of malleable clay, as early as Egypt. Made on the potter’s wheel. And, of course, that was copied into the Old Testament. What they meant by that was, man was the most adaptable creature on the planet. He adapts so quickly to every circumstance that’s thrust upon him. And as Zbigniew Brzezinski said, when he was asked what he thought of the ordinary people, wouldn’t they rebel if the US ever, you know, clamped down and took their rights away, Brzezinski said, he said, what do I think of the people? He said, well, put it this way, you can beat them, you can starve them to death, and do they rebel? He says, no, they just turn round and eat their dead. So that’s what we’re dealing with here. These people understand the human nature. They know that people will put up with tremendous hardships, horrible hardships, before they’ll do anything about it. And often, when they do something about it, their backs are against the wall, they’re unorganized, and it’s too late for them. And they know this too. That’s why they give us false leaders to follow, on every side of every thing. So, they understand this, perfectly well.
Jackie: Yes, they do. We’re out of our hour. And I thank you very much for being with us here tonight, Alan.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Yes. And ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be back with you, tomorrow night. I still don’t have my printer working, and there are, there are a few things that I have been wanting to share with you, but I can’t get them printed out. And Alan is very gracious, always, to come on with us, and add so much. Well, just basically without, I don’t know what I’d be doing right now, Alan. Thanks a lot. Alright, folks. We’ll see you tomorrow night.
Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is Alan Watt standing in for Jackie’s who’s suffering from some battle fatigue right now and I hope to take you through an hour of various types of information.
Today is the 2nd of August, 2005 and as most of you probably know by now, I live up here in Canada, further north from Toronto, and our temperatures hit 110 degrees today and it stayed in the 90s right until about 8:00 p.m. While this was happening of course they were spraying the skies with their beautiful new trails, which they’ve been laying for some years now and perhaps those who watch more consistently will notice the different types which they’ve been creating in the last year or so, which are different from the first chemtrails that we used to see.
They’re becoming rather artistic with it and today along with all the usual little fluff balls with the curly tails they’re creating, there was actually a three-legged swastika, like a nebula and of course the three-legged swastika is the symbol for the Isle of Man, where a lot of the wealthy rich of Britain do their banking, so I thought that was quite a coincidence to watch this being made above your head.
Another thing too that people are noticing – people who wear glasses or sunglasses are having to clean them much more often than they used to because of an oily film keeps developing on the glass, and this is from the polymer, which gives you that hazy look in the sky when they’re spraying, it’s from the polymer coming down to ground level. They’re really laying it on now with advanced science and as we’re all well aware, there’s no one in the regular media going to go anywhere near this subject. They won’t touch it with a barge poll, so they’ve all got their standing orders they’re out the door and probably so is there pension too if anyone tries to inform the media.
The media being what it is, mind you, hand-picked in the first place, individually it’s no hard job to get them to comply because they’re a bunch of prostitutes as far as I’m concerned. They’ve been selling the people down the river for many, many years and they’re all for of course this whole New World Order, and amongst the journalistic class you’ll find they believe themselves they’re part of the elite because they are really the fourth estate. They’re an essential part of government and always have been and they give the public the view they’re supposed to believe in on all topics.
They give us our diversions – our topics of conversation. They dish it out to us everyday, right down to trivialities which don’t affect anybody, but they will not touch any of the main subjects like the Bilderberger meetings or the main CFR meetings, which is coupled with the Royal Institute of International Affairs which was set up back in the late 1800’s in Britain to bring in a world government based on the English style of democracy which is under royalty. We must never forget that, that the top of Britain, being a model for the world for this particular system, you still have the monarchy and the aristocracy and all of the relatives of the monarchy basically – we called it “the establishment” in Britain. They run the show and they tell Parliament what to do and any politician who’s really clawing to get up there – and that’s basically a criterion to be a politician, you want to climb up there, they do what they’re told by the establishment and put the bills through that they’re told to put through.
Really, we live in a world which is almost like the movie the “MATRIX,” where although the Matrix took place in a sort of Internet system – an Internet reality, this is the reality here. We’re living through it and we can’t unplug our heads from the actual Internet once we feel tired. We’ve got to play this game everyday and those who are aware of what’s been going on and following what’s going on, I’m sure everyone’s feeling a form of fatigue simply by understanding the horror show which we’re living in today. Those who have done the research themselves and the studying, I’m sure, can’t help but come to that conclusion that we are living in a nightmare because those behind all of this wrote about their whole plan centuries ago. In the 18th century and into the 19th century there’s quite a few of the mouthpieces that put out books detailing the agenda and even time tables.
Lenin talked about it coming in at the end of the millennium and into the new, that’s when the big changes would take place in the West, and he said that in about 1915. This is an old, old time we’re living through.
Charles Galton Darwin who spoke on behalf of the elite in his book “The Next Million Years” talked about the necessity in a post-industrial Western society of depopulating all of the ‘useless eaters,’ you might say, to borrow a phrase from Bertrand Russell. They believed that everyone exists for their economic system. That’s what our function is and of course today we are living not only in a post-industrial era – the industries have been moved off to China, we’re post-technological as well and even all the computer industries basically are farmed out to the Far East as well.
We really only have one function left and apart from consuming all the goods that are brought in from the Far East, we are supposed to be the world’s policemen and force the rest of the world—the Muslim countries—into the same system that we live under.
We are economic units in a very sophisticated system, which did not evolve by itself. It was planned this way. Every part was planned in minute detail.
The public’s response to every part of the plan has been worked out like a battle plan in advance and psychologists and sociologists helped put all this together to give us our news and how we should cope with our news and what we should think about our news; it’s all done for us. Whereas we ourselves have to sit back and be downloaded and then just parrot what we’re told. That’s how simple this Skinnerian system really is.
It’s not difficult when you realize that thousands of think tanks are employed full-time to plan your thoughts for the future and what you’re going to experience in the future and in fact down to how you’ll react to those experiences in the future, so we are in the Matrix as I say and we can’t get unplugged so easily.
One of the problems we have at the moment of course is the barrage of even shortwave news, which goes on incessantly about the minute details and you get a blow by blow account of what they are doing to us – the big THEY, you see, and what countries are doing the saber rattling towards America such as China and so on. That’s all nonsense because the boys who own the West also own lock, stock and barrel China and no one in China acts on his own.
They take orders from the same elite, the global elite who set them up in business and financed them; apart from us of course, because we did finance the moving of industry under the GATT Treaty, we paid for factories to move from Canada, the States and Europe to China and we paid for the transportation of all tooling and machinery. We also signed treaties that we would pay all losses that those firms would incur during the first five years of operation.
Canada gave them two or three Can Do nuclear reactors and they gave them the reactors. At the time John Chrétien was the prime minister and he came back from China with his big jumbo jet full of businessmen, not ordinary businessmen obviously but corporate leaders, which the taxpayers funded once again. He said, oh, we’ll have jobs, jobs, jobs; but what he didn’t say was the jobs are all in China. He said, we’ve got a good deal with selling these nuclear reactors to China; and they mentioned the figures in the billions but then about four months later in the Toronto Sun, half way through the paper in between sports and sex and everything else, there was one paragraph that said, “an update on the Can Do Reactors to China,” and that was China would not have to begin payment back to Canada for 25 years; and if they still felt they couldn’t make the payments, it would be postponed for another 25 years.
Now Canada doesn’t have billions to throw around and what they didn’t say was Mr. Chrétien borrowed from the World Bank the money to loan to China. The taxpayers of Canada were the guarantors for that loan, so we pay off the whole loan and that’s how these scams all work you see.
They don’t even bother as the Communists supposedly did, they didn’t even bother to steal your money quietly; they had to lie about it too, and of course we have great liars in the West as politicians. No matter how much respect they’ve been trying to gain for themselves through propaganda and the media building them up to be a holier than thou and astute upright men.
It’s amazing how our forefathers understood that politicians were basically liars. That’s what they do. They’re very good liars and many of them are lawyers as well and I’m sure it’s no coincidence that LIAR and LAWYER sound very much alike you know. These guys have sold us all out for their own personal ends and gain and they also get superior medical treatment.
I think it was four or five years ago – maybe six years ago an odd thing happened in the Western countries where the politicians murmured about a deal being made that they and their relatives would be TREATED FOR LIFE at very top military establishments. That was another perk that got added to it all and of course I wondered why in this great democracy, where we’re all supposedly treated equally, that the general population has to wait in sort of factory queues to get in to see a doctor; because that’s what we have in Canada basically. You might have to schedule an appointment two months in advance and by that time you’re either dead or cured, one of the two.
We live in a fantasy land where our thoughts are dished out to us by experts. Our topics of conversation are doled out to us and they understand human nature. They’ve always understood human nature.
MAN HAS BEEN THE MOST PERFECTLY STUDIED CREATURE ON THIS PLANET and the creatures who do the studying of course have been here for thousands of years too; and since knowledge is power, knowledge is never lost. It’s put into places called ARCHIVES.
For the public you get public libraries and of course that’s all AUTHORIZED public libraries. Every book in there is authorized for your consumption, but YOU WILL NEVER SEE or get access to the REAL ARCHIVES where the REAL INFORMATION is kept.
When I was at school in Scotland, I can remember getting this vague history of Scotland and how it tried to stop the Normans from coming in and it was successful to a great extent, except the nobles began to intermarry with them and they took over the lordships through marriage. Scotland fought the Romans before that – could not defeat.
The Normans couldn’t come in either with an army because they were being defeated as well, so they simply used money, bribery and inter-marriage to take over Scotland. However, trying to get the history of Scotland from our schools was a difficult task. What I found out later was that since Scotland was a colony of England then technically they didn’t want any bad news being given to the Scots, like what happened in Scotland in the 1800’s when they cleared the highlands in the 1700’s and 1800’s. They put off millions of people into rickety old boats to go to the new world or Australia or wherever they were sending them and they were being forced off at the point of the gun. Many of the boats sank just off the coast and the relatives on the shoreline could watch their relatives dying and drowning.
ALL OF HISTORY WAS WIPED OUT OF THE HISTORY BOOKS BY A DECREE FROM LONDON so that the Scots would never be upset about London and the way its run its country. This is the type of whitewashing we’ve had throughout history and it goes along with the plans and the format set out by John Dewey, who said himself that all conflicts, past conflicts between nations, when it comes to the defeated nations, they would basically be wiped off the records so no one will know.
However, I was very lucky in that I had an adult reference library and reference books went back to 1500’s and they had documentation from even the newspapers in the 1600’s and 1700’s, and so I found out I was being taught nothing but lies in school as far as history went. There I am, at night, going to the libraries and studying up on what really happened and what really happened was a horror show.
People visit Scotland today and they look around the highlands and see it’s so beautiful, this empty barren countryside and hills and mountains and so on, and what they fail to realize is if the highlanders hadn’t been kicked off their land, it wouldn’t be so bare and barren as it is today. That was the technique used by London, which really was an ancient Middle Eastern technique that had been used in ages past, where they in the times of Nero and Caesar and so on they moved people around the world at will. Anyone who caused them trouble they simply moved them off their land and put them into another country. That was standard operating procedure and this was going on right up to the present time.
We find the U.S. went into Somalia. The next thing we know, there are documentaries on the CBC television in Canada and they’re showing you these high rises built to house the Somalians who left Somalia and the Canadian government (our taxpayers) flew them all in and supported them. This idea of kicking people off their land is not new.
In present day Iraq, the U.S. is still attacking various towns. They have a rotation schedule where they go in and bomb it and strafe it and cause terror, and a lot of people are moving away. That’s the point of it all. They want them to move.
When we look at this technique of getting people to move who are obstinate and no one likes leaving the country they’ve been born into, we have to look at the U.N. agenda. Anyone – everyone can move from the rural areas in every country and move into these habitat areas as they call them – human habitat areas.
These artificial compounds you might call them too, where you see in their own website – I haven’t checked it but I’ve had good documentation sent to me on the subject, and THEY SAID THERE’LL BE NO PRIVATE PROPERTY.
There will be NO OWNERSHIP OF VEHICLES either, automobiles. Public transportation only and of course your life from BIRTH TO DEATH will be watched and observed and regulated by EXPERTS, you see, NGO experts, and they have experts for everything and that goes right back to the format of Bertrand Russell.
Lord Bertrand Russell who experimented with school children back in the early 1900’s long before Skinner and he brought in the FREE LOVE thing too. That was another mandate which they knew they’d have to use. Bertrand Russell pushed this FREE LOVE AND NO MARRIAGE, just go from one partner to the next, and he was encouraging the children in these special controlled schools that he’d set up to do this very thing. Then they studied the psychological effects on the children who went through all of this and they followed their lives right through their entire lives.
They tried to implement the same program in the 1920’s, “the roaring 20’s,” by making booze cans naughty but nice, you see. Taboo but nice. The very thing that teenagers flock to. THEY brought in the mini skirt at that time.
THEY brought in booze and sex, just do it, and these sort of dance songs to go with it; but because of all the pregnancies that occurred from it, they had to start building like crazy Boy’s Towns and Girl’s Towns all over the place to accommodate the offspring. They didn’t have all the abortion clinics to take care of the fallout you see. They didn’t have the medical facilities to take care of all the venereal disease, which also skyrocketed in the 1920’s, and so they went back to their desks again and drew up the plans and then THEY worked hard to get the PILL.
That was a prime priority and they thought well better than just booze we’ll bring out drugs – hallucinogenic drugs like LSD, which if you just speak LSD, you’ve got LUCID, and lucid is clear and is ANOTHER NAME FOR LUCIFER, which is just a little joke that they throw in there; but they brought out the drugs in the ‘60’s with the rock and roll.
They called it a revolution in music, a revolution in sex and they had the abortion clinics ready, the private ones that you could pay for, and they also had the street medical facilities where you could walk in and get shots for any venereal disease that you might have picked up.
These guys don’t give up. They never alter their agenda, by the way. They simply take it back to the drawing board and try to iron out any problems that they have. When we realize how old this agenda is and that it happened long before–it was on the go long before you were born, long before FDR. You go back into the days of Sumer. The RABBIS themselves talk about THE AGENDA beginning around 4,500 BC.
AN AGENDA WHICH WAS TO TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE PLANET UNDER ONE GOVERNMENT, ONE RULE WITH AN ELITE TO RULE IT and every facet of humanity to be run by experts. They don’t like this untidy method of people being individualistic and deciding what they want to work at or what they want to do for themselves and going off and maybe building a place here or there. It’s just too untidy for them you see.
We’re dealing with CONTROL FREAKS and these control freaks just don’t let up. They can’t let up. That’s their nature. They want it to be under their control and they’ll decide where you live, how we live and what we say and everything else and what we do. This again was all experimented with within the Soviet Union where they did have school-to-work.
You were tested at the age of five and six for any special qualities or any areas of study and then they said okay you’re going to be an engineer and you’re going to be a laborer and you’re going to be a plumber, and you were only taught what you had to be taught to make you a plumber or an engineer. You didn’t get any extra curriculum or any extra history or geography or science. It was irrelevant to the controllers.
All you had to know was how to do your job when you left school and that is the same idea that’s coming here. It’s too untidy you see to have people being taught all these different things and then deciding what they want to do. Why not save the bucks, train them in one area only and you have a dumb stupid population who don’t know very much except how to fix taps, perhaps, or make a technical drawing on something. That society is a very easily managed society because they’re kept in ignorance of all the other generalities and studies.
Therefore, from a controlled pre-point of view that would be perfection you see and we know where it’s going from there. We know that Arthur Koestler or “Kaus-ler” depending on how you pronounce it, which is K-O-E-S-T-L-E-R, he worked for Stalin as an officer and he helped starve the people in the Ukraine. He talks about it in a book which he wrote called, “The Ghost in the Machine,” and “The Ghost in the Machine” by the way is the illusive part that psychiatrists that can’t pin down. It’s you. It’s the essence which is you. The real you.
It’s illusive to these characters and so Arthur Koestler came from his communist country as a communist officer and he went over and taught in universities in the United States in New York. He was attached to the United Nations and he worked in think tanks – global think tanks where different groups of scientists had their specialty all working from their own area of expertise on the same subject. The subject was: how do we remove that part of the brain in individuals that gives them their personal identity? It lets them know that you are you, distinct from other people. His expertise was in the psychological approach coupled with drugs and he also worked with surgeons who were doing various kinds of lobotomies and so on, when they were pretending that was a cure for depression.
They had lots of people to experiment on and many people came back to the U.S. from abroad in the military in World War II and they were having pre-frontal lobotomies – actual post-orbital. It’s behind the eye and this was supposed to be a treatment for the battle fatigue and the shock they’d gone through. Meanwhile of course they all got studied for the rest of their lives to see how it affected their personality. Koestler had all this information and he was trying to find new ways for the near future in how to do the same thing.
HOW DO WE DESTROY THAT PART OF THE PERSON THAT MAKES THEM AN INDIVIDUAL? because individuals you see are very problematic. They take whims and fancies. They go through fads. They’re just not controllable you see. People who are sovereign individuals want to do their own thing and the elite just can’t have that. It’s just too messy and too untidy for their system.
Koestler worked with other surgeons, with chemists and so on, and they found ways that they could target a specific area of the brain and knock it out, basically. You might call it a chemical castration of the brain. They didn’t want to destroy your higher abilities of mathematics and passing on information and so on. What they wanted to do was to stop the individual analyzing abilities on particular topics. In other words, you could repeat stuff but you couldn’t think of it yourself.
Now the break’s coming up, so I’ll be back shortly in just about three minutes and I’ll see you on the other side.
My name is Alan Watt and I have three books for sale. I go through a lot of the history of the last few thousand years in this agenda. I go through freemasonry and I don’t begin with the usual nonsense that it all started with the guilds – the tradesmen guilds in the Middle Ages. No, that was only a small part of it. It’s been here for thousands of years and secret societies are well documented in Ancient Rome. If you want one or all the books,
You can contact me if you have something to talk about; I don’t like “preachers” because I don’t need to be “saved.” I always say that Jesus saves but I’m not sure what bank he uses; and since people today have no idea what it really means, although they’ve been told by the World Council of Churches that they think they know what it means, they’re just whistling in the dark and so are most of their followers.
Religion is one of the prime means of mind control. Yes, it gives comfort because it designed it to do so, but it doesn’t give you answers to anything and it also tells you to obey government. That obviously was tacked in there by the priests who took over in Rome.
It’s so odd that they’re following a man who was killed for his viewpoints and for speaking out freely against the corruption of his age and spoke out against the priesthoods who ran the religion – he spoke out against the bankers who were in cahoots with the priests, as they always are, and they killed him for it, you see. In the New Testament somewhere in Paul somebody added, “obey government because it’s put there by God.”
Well, if you believe that, then don’t decry Adolf Hitler because he was elected into government. Don’t decry Bonaparte Napoleon when he took over. Don’t decry Lenin. In other words, every tyrant that was put in under your own philosophy was put there by God, so that’s your problem and you’ll have to deal with that yourselves, especially when you’re following someone who definitely spoke out against it. That’s your doublethink of today.
Now getting back to Arthur Koestler working the think tanks for the United Nations, he did say that they were successful by different means, by chemicals and I’ve no doubt they used sodium fluoride, which is in the tap water in the cities. It’s in the toothpaste. It was used in the Soviet Union and it was also used by Natzi Germany because they knew the affects of it. It slowed down the brain. It slowed your intellect, but Koestler also talked about more efficient biochemical means where they could actually attach organisms if they want to, like viruses or bacterium, to specific hormones which go straight to your brain and attack that vital area.
Once again, this part of the brain they want to knock out is you. It’s who you are. It’s what gives your ability to perceive yourself as a distinct independent individual, distinct from others, but that’s a nuisance you see to the controlling elite. They have to use massive media and propaganda to keep each individual happy today.
They’ve got all these services out there and they put sports on for people to keep them occupied or movies with sex or violence and all this kind of stuff, but the fact is: if they could possibly destroy that part of the brain, they wouldn’t need all of this anymore. Maybe that’s the right way to go because we wouldn’t need the media anymore either.
I wonder if they’ve thought of that, what happens to them when they’re no longer required? What happens to all the sports commentators too, and all the networks when they’re no longer required? Because under that last meeting that was held – World Meeting of Scientists, sponsored and paid for by the U.S. Department of Commerce and headed off or kicked off by Newt Gingrich, which didn’t appear in the newspapers, these characters, these scientists have a chip ready to implant in the brain. Lo and behold, the main scientist from Japan said, IT WILL BE THE END OF INDIVIDUALITY AS WE KNOW IT.
It will be more like the beehive in fact he said because everyone will be interlinked with a regional computer, which will direct them as one would direct a robot. They won’t need media to keep people happy because people will be quite dumb and happy as their program tells them to be. They won’t need the sports. They won’t even need politicians eventually. I wonder if they’ve thought what they’re going to do or what their function would be in such a future, because POLITICIANS OUTSIDE OF THEIR JOB ARE THE MOST USELESS CREATURES YOU’LL EVER MEET.
The men don’t know anything about fixing anything or how anything works. All they do is sit and scheme and their job is to get other people to work for them. That’s what politicians do. THEY’RE PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITIES. They have no function in any other system than this one.
As I say, Arthur Koestler wrote about it in “The Ghost in the Machine“ and that book is definitely, definitely worth a read and in the last chapter he goes through the whole agenda and he thinks it’s just wonderful that they’ll have peace on the planet.
There’ll be this strange utopia for THE ELITE, WHO WILL NOT by the way TAKE A CHIP or HAVE THEIR MIND ALTERED IN ANY WAY because they have to GUIDE THE PLANET. As he said, and as Charles Galton Darwin said, and as a scientist at the Loyola University meeting said, he said that only the elite will need their faculties because they will be guiding the ship. In other words, their ability for self-survival, self-preservation will be functioning; whereas the masses will not because the masses will have all their problems taken care of for them by the state.
This Borg mentality that they showed us in the Star Trek movies, the original “Bee,” that’s what Borg stands for, by the way, we’re the ‘worker bee,’ and they lived in square space ships because they were the ashlar – the Masonic ashlar, they were squared. They were not natural. They were part cyborg and everyone was connected to a central computer, just like they talked about at the meeting at Loyola University and they have the technology to do this.
At that meeting they said the only problem they have at the moment is convincing the public to accept it. That’s the only problem. They have everything ready to go. It’s been tried and tested over many years on unsuspecting people and they want to go ahead with the beginning in 2009 and hopefully they said they’d have it completed by 2018 or 2019. Politics, by the way, wasn’t mentioned once at this meeting – this meeting which churned out 600 pages of their agenda and was totally ignored by the media, although many of the media guys were present.
They said that they will promote this from kindergarten. They’ll promote it as a positive thing in school. They’ll promote it through all novels, all magazines, all fiction writings and the movies.
Now these guys didn’t say we would like it to be promoted. No, they said it’s going to be promoted and that’s how things really work you see in this matrix that we live in.
They didn’t mention politics because they’re well aware that politics is a sideshow for the public. Many years ago they found out that the PUBLIC WOULD REBEL and OVERTHROW TOTAL CORRUPTION so they came up with this thing called DEMOCRACY, where if you think you can change the system every four years, you go ahead and vote. Then after the next four years, well, we’ll vote for someone else. That stops them from having all these problems, as they fill their pockets with our money at the top and as they make us work for less money or devalue the money or rob us from our taxes et cetera and hand it out to their corporate buddies and foreign shores.
If you wonder why Africa is poor, read the agendas. Read the great economist John Stewart Mill who wrote about it in the 1800’s that the BLACK MAN was to be basically ERADICATED because he would not fit in to the Western economic system. He said some will survive and his own words were because they can mimic the white man, but those who couldn’t mimic the white man were to be eradicated. We see AIDS decimating Africa, absolutely, and we know too it was definitely small pox – the free small pox shots the UN went around and gave them all and tried to blame on the failure to change needles from one person to the next, which was a nice cover story because the AIDS virus is well documented, including the funding to create this thing which could destroy a person’s auto-immune system, and so a common cold would turn into chronic bronchitis or pneumonia and kill you. That’s how it works.
THIS IS A HORROR SHOW WE DO LIVE IN and those people who are on the air and who are genuine (and not all of them are), understand this and have to live with this knowledge everyday. They’re not off chasing UFO’s like Art Bell or worried if NASA can make it with the next space drama, as a tile comes off and all this nonsense. No, this is to suck you in and support NASA, which does nothing really except put up satellites up there which work in conjunction with HAARP and to spy on you. That’s NASA’s main job. That’s what it does you know.
Those on the shortwave who know what’s happening have to live with the knowledge everyday. They have to cope with the reality and the bleakness because we’re going through a bleak period right now. Everyone who’s aware is sensing something coming quickly – “something wicked this way comes,” as they used to say. We know there is more and more restrictions especially in rural areas with what you can and cannot do and they’re passing laws all the time.
We know that gasoline’s been pushed up and Mr. Rumsfeld at least on the media up in Canada announced that gasoline might double. He said it’s going from $70 a barrel to $140 a barrel and that was a trial balloon. They do this once in a while to test out the public reaction as they do their quiet polls all over the place. As long as the media doesn’t follow it up – and they don’t, and the public is trained only to think about what the media tells them to think about, so if the media seems concerned about something, then so are the public.
Zbigniew Brzezinski documented all of this in “Between Two Ages,“ one of his books, in the Technetronic Era. The Technetronic Era is the era we live in and it’s an era where they used advanced secret technology. Advanced secret from the public, but really old technology, such as the HAARP program coupled with satellites and so on, to once again do their favorite little act, which is to try and control the minds of the public.
HAARP is beaming out now 24 hours of every single day. They step up the power when they really go to town and spray the skies non-stop and this has a tremendous effect on our weather. They can either cause thunderstorms or they can spray over thunderstorms and dissipate them. That’s why there’s a drought in many areas, so they can do both.
This is OLD TECHNOLOGY going back to TESLA, at least Tesla, although I doubt it, to be honest with you, because if you read about the ETRUSCANS who were the ones WHO BUILT ALL OF THE SUBTERRANEAN TUNNELS UNDER ROME PRIOR TO ROME and the Etruscans were also the people who had tremendous engineering.
They taught the Romans how to build. That’s where they got all their ideas and engineering skills for the aqueducts everywhere they went, because wherever you go the first thing you must do is steal the water you see and that’s what the Romans did.
The Etruscans used to be called in to Rome on high, high festival days, which were just like today. They’re all linked to sunrise, sunset or stars appearing – certain stars or the moon and which are still used in all high occult masonry today; and the Etruscans FAVORITE TRICK was to CALL DOWN FIRE FROM HEAVEN.
Those of you who think that something new was put into Revelations, where the great beast would call down fire from heaven, should think again because the Etruscans were doing this 2,000 BC right up into the time of Jesus, so it’s not a new trick. It was never explained how they did it, but they certainly could do it.
They could literally conjure up fire and bring it down from heaven to earth on demand, and I would call that a definitely advanced science.
Science is the most secretive thing because it gives you power – it gives the holder power and you never share knowledge, which is power. It’s no surprise to me that many technologies are being used today which are completely unknown of by the public who read the Popular Mechanics or Popular Science and they tell you, oh, we’re just working on this and one day we hope to be able to do, yadda-yadda-ya, when in reality that’s all part of the matrix. Whatever they tell you they’re working on, the higher level of science and there’s THREE LEVELS OF SCIENCE you see.
There’s THREE LEVELS OF MEDICINE too, from professorship down is the lowest level. That’s the whole matrix, the low level you see from professorship down. Whatever they give you as being the latest is really antique and what they really have is so far advanced that it’s beyond what we’re even given as science fiction.
The CIA had little hand-held gadgets back in the 1950’s which were like mini-HAARP’s and they could literally pulse into your brain voices, commands, and so on, and it worked–these little machines worked on line of sight. Dr. Nick Begich displayed a whole bunch of these antique little mind control gizmos from the CIA on Wendy Mesley show here in Canada about four years ago. He had about three benches full of them and this technology of course could also be – and here’s the kicker, just like the Star Trek stun gun or the phaser gun – you could also set it to match the automatic beat of the heart. In other words, you could stop the heart if you wanted to; and we wondered why people had sudden fatal heart attacks years ago and just odd coincidences, and of course we could never have done that because we didn’t have the technology, did we? That’s why they get away with it. They never tell you what they’re really using at the time.
Now Nick Begich also took this stuff over the European Union Parliament because some of the members they were having these strange weird attacks just before they got up to speak in Parliament and he displayed it and demonstrated this stuff and he said there are people here who are using it on you. This is old technology–antique technology. Well, if it was a size or TV remote converter or a packet of cigarettes back in the 1950’s, you can imagine how small it is today. If you ever get strange thoughts or strange craziness or feel terribly nauseated and you happen to be speaking out about things, well maybe it’s not so paranoid after all to wonder if maybe someone’s targeting you because you certainly could be.
Now the whole problem comes back down to what do we do about all of this. There are no groups you can join. Groups are immediately infiltrated or else they’re set up in advance by the controllers and all you can get back to is number one. When you understand that you’re simply living in a long, long succession of this plan, you’re lifetime’s a little blip in one part of it, then you stop panicking.
Your government is NOT BEING TAKEN OVER as you live. It NEVER WAS your government in the first place. It wasn’t your father’s or your grandfather’s either. It was a system that was cleverly designed up long ago to give the impressions that people are really enemies and countries were really enemies and had us all fighting each other while the elite benefited from it.
IT KEPT THE POPULATION DOWN.
They made tremendous fortunes through war and they just happened to always own all the manufacturing processes, but that of course must be a coincidence too – so stop panicking. You’re not being taken over as you live. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS and you can take comfort in the fact too that there’s been a long, long lineage of people with the knowledge of what is happening, who don’t belong to this elite controlling group, who go on down through the ages with the knowledge and helping to pass it on to other people. That’s why we know so much today.
Just like you start off with an avalanche–an avalanche of course is this NEW UPCOMING WORLD ORDER OF TOTAL CONTROL, if they get their way—you also have had many small snowballs being rolled along the ground and getting larger and larger and larger as time goes on, as we go on through this tremendous journey here through time and space. You must always keep in mind that eventually a critical mass is met and the critical mass does not depend on vast armies of people. It depends on the right quality of people with the right self-knowledge of who they are in the great scheme of things and who are totally honest about themselves, which is always the beginning of enlightenment, and you also come in contact of others of your own kind.
The knowledge itself doesn’t stay with you. Each time you speak it, anywhere, they know themselves we basically broadcast–people actually broadcast you know when they have a eureka moment, something suddenly strikes them and you’ll find that people across the planet are being hit with the same thing at the same time. This is something which is at the moment outside of their control, but they do recognize it. They know about it.
Arnold Toynbee who was the Rhode Scholar and a globalist for the elite, he ran the scholarship programs I should say. Professor Arnold Toynbee made a speech about it and he said, “when a thought is put out there, it’s well understood that people pick it up all over the planet.” So when your heart is pure and your as pure as you can possibly be, you don’t want to stop things as they are and have some vague pretense past come back again, like “lets live in the Victorian Age” or something.
No, you’re honest about the whole system and you know the whole system is unnatural, then you can broadcast as I say, others pick it up and it’s like putting a series of batteries together. The voltage increases tremendously with each person who wakes up and starts to really come alive and think.
Well, that’s been a pretty brief hour and I’ve rambled on a bit here trying to get a lot in and nothing is prepared, but I hope for you it’s been of interest and I guess Jackie will be back tomorrow night to talk to you about other things. Thank you and good night.
Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday, and it is the 3rd of August, in the year 2005. And I am glad to be back with you this evening. And I want to thank Alan Watt for going it alone last night. And Alan is with us, this evening. I’ve got information that I’ve been wanting to share with you. Folks, I haven’t been able to. I have a new printer on the way. And so, perhaps next week we might give Alan a bit of a break, and I’ll be sharing with you some information I’ve kind of been storing up, and I haven’t been able to do it, because I haven’t been able to get it out of my printer. So, anyway, I got to thinking. It’s so easy to label my tapes today, because basically it says, Alan Watt. But the difficult thing to do is to put on that label a topic, because Alan and I have a tendency to let it flow, and let it go the way it goes.
“Fear of the will of God is one of the strangest beliefs the human mind has ever made.” I don’t know that any of us, we each have our own, if you would, limited concept of Creator. And it certainly, for me, it is a limited concept. But there is one thing that I am very clear, is that Creator, the energy, the force, that we are of, is benevolent, and I do know that. And to me, the most beautiful proof if you would, of that, is the law, the universal law, of for every action there is a reaction. What we sow we are allowed to reap. So there isn’t punishment being meted out by some gray-haired long-bearded guy sitting up on a cloud someplace pointing his finger and saying you ticked me off. But the fact that we are allowed to reap what we sow. To me that is a beautiful perfect justice. And my experience has been, when I’m able to let go, when I’m able to get out of my own way, and let it unfold without my feeling like I have to know the outcome, etc, etc. Those are to me, awesome, like miracles happen. And I see that as the love with which the universe or creation took place. Alan, thanks for being here tonight.
Alan Watt: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: I guess, you know, if people buy into the Old Testament Jehovah God, it would be very difficult not to have “fear of God”.
Alan: Well, that’s just it. Religion has always been used, orthodox religion has always been used to make the public obedient really to the system. And of course the system exhibited terror to the public, with public hangings and executions and in Britain of course, we had disembowelment and hanging, drawing, and quartering as they called it. And these were laid on to strike fear into the public to make them obey. And when they knew that the system was basically complete, all around them, the only thing they could turn to was spiritual comfort, and of course, that’s why the authorized churches have always been in cahoots with the ruling government. And that’s how it’s always operated. So one gave you the physical terror, and the threat of physical terror, while the other one told you how to escape basically in your mind by staying on your knees, you know. And that’s a form of control. Gorbachev in one of his books mentions the fact that he himself is an atheist, but he says, we are creating a religion based on earth worship for the people. Because religion has always been essential to governments. So these guys understand the function of religion. They understand, as well, I am sure, the techniques of creating religions, new ones, with their political purposes in mind. And I’m sure this knowledge must be really ancient, because they know exactly what format, what sequence to use, just like mathematics, and the public behave accordingly. So, yeah, that’s right from Gorbachev himself, and I think his book was called, Towards a New Civilization, so you can see it for yourself. So there’s an admitted atheist helping to create a religion for the public to follow. And this earth-based religion, of course, is hand in glove with the political agenda, where the public will have no rights on the earth’s surface. They’ll have to do what they’re told. They’ll be organized by officials in every capacity. And this is the new civilization that he’s referring to in his book. And so you can see why earth worship would be the ideal religion to push right now, for the type of society they envisage for the near future. And so, not only will we be breaking a taboo by ignoring the government decrees, you’d also be breaking the religious taboos. And you’ll find that the majority of the public will have no sympathy for the people who break that type of rule.
Jackie: Give me an example of what you’re saying here, breaking a taboo of the Earth worship.
Alan: Well, you can see it all around. The United Nations has no intention of allowing people for much longer to live on the land. They’ve done their best to put the farmers out, beginning in the 1940s. That’s when they started to hand out grants to farmers. That was the bait. Then the government had a foot in the door and a say in what happened on the farm. And it’s gone on since then. And farmers have been losing everything, as other countries are set up to do the farming for the whole world. In Marxism, which is only the left hand you might say of the capitalism, or the same bird, in the Communist ideology the state would be in control of all land and there would be no private property. Of course, in the Soviet System, the bureaucrats got the big dachas in the country, and they were flown in there to spend their holidays and so on in privacy with their servants. And Joe Blow was given a trip to the crowded Baltic holiday resorts for the people. This is the type of future they envisage for the people on planet earth, basically. Every area will have its function. China is the manufacturer. The CFR put out books in the 1930s that China would be the sole manufacturer for the world, which it’s become in the last ten, fifteen years. And so nothing happens by chance, nothing evolves by itself, everything is planned way ahead, like a business plan. In fact the whole world is nothing but one big business plan, and it’s run by think tanks.
Jackie: Yeah, and the governments are all corporations.
Alan: And, of course, Professor Carroll Quigley, who also was the historian for the CFR. I don’t think people realize that he was the official historian for a few years. He had access to the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the CFR’s records, and he gave a parallel view of history, the real force behind history, beginning around the time of the establishment of the British East India Company, and the United Kingdom as they called it, around the 1600s. And he said that this group has been behind everything that’s happened in the world. They’ve planned wars in advance to change civilization. He says war is created to change society. You can get more social change, meaning more governmental control in minute areas of life in five years of war than you can in fifty years of peace. And of course, we’ve noticed that after every war, your society has changed more and more, till more power is in government hands. And now we see the corporate merger, as Carroll Quigley said. He said, the future will be a society where the new feudal overlords will be corporate business leaders in conjunction with governments. So, he laid it all on the line. He gave the history of the wars, what was behind it, the forces that manipulated the wars to get us to where we are, to get people to give up their sovereignty. And he laid out the road map that he simply copied from the CFR’s records. And this is real. It’s all happening.
Jackie: And then he died, yes?
Alan: And then he died after disclosing some stuff on audio tapes to some of his students. He thought it was going to be kept private, but he let too much out of the bag, you know. The main plates were destroyed by MacMillan and Company, so that they couldn’t publish other books, but some people have managed to bypass that and copy those books. Tragedy and Hope is the book.
Jackie: Well, it’s twenty-five years the copyright runs out. So that would be when they would be able to do it. When was that book done? Do you recall?
Alan: I think it was in the 60s that he put that out, the late 60s, but MacMillan bought it over, as soon as the first publication came out, and then they destroyed the plates, because this stuff was not supposed to be allowed out to the public. Carroll Quigley believed in that system, that’s why he was one of their men, but he also thought that the public would accept the fact that the new way was a managed way, where there was no individual rights and freedoms.
Jackie: He had to have been a real drone, I mean, to have believed in it so intensely and fervently, that he believed that the general public would accept this and say, oh, this is wonderful. There had to be something wrong with the man. Are you there? Seems that we’ve lost Alan Watt, folks. Either that or he’s talking and I can’t here him. Probably, what I should do, if Nicholas happens to be, wait a minute, I might have some music. No, I can’t. There we go. Thank you, Nicholas. I’m going to go off the air, folks. Hello?
Caller: Yes, I’d like to ask Alan a question.
Jackie: Hold on, honey. We have to get him back on the line. I’m going to go off air for a minute.
Folks, we’re back on the air. And I want to thank Nicholas. Nicholas, thank you so much for being there and stepping in, and holding this place open while we got Alan back on the line. Alan, are you with me?
Alan: I think so.
Jackie: Oh, good. So, you, we just got disconnected, period.
Alan: I know, and every time I called, it kept saying all lines are busy, try again.
Jackie: All circuits are busy?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Well, then, I guess we must be on a topic that isn’t their favorite subject.
Alan: It’s very probably so, yeah. It spoils the illusion that the media keeps giving us. And we don’t talk about sports, you know.
Jackie: No, we don’t talk about sports, do we? So, I’d like, I don’t remember exactly. We were talking about Carroll Quigley and that, oh, you had said that you know, after he had evidently done a speech leaked to some of his students, and it was on a….
Alan: It was a private talk in a restaurant. And one of his students recorded him, you know. And in it, he actually cautioned them. He talked about Freemasonry. And he talked about the dollar bill, the pyramid and so on. He says, this is very old, he says, 6,000 years old, this symbol. And then he said, but don’t talk to anybody about this, it will spoil, it will cut short your career. That’s what he told them on the tape. And I have the tape.
Jackie: Alan, is there a way that you could get a copy made of that tape so we could play it for our listeners?
Alan: Sure, yeah.
Jackie: Oh, my Gosh, that would be wonderful. Alright.
Alan: And he was the official historian and he really spilled the beans by using their records. He had the records there at Pratt House, I think they call it in New York. And that’s where the records were kept. And interestingly enough, the man who introduced him to the record-keeping department for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the CFR, now this is the same organization, was a guy called Zimmerman. And Zimmerman was the guy who belonged to the British Communist Party, who was Winston Churchill’s main advisor during World War II. It’s the weirdest setup, and of course, most books will tell you that Winston Churchill hated Communism with a passion. And yet, someone told him to take Zimmerman on as his main advisor. So, Zimmerman was in the record-keeping department for the Royal Institute and CFR, and he gave the job over eventually to Carroll Quigley. So, it’s from the horse’s mouth.
Jackie: Carroll Quigley was from England?
Alan: Oh, no. He was American. And he taught at Georgetown University. He was the guy who put Bill Clinton’s name forward for the Rhodes Scholarship. Of course, the Rhodes Foundation is to create international leaders from all countries to go back home and push the same agenda for world government. That’s why it was set up by Rhodes and Rothschild. That’s all documented stuff. In fact, even Quigley goes into that in some detail.
Jackie: In his book or on his tape?
Alan: In the book. Because Cecil Rhodes, he was basically taught in Oxford University. And he had a mentor as well at the University who was pushing for World Government. And then, of course, he and Rothschild and a few other ones got together with that other big diamond company, De Beers, part of the Boer family, B-O-E-R, also were members of that round table they set up. And their goal was to take over the wealth and the riches of the world. That was their strategy, and Cecil was sent off to South Africa where he fomented wars, supposedly by attacking South Africa, having South Africa retaliate. And then Cecil says, well, British subjects are being attacked outside of South Africa. And then Britain sent in the troops. So that started the Boer War. That was all planned way in advance. And they’ve done this all over the planet.
Jackie: Alan, we have a caller on the line, and if we can go back to this, the Boer War. Let’s see what his question is. Go ahead, caller.
Caller: Yes, last night I was listening to Alan, and he was talking about the Etruscans and their ability to call down fire upon their enemies. And I would like to know, how in the world did an advanced civilization like that ever become defeated by the Romans if they had such an ability to do such a thing?
Jackie: Alan, Alan Watt, did you hear that question?
Alan: How were they conquered by the Romans?
Jackie: He said, yeah, if they had the ability to call down fire on their enemies, how could they have been conquered by the Romans.
Alan: Because the ones who had the knowledge…
Jackie: Whoa, wait, whoa. He’s going to get off the line so he can hear.
Caller: I want to hear the answer, but I have to get off the phone, okay?
Jackie: Right. Bye, Alan. Bye. Our caller’s name is Alan. He wanted to get off the line so he could hear your answer.
Alan: Well, it’s no different from today. A small elite keep the power and the knowledge and they can call themselves anything, depending on which country they live in. And when they move out of that country, and perhaps become part of the Roman nobility, they don’t care what happens to the rest of the ordinary Etruscans, if you understand what I’m saying.
Jackie: In other words, the leaders of the Etruscans were the same leaders of the Romans.
Alan: That’s correct. In fact, the Etruscans gave their name to the present day area of Tuscany, and many of their tombs have been unearthed, and these are amazing tombs, similar to the Egyptian style in many ways. And they had vast amounts of wealth. These were the elite families, not the ordinary Etruscans. And really, Rome itself, we know that the elite that ran the Grecian lands moved into Rome, and they became the Roman nobility. And right towards the end of Rome, the nobility, the higher nobility of Rome still spoke Greek amongst themselves. So, you get confused with nationalities, and this is the con game that’s played on all of us. These people who understand tribal psychology use it all the time. That’s why they give us tribal emblems and we react automatically when the flags go up and the trumpets sound the right tunes and so on. So, but you must remember that the elite in all ages have been internationalists, and wherever they happen to live at that period of time.
Jackie: Well, guess what. It sounds to me like Alan and I have just been disconnected again, folks. And I guess we’re going to try it again. Nicholas, if you would play some music, I’ll disconnect and see if Alan can get back with us. Don’t know what’s going on. We’ll be back folks. Thanks, Nicholas.
Have I got you Alan?
Alan: I think so.
Jackie: Okay, folks. Nicholas, thank you again. This is crazy. Alan did get back with me, and then I tried to dial into the station and I got a circuit busy message. But then, when I tried again we were able to get back with you. This, I don’t know what’s so special about tonight, Alan.
Alan: Well, I think we’re just getting the heat turned up, that’s all.
Jackie: Getting the heat turned up because we’ve covered some very sensitive topics on this broadcast. Okay, well, you were, okay, what I was hearing you say, and I was thinking about this and putting it into my memory banks for future, is that all down through the ages, the leaders of nations have been the elite, and they are never of the bloodline of the people of the countries that they’re ruling.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Or tribes or whatever, even before countries were countries.
Alan: In fact, they established countries.
Jackie: Yes, they established the borders. The bounds.
Alan: And of course, they take many covers. If they’re born there the public will think they are one of us and they’ve given the appropriate name of the country you live in. They’ll adopt all kinds of religions, the main religion of the country. It’s irrelevant to them. And they are the dominant minority.
Jackie: And then change the religion, though.
Alan: They change as they go along, and it’s just like changing uniforms or coats to them.
Jackie: Yes, now we’re at our break time.
And Alan Watt is with us, of course. And we’ve been disconnected a couple of times tonight. Before we go further, Alan, why don’t you give them your address, let them know how they can get your books, and then I have a question I want to ask you about this religion thing.
Alan: Okay. I have three books, dealing with the history of where we have been and where we are, where we’re going.
Jackie: Where they would like us to go.
Alan: Well, they’re actually doing it. They’re getting us from this field to the next field you might say. [Ordering information on transcript.] I go into it in detail. I show you the Masonic links to it. I show you the early, what would be called Masonic links, far earlier than the guilds were created in the Middle Ages, which is the usual cover they give this whole movement. And I go back into ancient times to show you that they had the similar movements on the go when Rome and Greece was at the height of their power. And I show you how the money was introduced into countries, first in the way of gold, which they measured and weighed, and silver. Silver was more plentiful, actually. And around 800BC, they actually started minting the first coins, which kind of throws out the story of the Old Testament, where I think it was Abraham paid for so many shekels for a tomb for his wife. It couldn’t have happened, unless it happened around 800BC, because that’s when the first minted coins came out. Before that, they simply cut strips from a bracelet you wound around your arm like a wire, and they weighed it on the spot. And the international money traders who were also the international merchants would go from country to country and first get the public used to accepting their wares through trade for other goods, and then they started to introduce their money in and say, well, we won’t accept anything except money. And once those countries accepted their money, they naturally took over the system, which they had just installed.
Jackie: I’m back, Alan. And I have been for a while. I didn’t want to interrupt. You know, we had Roger, Monday, on with us. I should call Roger. Haven’t talked with him in ages, but he explained to us the situation here in the US, in America, very early on, where they forced the rural people into coinage, by taxing them and they didn’t have anything to pay the taxes with, because it had to be paid with their particular coinage.
Alan: That’s right. I’ve actually spoken to people whose fathers had to get jobs, regular jobs, rather than barter and trade or do work for goods. And they had to go out and get regular jobs just to earn the money to pay the taxes. So they were covering their bases by forcing everybody into their system.
Jackie: Now, what about that section, I wonder, of the Constitution, that says no state can accept anything other than gold or silver coins as legal tender in payment of debt.
Alan: No. In fact, I’ve got a book by Webster, which was written in the 1800s, and I believe in there he even goes through a lot of the various agreements that had been arrived at by the states towards the federal government. And part of the exchange for joining the federation of the US was for each state to give up so much of its land in payment of that fee. And that’s in Webster’s own speeches.
Jackie: But what does that have to do with the fact that it’s still in the Constitution that no state can accept?
Alan: Well, it just shows you that politicians are liars, and it doesn’t matter what they write down, they do something different.
Jackie: Yeah. Right, exactly.
Alan: You see, that’s as simple as that.
Jackie: Because if anybody tried to enforce that, well, that’s a whole other subject.
Alan: And who’s going to try that, you know.
Jackie: Well, what’s his name, Tupper Saussy. Remember we talked about that. And I do understand now, because, see, that was when I got ticked off at you one of the times I got ticked off at you. Because I had read his book, Miracle on Main Street, and that’s exactly what he was promoting in the book. And evidently there were some people in certain towns and maybe one particularly, but they were literally handing in the IOUs, and saying as soon as there’s legal tender, I’ll pay the taxes, I’ll pay this fine, I’ll pay this license fee, and accept this as my promissory note. And then Tupper Saussy went to prison. And I thought that was a great idea. See, the one thing that you made very clear, but I didn’t get it at the time, is that gold, they control the gold, as you said. You know. I remember saying, well, it’s better than nothing isn’t it? And you said, no, because you cannot get out of the system by using their system.
Alan: That’s right. It’s a total system. And the reason it’s total is because it’s such an ancient plan. It’s worked on throughout every generation. It’s intergenerational. And they have thousands of think tanks, dealing with thousands of their problems. And they come up with the solutions of how to get everybody under their thumb, in their system, and obeying their system.
Jackie: You know, I have a thought though, that some of these types of things, like what Tupper Saussy was promoting, maybe those have been the little holdbacks, or the things that have kept at least, I don’t know, in other words, Alan, they have been working on this plan for millennia, and it looks today like they’re very, very, very close, although you said they’ve been very close before, and it’s just never happened.
Alan: Well, they do get to a stage, every so many thousands, you see, this is thousands of years old. And, as I say, even the rabbis admit that this part of the plan, this stage of the plan came down as they call it, about 4,600 or 4,500 BC.
Jackie: This stage that we’re in right now.
Alan: Yes. And so it was tried before.
Jackie: But what happened? Did they say what happened?
Alan: It’s in lots of literature, which is all Aramaic primarily; there’s some Greek literature on it. There’s a lot of literature from India, that’s got much more ancient, extensive histories. They claim that we have gone through these major disasters as they call it, often brought about by man himself, meaning the elite, of course, who, just when they’re ready to declare themselves gods to the public, something steps in and knocks them down. But along with that, the tradition is that you must have enough people who are totally aware of the situation, of the history of the whole agenda, and who also know that we cannot go through what we’re going through and want to bring the same system back.
Jackie: Oh, yeah. Like “Take America Back”.
Alan: Whatever comes out of this will not be the way it was. And how can it be the way it was, when you’re already a slave? Why would you want to go back into a slave system?
Jackie: Exactly. Why would we want to go back? We talked a little bit earlier today, and I know I mentioned this to you. For our listeners, I’ll say it again. You get, like I got an email today. And it was this America First, Take Back America and all this. And it was some Doctor, and I just wrote to him, and I said, actually, there’s nothing to take back, because it never was ours in the first place. And I remember the statement that was attributed to Woodrow Wilson, when he was President. And he said that the Constitution was based on the Hebrew Parliament. What’s the Hebrew Parliament, Alan, if it isn’t the Sanhedrin?
Alan: Well, it must be a big secret, I guess.
Jackie: Well, maybe that’s the Sanhedrin.
Alan: Well, it’s more than even the Sanhedrin. It’s another organization that doesn’t even mean that it’s even Hebrew. These characters are very good at using names to cast the guilt from themselves to other people. All the time they do this. And of course, there’s no such thing as a Jewish Parliament, really. The Sanhedrin was more of….
Jackie: No, they specifically said Hebrew, and this was in a book that was written in 1944 by this guy named Fink, titled America and Israel. And he was the one that quoted, and maybe he just misquoted Wilson?
Alan: It’s very possible, because even in the supposed, which I don’t think existed, the Hebrew Society, there was no parliament as such.
Jackie: Yeah. Well, that’s why when I read that, the Hebrew Parliament, I was thinking of the Talmudic Sanhedrin. That’s the thought that came into my mind. But, it is, and it isn’t easy, and yet for us to yearn for what was in the past, Alan, what we’re yearning for is the dream that we were in.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: About what we were told, this wonderful country, America, the Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave, and…
Alan: And John Wayne.
Jackie: Yeah, John Wayne. Oh, yeah. And our “sacred founders.” When we discover that behind the scenes stuff, then we have to give it up, and just understand. I mean, we can each in our own mind have a vision, if you would, of what this world would be like, if, let’s say it were created by our creator. But it will unfold, somehow or the other, but there is nothing to go back to.
Alan: No. That was what Lenin talked about quite a lot. And he studied under the best bankers on the planet, so he knew his stuff. And he said that there are a thousand directions that societies can go, thousands of different ways of living, but the public must not be made to realize this. They must think that the one they’re born into is the only natural evolution there could possibly be. And that’s the whole trick to this. You’re born into it. Your parents don’t know. They’ve swallowed the world as it was presented to them.
Jackie: Grandparents don’t know. Great-grandparents don’t know.
Alan: And you swallow the world as it’s been presented to you, and yet you’re terrified of losing that system because it’s the only one you know. It’s the only one you know.
Jackie: Maybe that’s where that phase comes in, as I was talking about at the beginning of the broadcast. That the true, the real, real, reality of creation is love. It is benevolent. And maybe there’s something to be said literally for getting out of the way, as I was talking about then, getting out of the way, and wanting only Creator’s Will be done. Because there is only one will. You know, ultimately, and that would be Creator’s Will, but we get in the way of that, Alan.
Alan: It is true enough, you see, people who have been raised to believe in a certain deity and a certain way of living, and rules and regulations, and laws, have never thought about how they would be if they were born into a society where that particular deity didn’t exist. In other words, how would you behave if you hadn’t been given all that religion? How would you be? How would society be? And of course, those who are terrified of any kind of change, will say, well, it would be horrific, you see.
Jackie: Right. It would be horrific.
Alan: So those people love Socialism. They love the idea that experts are taking care of them, or at least they think that they are, and they’re comfortable in it. And those people are the dead. And of course, in the mystery religion, which has always been with us, that was the real meaning when Jesus said let the dead bury their dead. They are not alive. When they die it’s as though they had never existed, because they change nothing in their life.
Jackie: Well, they never lived.
Alan: And so, born again, literally meant that you literally had an astounding experience, where you saw everything as it really, really was. That’s what born again meant. You saw it all. You relearned how the world was, the meanings behind everything you’d taken for granted, and you saw the reasons for it being indoctrinated into you. And that’s what born again used to mean. Today it means a happy high that you suddenly get in religion. And you go off every Sunday and wave your arms about, and go into a sort of trancic stupor of happiness. And so you get your fix every Sunday. That’s been a recent manipulation, that whole movement. Because, as I say, at one time, born again literally meant, your eyes were totally opened, and you had to relearn everything all over again.
Jackie: In other words, the statement that’s attributed to Jesus in the New Testament, that he said, “Seek ye the truth. Ye shall know the truth and the truth will make you free.”
Alan: And that’s the key to it, because if you had to seek the truth in his day, it tells you the same system was operating back then.
Jackie: Of course, of course. And, you know, when we get into conversations like this, I wish it was Monday, or I wish we had three hours. Because this is taking us in a place that, I think is so. There was a question that I wanted to ask you. And I think it is along the same lines that we’re talking. The ancient, okay, in The Golden Bough, when you read The Golden Bough, you see, you know, I had in my own mind, in my own o-pin-ion, if you would, or vision, or picture of, oh, those pagans. They had open sex in fields, and it was just nothing but a sexual orgy. Well, you realize that these people were so natural, and they, I don’t believe that they worshiped the earth, but they knew that that was their life source. But they had all these gods. You know, brother sun, and mother moon, and father this, and mother sea and all that. Well, my question that I have in my mind, was this given to them by some priesthood, or were they just being natural?
Alan: I think they were probably being more natural, because we view things entirely differently when we’re indoctrinated with scientific explanations for things. So, some of the things that are perfectly natural in human nature, which creates mystery. Mystery is an essential part of human nature. Mystery goes hand and hand with comfort and belonging. And when you see a hilltop, it might be magical to you, because you have a tremendous, wonderful feeling there. And so that is perfectly, perfectly natural. It doesn’t mean that you end up worshiping the mountain. It simply means that for you, that’s a magical place.
Jackie: Well, remember when we were talking, I don’t know how many broadcasts ago, about the hermaphrodites and about women, today, who have given up, literally, the most precious function that the female has in this world. Number one it’s nurturing, but the procreation. You know, it takes the male seed, but right now as we are, and they knew it then, that it was the woman who kept the clans going, who procreated. And women were revered for that.
Alan: That’s right. Mind you, you can do an awful lot in a good society without any lawyers you see. It’s the lawyers and the business and the system that creates the strife, as they manipulate the system for their own ends. But there’s no doubt that women are the main target really, because they understand male and female. They understand both psychologies, and they target so much of the New Age Philosophy that Gorbachev was talking about, about creating and bringing to the main religion of the world. They understand the female is more in tune with flowers, plants, and so on, through her natural nature. And they’re manipulating that for their own ends, against the best wishes of the people. So they know how to do that with the woman. And with the guy at the moment, I mean….
Jackie: But what they’ve done with the woman is masculinized her, Alan.
Alan: That’s what Carl Jung said. He said, it’s all over, he said, when the female loses her eros. And he said that in the ’50s, when he watched American women emulate the males in their dress, in the way that they walked to try to match their strides, and then try to copy their body language, then of course they started to talk like men, as well. And they knew darn well that man does not want to marry a competitor, you see. And that’s what they created. Naturally, that’s why no marriages pretty well, on the whole anyway, work anymore. You don’t marry to get into competition with somebody. You marry somebody for their difference.
Jackie: Well, you know, okay. Here’s a thought. I want to get this in before this broadcast is over, because, you know, when you read Paul, in the Old Testament, women are to be seen and not heard, and etc. And the male is the godhead of the home and etc. But in marriage, a true marriage, even though the male has the superior strength, the female has nurturing, and as you said, the understanding of herbs and flowers, etc. In a true relationship, on an emotional or mental level, wouldn’t it be that there would be a partnership, so to speak?
Alan: It should be, but one of the male specialties is survival capabilities. And to have survival capabilities, his instincts will take over, and the woman must follow.
Jackie: Yeah, well, if it comes down to survival.
Alan: But the government has overpassed the male by giving us media stars to follow, like Dr. Phil and so on.
Jackie: Then you’re saying that women don’t have that survival instinct.
Alan: Not the same. No.
Jackie: Not the same.
Alan: Not the same. Women will go for security and that’s why they go for….
Jackie: God, we’re out of time, oh jeez, we’re out of this hour. Oh, Alan. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be back with you Monday. And I don’t know. Maybe we would. I don’t know, if we could pick this conversation up again, but I would like to consider it. Alan, thank you.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: This was lovely, tonight. Thank you. Good Night, ladies and gentlemen.
Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for being with us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Monday. It is the 8th of August in the year 2005. Hope you had a nice weekend, and I’m glad you’re back, and I’m glad to be back with you. I’m going to begin here tonight with our spiritual message. This is from “Writings by the Essential Alan Watts”, that’s W-A-T-T-S, and this is a short one. It’s on faith. He says, “Faith is a state of openness, or trust. To have faith is like when you trust yourself to the water. You don’t grab hold of the water when you swim, because if you do, you’ll become stiff and tight, and you’ll sink. You have to relax. And the attitude of faith is the very opposite of clinging and holding on. In other words a person who’s a fanatic in matters of religion, and clings to certain ideas about the nature of God and the Universe, becomes the person who has no faith at all. Instead they’re holding tight. But the attitude of faith is to let go and become open to truth, whatever it might turn out to be.” Whatever it might turn out to be, folks. I like that. And Alan Watt, the essential Alan Watt is with us tonight. Not Alan Watts. Alan, thanks for being here.
Alan Watt: It’s a pleasure, yeah.
Jackie: You know this Alan Watts?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: You do?
Alan: He may be a relative, actually.
Jackie: Yeah, well, I wondered.
Alan: Yeah, a branch of the family did end up in California in the late 1800s. And they spawned quite a few Watts. They added the S to it, because the ones who registered them were used to the English spelling. Of course, the original one was just W-A-T-T.
Jackie: Some of his writings are, because somebody emailed me. I think it was email, shoot, I don’t know, maybe they mailed them to me. Anyway, I found his writings quite intriguing. And so, I don’t know if I should say this or not, but I, well, we’re on this subject. I remember, a long time ago, you said you had a black sheep in your family.
Alan: Yes, indeed, yeah.
Jackie: It wasn’t him? Yeah, right?
Alan: No, no.
Jackie: You want to talk about it or no?
Alan: It doesn’t really matter.
Jackie: Okay. You never did tell me about it either, come to think of it. Well, Alan. Thanks for being here tonight.
Alan: Yeah, as I say, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: We were in such a fascinating conversation last Wednesday, when we ran out of our hour. And I always so dread when that happens, because sometimes the conversation itself really just takes a turn that you wish you had another hour or two, and we didn’t and it’s really difficult to pick it up, isn’t it. We were talking actually about, you know, the hermaphrodites and stuff like that. And then we got talking about man and woman and you were talking about, you know the fact that, in fact maybe you could expand on this a little bit more. Maybe it doesn’t need expanding upon, but the fact that women have been really targeted to help push through, if you would, the plan for world dominion, because of their emotionalism, and what?
Alan: Well, I always say that on this subject, there’s no one, there’s nothing on the planet been so thoroughly observed nature-wise than man and woman. And the ancients knew perfectly well the differences of the male and the female natures, and they also knew how to exploit either one of them.
Jackie: Would you repeat that, Alan?
Alan: Yeah, the ancients. When you read the ancients’ writings on the difference between male and female, they knew both natures perfectly well. They knew all the natural tribal aspects of both. Which all our natural survival comes from, really our survival needs and mechanisms, comes from tribalism. But they also knew the distinct difference between the male and the female, and by knowing the differences they could exploit either one, whenever it suited them. And every government in what we call civilization, meaning the birth of priesthoods and writing, and money, altogether, you’ll find they’ve always exploited either the male or the female for particular goals, politically. And what they knew in ancient times was that in tribalism, most of the women lived in the middle of the village, where it was secure….
Jackie: So the men could protect them?
Alan: They didn’t have to worry about enemies or anything, or predators coming through, because the men were on the perimeter. The men were always off hunting, too. So, the men took the protective role on. And that’s what’s claimed, that’s where the reason for women’s ability to communicate much more easily than the male came from. Because they had a relaxed atmosphere and there was no tension. They felt secure. So, the female looks for security above all other things. And because she needs security, when the Catholic Church came into Europe on the heels of the Normans, the Norman invasion, these strange people who came across, with this system of money, kings and queens, aristocracy, and backed up by a Church, the Catholic Church, as they were destroying the tribal system, they made it mandatory that one man and one woman would mate for life. And so, a form of breeding program took over, where they kept the genealogies of the workers.
Jackie: It wasn’t like that back in the tribal, in the more ancient?
Alan: No. There was no external priesthood who came in, or foreign priesthood who came in. In fact, Tacitus, who was the historian for Nero, he recorded how the people in Britain lived, in the tribes. And he said that if a male and female did choose to live together, it was not mandatory, but if a male and female did choose to live together, she would come in, or he would come into her place, and live for up to six months. And if they decided mutually that it wasn’t working, he would then leave, and there was no discrimination from the rest of the tribe, or fallout of any kind. It was perfectly accepted as a natural way, rather than go through all the nonsense of, you know. So, that was the way that they lived.
Jackie: That was in those tribes in Britain.
Alan: And throughout Europe, too.
Jackie: Yeah, I suppose there were variations.
Alan: Yeah, as I say, most of the women, and they knew, you see, that sexuality, they called the woman the gateway to the sexual experience, because, really, the power for yes or no, is in the hands of the woman. She can entice a man over, allow him to know that she’s interested, and just as easily, she can put him off, or just look away. And so, the women, they weren’t what we would normally today call promiscuous, but they certainly could pick any partner at any time they wanted to. And the children were brought up communally in the center of the tribe, by all the women.
Jackie: It takes a village.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: You know, in a sense, Alan, that stupid book, you know, that allegedly was written by Hillary Clinton, when you think about it, it really is a wonderful opportunity for children to live in a community like that. You know, when I was married to Nick Patru, and we lived in a Chicago suburb, in Palatine, and it was a real trenchant mix of people, people who had been, a lot of them were in positions in large corporations. In fact, one family was from England, that got actually transferred over here. So, most of us were away from our extended family. And it sort of became that neighborhood, there were probably ten or twelve families, and we did so many fun things together. We lived at the end of a block that you know wasn’t completely developed, and we’d get a permit, and have a big block party in the summer, and games for the children. And I can remember when Nicole came up, well, I thought she was missing. It was evening, just dusk. And we were all standing out, you know, a few of us standing out talking, and suddenly I looked around. Nicole was a little girl, and I didn’t see her. And I ran in the house, and she wasn’t in the house. And she was playing with the little girl next door, the McIntyres, the people from England, and I ran over there, and they weren’t there. And I, of course, really got panicked, but I’m going to tell you, that within a matter of five minutes I was getting calls from people three blocks away, saying, okay, we’re out, we’re looking. And it was just, it was like ants out there. It turned out kind of humorous, because when I went into our house, evidently they had been over to the McIntyres, and then they walked from there over back to our house, and I missed them both ways. And, we found them sitting watching television in the family room. But it was so cool that everybody came forth like that. And when children were some place playing, wherever they were playing, the parents there were keeping their eyes on the children. And I loved it. It really was that kind of a feeling, where people cared about others, and about all the children, not just their own. Something that I thought about. You said something last week that sparked a thought in my mind, when you mentioned that the men are more survival. They have a stronger survival instinct, did you say?
Alan: No.
Jackie: Okay, what did you say?
Alan: In a natural setting, the man’s survival instincts were supreme, because he could sense the coming danger. He knew how to handle various outside threats, and suchlike. And of course, when the priesthoods came in with the system they brought with them, backed by military force, and destroyed the tribal system, what they did then, was elevate the king, the queen, the nobility, the priests as well, over the head of the husband, because the women crave security. And they would promise them peace and security, and all this kind of thing. And so, the husband, even though it was mandatory that he marry this woman, he was second rate in a sense. He didn’t have the authority that he used to have. And we see this in modern times more so, because the television, which is a programmer, that’s why they’re called programs, it programs the public on what to think and the topics, on what they should dwell upon and so on. It gives you your opinion, really. They go over the heads of all the husbands and have since the days of Donahue, especially, where they put on all these programs, one hour specials, psychological roller coasters, really, which brought you from a starting point to a finishing conclusion on every topic they introduced, done expertly, with psychologists helping the show. And women were being downloaded with all this information. The husbands had no idea. And this was all to help with the so-called sexual revolution. And women eventually, once again, they’ve replaced their husband from the position he once held, and they’ve replaced him with guys like Dr. Phil. So when Dr. Phil says something, it must be true. And if old Harry, sitting over there, says something, well, who is he. He’s not on television. That’s how simply this technique works. So, the people who manipulate the sides understand this. Now, when it comes to personal, individual, survival, the woman will outstrip the male. And all studies have shown this. That whereas men, if they ever leave a wife, will do it spontaneously, or through an argument or something, whereas the woman will, the guy is the last to know when the woman leaves. And she’ll have planned it probably at least months ago, every step. And so, women will always survive in order to simply be happy or to choose the way they want to live, or what they want to do, but it’s methodical, and it’s for themselves personally. Not necessarily even for children. It’s for their own personal.
Jackie: How do you know that? How do you know that, what you’re saying?
Alan: Because it’s in all the modern psychological studies, and sociological studies.
Jackie: Well, wasn’t what’s his name, oh God, that pervert, Kinsey, wasn’t he put up there as a great…
Alan: Leader, yeah.
Jackie: Okay, well. I guess, okay. Maybe I’m relating what you’re saying to myself personally. But, if a woman has children, I mean, for the most part, her first thought is going to be how am I going to be able to take care of myself and the children. I don’t think that women in general make these plans or these moves with only their selves in mind.
Alan: Well, you’ll find if you read the modern sociological studies, and it’s all for social workers, and it comes from social workers.
Jackie: But how do we know those statistics are real, Alan?
Alan: You can check them. In fact, you can phone up personal social workers you know and they will tell you that’s exactly what they experience, over and over.
Jackie: The women care more about themselves than they do their children?
Alan: When it comes to the crunch, for their own, what they’ve decided is happiness, they will plan their own exit, as I say, long in advance. It’s not spontaneous. And I’m not talking about abuse situations or anything like that, where it is, it might be spontaneous. I’m talking about personal survival for their own personal happiness, or a change of mind over something, career-wise or whatever. That is the general trend that’s verified over and over. So, that is what happens.
Jackie: You know what I’ve noticed. And this is going back quite a ways, through my past, with friends and I’m talking about even after high school, when my friends began getting married, and we were getting married and wanting to raise families, etc, something that I noticed is that a lot of times, a woman won’t even leave a bad situation unless she has another mate to fall back on. I’ve seen that happen a lot.
Alan: That’s common as well. But today, with all the massive money that’s been put into shelters for women, and their children. And every township even has homes that are kept vacant and are on a rotating schedule as more come in.
Jackie: Yeah, but aren’t those for abused women, for the most part?
Alan: Well, they can claim any kind of abuse, mental abuse, and they don’t even have to hear another side of it. It’s mandatory now. But for males out there, there is nothing. There’s nothing at all.
Jackie: Well, let me tell you what Joseph Biden said. Boy, Alan, when he said this, this stuck with me. It was when they were working on the crime bill. And that would have been probably some time back in ’93 or ’94 or somewhere around there, when I was a C-SPAN junkie. He was talking about this crime bill. And he was telling about some of the new laws that were going to be in place. For example, if a woman was beat by her husband, she didn’t have to report him, but if somebody else reported him, that was a crime against the state. And the man would be picked up. And he said, we, with this bill, we are going to empower women like they have never been empowered before. And they certainly did it, didn’t they, Alan?
Alan: They did it. And now, it’s customary for lawyers…
Jackie: Like you said, a woman can make an accusation.
Alan: And they’ve found this through many studies, it’s customary for lawyers now to advise all women who come to them to state that their husbands were sexually abusing their children. That’s now common practice.
Jackie: I was just going to say that. All a woman has to do is make an accusation, and she could do it out of nothing but spite. Maybe find out her husband has a lover or something, and she makes an accusation, that man is going to go through hell.
Alan: Yes. So, yeah, the people at the top use marriage, in fact, they created marriage as we know it, to serve a certain era, for their own ends, not for the people’s ends. They had to get a certain stock, a hardy stock built up, to go through an industrial era. And that’s when the frenzy of activity through science began, was in the 1500s. And nothing much happened from the Norman invasion right up into the 1500s. And when they knew they had to by the year 2000 have gone through an industrial and a technological era, then that’s when they started the marriage program, big time. And keeping genealogies, all kept by churches, births, deaths, etc. And the priests, generally, up until the Protestant Revolution, were the matchmakers. They decided who married whom. And when the priest suggested to you that your daughter should marry this guy over there, that wasn’t a suggestion. That was basically an order. So, they were mating up people to be hardy stock, to go through the industrial era, which they had to get through, to build up the sciences, which they had to acquire. They knew where they were going with it all.
Jackie: I wonder if this conversation right now would sound like something out of this world to a new listener.
Alan: If he’s a new listener, he’s going to have to accept that or go further.
Jackie: Yeah, well. Yes. I just wanted to say this though, because it just entered my mind, that if you are a new listener, you should not reject out of hand what you’re hearing, because if you are a new listener, you’ve missed hours and hours and hours. And if you haven’t read Alan’s books, and the confirmation that I’ve received over the years, that well, ha, actually, I don’t know of anything that I have found refuted yet, Alan. But I do remember, you know, when we first began to do broadcasts together, I don’t know how many times I would say to our listeners, just because Alan says this doesn’t mean it’s so, because I don’t know that it is. And so, I invited them to listen and consider, but to do their homework. And that was when finally, you know, we talked about, and you decided it would be very helpful when you wrote that first book, to confirm for people, from ancient or old books and writings and etc. But, I didn’t disbelieve you, but I didn’t necessarily believe you. You understand what I’m saying. And now, as we’re talking, this seems so natural to me, what we’re talking about, and so not matter of fact, but that I know it’s so. I know that it is so, what the planning. It’s been a science for a long, long time, hasn’t it, Alan?
Alan: Oh, absolutely. And it was used in the Middle East thousands of years before the marriage system even, for control purposes, where the king or the state would rule over the public, rather than have a tribe living there independently and all working together. So, yeah, they displaced the tribe and then they become the substitute leaders, and they have total control over everyone, but they still use tribal techniques. That’s why they give you national symbols, which is drummed into you that that’s yours, and you will respond to those things as soon as you see them, and national anthems. These are all tribal things, you see.
Jackie: Like a flag.
Alan: A flag and brass bands and tunes. All that kind of thing. And every country is given their own national anthem. And they hear that and they cry and all this stuff. And someone points the way to war, and they all just rush off. This is just basic tribal conditioning, which is being used.
Jackie: And you know what I find interesting. The, I think it’s England’s, it’s God Save the Queen, or God Save the King. That tune is the same exact tune that we sing, America, oh Beautiful for Spacious Skies, I think that’s the one. Okay. And then, when I was doing a search on the internet for when we were talking about quite a while ago, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Zeus, Zeus-Pater. Well, okay, I found a song, an old Masonic song, and it was sung to the tune of America. And it was about Jehovah, Jove, Creator of All, Jehovah, Jove, is exactly what it said.
Alan: The same, the same By George, that’s how it ends.
Jackie: Jehovah, Jove, our Lord.
Alan: Sure, this is an amazing dual reality. We’re given one reality, while the other ones that run this show, laugh up their sleeves when they live in the other reality. And that’s just the way it is. We are perfectly dumbed down, cattle, basically, for their purposes. We serve their purpose. And now, with the UN Charter, and the whole globalistic push, they’ve simply put it into writing, that we are, our duty is to serve the state, the world state. That’s what they’re talking about.
Jackie: You know, I made a little note here when you were talking about marriage. How they pushed marriage for their own. Well, I don’t know how it is in other states, but I have, right from the law books, here, in Pennsylvania, that in marriage there are three parties. The husband, the wife, and the state.
Alan: And the state.
Jackie: Of necessity.
Alan: That’s why you have a license.
Jackie: Alan, when I saw that, I thought, oh, my God. And then you think about it. The State can either yes or no, whether you can even get a marriage license, okay? And then, it’s up to the State, the judges, the courts, to either okay or deny a divorce. And then they get in the middle of all the, you know, little details of who gets what, and who and etc. And it’s all decided by the State.
Alan: That’s right. So, yeah, they run the whole show. And we really don’t have the freedoms we thought we had. We have freedom within their system to follow the rules within their system. But, if you try to walk to the edge of that system, suddenly you’ll find that it’s a different world altogether. Because people will appear from odd places, and put you right back into that system or else. So, yeah, we are economic units who supply the energy, just like the batteries in the Matrix, for the elitists’ purposes. That’s our function. And under the UN Charter, we are economic units, and our duty, as I say, is to serve the World State. Now even a citizen, the term citizen, legally means, you’re born into a system with pre-existing duties. How can you be free if you’re born into a system where there are pre-existing duties, you see. That’s not freedom at all. You’re born, in other words, with a purpose, to serve them.
Jackie: You know, when you mentioned the word unit. I had a friend from when I lived in Collinville, Illinois. He was in a high position, a management position in an insurance company. And I was talking to him about some of this stuff, a long time ago, when I very first started. And he smiled at me, and he said, you know what they call the insurance agents, and I said, no, and they were something like, not economic units, but it was something unit. That they were actually referred to as units. He said, you’re not going to like this, but he got it, Alan. Folks, we’re going to take a break here.
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Jackie: We’re back. I made a couple of notes here, Alan, thoughts that I had when you were talking about these economic units. And I wrote, you know, as you were talking, capital, The Herd, and Chattel. That is the root of that world. And then the chattel in those days were their cattle. And they were actually, their value or their wealth was determined by how many head of cattle they had.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And that was their capital.
Alan: Yes, and that’s why, when Margaret Thatcher was in, she brought back what they called the head tax.
Jackie: Head, oh, we have head tax here.
Alan: They just count the heads. And if you go back to Plato, Plato had the order, the ruling elites with the dominant minority running the show called The Guardians. They were the perpetual guardians of their system. That’s what they meant by that. Then they’d have the helpers of the Guardians.
Jackie: Say that again.
Alan: Plato, 2300 years ago, wrote The Republic. And that was his vision of a future World State, run by the elite, for the elite, in perpetuity. And it had always been going, actually before he was born, and he got it all from Egypt, where he studied. He gave the system out there. He said that there’s a guardian class. The Guardians, again, are split up into sections. They have the absolute top or creme-de-le-creme of the Guardian class.
Jackie: Who, okay, as an example, in today’s world.
Alan: But getting back to it, you have to understand what he said first, before you can get back to today.
Jackie: Okay, I just wanted, and then, you’ll give us an example.
Alan: Yeah, because he said that at the top, and this is a Masonic coding, by the way, the Lazy Boy, LaZy Boy, la in French, of course, the male-female hermaphrodite, that’s what they mean by that, Z Boy, and the Z is connected, as above so below. And the Y, again, is the male, primarily male form, or mentality, the Y chromosome. So boy, the Lazy Boy doesn’t do any work. So at the top, the ones who run the show do no work. And so, below them, they have what they call the Fat Man. The Fat Man goes round all the higher lodges and picks up all the data on everyone. That’s his job. That’s why you had Fat Man and Little Boy for the Atomic Bombs they dropped on Japan. It was all Masonic coding. When they dropped them on the 33rd degree parallel.
Jackie: What was Little Boy?
Alan: Yeah, 33rd degree parallel, Hiroshima. 33 degrees.
Jackie: Yeah, but what was Little Boy? That wasn’t Lazy Boy, was it?
Alan: It was a form of it, yeah.
Jackie: Okay, Fat Boy and Little Boy.
Alan: And Little Boy. Fat Man and Little Boy.
Jackie: Fat Man and Little Boy.
Alan: And of course, in the Batman, you have Batman and Robin, who’s a little boy. Because in the ancient philosophers, who helped set this system up, always had their little boy. Anyway, the top Guardian class, and then the dominant minority, that would be the ones who were shown to the public as being in charge of affairs, the actual workers on a higher level, there you could definitely point to the guys like Kissinger, who has always been involved behind the scenes in politics, and obviously takes his orders from a higher source, not presidents.
Jackie: Yeah. Would Rockefellers and them be?
Alan: Rockefeller too, no doubt about it. They said in the 1700s that they would dominate the world by what they called philanthropy, philanthropic methods. Meaning, if they could give the big money to create charitable organizations with what would appear to have good social values, then they would eventually end up making the social values and the policies, which they have done. All policies now have their champions, and the NGOs are all funded by the big philanthropic organizations. And the Rockefeller foundation is now in charge also of a couple of other ones. Like the Morgan Trust was one of them they took over. Like the Morgan Bank. And so they have these charitable trusts, where they can choose which NGOs they will finance.
Jackie: And they are tax free.
Alan: And they also, every university, in the States, the US and in Canada, gets funding from these philanthropic organizations. And Rockefeller funds every university in Canada. But along with the funding comes little requests, not to talk about certain subjects, you see.
Jackie: We have a call. Shall we take it?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Hi, you’re on the air.
Caller: Hi, yes. Hello. I just have a question for Alan, and then I’ll hang up, so I can hear him. I want to know the play of, the position of, I’m sure he may have heard of it, of the place called the Bank for International Settlements. There was a woman on I think Joyce Riley and Dave von Kleist show and gave a website, I think it’s womansgroup.org. And she said that was.
Jackie: That was Joan Veon.
Caller: Right, right. And she said that every month, all these big banks, the banks that run the Bank of England, the Federal Reserve, they all, they have chairmen, the chairman’s appointed by directors of the board, that Greenspan is the chairman and the other bank is the Bank of England, they all have to report once they actually go there physically. I mean, it could be done on the phone or the internet, but they go there physically, once a month, to the Bank of International Settlements.
Jackie: What is your question, Storm?
Caller: And also, if the Bank of International Settlements has a website, or something, if he could, you know, find out.
Jackie: Okay. What is your question, Storm?
Caller: Well, what I want to know is, that bank, is that the top bank that runs these other banks. And this woman, she was talking about Sith and Lucifer and all that. Is that really true about this Lucifer stuff? Because, as far as I know, what Cooper….
Jackie: Okay, just state your question, honey.
Caller: Oh, okay. Well, I want to know if he could elaborate on that, on the Bank of International Settlements, who runs it. Because I know, you know, the Federal Reserve is run by Rockefeller, and.
Jackie: Okay, okay. Thank you. Okay, thanks Storm.
Caller: Okay, bye.
Jackie: Sorry about that, Alan.
Alan: Yeah. It’s just a sidetrack, that.
Jackie: Yeah, it was a sidetrack, wasn’t it?
Alan: Yeah. To get us off in a whole bunch stuff of stuff they can find on the Internet themselves. The International Monetary Fund is the big boy. The rest of it is just the compartments of the legal system.
Jackie: IMF is the big bank, the big one. And isn’t it interesting that the Secretary of the Treasury of the US is the governor of the International Monetary Fund.
Alan: Yeah, well. Everything is connected.
Jackie: I know, Alan. But, you know what, you know that. But when it can be connected for others.
Alan: Well, if they’ve been listening to Joyce and Dave, I’m sure they know it all. And Joan Veon just happens to get into all these meetings. Maurice Strong, who was the second in command at the UN, and in charge of the World Bank, put there by Rockefeller, knows her by first name.
Jackie: According to her?
Alan: Yeah. Now, you can’t get near that guy with all his bodyguards, you know, unless you’re really in there. And I understand her job is international investments.
Jackie: Yeah, it’s an international women’s group, is what it’s called.
Alan: Yeah, of investment companies. And what they do is they go there, and they find out where the US is going to plunk more money, which country, and then they tell all their members, you’re guaranteed this is going to be a winner, because the US is financing it. This is a con game. It’s a con game. So, their job is to go round and make sure you’re terrified by what’s coming. They have no answers for you, but they make their living on it. A very good living, by the way. In fact, Veon couldn’t survive in the lifestyle she must live, without the World Bank and the UN. International investments. That’s all I have to say on that.
Jackie: Okay, thank you, Alan.
Alan: So, if we get back to Plato and the Republic.
Jackie: Okay, yes, and you were explaining, or giving us some examples of the dominant minority. And that would include the Rothschilds also.
Alan: Yeah. Those that are visible to the public in high social managerial positions.
Jackie: Okay. And today, who would be the Fat Man?
Alan: The Fat Man is a collector who goes round. They also call him the Grey Man. And the Grey Man is the person who goes between the ones who are never seen by the public and brings the policies to the presidents, the advisors to presidents. So the Grey Men take that position as well, on a higher level.
Jackie: They’re the advisors.
Alan: On lower levels, on high Masonic organizations, the Fat Man, as they call him, goes round and gets all the info.
Jackie: We have another call here. Hello.
Caller: No, very quickly. I wanted him to elaborate on Benjamin Creme and this Lord Maitreya business. Who is the Maitreya? Is he real? Or is this something fake? A representation, or what? If he could just elaborate on that. He was on the George Noory Show and…
Jackie: Well….
Caller: I know. But what’s funny is, when they give themselves away. George Noory played Van Halen’s Running with the Devil, before he put him on. And I said, what the hell is this?
Jackie: Okay. Thanks, Storm.
Caller: Okay.
Alan: These are just distractions we’re getting here.
Jackie: Yeah, do you want to….
Alan: Benjamin Creme’s name tells you all you have to know if you understand Freemasonry.
Jackie: Well, tell us.
Alan: Ben is son of, in Hebrew.
Jackie: Son of.
Alan: And jamin is from James, I am. If you take the y and put the I there from the Latin to the Aramaic. I am the son of crem. Crem is fire. I am the son of fire. It’s Masonic. That’s all you have to know.
Jackie: Son of fire. Well, what does that connote?
Alan: It tells you that it’s another Masonic sideshow.
Jackie: Oh, okay. The Maitreya, is that the same thing?
Alan: Everyone who has seen the light, or broken through into the real world, is called, traditionally, everyone, a Maitreya. So, you can call yourself one, if you want.
Jackie: Oh, okay. Thanks. (Laughter)
Alan: Yeah. That’s Hindu philosophy. And anyone who has broken through is a Maitreya.
Jackie: Okay. I’d like to go back. This is for our listeners. Of course, this whole conversation is for our listeners. But when we were talking about the economic units, the herd, the cattle.
Alan: And Plato, by the way, I should say this, when we’re on that word, unit. He said that the Guardian class, the helpers, the military group that would interbreed with male and female warriors, in the final days of this system, which we have today, and all the ones beneath that were raw material. All the common people were raw material, and they were called not people, but its. And Unit is the French, Un is one. That’s what it means in French. The UN means one. So you have one it. So, you are a one it, a unit. That’s from Plato, right up to today. Hasn’t changed. It’s all coding.
Jackie: I wanted any of our newer listeners, in case that you have any doubts about this portion of our conversation, there is an article by Cindy Weatherly, Are Your Children Human Capital? and underneath that article is an executive order that was signed by Bill Clinton, and it basically was a commission that was to study capital, and it includes in the executive order, that they will study all kinds of capital and including human capital. And then they were supposed to report, and part of the report was on the depreciation of capital. Alan, how do you depreciate human capital?
Alan: If you depreciate them then you simply either breed more, so their value is less, really. Many hands make light work, as they say in China. Or you can go the other way, and you can start the culling of them.
Jackie: That’s what I was thinking. The depreciation of capital.
Alan: Of course the men in the West are becoming sterile with every yearly UN report on male sperm count. Last year, the sperm count was down 75% in the average Western male, aged 25, compared to 1950 levels. So, he’s almost sterile. He’s only got 25% of live sperm, as opposed to his father or grandfather.
Jackie: You know where I was with that? When people are no longer “on the tax rolls” they’re considered useless eaters.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And I was thinking about that as the “depreciation of human capital.” That when you become a useless eater, you need to be sent elsewhere. But yet on the other hand, what you’re saying is the depreciation of human capital could be the reduction of the numbers.
Alan: Absolutely.
Jackie: Oh, Alan. I got. I hadn’t thought about it that way. Wow.
Alan: Yeah. And I should tell them too, maybe, about the three books I’ve got.
Jackie: I think you should.
Alan: Because I go through Freemasonry from ancient times, long before the guilds, all the nonsense they tell you, oh, they began in the Middle Ages with the guilds. No, they were on the go thousands of years ago, much higher orders of course. The guys in the Blue Lodge are at the bottom of the heap. They don’t know there’s anything above them. I go through the history. The monetary history as well. The history of commerce from thousands of years ago. The introduction of money. How the money boys took over the ancient countries one by one, by forming standing armies, which they then sent off to invade other countries. And, so I show you that nothing has changed. And today, the US and Canada and Britain, are simply finishing off the task of bringing the Muslim countries, who don’t allow usury, they’re bringing them into this system called democracy, with a centralized bank, a debt system, and a bunch front people we call politicians, who were chosen by the elite above them. [See ordering information on transcript.] And I sent a stack out just this morning. So, they’ll be getting them soon. So, I’ll have to get another bunch printed up, if I can.
Jackie: Okay, good. So, people who have ordered whatever books they’ve ordered, they’re in the mail.
Alan: They’re on their way.
Jackie: That’s great. You, Alan, you were mentioning in your books, you know, about the democracy. And I’ve been, oh, my goodness. I’ve been in JINSA’s website. That’s the Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs. And they had a press release welcoming John Bolton as the, they call it now, the permanent, this is the way they said it, anyway, the permanent representative of the US to the United Nations. And I recall, and the reason I recall it, is because I bolded it, when I pasted it in, that he was bringing the understanding that democracy is a higher form of government. Now, what does that mean, Alan?
Alan: Well, it does mean, it’s more governed from on high, meaning the people who really run the show anyway.
Jackie: Democracy.
Alan: I mean, people in Britain have known for centuries that democracy is simply the facade for the public. And they call it the establishment, are the ones who really rule the country. And no one bucks the establishment. And these are the ones, the old aristocracies, that have always run the country. Politics and democracy are simply a pantomime for the public, to believe in and get involved in. But it’s a pantomime none the less.
Jackie: Well, basically, they say that democracy is mob rule.
Alan: But it’s not.
Jackie: Yeah, exactly. It’s elite rule, isn’t it?
Alan: It’s elite rule, and they simply use the majority. They use the majority to bring in new forms of whatever. They’ll say, “well, what’s your problem. Everyone else has accepted this.”
Jackie: That’s right.
Alan: That’s the idea.
Jackie: They get the majority to go along with them.
Alan: Because they know that 87% of the public in all ages, in all countries, will always go along with any agenda they’re told to go along with.
Jackie: 87%.
Alan: And therefore, for the ones who hold out, they’ll say, “well, what’s wrong with you. Everyone else have accepted their ID card, you know.” That’s how it works. That’s why they love the term, democracy. But it’s certainly not mob rule, because the mob truly have no real say in anything.
Jackie: Well, no they don’t. But they think they do. That’s the whole point.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: That’s what’s so slick about this plan, Alan. It appears that the people, it’s the people who want this, and really, the people, the majority of the people, have been so mind controlled, that they want whatever they’re told they want. That’s it. They say whatever they’re told to think.
Alan: Exactly.
Jackie: And they say, this is what I think.
Alan: Well, Brzezinski said in the ’70s in one of his books. And he should know, since his speciality was mind control on a mass scale, with psychotronic warfare. He said, shortly the public will be unable to come to a conclusion by themselves. They’ll simply come to the conclusion they’re given by the media on the previous night’s news. And that will be their topics of conversation at work the next day. So, they understand all of this, you know. And strangely enough, even Madame Blavatsky knew this was coming. Because she announced a way of manipulating the minds of everyone was available in the 1800s. And she was afraid this would be used for all the wrong purposes by a few of the elite.
Jackie: Well, what do you mean she was afraid that it would be misused?
Alan: Well, Blavatsky herself was a stooge. You see, all people who come out as a front are often, not that she was well meaning, but many of them are well meaning stooges, who have been told part of the plan, but not the whole thing. And they’ve been told there would be a utopia, etc. But she did know that there was talk in her day of using this technology on the minds of the public. Alexander Graham Bell’s father was using forms of mind impulse, or vibrational impulse to get into the heads of the deaf people by bursting, very controlled bursts of sound waves, which would hit the skulls of people, and they could maybe hear the messages. You’d hear it inside your head. That technology from the 1800s is way, way so advanced now today.
Jackie: Oh, my God.
Alan: And the CIA admit they were using this stuff, back as early as the 1950s.
Jackie: Okay, I want to get back to Blavatsky. Are you saying that she saw this, she saw the potential and thought it could be good?
Alan: She saw it, but she also had, I guess, a little bit of warning that maybe the plan that she’d been told about wasn’t the whole plan, and that there was more to all of this. She had to have, because the doors were opened up for her wherever she went, but she didn’t know the whole plan, I’m sure. She was more of an actress than anything else, you know, who was playing a role.
Jackie: We’ll take a call. You’re on the air.
Caller: Yeah, I was going to say, if anybody is interested, you can get H.P. Blavatsky’s book from Kessingers.net. And also, there’s another author too. Have you ever head of, well, I’m sure you’ve heard of him, Manley P. Hall, The Theosophical Research Society. But Lucifer Magazine, it’s surprising. I didn’t think that Kessinger still published those old magazines.
Jackie: Oh, My God. You know, I’ve always wanted to see those.
Caller: Oh, they do. That’s what I don’t understand, it’s so crazy about this. If Alan is listening to me, he may answer. I don’t understand. Why do they have all the stuff so open?
Jackie: It isn’t open.
Caller: You know what, I don’t care.
Jackie: Kessingers is not open. Thanks, Storm.
Caller: Oh, yes it is. Anybody can get it. You don’t have to be a Mason or belong to secret lodges or anything to order it.
Alan: The reason it’s given to the public is that they want a lot of public support. A lot of people read this stuff, and it’s formulated in a way that there’s a lot of things you can agree about, what they’re saying.
Jackie: There are. Yes, Alan.
Alan: You just simply don’t, you miss the fact though that there’s little twists in it. And before you know it, they’ve got you where they want you. Your mind has followed their story, into their conclusion. And that’s how simple it works.
Jackie: And even if it isn’t their plan, that they’re talking about it, like it’s benevolent, and it could be, but it isn’t.
Alan: It’s not, no. They will never ever give the…
Jackie: Oh, thank you, oh man. You have just, you know what, that, that’s the razor’s edge, Alan.
Alan: It is. And also, don’t forget….
Jackie: Wait a minute. We’re out of time. Well, I’m not going to say that. We’re out of our hour. Will you come back tomorrow night?
Alan: Sure, I will.
Jackie: I want to pick this up right here. Okay, oh, thanks. Folks, we’ll be back with you tomorrow night with Alan Watt, and thanks for being here. I’m glad you are. And God Bless you folks
Jackie: Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday. It is the last day of our broadcast week. It is the 10th of August, in the year 2005. And Alan is with us, Alan Watt is with us again this evening folks. And if you were not listening last night, there is a possibility that Alan is not going to be able to continue his work, unless there’s some help coming forth, and maybe Alan, we could mention it just briefly for our listeners who weren’t tuned in last night. But I, folks, I think it behooves all of us, to extremely appreciate and listen, and to what has been offered, what has been presented. Alan Watt, I said this a long, long time ago, he brought us out of the Dark Ages, and into the beginning, coming into the light, if you would, of the truth. And I would really regret if we wouldn’t be able to have him on, or if you, those of you, many of you I know, who’ve had conversations with Alan wouldn’t be able to get a hold of him.
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Jackie: Well, what I wanted to talk, remember last night, when I said there was a subject I’d like us to address, you to address. What I, and I know that we touched on it. (Phone rings) Yes.
Caller: Hello, Jackie. Yeah, this is Jim again. You’re on.
Jackie: Thanks very much, Jim. Bye. Alright, we’re on the air now, for our shortwave listeners. Folks, I’m sorry for that mix-up. No, I’m sure WWCR is sorry, because it wasn’t us. But Alan, what I would like you to address tonight is the Israel identity, Christian identity. And I know that you’ve said, well, it’s all part of the thing, and all that. But there are a lot of people I don’t think who understand what that entails, where did it come from, and all of that. Would you be willing to kind of expand on that?
Alan: I don’t really like talking about it. I’ll tell you why.
Jackie: Why?
Alan: We’ve done it before.
Jackie: But not to any length.
Alan: And also, it’s like going back to kindergarten. And if people can’t understand the basics of what’s happening in their lives at this precise moment, they don’t stand much of a chance of what’s rushing down upon them. It’s almost like trying to start right back at scratch, square one, to bring them up to date, and there’s no time. All we need to know is that Christian identity has royal approval. It’s chartered by the British royalty. It’s part of the British Empire movement to convince the public that Britain, or London, put it this way. See, we get confused with terms of nations. These aren’t nations. These are capital cities with elites living in them. And so, London, really, about 200 families in London run the British Empire. And, of course, they use every psychological means to do so. And there’s nothing better than appealing to people’s ego, telling them they’re superior or special, and using religion to back it up. That’s an ancient technique that’s been used for thousands and thousands of years in all empires, and all the British Israel movement is another one towards that global agenda. And the idiots that follow it I have no time for, to be honest with you. I think they’re petty little elitists. Even the poor ones. There’s nothing worse than looking at someone who’s poor, but believing they’re superior because God told them so. And looking down their noses at other people. It’s a snobbish thing. It has snob appeal. And it also, as I say, furthers the whole movement of globalism, which will not end up with a utopia for the people. It’s going to be hell for the people, but a utopia for a small group of elitists who’ve used them all. And it’s chartered, as I say, all of these movements that are interlinked, even, I might even say the latter one, who was just on the show, in your time space. It’s all part of the same thing, whether they try to deny it or not. They’re all part of the same grouping, of elitists, you know. And that God has made them superior, and it’s their right to rule the world, us against you. But it has royal charter approval, and that tells you all you really need to know.
Jackie: You’re saying that British Israelism has royal charter approval.
Alan: It’s registered, it’s chartered by the British royalty, like the banks are chartered in Britain by the royalty.
Jackie: And this is where the whole Israel or Christian Identity movement came from?
Alan: Yeah. I mean, it started off with a nutcase, back in the 1800s, who was eventually locked up by the royalty as being insane, because, well, he thought, since we’re all the children of Israel, then I’ve traced my lineage back to David, so I’ve got more right to sit on that throne than you do. So, Queen Victoria had him locked up in an insane asylum, but then her advisors thought, “you know, this is a good idea. If we can con the people of the Commonwealth to believe that they are the real people of Israel, then they’ll go forward with our agenda for globalism, and say that it’s God’s work.” And that’s been used ever since. And of course, they use racism, they use everything to justify it. And they have the white Anglo-Saxons at the top, and Germanics. And then they have a category, a sliding category, right down to the dark-skinned people. And you’re graded like eggs, you know. Grade A, B, C or D. And if you’re a D or C, then tough luck, because you’re not supposed to hang around in the near future. So, this is the whole nonsense with this movement. It’s a snobbish, elitist-run, political agenda, using religion for the idiots that actually follow it. But then, followers are always pretty well idiots, and they’re always used. And it’s going to simply end up with globalism. And at the end, they better pray to their deity for help, being so special, because I don’t think they’re going to get much, when it all comes down, unless they belong to the inner circles of the elite, which very few of them do.
Jackie: I guess I always have that hope in my heart, that there will be people that will hear and suddenly see, you know, the idiocy of it, because it is idiocy. It’s beyond my comprehension. And I just always think, maybe there’s somebody out there or some out there who suddenly will get it, Alan.
Alan: Well, I’ll tell you, as I say, we’re all going round in this big whirlpool right now. And there are thousands of organizations and religions all fighting each other, all fighting petty differences, each one given to the people, each one of those religions given to the people, like tailor-made suits, and they bought them. And they’re all fighting each other, as they go round and round and round in this whirlpool, and they can’t even see, as they fight each other, the big drain hole at the bottom that they’re all getting sucked into. And that’s all intentional. When you create chaos, or an age of chaos, you use every group that you have created to fight each other and keep the confusion going. And that’s where they all are right now. They’re going down that big sink hole, because every day there are laws added upon laws, and Joe Public is too busy with his petty little hobby or his favorite topic, which is generally himself or his religion, to see what’s really happening. And to deprogram people who’ve chosen this is too strenuous a task, and there’s no time left. It took centuries and centuries to build up this technique of deprogramming people, and right now, we’re at a stage where we don’t have the time to go after individuals and do it for them. We’re running out of time, very fast. You know, I was watching traffic today, as tourists were just going north, and I thought, you know, not one single one of these vehicles will have an occupant who’s even aware, or is even thinking that this lifestyle will end eventually. They truly believe that this is going to go on forever.
Jackie: And they’re going to be able to afford the gas to take their trips.
Alan: Even as they’re scraping to do so now, yeah. That’s right.
Jackie: Yeah, and you said Rumsfeld had made the statement, maybe we didn’t hear it here. I’ve not seen it or heard it, but that, here in the States, that they’re going to be actually doubling the present cost of gas.
Alan: Yes, and that was the same speech that he said that they might use tactical nuclear weapons on Iran.
Jackie: They’re real crazies, aren’t they?
Alan: No, they’re not crazy. They planned this a long, long, probably before I was born.
Jackie: You don’t think that’s crazy, Alan?
Alan: Yeah, it’s crazy with an intellect. So, sure. They know what they’re doing, because they plan it so far ahead. And I have no doubt something will happen this October, because that’s when Mars will be the closest it’s been for thousands of years.
Jackie: Oh, the warring planet.
Alan: And of course, the Red October was the revolution for Bolshevism. And red is their color, by the way. That’s why the British army had the red headband round the officers’ hats. Wherever you see the color red, that’s their color.
Jackie: They had red coats too, didn’t they?
Alan: Yeah, but nowadays they still have the red band around their hats. And so, by the way, do the Chinese officers, you’ll notice. Because the capitalists in London created the communists. That’s why. That’s why you had Red Square. Gene Roddenberry is the red berry, you know, of the Star Trek episodes.
Jackie: Roddenberry. Rodden, Red.
Alan: Their color is red, and it’s been red for thousands of years. The mystery religion. That’s their color. And they run all religions. That’s why the symbols, all of the symbols that the British Israel Movement used were all taken from the mystery religion. And the idiots that follow it, don’t even know that. Even their logo, which is the Templar type cross, which means the sun, the S-U-N, is superimposed over the Saint Andrew’s cross, which is the X, and of course, that’s the illumined man. That’s the symbol of the illumined man. They don’t even know that. They’re very ignorant people. They only know what they’ve been told. And it doesn’t occur to them to investigate it themselves.
Jackie: Oh, you know what. Some of these people have, of course somebody probably taught them, but I read a thing the other day. In fact, I put it in a file, because it was amazing how this individual went through the “scriptures” and of course, they never talk about some of those statements that don’t make any sense at all, that the special and chosen people are going to loan to nations and borrow from none.
Alan: Well, the main thing that the British Israel are always quoting is that the promise given to Abraham and so on was that his seed would be as, you know, the stars of the sky, and the sands and so on. And of course, they say, “well, it can’t be the Jews, because there’s not enough of them, so therefore the British Empire was the biggest one in the world. So, it must be us.” That’s the con game that they go with. That’s what they play by.
Jackie: Oh, they go through a lot more than that.
Alan: But that’s what they play at. That’s how they keep trying to justify this pathetic movement. And by the way, the British Israel movement is the World Federalists Association. It’s one in the same thing. They’re both chartered under the two names. It’s the same organization. They used to call themselves the world parliamentarians. And now it’s the World Federalist Association. And they get massive funding from all the foundations and Rockefellers and so on, to make everybody, all these gofers, work towards globalism. And these gofers think it’s going to be a Utopia for them because they’re God’s chosen people, all these British people, extract, or Germanic and all this stuff, and they’re all slated for extinction, once their job is over. That’s the traditional way of things. Those that run this system are cost effective. They don’t believe in useless eaters. So, once the job is over, there will be no North America, as you know it, or Britain. Britain has already changed so much so that you wouldn’t know what country it was. You might think it was from India.
Jackie: In other words, and we were talking about that earlier, or in another conversation, that for the time being, although Canada and the US and Mexico have been merged, they’re still playing the game with passports and stuff like that at the borders.
Alan: Yes, but you see, the idea of that is to bring in the universal identity card. They’re already advertising on radio and television that you can get a quick pass, a quick pass, a pre-screened pass through your border with this new ID card that you apply for.
Jackie: Oh, my, you’re kidding.
Alan; No.
Jackie: And it’s the same one that England is putting out now.
Alan: Same company that manufacturers them. It’s the same card.
Jackie: And it’s the same card that will be the Real ID.
Alan: And your bank card.
Jackie: They call it here in the US; and do they have a name? Are they using it in Canada now too?
Alan: They’re going to start issuing it with the next licenses I think, this coming year. So, as you get your license renewed, your driving license, you’ll get the card instead. But you’ll have to go in and get fingerprinted and eye-scanned.
Jackie: Well, I’ll tell you what. I read the bill myself, and what they have done is they said, they laid it out, you know, what requirements are going to be, the identification requirements in order to get this ID card. But it also says that the Secretary of Homeland Security can add any other requirements that he feels are necessary.
Alan: Yeah. It’s wide open.
Jackie: So, it’s a Czar. It’s a Totalitarian. Yeah, and I wanted our listeners to think about this. I know that I did say it earlier when we talked about this, Alan. But it isn’t just, you know one of the things that it said in the bill, is that the States are not mandated, you know, to implement it. However, any state that doesn’t, nobody in that state will be able to board a commercial airliner.
Alan: That’s right. The same in Canada, that was announced.
Jackie: That’s right. Well that’s because the federal government has control over the air transportation.
Alan: The powers of the air.
Jackie: But what I want, with the first thing that came to my mind are the federal highways, because the States have been very, very busy turning their highways over to the federal government. And I talked to a rep in Illinois about this, and he said, well, it’s because that way, they have to maintain them. And I said, yeah, but they take all the taxes out of the states to “maintain them”. And he admitted that they use the road taxes to blackmail the states into passing particular bills. But the point is, there are federal highways. The main thoroughfares where people do their traveling are federal highways today. And if you don’t, and this, they call the Real ID, Federal Identification. And it has to meet federal specs. And, so therefore, my thought is, if you’re on one of those federal highways when this thing has been fully implemented, and you don’t have a Real ID, you’re gone.
Alan: Yeah, or if your vehicle is not up to what they call federal standards, which are international standards.
Jackie: It will no longer be the state that makes those, well, they don’t much anyway, they’re all, but, I mean, at least at the present time, it’s, how do you call it, if a state decided, like Alabama. It’s been some time, but when the EPA mandated the MTBE to go in the gas, Alabama state legislature just passed a bill and said, no, we’re not going to do it, and they didn’t. But see, the other states go along. Same thing in Arizona, when they said that ozone is no longer usable. And for our listeners who may not know this, Dupont was the company that produced ozone, and about three years before their 25-year patent ran out, that’s when they began to talk about global warming, folks. And the hole in the ozone layer. And that we’ve got to quit using this Freon, because Freon was doing it. Well, it was Dupont that patented the new coolant, which, there’s reports on it, Alan, that it just tears heck out of the equipment. And it’s nowhere near as effective.
Alan: It is effective. It’s so much effective that it keeps breaking down. And they’re guaranteed after-sales parts. That’s where the big profits are.
Jackie: Yeah, exactly. And much more expensive. But, Arizona, and I’ve got the bill, actual bill, the state of Arizona, or Arizona state passed a law and said that we find that there is no harm from ozone from all of the, there is no hole in the ozone layer, etc, etc. And so, in Arizona, we will manufacture and we will sell and we will use ozone. Now, I don’t know if they’ve retracted it since then, but it was a bill, and I actually saw the bill signed. I mean, I got an actual photocopy of the original bill. So, what I’m saying, long story short, is that there were certain states that did certain things at certain times, and they got away with it, because they could. But, with this real ID thing, they really got slick with it, didn’t they?
Alan: Well, all must become one.
Jackie: They didn’t have to, the states aren’t mandated to use it. They don’t have to. We can’t mandate to the states.
Alan: Yeah, so all they do is the big companies say that it’s impossible to make a special different gasoline for you, so, if we do, it’s going to cost you twice as much, and they cave in and they go along with it. You can’t fight, you can’t fight the corporations. This is the system. It’s like Carroll Quigley said. The corporations will be the new feudal overlords, and that’s what they are, you know. They’re dictating our public policies to the people. And they’re doing it via governments, which they already own, and in fact, most of the politicians have worked for these corporations, and then, when they leave politics, they go back into those corporations. So, yeah, this is the ping-pong. They used to call it fascism at one time, but that’s gone out of vogue. But it’s the same thing, you know. They dictate their policies to us, yeah.
Jackie: Well, like Rumsfeld was on the board of the Searle company that manufactured Aspartame.
Alan: That’s right. That was me that first came out with that.
Jackie: Well, they tried forever to get it through, and they knew it just wasn’t passing, it wasn’t being approved, because how dangerous, and it’s a killer.
Alan: And he’s a director on the board of Searle. And he’s the guy also, Searle is just a part of the company of Monsanto. And they are the ones, a company which is a drug manufacturer which specializes in psychotropic drugs for psychiatric illness, is hand-in-glove with your main food producer, that should ring alarms in everybody. It really should. And if it doesn’t, well, I’m sorry for those people.
Jackie: Monsanto. Searle?
Alan: Searle is part of Monsanto.
Jackie: Okay. And folks, in case you wanted to do some research…
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Jackie: Alright, we’re back with you folks, with Alan Watt. The volume was turned down a little bit, and I did not hear the warning, so we were talking into the commercial. And what I was saying, in case any of you want to do some research on this, Alan had told me about the company Searle, and I read it, and saw it, regarding aspartame, and wasn’t pronouncing correctly, so I wasn’t connecting the dots. But that company is spelled Searle. And as Alan just told us, it is part of the Monsanto Company. And Searle is a pharmaceutical, Alan. Well, how did a pharmaceutical produce aspartame?
Alan: Well, aspartame is a chemical. And they’re all offshoots of the chemical industry, the pharmaceutical industry, in fact, the whole pharmaceutical industry is an offshoot of the chemical companies. So, sure, what they can’t use as drugs they’ll call something else and try and sell it for any other purpose, as they do with the aluminum oxide that they put in as fluoride, you know. That was aluminum waste. So they found a purpose for it through ALCAN, the Bronfmans in Canada, when they owned it. And that started the ball rolling for nice strong healthy teeth, you know. So, sure, aspartame was basically some byproduct of some experiments within Searle company. And, as I say, this company specializes in pharmaceutical drugs which deal with psychiatric problems. And aspartame is a very good, in fact, it’s very similar to cocaine in a sense. It makes the people hyper. And it can also cause seizures in a lot of people. So, once they come off this, you’ll find that the hyperness goes away and so do the seizures. It’s a very potent drug.
Jackie: Oh, it causes cancer tumors, brain tumors, and all kinds of things. It’s totally destructive.
Alan: But Rumsfeld, he’s always been a main salesman for the big chemical companies. In fact, the CBC television after 9/11 showed when the US was selling the various chemical weaponry to Iraq, back in the 70s, it was Mr. Rumsfeld they showed you shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. He was over there to sell them all these weapons. And when he’s not selling lethal weapons openly, he’s flogging other weaponry through your food or your drink. This is what you have at the top of your government. We have tyrants at the moment.
Jackie: What is your prime minister’s name?
Alan: Oh, at the moment, it’s Mr. Martin.
Jackie: I knew, I remembered the Paul. I couldn’t remember his last name.
Alan: And his father owned the main Canadian, they still call it the steamship company, that does international cargo trading. So they made their money off governmental projects where the taxpayers paid for cargoes of grain or food or whatever to other countries. All the boys at the top are interlinked through the same very, very high Masonic organizations, way above, way above your 33 degrees.
Jackie: You know, Alan, I know, because we could just keep repeating and repeating and repeating, and it’s coming to the point where people hear it, and if they don’t do their own research, if they don’t believe it, and they don’t do their own research so they can see that it’s so, then it is too late. And this is way off topic, and maybe it isn’t. I was talking to Amber today, and she was telling me that she made character council. This is a twelve-year-old girl, okay. I said, well, what is character council? Well, we teach character. I said, are you telling me that they have twelve-year-old children teaching character? I said, at twelve years old you’re building your character. Don’t you think that’s a pretty big responsibility, honey? That you’re going to be teaching other people character and what does it mean? And then she said, well, we just get together and we plan dances and stuff. And I said, well, like student council? Yeah, it used to be student council, and now it’s character council. So, I looked it up on the internet. It’s a damn international not-for-profit organization. International, and they named all the states that are character states. They named the cities within the states, the counties within the states, and they named the countries that are, that are….
Alan: Promoting it.
Jackie: Promoting it, Alan. Now, folks, let me say this. If you have children in school, by hook or by crook, any way that you can, if you, it sounds stupid to say if you love your child, but isn’t that part of what loving is, or the main thing when a child is a child, Alan, is protecting those children?
Alan: It’s supposed to be, yeah.
Jackie: And they have to be taken out of the schools, because, you’ll lose them, unless it doesn’t matter to you. You will lose them. They will lose their minds, because their minds are being stolen. And I just wanted to say this about that.
Alan: Well, see, you’re not going to stop this, because this all part of a….
Jackie: I didn’t say stopping it. I’m talking about people who are listening to this broadcast right now, Alan.
Alan: Yeah, but what I’m trying to say, Jackie, is that people have been saying the same thing for a hundred years. Because when Bertrand Russell brought his first book out on this very subject, he was part of the experimenters for these schools. And he brought it out in 1905. Of course, the media went into action. There were still some people who had a voice in those days, and they said the same thing, that this was an attempt, it was more than an attempt, it was a plan. And Bertrand Russell said it, he said, if we can get the children for even four hours a day, he said, away from their parents in kindergarten, he said, we can indoctrinate them with the new values for the world. And he said the parental input will be of no effect, because we are using scientific, socialistic, indoctrination techniques. So this was known for a hundred years. And people have been bashing at this for a hundred years. And then, at the same time, you know yourself that most people are so dependent on this only system that they’ve been given – there’s no alternative to it – that they either can’t afford private schooling, or they’re run off their feet trying just to pay their home and their car and all the rest of it. So they’re trapped within the system. And the law says you must send your child to school, one way or another.
Jackie: No, the law does not say that.
Alan: Well, teach them, regardless. But the fact is, you know that they’ve made it almost impossible for the average person to teach themselves, teach the children themselves. So, you’re up against a monster that goes over the future like generals over a battle plan. And they look at all the possible conflicts, the repercussions, and they literally plug every hole. And that’s where we are with this.
Jackie: No child left behind.
Alan: In the Communist system, in the Soviet system, the whole Soviet Bolshevik system was planned at least a hundred years before they took over, because they knew exactly how to set up the system they had in mind. There was no debating about it. They went into action immediately. And they had children in the Young Communist movement doing exactly the same thing, and that was going around the schools and so on, twelve year olds, ones who were specially hand-picked, and it was just political correctness. It was the new agenda of the day. And they were basically parroting what they’d been told. They had little gold stars or red stars for saying the right things, and of course, that was being promoted. You can call it whatever you want, it’s the same program. It’s the same program, under a thousand names. So, you’re under attack from a thousand directions right now. And your eyes cannot be everywhere at once. And that’s what I’m saying. That’s where we are right now, in the whirlpool. And you can’t even keep up with what’s happening.
Jackie: I know.
Alan: So, the international system has been established, you know. It’s actually been here for a long time. And they simply kept the borders there and the pretense of nations, so they could keep taxing you. That’s basically it. And the US is simply finishing off the last vestige of a different type of system in the Middle East. And once that’s done, well the British Israel and the Identity movements and all the other gofers will have no jobs to do. They’ll be equal down to the peasant of China. That’s where they’ll be.
Jackie: Oh, the peasants of China are doing well today.
Alan: Yeah, because now the new catchphrase they’re using on the media is that gee, we must compete with China. Well, that’s a race to the bottom. And that’s what’s being promoted right now. And anybody with any part of gray matter left in their brains that still has a spark in it, must know that if we try and compete with labor in China, our standard of living is obviously going to plummet. And that’s exactly what is planned. That’s exactly what is planned.
Jackie: China, I read about a magnificent, whatever we would call it, where the elite go to vacation now. And when I read that, it gave me chills, because you can see how China is being promoted to be, what? I just guess the destroyer?
Alan: Well, they have to, according to the 1937 minutes of the meetings they held in Melbourne, Australia, for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the CFR, and I have their books. They said, in 1937, China would be the sole manufacturer of all goods for the planet. And when they said that, China was a third world nation. That’s how far back they had this planned for China. They even talked about the coming war with Germany, and that they must save the Soviet system by all costs. They didn’t explain why. Escott Reid from Toronto, who helped draw up the charter for the UN with Alger Hiss, the Communist, so this Canadian, Escott Reid, put his own memoirs out. And I have the book from 1937, where his kin even said, we are here to discuss a global system, a World Government. This was all discussed in 1937, in Melbourne, Australia. And I have a list of all the politicians from America, from the US, from Canada, from all over the world who attended it, because their names are all in the back of the book. We are simply living through a script written long, long ago. And in that same book, in the 1937 one, they even had the immigration quotas from China, right up until the year 2000 and just after, that they would need to be the middlemen for the trade goods, for smoothing out the trade difficulties between China and North America. They had the quotas of immigrants they would need, for the West Coast of Canada, like Vancouver. So, that’s how detailed they make their plans. And when you find this stuff, and you go through, and you check up what they’ve done, they tally exactly. They know exactly where. The world is just one big business program. That’s all it is. It’s a business agenda, and we are the business. The business means buzz. We are the bees, you know. And of course, that’s what we’re here for.
Jackie: We are the economic units.
Alan: Yeah. We’re living a script, a business plan, and we’re going through it. And, as we go through the Age of Chaos, which they said they’d bring on, there’s no better way than to bring all of this, this whole brand new way of living that will emerge out of the other side. That’s what they keep telling us. A completely different way of living, as they bring us into the vortex, and to bring us through it, or the ones who will come through it, they have everybody fighting everybody else on petty nonsense from a previous age. This has been done before. And they’re doing exactly the same thing again. The intellects way above the politicians are way beyond people that you’ve met in your daily life. These are real intellects here. We can’t dismiss that. These are not politicians above the ones that we generally see. These are the rulers. And these people have minds almost like computers. And they have no compassion, whatsoever. And I mean no compassion on an individual or even a national or even a global scale. They will do whatever it takes, as they keep telling us, the end justifies the means. In other words, if they need part of this agenda rushed through, they’ll do whatever it takes to make it so. And the Twin Towers was nothing to them. These are the same characters that brought on Pearl Harbor and World War II.
Jackie: And sunk the Maine.
Alan: Yeah. And meanwhile, everybody is fighting everybody else over religion, or the race issue, and all the other stuff that they know so well. They’re old tunes they can keep playing over and over. And everyone has been programmed to dance to these tunes when it plays, and they do. And they can’t see beyond it all. And this is the time now when you must see beyond it all, if there’s going to be any survival for anybody at all. Because we’re going through it.
Jackie: What about people, well, look at even with yourself, Alan, as you were talking about last night. You’re not sure you’re even going to be able to survive the winter.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And there are people, so you’re not in the city. But, of course, they’re making it nearly impossible for people to live in the country, because of the increase in gas.
Alan: And taxes.
Jackie: To get you to the store. The property taxes are increasing.
Alan: Environmental laws.
Jackie: Well, yes. And it goes on and on. And then we have people who are in the cities and do not have the means to leave the cities, as much as they would desire and want to do it. So, you know, it comes back down to making the time, to be like parents with their families, Alan. With their families. They have to work. They have to work to be able to pay the bills. But, instead, maybe, of parents sloughing the children off to a babysitter, so they can go. Maybe the most important thing that people can do today is to be together, and really, just cherish the time, every precious moment, and give to your children, not $80 tennis shoes and trips to Six Flags and Disney World, because that isn’t really what children want anyway, Alan.
Alan: No, that’s what the system wants.
Jackie: That isn’t what they want at all. They want their parents to look at them and see them. They want their parents to hear them when they talk. Not just listen, but really hear them.
Alan: Well, what they need is direction. And children who don’t get direction from their parents will take it as they did in the Communist system, in the Young Communist movement. They’ll take it from the leaders. The Hitler Youth were the same, because children need direction. And if they can’t get it from their parents, the state or the system will give it to them instead. That’s traditional. That’s been used for thousands of years. Again, it’s another tune, and they know how to play it, and we know how to dance.
Jackie: Well, you mentioned Bertrand Russell. And I’ve done this before, but I’ll do it again. The statement that he made, he was a, maybe still is, I don’t know, but at this time a UNESCO advisor. He said, “it may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything, if he can catch the patient young, and is provided by the state with money and equipment.”
Alan: Well, the two main books, and anybody who wants them and can read it all today, apart from a glowing tube in front of their face, they can order them. And it’s Roads to Freedom, is the one book, that gives you the global agenda with adults and children, and Education and the Good Life, is the one about the whole education program that they have used right up until the present time. And that’s got it all in there. All of it.
Jackie: Well, there’s one more sentence here that I want to do, for our listeners. He said, when the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in control of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.
Alan: Yeah, once you all have a brain chip, there’s no problem. I mean, that’s what the function of all this is.
Jackie: Roads to Freedom and Education and the Good Life.
Alan: Yeah, the whole scientific technique. He put out another book, it was on science, basically, and he laid the whole thing down, to do with scientific techniques, including the same stuff as Aldous Huxley was on about, the brain chip and so on, and how they could use all this to control everybody. And once that happened, the people had no individuality in them, then they’d have their utopia. But they, the elite themselves, would not change themselves. That’s what they said, because they must retain their survival capabilities, but the public won’t need them anymore, since the state will be making all their decisions for them.
Jackie: What do you say to a person who calls you and says, I’m not sure what to do, I’m beginning to see the light and it’s very frightening. What do you say to them, Alan?
Alan: It depends who they are.
Jackie: Well, okay. What would you say to me?
Alan: Again, it’s not something you sum up in a couple of minutes. You go through the whole person. You’ve got to get the persona and the person. You’ve got to break down all the different parts of that person, and then give a response that’s suitable to that individual person. You can’t give the same talk to every individual. You must tailor-make truth to jump over the hurdles that that person has in their particular individual mind. And everyone has a different response to things, and they have different hurdles or walls in their mind, so you must literally tailor-make it for the individual, so that they can jump those walls themselves. And it must be done by themselves. You can show them how, but it must be done by them. That’s why it takes a lot of work for every single one. But I should mention the three books before we go off the air. They’re called Cutting Through 1, 2, & 3. And I go through the ancient Freemasonry system, prior to the guild movements of the Middle Ages, and right up to the present day. I give you a lot of the Masonic coding that’s used. It’s all through your language; in fact they created your language for you. And the third one goes through the history of this, as well as the history of the money system which they brought in thousands of years ago, and how they used it to implement their system, which they call civilization. That’s what they mean by it. It’s their system. And how they control nations one by one, through takeovers, financial or through using warfare. [See ordering information on transcript.] But that’s what I’m saying. You can’t just give a pat answer for a mass of people, because everyone has their own particular walls and variations of them, in their mind. And you have to literally go through dozens of them with each one. And you must be able to see into that person, in order to do so. And that takes a lot of work.
Jackie: And you’ve done that with people?
Alan: Yes, and as I say, it’s a lot of work. And it can take years sometimes, on a one to one basis with many, many different people, but individually, one on one, to get them right up and out of it.
Jackie: And then what happens when they get out of it, Alan?
Alan: Then it’s a whole new journey from there on. And again, you don’t hand that truth to everybody either. You just don’t hand out truth. Most people can’t handle the truth. Some things are very, very, very precious. And most people are so stuck in what they want themselves that they can’t handle the truth. And that’s what they mean, they trample it underfoot, because they don’t see it for what it is. So you don’t hand it to them until they’re ready for it.
Jackie: Well, we’ve sure been doing enough of it.
Alan: We’ve done an awful lot. More so, I’d say, than any other program. And we certainly don’t do it as a business. That’s for sure.
Jackie: That’s for sure. And folks, we’re out of our week.
Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Tonight is Monday, and it is the 15th of August, in the year 2005. And I’m glad that you’re with us tonight. I hope you had a lovely weekend, ladies and gentlemen. Actually, it’s more than a weekend now, isn’t it? You get, I get, we get, from Thursday until Monday, or we have until from Thursday until Monday. So, three nights a week, and it is a possibility that we’re going to be cutting back to two nights a week. I don’t know if, I don’t know if it is for the broadcast.
[Technical difficulties at radio station]
I’ll tell you what. For our internet listeners, if you would just begin, and I can take another phone line, and call WWCR and see what’s up.
Alan: Oh, okay.
Jackie: Okay, thank you. This is Alan Watt, folks.
Alan: Yep, once again, we’ve got a mix up at the shortwave station, where they’re playing another broadcaster’s tape. We don’t know why, maybe it’s God intervening, who knows, because that’s what he goes on about is Old Jehovah and how the British are really the Jews, you see. But what I should say, to start off today, is that I have three books for sale, because I’m filling in for Jackie, while she straightens out the short wave station. And these books go through Freemasonry, from ancient times, not just from the usual guilds they talk about in the Middle Ages, because the secret brotherhoods have been here as long as money has been here, in all of its different forms. And I also go through how the money boys took over even the ancient world, and how they created nations, and had wars going on between them, while they profited from loaning to all the countries, which they’d helped to create, and they sold them all the weaponry, too. No different from today. And how they benefited from keeping the people in debt, which ensured that they kept running the system. No different at all from today. [See ordering information on transcript.] And I’ll get them out to you as soon as I can.
Now, I don’t know what’s happening with the short wave station, but that’s the second time that Pastor Pete, with his British Israel, has been on, when we should be on. And I think, yeah, he’s still on the shortwave. So I guess there’s a debate going on whether they should flick the switch or not, but we’ll find out pretty soon.
Jackie: Nicholas, if you’re available, would you please come on the line. I had a call from one of our listeners. I gave her four numbers that I have, to call, to possibly get a hold of somebody at WWCR. But if Nicholas, if you’re listening, if you would please come on the line with us, if you would please get a hold of them, and let them know that they’re doing it again. Alan, my, my. Well, we do have internet listeners right now, so we’re not going to act like we’re not on the air at all. But this appears to me to be intentional.
Alan: Well, Pastor Peters last week boasted that he now has 400 hours with WWCR, so I guess the muscle has been put into motion.
Jackie: The muscle has been put into motion. I just want you to know that I don’t know how it is for our listeners, but your volume is down so low I can barely hear you. I can hear you, but I can barely hear you.
Alan: Yeah, you’re down. You’re down too.
Jackie: Am I? Okay. Nicholas, WFAR, Nicholas, if you’re there, will you please come on the line here and let me know if you can get a hold of WWCR. One of our listeners called in, as I told you, and she’s trying the numbers that I would have been trying, Alan.
[Technical difficulties at radio station]
Jackie: Well, there we are folks. Well, now we just talked to an engineer at WWCR, and what he’s saying is, is that the satellite feed that they’re getting is really great. So I’m hoping that you can hear us tonight, ladies and gentlemen. What I’m going to do, and I will do this tomorrow night, is have a number for you to call. If you’re listening on shortwave, and the program before you is good, and the one after you is good, and this one is not, it would be time for you to call WWCR and see if you can find out what the problem is, because what we’ve discovered is that sometimes people go, if you have a shortwave radio that can go from 5.070 up to 072, 073, 074, sometimes, they catch it clearly almost at 5.075 or below. But if you’re not getting it in good, then tune it down or tune it up, so that you can hear it. Because, what’s happening folks, according to the letters that I get from our listeners, you can hear us. And I understand, if you can’t hear the broadcast. Those of you who have hung in here, through thick and thin, you’re to be so deeply commended, that you’re still here, because it’s a wonder, it’s a miracle that we haven’t lost all of our listeners. Alan, Alan Watt is with us tonight. And Melody said that your volume is very low.
Alan: So is yours. When you’re on the phone here with me, I can hardly hear you at all.
Jackie: Yeah, well, evidently, the volume was low coming into WWCR, and I don’t know how it is. If Eleanor is listening, Eleanor White. Eleanor is a, she monitors for us, and lets us know, because sometimes when your volume is low to me, in my headset, Eleanor calls in, and says, don’t worry about it, Alan is coming in loud and clear. But Melody said tonight, from WFAR that your volume was low. (Phone rings) Oh, here we go. Hi, you’re on the air. Thanks for calling.
Caller: Hey, I can hear you, and Alan sounds real good.
Jackie: Oh, thanks, Mel.
Caller: Okay, alright.
Jackie: Okay, bye, honey.
Alan: Now, we can’t hear each other.
Jackie: Yeah, we can’t hear each other, but they can hear us.
Alan: But I know on the shortwave, there’s over-modulation there, because your voice is muffled on the shortwave.
Jackie: Right now? My voice is muffled?
Alan: Yeah, it’s not as clear as it should be. In fact, I tuned up to 5074, and it was clearer there.
Jackie: At 5074. Well, then, we would ask Jason, I guess, who is our engineer tonight, to please make a check, Jason, and if we’re over-modulating here, do what needs to be done. Because I’m not over-modulating, Alan. If they’re getting it crisp and clear from the satellite, which is where we’re broadcasting from, if the shortwave is over-modulated, once again, it’s coming from WWCR.
Alan: Well, that’s that old Wicker Man up to his tricks.
[Technical difficulties at radio station]
Alan: I can hear you now, you’re clear on my phone.
Jackie: Okay, well, that’s good. Thank you, whoever is responsible.
Alan: That’s because I said we should join the British Israel Movement.
Jackie: The British Israel Movement. That would probably be our…
Alan: Then God’s on our side, you see.
Jackie: That would, oh, then God’s on our side. Yahweh is on our side.
Alan: The big boss.
Jackie: You know what, okay, what I was going to say, when we came on the air tonight, is that it has become more than that you’re a guest on this broadcast. It’s as though you’ve become a co-host here, Alan. And, folks, the reason, well, it’s not that I have to give a reason, but I ask Alan to come on. We get into conversations. And for those of you, and I know there are many of you who so appreciate the information that we have received from Alan and the broadcasts that Alan and I have done together, because my questions, evidently, are important to you, which is what I get from my correspondence from you, that our interchange has been very much of an opening for many of you. And so, therefore, Alan is with us again, tonight. And I appreciate it very much. And Alan, thank you for being here.
Alan: It’s a pleasure, when we can be heard.
Jackie: When we can be heard. When I can hear you.
Alan: Maybe it’s a gimmick to make people listen more intently.
Jackie: Well, I’ll tell you what. I want to say again what I said at the beginning of the broadcast. Well, you see, our sponsorship has dropped off. However, I know that our listenership has dropped off. Because, even the people who send donations for sponsoring the broadcast tell me the frustration that they experience. I was talking to a gentleman from Michigan, recently. He said he was outside working, I think working on his boat or something. He had the broadcast on prior to Sweet Liberty. He said it was crystal clear. And then, Sweet Liberty came on, and there was very little of it that he could pick up, and right after Sweet Liberty it cleared up again. And the best suggestion that I had for him, was to call WWCR, because, I’ve tried. And I get angry response from management. I’ve had the phone hung up on my ear. In fact, one time the phone was hung up, I called back, because I thought it was rude, so rude. Sometimes I just ignore it, but I wanted to speak with him, and then I was told that he was taking a walk. And the person that I talked to, I said, I just had the phone hung up on me, and I would like to finish this conversation. And, Alan, what I’m told is this. If you don’t like it, if you think that we are sabotaging the broadcast, go someplace else.
Alan: Well that’s a Christian message.
Jackie: It’s a Christian message, yes.
Alan: Well, sure. I mean, it’s a business. And all media is propaganda, I don’t care who runs it. Because an all-seeing eye did not miss a hole in its net, you know, and it never did. And the CIA started up the shortwave back in the 50s, using Christian radio, and I doubt they’ve ever let it go, especially nowadays, because they need it. They need the confusion, to keep this age of chaos running along, you know. Now, of course, they have their superstars, because the public have been trained to look for superstars, like the general television, your Doctor Phil or Oprah, or whatever, and Albert Pike said we always give the people their leaders, so they must present superstars, who are professional talkers. And of course, they have staff there to help them with their spiel, as they say. And of course, it’s a Wizard of Oz type thing, where, behind the curtain, there’s a little guy making all this noise. But behind the little guy, you’ve got a whole staff of people punching up things on his screens, where he sounds terribly informed.
Jackie: You know what? This is, I think, in fact, I know what I wanted us to discuss tonight, but, because you explained it, you explained it more in depth to me, because when you first mentioned it, I didn’t get what you were saying, but you went through the process. Would you do that, Alan? For example, you know, we don’t have to name names, but, let’s say a broadcaster, when people call in, no matter what they’re talking about, the broadcaster seems to have in-depth information about it, as they know everything about everything.
Alan: Well, it’s history, because in every century, they give you heroes to follow. They always call them geniuses. And they give you ridiculous stories about them, be they composers or scientists or whatever. But they make up these.
Jackie: Alan, can you hold just for one moment. We have a call coming in. Hello?
Caller: Oh, hello. I just wanted to let you know that here in the upper peninsula of Michigan, I listen to you every time you’re on, and it is over-modulated or something, all the time.
Jackie: All the time.
Caller: Maybe one time was very clear.
Jackie: Over-modulated, and it isn’t over-modulated coming in.
Caller: It sounds like you’re talking in a pillowcase.
Jackie: In other words, what, I want our listeners, if they can hear me, to hear this. Because we were told by Jason, the engineer, at WWCR, that the feed that they were getting from the satellite was very crisp and very clear. And so, what our shortwave listeners are getting, from the shortwave station, is over-modulation.
Alan: You’re plus-forty here, that’s the end of the scale.
Caller: And my shortwave is 5070.
Jackie: Okay, thank you so much. Please don’t go away, honey, okay.
Caller: Oh, no. I love your, whatever you’re talking about.
Jackie: Thank you. Who are we talking to?
Caller: Mary Jane in upper Michigan.
Jackie: Do you know that I’m a Michigander? Yes?
Caller: I do.
Jackie: Oh. From Flint, Michigan.
Caller: Oh, that’s way down there. I’m way up.
Jackie: Yes. My summers were spent up at Bear Lake, near Grayling.
Caller: Oh, okay. I’m way over up, Lake Superior, up in the upper peninsula, over Lake Michigan, over the Mackinaw straits.
Jackie: Thanks for listening, honey. Thank you for calling. Bye-bye. Okay, Alan, now. You know, I’m not a, what do you call, technician, but it makes sense to me that if the satellite feed coming from WFAR is crisp and clear, and if the reception that our shortwave listeners are getting is over-modulation, it makes sense that it has to be coming from the shortwave transmitter.
Alan: Well, yeah. Sure. And plus-forty, that’s the end of the scale. It’s right on the right-hand side. You can’t go any further with the signal strength. It’s over-modulated.
Jackie: Oh, you’ve got. You’re monitoring it there? Alright, folks.
Alan: That’s as high as it goes.
Jackie: We’re going to be back. Alan, we’re at the half hour here. We’ll be back right after this. Folks, don’t go away. Alan, maybe they can hear you. If they can’t understand. Why would I be over-modulated and not you?
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alan is with us, Alan Watt, and from what I’m gathering, our listeners, Alan, would you explain once again what you said, why it is that you wouldn’t be over-modulated, but I am? And I want our listeners to know, by the way, that you and I are, what should I say, we’re both on the same phone line. Folks, Alan calls me. And then I conference us in together. So, he’s not calling from another phone. He’s not calling from a separate phone line into the station. And if it is coming in loud and clear from the satellite, it would follow that our shortwave listeners should be getting loud and clear from both Alan and I. And would you explain what you said, how that could happen, Alan?
Alan: Yes. Every studio, whether it’s a radio or a music studio, has graphic equalizers.
Jackie: And you were in the music industry or business.
Alan: Yeah, years ago.
Jackie: So, you know what you’re talking about.
Alan: And when you want to phase out a particular tone, or a pitch, say, or bring it up, even, you can do either, just by adjusting the slides, and you have a whole battery of slides, sometimes 48 of them, and you can literally phase out any instrument or vocal sound, or any singer in a choir, with a different voice. You can phase them in, or phase them out. And of course, male and female being different, it’s much easier to adjust that way.
Jackie: So, let me ask you this. It doesn’t mean that there’s somebody sitting there working at these slides, but if they just get their frequencies or whatever tuned into my voice, they can literally obliterate it.
Alan: Or, once again, boost it to such an extent that it would become muffled. They can boost it. They can actually bring it up, as well, and make it muffled. You know, any sound can be distorted by over-amplification or modulation. So you can do the same thing with a graphic equalizer. You can literally bring any sound up, as well as down, you can bring it up and over-modulate it, until it’s distorted.
Jackie: So, let me ask you this. If I could talk higher or lower, would that foil the?
Alan: No, because you’re still within a certain frequency range, as opposed to me. Mine would be different. I mean, I’ve seen it done with orchestras, where you can bring in a violin, just by sliding the switch, or you can phase it out, or you can bring up, say a trombone, even. So you can, there’s a whole range of spectrum with sound. So they also do that. They use similar equipment for spying on people at long ranges with boom microphones. And they can literally phase out the surrounding nose from cars and automobiles and buses and things.
Jackie: I’ve seen that on movies a long time ago.
Alan: Yeah. This is old technology.
Jackie: We have a caller here. Hi, you’re on the air.
Caller: Hi Jackie. This is Kate. I called WWCR and talked to Jason. And I said, are you trying to sabotage Jackie? And he said, oh, no, we wouldn’t do that. But, as I’ve been listening to you, week after week, you are very muffled. And I think Alan has a point there. And I don’t know what the reason is, other than Alan brought out another good point, that we have superstars on the shortwave, that to me have taken over, and I feel like I have no free speech.
Jackie: And you have no free listening, Kate.
Caller: No, but all of a sudden, we are religious? Is this the main theme of the shortwave, to lead you into the abyss of religious propaganda?
Alan: That’s pretty well it.
Caller: I resent that. There’s too many horrible things out there, that we should have freedom of speech. And I’ve noticed that on other programs, certain people are jammed constantly until the King comes on. So, I don’t know where we go from here.
Jackie: Well, who is the king, honey?
Caller: You don’t know who the king of shortwave is? We’ve got a king and queen.
Jackie: Well, I don’t know who you’re talking about, would you tell me?
Caller: Well, we have Miss Nightingale, right?
Jackie: I don’t know who Miss Nightingale is.
Caller: Florence Nightingale.
Jackie: It’s okay, Kate. Until we’re off the air, we have freedom of speech here, so just say what you’re…
Alan: Well, the listeners do.
Caller: Well, you know, the continuation of Joyce Reilly….Pastor Stair, and Mr. Pete Peters. You see?
Jackie: And they all come in very clear?
Caller: Oh, yes.
Jackie: Alright, thank you.
Caller: If we can’t express what we feel, we the people, and we have to adhere to the kings, and especially Georgina, you know, Bush.
Jackie: Thanks, Kate.
Alan: Well that’s how it is. They know, you see, they’ve trained the public. And let’s be honest. Everybody has been brought up in an artificial system, and yet, we’ve taken it all for granted as being normal, simply because everyone else thinks it’s normal. But there’s nothing normal in it. It’s a designed system, scientifically designed, as Charles Galton Darwin said, in The Next Million Years, he said, we’re just creating a more sophisticated form of slavery. And they’ve trained the public since television was invented, to go for the superstars. You follow your stars, the wandering stars. They’ve used the same expression back in ancient Greece, when they brought in the traveling players that gave them their culture, and changed their culture, with the authority, of course, of the elite. And it hasn’t changed until today. So they bring out these people in every, every generation to lead the people around in circles and take over as the main voice, and say that they’re fighting the New World Order on their own, single handed, in between making movies and going to the gym and being on countless radio stations and television stations every day, I mean, “that’s a super-man, and I want to follow him,” you see, “and I couldn’t do that.”
Jackie: I was looking at a bio of one of the kings that Kate was talking about. He’s been evidently mentioned in the Wall Street Journal. He’s been on CNBC or ABC, it’s what you’re saying, Alan, is when we see these people mentioned on mainstream.
Alan: It makes it more legitimate in our minds.
Jackie: We had better damn know that they’re part of the program.
Alan: Well, of course, absolutely. That’s why they were thrust out in front for the people to follow. And they’ve done this over and over. They always give us the superstars, whether it’s Oprah Winfrey on regular media or Dr. Phil that tells us how to behave, or one on shortwave. It’s the same technique. It’s by the same people at the top. And, as I say, they always give you someone who’s been trained to do exactly what they’re doing, and I should also say, that the purpose of psychological warfare, which is counter-intelligence, by the way. Psychological warfare has an intent, and the intent is to overwhelm the public, or the enemy – and which the public, they are the enemy, you see – with so much negative, terrifying information, in a machine-gun fashion, or a shotgun fashion, they scatter it at you, until you can’t duck out of the way anymore. And when that’s all you see coming at you, all you do eventually is mentally collapse, because, what they’re telling you is, this system is so awesome and powerful, and King Kong is growing three miles a day above you, that there’s nothing you can do about it. And that’s the purpose of psychological warfare.
Jackie: Alan, would you compare that, to what you just said, to what you and I have discussed on the air? Because sometimes…
Alan: I’ll cut to the chase here.
Jackie: Please do, please do.
Alan: Because, what it is, the difference is, that you see, people go into shortwave looking for an alternate view on things, alternate information. And so they tune out the regular media. Now, when you start to get people reading the AP Wires, and what’s on the regular media, and even giving you more than you get on the regular media, they’re doing a better job than the regular media. So, rather than get away from it, they’re actually giving you more of it. It’s a day-by-day blow of what’s been done to you. And that’s its purpose. That is its technique. They read the AP Wires and Reuters stuff, and international stuff. And now, people obviously in the staff are pushing this up on his boards, so he can parrot it off.
Jackie: You know what. You were talking about that, and we had to take our break. But you took me behind the scenes in a conversation that we had. And then I saw it. Would you continue what you were explaining. Explain this to our listeners. In other words, well, what I remembered you saying, is that somebody calls in, and they say, okay, what are you calling about, and the people say what they’re calling about. Or there’s a particular conversation going on, and there are people, a team, that do a search, bring up information, put it on the screen for the broadcaster, and that broadcaster….
Alan: Sounds like a genius. He’s got all facts and figures. He can throw dates, names, times out at you. And of course, the person, the people who are listening say, “my God, I couldn’t keep up with all this. This guy is a genius.” And what we do, you see, if we think someone is a genius, is we put our own discernment to the side and we parrot them, we follow them. That’s how you create a leader, you see, behind the scenes. That’s how you do it. This is an old technique. And it’s being used today.
Jackie: Isn’t Noel, you know, he’s very, because he’s got that different accent, but doesn’t he do kind of the same thing?
Alan: Well, his whole business is selling gold and silver and so on. Now, from Rhodesia, who created Rhodesia? Cecil Rhodes created Rhodesia. And he was sent there by the Rothschilds, to take over the diamonds and the gold and silver of Africa. And who comes out of Rhodesia, amongst all the real, genuine people, who got thrown out of there, were the gold merchants. And here they are flogging the same stuff here, under the pretense that you’ll need this to survive. And I can tell you, if you have to try and trade gold, even today, in a hurry, go and try it, and see how fast you can sell your gold or silver. Because you’ll have a hard time doing it. It’s a con game. And their technique is always to throw all the fear at you, of what’s coming. I noticed too, there’s a doctor going all around the place, all the shortwave stations, giving this spiel about the coming avian flu. And after terrifying the listeners for half an hour, then they come out with the solution. And the solution is, the doctor has all these antidotes and herbs and stuff that you can take for it, so if you send to his company, he’ll send them to you. And they split the loot. That’s how the whole thing works. It’s fear-based techniques selling. You see, every ad is fear based. Every single ad. They couldn’t make a market outside of the shortwave fear-based radio, because the people are all asleep. So, what do you do? You make the market. You go where the market is, and people are terrified on shortwave because of the traditional hype, and they sell all the products they can’t sell anywhere else. That’s how it’s done. It’s like the back pages of magazines, you know, where they sell all this stuff about your balding hair and just splash this stuff on and it grows back, and you don’t need Viagra anymore, you know. It’s the same rubbish, that stays always hidden in the back pages of cheap magazines. It’s the same stuff that’s sold on the shortwave. It’s the same old. It’s all fear-based selling, and you’re listening to an hour of advertising, and you think it’s a show. You think it’s a show.
Jackie: It is a show, Alan.
Alan: Yeah. They think it’s informative.
Jackie: It is a show. That’s why we don’t call Sweet Liberty a show.
Alan: I mean, if I wanted to and I was a real crook, I could do the same as certain; yeah, Miss Nightingale is a good term. Mind you, old Flo Nightingale in the history books was labeled as a psychopath. The real Florence Nightingale was labeled as a hysterical psychopath, you know. Because she used to get hysterical blindness and have tantrums and seizures if she didn’t get her way.
Jackie: And who was Florence Nightingale? Was she the nurse?
Alan: No, she wasn’t a nurse. No. She was from an aristocratic family.
Jackie: But who were we told she was?
Alan: Oh, the lady with the lamp, you know, on the occasional visit round the hospitals, which they had to set up, because all these British were coming back from all these wars with no limbs. And they were dumped on the street where they died with infections and so on. So, it was a sort of cover, where the British government put out a pittance to set up field hospitals for the first time. Before that they didn’t bother because you could always recruit more peasants. But it was becoming so highly visible with the British Empire taking all the countries over, that there was a massive fallout dumped on the streets of Bristol and all the other ports where they were discarded. And there was no pension, either, for these soldiers, so they just lay there and rotted and died. So they brought up a few hospitals, stuck old Flo at the top of it, and made up a myth about her being so compassionate and all the rest of it, you know. That’s the reality. But getting back to what I’m saying. The one on the shortwave. If I wanted to be like that, and make a killing on money, I’ve got lots of clay around here. I’ve got lakes all over the place. And you could probably eat this clay as well, because they’re selling it on that show, you know. And this thing will literally, will literally cure you of every disease, you know. It will suck every toxin out of your body. It will grow your hair back. And men will get erections, and women will get back their monthly cycle. So, I mean, it’s just a wonderful thing. So, I could do all that rubbish if I was a con man, but I’m not, you see. I’m not. But that’s what feeds, unfortunately, the shortwave business.
Jackie: Well, obviously, I’m not either, Alan.
Alan: Yeah. It’s a business.
Jackie: You should say, we’re not.
Alan: I mean, what person, apart from psychopathic people, can take advantage of terror and fear, use it for their spiel before they go and sell you their stuff, after terrifying the life out of you? “Oh, but here’s the antidote.” But they do it every day. Every day. And because the public think they’re being informed a little bit, no you’re not, you’re being conned. You’re being conned all the time, over and over. And, you see, there’s so much money to be made in misery. That’s the health profession….
Jackie: Misery and fear.
Alan: Especially misery. Because people in pain, and I know what I’m talking about, because I’m in it. But they’ll generally spend their last penny, that they don’t even have, on some bag of grass or something that they chew, that’s supposed to have miracle cures, simply because the propaganda says so, you know. You’ll do anything to get rid of pain, and when traditional medicine fails you, yeah, you’ll go through all this massive array of shark cartilage and all the rest of the rubbish they sell out there. And there’s been millionaires made off the shortwave from selling all this stuff. And for five years they’ll try the shark cartilage, and then they’ll jump to the next thing, and then the next thing, and then the next thing, because every five years they’ve got a whole bunch of new listeners.
Jackie: Yeah, you don’t hear anything about shark cartilage anymore.
Alan: No. Well, you know the reason why they were flogging the shark cartilage for arthritis? Do you know the reason for it?
Jackie: Because they found that sharks never got arthritis?
Alan: Sharks don’t have skeletons.
Jackie: No, but is that why they were saying it?
Alan: They said they don’t get arthritis, because they don’t have any skeletons. They have no bones. They’re all cartilage. That’s why they don’t get arthritis, but they didn’t tell the public that. And they took millions from the suckers who fed into all this stuff.
Jackie: Well, and to call them suckers.
Alan: It’s suckers, because….
Jackie: I know, Alan, but…
Alan: And you have to admit when you’ve been one. If you don’t admit it, you’ll do it again with the next con that comes along. And there’s lots of them out there. There’s lots and lots and lots of these cons out there. And these people make a fortune. We’re a world of schmucks, you see. We’ve all been trained to be schmucks, and listen to the professional people. I’ve had two professions, and qualified in one, and that was medicine, and I walked out of it, when I saw the corruption in it. I would not do it. I will not do anything that’s corrupt. But if I was, you know, a man of the world, or joined the Freemasons, and they would say, well, look, you’ve got to take advantage of the profane, those that are unenlightened. Yeah, I could have done that, but it’s not my nature.
Jackie: … I wanted to let our listeners know, Alan, I don’t know if you’ve been hearing this or not, but that Bush and Cheney and his gang have been indicted by a grand jury in Chicago. Well, that’s not the truth.
Alan: No. I’m not surprised. All these rumors that go around all the time, it’s just distraction.
Jackie: Right, well, this, I believe there is a grand jury sitting in Chicago, and it has something to do with Daly, the Mayor. But I’ve gotten two or three or four of them on the internet, and I received one today, and this woman said, this is a hoax. It isn’t true. Because she had called, and wanted to know when they were going to make the announcement, and they said, there has been no indictment, because there’s been no grand jury sitting for that purpose. And I got one just before we went on air, and evidently, one of the superstars interviewed, oh, I know who it was, Tom Flocko, today. And they said it was confirmed, that you could take it to the bank, basically, that this grand jury in Chicago had indicted Bush and Cheney and the gang. And so, I wanted our listeners to know, that the information I’ve got, is that that is not true. So, don’t take it to the bank, folks.
Alan: There is no complaint department for any of this.
Jackie: No, there isn’t. We were talking about that, yesterday, with the gas prices. Now, I got an email today, and evidently, there’s a group of truckers that are protesting the high gas prices. Of course, it will, any independent truckers that are left.
Alan: Yes, there’s very few.
Jackie: Will be, yes, will be going down the tubes on this one. And that was a comment that I made to you. I said, my God, everybody is complaining, but we complain to each other. Because, what do you do about it, who do you talk to? And like you said, in this system, there is no complaint department. You’ve got the corporations, that are controlling, and you’ve got bureaucrats that are not answerable to the public.
Alan: Yes. And that’s what Carroll Quigley said, in Tragedy and Hope, that the new system would be basically a new feudal system, run by international corporations, with members jumping in and out of governments and back to the corporations. Which is exactly what we’ve had for many years. So, yeah, there’s no complaint department for the spraying in the skies, or for anything else that’s happened. There truly is no complaint department here.
Jackie: Well, as far as those chemtrails, I’ve talked to several people, who when the planes are flying in their area, they’ll call the airport, or they’ll call if there’s a military base close by, an air force base, or whatever. And there the planes are, spreading their joy around the sky, and they’re just told, that according to our radars there’s no air traffic out there.
Alan: Well, you’re seeing things. That’s it. They’re all told the same stories, and fob the public off with silly answers, because they can’t admit. See, they’ve gone too far now that they can’t trace back their steps. They’re into the killing phase. That’s what’s happening. And they can’t go back and say, yeah, we have been hitting you hard with this stuff, and it will increase the death rate. Definitely with the very young and the elderly, especially. That’s what generally happens, with anything foreign to the body. And so they can’t go back and tell the public that now, that they’ve gone too far. They’ve gone too far.
Jackie: I was talking to my friend Mel, today, from North Carolina. And they had a storm there. He said, it was straight-line winds, that’s what they called them.
Alan: Yes. There’s another term they used in Canada, when it started 3 years ago, and the announcer said the brand new phrase they were using. I can’t remember what it was. But he said, it’s a strange phenomena, that we have these straight winds cutting swathes right through forests in a straight line, and it was as though the loggers had been through. It literally is a straight line, going on for maybe half a mile and then just stops. And nothing in nature happens in a straight line, you see.
Jackie: Well, this of course isn’t in nature, but now with saying that they had almost hurricane type winds, and it was one of those 20 minute, 30 minute ones. And he was telling me that the rain was actually coming sideways. Remember when we had those storms, I told you, and the wind was, okay, this was the day before yesterday, we had two of them. And they come right out of nowhere. Now, the Weather Channel is calling them pop-up storms. And your weather, your sun will be bright, and suddenly the cloud is, the sky is overcast, it’s cloudy, and there it comes. And I was in the family room, had the hallway windows open. I was a good, at least 8, maybe 10 feet, away from the windows, and when that rain hit, it was landing on me. And by the time I got the windows closed in that direction, I had water everyplace. And then by the time I got the windows closed, it was done. The sky, the sun came out, and about two hours later, we had another one, just like it.
Alan: They’re using advanced science on the public, and of course, they never write about these sciences in the Popular Science magazines, or anything. And so, Joe Average will think, if you mention this stuff, well, that’s impossible, we don’t have the technology. But yeah, they do have the technology. The real technology is never given to the public. And whenever they write that they’re working on something, that’s old news, they’ve had it. It’s probably obsolete by now, really. That’s how they keep us in one reality, while they have the toys in another, you know. So they’re very, very advanced with the science. They’re also coupling HAARP with arrays of satellites and boosting the signal. And they can actually bring it right down on anywhere on the planet.
Jackie: In other words, pinpoint it.
Alan: Yes. It can be done to an individual or to a whole state.
Jackie: I wanted to thank my new friend, Tim Thomas. He’s a radio broadcaster, in Cornell, a morning show. And Tim has offered, he’s got all the radio equipment, for me to give him a call, and Tim, if you’re listening, I will be calling, and thank you so much for your offer. Because, what he wants to do is some testing on my radio equipment, to see if there’s anything that can be done to tweak it or whatever; but meantime, he had mentioned in his email, that they had a tornado there. He’s around Corning area, and I read the newspaper article, and they were talking about the strange phenomena. And I think, if I’m not mistaken, they mentioned the rain coming in sideways.
Alan: Yeah, I had that today, too.
Jackie: That’s the way it’s coming in. It’s coming in sideways, Alan.
Alan: I had that today, it was a sudden storm. It started very quickly, and I had to run and close the windows, and when I was, oh, twelve feet from them, the rain was hitting me. A very strong wind. And it only lasted maybe ten minutes, and the heavy downpour.
Jackie: Just in time to get all the windows closed.
Alan: That’s right. I think they’re trying to frustrate us all. That’s it. They are using all this technology. And they’re going through their long agenda, their planned agenda for an age of chaos, and it has to take in everything, everything that they can possibly manage and bring the chaos about.
Jackie: You know, I remember, when I first started getting involved in waking up, getting politically involved at that time, back in 1992, late 1991, but it was probably about 1993 and I lived in Illinois at the time, and every time that I drove into Saint Louis, there was roadwork at this one particular place, and it went on forever. I mean, it just, month after month after month after month after month, and I mentioned it to Nicole, and she says, “Ma, I don’t understand what takes them so long. Why?” I said, “Nicole, actually it’s intentional, honey.” I said, “They’re doing it to frustrate people, in heavy traffic and drive time. Traffic is piled up for miles, even in non drive time, you’re a mile back, because of the road work there.” And she says, “Oh, get real.” Well, a few years ago, she said, “Mom, I believe you now. I believe you now.” Because, she said, that they’re constantly, you know, doing road work and blocking traffic, and closing lanes off, and they hang out in the same place for a long time. And folks, if this sounds, if you happen, to be a new listener, and this sounds out of this world to you, it’s because it is. And if you continue to listen, I believe that you will realize that what we’re saying is not paranoia, or right wing wacko, radical wacko, but it is exactly what it is for, to cause frustration and stress, and…
Alan: It’s also to create – I mean, Sudbury is the nearest town to me, and since I’ve been here for the last almost three years come winter, there’s been one stretch of road that they’ve dug up and then re-surfaced, and dug up and re-surfaced, and they keep going every year with the same stretch, and what it is, Sudbury is very, very Masonic. The lodges, all kinds of lodges are everywhere, and what they do is dish out the tax money to the high guys who own all the construction companies. It’s a job creation scheme for high Masons. And it goes on and on and on. Just dig it up and fill it in, dig it up and fill it in. And the public are just used to it, you know. That’s how it goes. You know, that happens in every city too. And then they’ll dig it up, and say, oh we have to put another pipe underneath there, that we missed the last time. And then they pull out these brand new pipes and stack them all, they’re spanking new. They’re only a year old, and then they put another bunch in. And this con game goes on forever.
Jackie: Probably fiber optics, though. I think they’ve been replacing. They started this a long time ago on the main highways.
Alan: And along the railroad lines. I saw them doing it. They’re actually burying them alongside the railroad tracks. So, yeah, they are doing that. There’s a lot that goes on that the public are totally unaware of. But I was going to mention that there was a caller last night that talked about October. October is a very popular month for the ones who rule the planet, the money boys, and their minions of very high Masons, down to the humble low ones. And Red October, of course, was the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. And Red is the color of the active principle, as they call it, the regenerative power, the flame, the fire.
Jackie: Because it’s the color of blood?
Alan: Blood and fire, you know. If you’re staring at a fire, in the middle of the yellow flame, you’ll find the Red, you know. So, Red is their color. It always has been. And Red October is extremely important to them, and this time of course, you have the Red Planet, in its closest conjunction for I think one and a half thousand years coming up, and they love these dates to cause some kind of mayhem. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do something in October.
Jackie: Mars? Are we talking about Mars?
Alan: Yeah, that’s the God of War.
Jackie: The God of War. I haven’t been out to look, but I had read this, that you’ll be able to see it very, very clearly, and it will look very large. Is that going on right now, Alan?
Alan: Not just yet, no, but apparently it will. It’s not going to be huge, but it’s going to be a lot brighter than it usually is.
Jackie: And it’s closest to the Earth than it has been in thousands of years?
Alan: I think one and a half, they said. So, they couldn’t miss an opportunity like that.
Jackie: Wow, that’s why you have a hunch that something is going to pop in October.
Alan: Yeah, they have all these dates, April 19 is another popular one.
Jackie: Well, then there’s hallowed evening in October.
Alan: Yes, and Ides of March, the Ides of September, which is September the eleventh.
Jackie: We have to take a break here…
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alright, folks, we’re back on with you. I don’t know if we’re back on the shortwave or not, yet, and I don’t even know if you got my address or heard anything I said. Alan is going to tell you, how you can get his books. And so, Alan, I’ll be back, okay. You go right ahead.
Alan: Yes, I have three books, it’s a series, really, called Cutting Through. And I just number them 1, 2, & 3. And I go through the ancient societies, right up to the present time, how they still run the world, of the profane, as they call the mass of the people, those in the darkness, in other words, and I go through a lot of Masonic coding, which isn’t mentioned in regular Masonic books, in the language itself. The English language was updated and created by them, really, in the 1500s, and within the English language, they encoded a whole bunch of ciphers, which they themselves use all the time. And they use it in newspapers, and they speak it too, on the main news, and if you understand it, you get the other meanings that you’re being told, but it’s really meant for higher Masons, not for the guys below 33 degrees. And I also give you photographs of the rituals and things like that. I also tie it in to the money system, from the earliest of times, going back from the days of Sumer. And I know there were civilizations prior to Sumer that also used gold and silver; and they weighed it then, before coin came in, around 800 BC. So, I pack these things with information. And One and Two are written in a sort of Gestalt manner, because, as you read it, you’ll have to start thinking, your mind will do it automatically, and things will suddenly come clear to you, that before you simply glossed over. And you’ll wonder why on Earth you never saw all this before. Number Three is written more in a normal format, with the history of the banking tied in with the merchants of ancient times, and how they created wars and manipulated nations, and installed their own tyrants, who then began to tax the people. Taxation is very important to their rulership and it dominates the countries forever.
So, these books are [see ordering information on transcript]. And I’ll get them out to you, as soon as I can.
And you certainly will not only enjoy them, but it really will show you things that you should have seen all your life, but you’ve been blinded by the indoctrination of the system. And the history, again, is taken from ancient philosophers, who occasionally mentioned money, the secret societies, which they all belonged to. They admitted that back in ancient Greece, that they’d all gone to Egypt to study and join the societies of priests. Every single philosopher did that. And Plato, being from the aristocracy, also trained in Egypt, and then, he went to India, for another higher degree, and then to the so-called Holy Land for another higher degree, and then went back to his home town. So, this is a regular route that these guys took, and they seldom mention the money, just once in a while. Which is rather odd, since the whole money system ran the ancient world, just as it does today. It wasn’t food and carrots that ran the world, it was the money. And that is the artificial system in which we live. It would be very, very hard for them to build cities, where they can then create the artificial system of taxation, if you paid them in food; they wouldn’t be able to do it. And neither could they get a standing army together to go and conquer other countries, unless you get the city first, and then use the money, train soldiers and pay them, and that’s the beginnings of mayhem.
We take these things for granted, simply because we’re born into a system where these things all exist. And Lenin himself, who was trained by the best bankers on the planet, wrote about it, and he said that the public must never realize that there is a thousand directions that humankind could go, and societies could go, but they must never know this. They must think that the one they’re born in must be natural, because it seemed to have evolved that way. That’s the trick. And of course, if your parents don’t know it was all fake – and since all mammals learn from their parents – if your parents don’t know and they can’t tell you, then you’ll fall into the same trap. You’re then trained, in school, to go out and run after this thing called money. They pour out movies, rags to riches movies, which condition us to believe that you just work hard and you get there.
Jackie: Well, that’s the American Dream, Alan.
Alan: It’s the American Dream. And of course, they’re all snoring, but that’s what the dream is for. It’s not reality. And you don’t get up into the upper ranks unless they open and bring you up. Not allow you up, but actually bring you up.
Jackie: What I did, while I was gone. I wanted you to hear this. This is what Tim sent me about the tornado, and it’s Canisteo. I think I’m pronouncing it correctly. It’s around, somewhere around, Corning, NY, which is just above us. Reports of a tornado touched down, Friday afternoon, that would have been last Friday. It was about 2:30 according to Jim Brewster, Binghamton based meteorologist. Most of the damage was confined to wooded areas, and a cornfield, and then there was some damage, I’m not going to read this whole thing. They said the couple was sitting on their enclosed sun porch when the storm hit. They had a pole sheared, and it snapped a 60 foot tall pine tree, and embedded two pine trees into a camper. It was a tornado. But they were sitting on their enclosed sun porch when the storm hit, they saw the beginning of the wind damage, before deciding to move further inside their home. She said it started to rain. There was a little hail, and all of the sudden, there was a roaring wind. We saw the pine trees start to fold down, and headed inside for cover, because it was really severe. It was unbelievable, she said. The whole thing only took about 60 seconds before it was over. This is why I wanted you and our listeners to hear this. And then they talked about the damage to their property, and that the cows weren’t hurt. Okay, let me go down here. There was power outage. Okay, listen to this now. “The tornado was confirmed by the national weather service, Saturday, as an F1, meaning, winds range between 73 to 112 miles per hour. Brewster said the winds for the Canisteo tornado were likely between 75 and 80.” And I think Mel told me that the winds that they had there in North Carolina with their storm, were around, they were close to hurricane force winds. But listen to this, Alan, “Brewster said, I saw enough evidence to confirm an F1 tornado. It appears as if it was a tightly wound, brief tornado, that was about a hundred to a hundred and fifty yards in width, and ran about a mile.” It basically ran right along state route 36, over Bush Hill, dropped down behind a residence. And see, Tim was right next door to the residence that got hit. It was pretty much confined in the area between Gravel Run Road and Rock Run Road. Stewart said, listen to this, “The damage to the corn field looked like crop circles. Which Brewster said looked very unusual. That was very unique, Brewster said. There was definitive damage in the storm track and then they had these other strange circular damages to the corn field.” This is the newspaper article. Crop circles. But you know what I thought about, we’ve talked about this before, I don’t know if we’ve talked about it on the air or not, but the fact that they can pinpoint. I think that’s probably what they’re doing, is practicing, their little mini tornadoes. So they could hit a particular property, and just take it out.
Alan: They can do it.
Jackie: I think so, because back about 19, I think it was ’98, it was in the summer. In fact, I was doing, no, yes, well, I was doing 6pm at the time. And so, it would have been that summer. The children were visiting, Jodie was here. And I was in the studio here, around 5 o’clock and Ashley came running in and said mama, come and help us, it’s raining and the rain is coming in every window. And I ran out of the room, and by then they had shut all the windows, but, now this is not a tornado. We’re up 1800 feet, okay, Alan. We always keep all the windows in the house open in the summertime. And it’s good that we did, because Jodie was in the kitchen, which is a wide entrance to the dining area, the dining room. And when I got out there, she said mom, you wouldn’t believe this, she said, that wind came in here, and you could actually feel it swirling around. She said it was just like a tornado was inside the house. Well, it was over in a matter of minutes, same thing. However, we didn’t know this. There’s some very huge, it’s a poplar tree, a hybrid poplar. They’re probably about 90 foot tall out there, or 80. They’ve very tall, big. They’re not the kind of poplars that are tall and skinny. They’ve got great big spreading branches. And so, anyway, the people that owned the place, before we bought here, stopped by, after dinner. And John came in, and he said, “I see you, I see you took down one of the big poplars.” I said, “What?” He said, well, one of the big poplars is down out there. And Alan, the top of that tree came off. If it had come to the house. It was actually not in center of the house, but to the left of the house, a little. But it went over to the left, and took half of a little crab apple tree out. That would have totally come through the roof. Huge trees. I’ve had them topped by the way, since then, so that that can’t happen. But it was, I know it was a mini tornado. And we were the only one that got hit. There was no damage anywhere else around. And it took a tree right out.
Alan: It’s micro-management of the weather. They admitted that in the newspapers, that the US would shortly own the weather. And that was about four years ago.
Jackie: Well, there’s a website. It’s an air force website. Basically, it says the air force owns the weather.
Alan: And they do. And of course, NASA controls the satellites, which can also be used in conjunction with all the various HAARP technologies that they have, and beam it exactly back down on earth, wherever they want it. Four years ago, I was working under a truck, and in broad daylight, it was in the middle of summer. And I heard this voh-voh-voh sound, and I looked to my left and I saw what was like a stroboscopic light, like a flashgun going off, in a strobe fashion. I thought, my, I’ve been under here a long time, I better stand up and see if I’m okay. So, I stood up, and I felt fine. And yet, everything was still flashing. I went inside the house, turned on the radio, and I could hear the same zap, zap, zap in time with the strobe. I turned on the television, which had rabbit-ear antennas on it. And it was picking up the signal on the picture, in conjunction with the radio sound, going across there. And that night, I had three or four calls from different people in different parts of the States, and a couple in Canada, who said, this might sound really weird to you, but I thought I saw like flash guns going off, strobe lights, in the middle of the sunlight. And I said, yeah, I experienced it, and they’re using some sort of new satellite technology. But that meant they were basking Ontario, and who knows where else up this way, right down into Carolina and different parts. That’s a huge area.
So, they do have different technologies they have been testing on the public. And I have no doubt that they’ll keep records of different kinds of sicknesses, through their doctors records, and hospital visits and so on, and police reports to see how psychological changes occur with violence or depression or whatever, and cede it all back to them; but it was definitely some big experiment. And it went on and off, over a three week period, maybe three times. So, they are using amazing technologies, which they’ll never tell the public about. And of course, in the high noble Masonry, I’ve been told from three separate sources in these organizations, that there are three levels of science, and from professorship down is the lowest level. So everything that the public are informed about is the lowest level of science. CIA and so on, they get to use the middle level for their gimmicks that they use. But there’s a higher level above them, that belong to the Guardians, who run the whole show for the planet. And that’s how this system works. And that’s why those at the bottom say, “well that’s impossible, I read all the magazines, and scientific journals, and they would’ve told us.” Well, that’s the con game, “they would’ve told us.” No, that keeps you in the dark.
Jackie: Right. You know, Alan, I don’t know if you recall this or not, it was in the summertime, and I have no idea what the year was. Maybe ’99? The children were here, it was summertime. And it was in the evening. We were out in the garden, in the big garden, the children and I. Chuck was up closer to the house. And suddenly, there was an explosion. And I stood there. And it was so intense. And my first thought was, oh, my God, they’ve done it. I was thinking of a nuclear explosion. And the children and I looked at each other, and we took off running for the house. And Chuck came out, and he said, don’t go in the house, don’t go in the house. It could have been a gas explosion. We have natural gas here. And so, we walked out to the road, you know, to look down, because it sounded so close. And it was real hazy out that night. And when I looked down the road to where the neighbor is, I thought, oh my God, I wonder if Sharon’s house blew up, because it looked so hazy. Well, then, the next thing you know, a car is coming up the road, one of the emergency, you know, volunteers. And they said, do you know, do you know where that occurred? We said, no, it sounded like it was down there. Well, we got in the car and started driving around, and as far as we went, even up into the state line, people were talking about it, and everybody you talked to, they thought it was right near their home. Okay, well, there were newspaper reports, the next day. We were told that an airplane crashed, someplace, I forget what. But in the newspaper colored photographs of corn plants, that had these little perforations, perfect perforations across the leaves of what do you call them, the fronds, the stems. We never, ever found out what the heck happened. But the perforations in the corn plants, and it happened in many of the areas.
Alan: This was when? When was this?
Jackie: I’ve got the newspaper articles in there, in my file. Isn’t it interesting how something like that happens. It’s so intense. And then, it’s like, gone. Like you said.
Alan: Well, I think it was last year the major news up here reported that something was exploding in the air, over from British Columbia, at least, it said British Columbia, all the way down into the U.S. states. And it had set off car alarms in the middle of the night, all the way down. And then of course, the speculation came out, they brought out, oh, it might be some kind of strange meteor, and so on and so on.
Jackie: Right. Well, see, we were also told that, that they thought a meteor hit some place, but nothing.
Alan: Well, the odd thing was, a week later, Australia had the same thing happen. And what they’re doing is using, again, the Tesla technology. They’re superheating parts of the atmosphere, and they’re literally exploding. That’s what it does.
Jackie: Wow. That’s probably what happened here. We’re out of our hour. And ladies and gentlemen, we will be back with you tomorrow night. Thank you for being here tonight. And I hope you were able to hear the broadcast, and not have to pick pieces out of our conversation.
August 17th, 2005
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good evening. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is the 17th of August. Is that right, Alan?
Alan: It is.
Jackie: It is August the 17th, folks, in the year 2005. And it is, of course, the end of our broadcast week. We’re here Monday through Wednesday, and WFAR has a new satellite, and I was going to get it, and I am so sorry that I just now thought about it. For those of you, I guess people who are listening on satellite know it then, because I know that it’s been announced. But I will get it, and I will share it with you, for those of you who prefer, if you have a CBAND satellite, who prefer to do that. Alan is back with us tonight. Actually, I had told Alan this afternoon that it was going to be you and me tonight, folks, because I had stuff I wanted to share with you, and I canned today. I haven’t canned in three years, because, for the last two years, the garden has just been totally drowned out. And I got 17 pints of delicious pickle relish today, from my homegrown cucumbers. And it was a thrill, but I had forgotten how long a process it is and all the steps that we have to go through to get that done. And it was about 5 minutes till the hour of nine, before I filled that last jar. So, Alan graciously, when I called him, said, of course, he will be on with us, and here he is. And Alan, thank you.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Our spiritual message, and I didn’t want to forget this, and I did. This would be from Psalm 139, folks. “Search me father, and know my heart. Test me and know my anxious thoughts. See if there is any offensive way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.” That’s from Psalm 139, verses 23 and 24. Know thyself. Jesus said there is nothing more to know. And maybe that’s our whole mission here in a sense, Alan.
Alan: I think it is, because, I mean even though a lot of the Psalms were taken from the Egypt wisdom writings, there’s a lot of truth in there. But when you were saying, search me father, I was seeing in my mind, search me government, because you see these black-clad guys searching people all over the place now.
Jackie: I know. You said that the last time I did this.
Alan: And of course, they’re looking for anything they can find as well that’s out of the ordinary, even your opinions. So, we’re certainly going through the opposite side you might say of what was given thousands of years ago. They’ve reversed it, and now the government, or the state, or the world state is really in charge. And we’re seeing the misery that it can produce. But we’re just at the beginning, at least in the Western countries, of the beginning of misery.
Jackie: You know, Alan, the one thing I keep in mind, and you’ve said this before, that this plan is millennia old. It’s been forever going on. And they’ve never been totally successful. And it doesn’t mean just because of what it looks like to us right now, I just, it can’t. I mean, I’m not saying that we should just sit back and say, oh, it ain’t going to happen, but to be aware of what they have in store, what their intentions are. We see what’s happening. I mean, it’s like the price of gas right now. And it just keeps going up and up and up, and as you said, you know, when I mentioned, well, you know, everybody is complaining, but, we only complain to each other, because where do you go? And in this system.
Alan: There’s no complaints department.
Jackie: There’s no complaint department in this system. So, I am not trying to make light of what we see, and what we’ve learned, that their intention for us and for this world is. And yet, things happen. For example, I don’t know if you’ve heard this. Maybe it’s been talked about on other broadcasts. The lady, who went to Texas, who’s in Crawford, Texas, camping out, protesting the death of her son, in Iraq, because she knows that her son died for nothing. He died because of lies. And now hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of people, parents of these soldiers that have been killed are coming to support this cause. And there evidently is a group in California, that had started what they called Arlington West, Arlington Cemetery West. And what they did, is they made wooden crosses, and they’ve made a graveyard of all the names that they know of the soldiers that have been killed. There’s about 2,000 of them now, I guess, and Alan, I think probably that count is probably half of, and of course, it doesn’t even bring in all of the ones that come back missing limbs, legs, and arms, and half of a face, and etc. But anyway, because of what this lady is doing, and she’s just sitting there very peaceably, well, the people in California, moved their Arlington West cemetery to Texas. And they’ve got, there’s a website I was reading it today, in fact, I’m going to send it to Darren to ask him to post it on Sweetliberty.org. But what they did, is they put all of these crosses down the road, in a ditch, and you know, one by one by one by one by one, and there are more and more people coming all the time. And those are the kinds of things, people that are not just sitting back. People, maybe this woman doesn’t know diddly-squat about a long-range plan, but what she’s doing from her heart is protesting the sin, the crime, of what is happening to the young men and women that are killing and dying for the New World Order. And that kind of stuff is uplifting.
Alan: Yeah, I think that’s one of the reasons they’re going to rush forward with their plans for Iran, and try and get it over and done with before anything else happens back home, you know.
Jackie: Well, and then there was that email I got that Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico, and I went to the website of the state government of New Mexico, and it’s there. When I first read it, I wondered if somebody just made it up. He issued an executive order, calling an emergency to protect their borders there, I think four counties there at the line, the Mexican border. And one of the statements he made in the press release was that the federal government is doing little or nothing, and that something has to be done. Now, they’re still trying to work with the federal government, but they mentioned, you know, besides the illegal aliens that are swarming across our borders, stolen and killed cattle, and drug running, and this type of a thing. Now, I don’t know if there’s more to that. I’m sorry to say this. Maybe I’m becoming jaded, but I think there’s more to it just than this guy, because I don’t know any governors that aren’t in the pockets of, you know, the controllers.
Alan: Well, it isn’t as though they’ve just noticed. This has been going on for years. And I’m sure there will be some other government rule, or law, ready to get it put into place; it was probably all drawn up long before he came up with this. And it will effect probably everybody in the US, rather than just the ones who are coming across the border into the US. There’s got to be something else behind it.
Jackie: There probably is, but for right now, it looks good. Let’s put it that way. And we’ll watch it. We’ll watch to see.
Alan: Because George Bush has already signed the unification of the Americas, back in March, with the two prime ministers, one from Mexico and one from Canada. So, we know the federal scheme. And this guy has to be in on it, you know.
Jackie: Or he wouldn’t be alive today, Alan.
Alan: He wouldn’t be alive. And he had to have known when they signed the unification. Well, it happened, you know, down his way, when they went down and signed it anyway. He’d have to have known about it. They wouldn’t leave him out of it. So, there’s another reason behind it, for sure.
Jackie: I think there probably is. In fact, as I said earlier today, it could even be something as simple as a close friend of his owned a ranch that got raided or something. Well maybe not.
Alan: Either that, or the drug drops didn’t work out properly, and they’re peeved.
Jackie: You know, his name is Bill Richardson. Well, I just noticed this. And what I want to look into, it probably isn’t the same person, but there was a Senator, Bill Richardson, from California, and he was the same one that wrote the book when he was a state Senator, titled, “So You Think We Read the Laws”, “You Think We Read the Bills” it was supposed to be, it was supposed to be humorous. But it really basically told about, you know, how the state legislatures, they don’t know what the heck they’re doing, and they just rubber-stamp everything. He was also the one that started, the other Bill Richardson, and I don’t know if this is the same guy, but seems like I saw a picture of that Bill Richardson, and this guy looked like him, to me, from my memory. He started gun owners of America. And of course, that’s another shill organization, phony conservative, Larry Pratt, who heads it up, of course, is a long-time member of the Council for National Policy.
Alan: And also the big family that started up the CFR in the US for the Royal Institute of International Affairs, was the Pratt family.
Jackie: Oh, you’re kidding.
Alan: I wonder if he’s related.
Jackie: Oh, now wouldn’t that be interesting to check out.
Alan: In fact, their main record house in New York is actually called the Pratt House.
Jackie: Pratt House, yes, it is.
Alan: You always find the same family names cropping up down through history, over and over and over. So, I wouldn’t be surprised. The thing is, I mean, there’s nothing hidden about the agenda, because it’s all been well documented by many of the people involved, who were all for it. H.G. Wells back in the early 1900s called it The Open Conspiracy, because anybody could get the material and the future by simply reading the books that they put out themselves. And he went through the entire agenda, leading to the air police, he called them, where the air police would simply bomb all those countries or gas them, actually, or spray them from the skies, until they conformed to world government. And it’s to be a world government run by scientists and experts. And everybody would be subject to them. So, this is well documented, there’s nothing….
Jackie: Who was this, Alan?
Alan: H.G. Wells. And he worked for MI5. He was a spokesman for the British government. He was a propagandist actually. And, of course, most people know him for his science fiction writings, and even those were actually, it was a form of predictive programming, they called it, to program the public, through novels, of what was to come. That way, when it really does happen, you’re sort of familiar with the ideas, and you accept them more readily as being inevitable. But he wrote an awful lot of books, which were non-fiction, and he was getting all the material for both of those types of books, from professors at Oxford University and Cambridge, and he just had to write a sort of story around them, to get them over to the public. But he was the main propagandist for World War I for Britain. And he coined the phrase, because they were running short of troops. They couldn’t get enough cannon fodder, with the heavy machine guns, which, Maxim, Henry Maxim sold to the German side and it was Lord Vicars, went in partnership with the same guy, who sold them to the British and the French.
Jackie: Now who was he? Was he an American or what?
Alan: Vicars was English.
Jackie: He was British.
Alan: So, Vicars and Maxim formed a company based in Switzerland, a neutral country. And they knew the war was coming up, because their peer group had told them so. And so, they sold these heavy machine guns to all sides, and made a massive profit. You might say they made a killing, you know. And, of course, they weren’t prosecuted for it. And Vicars was promoted from being a Sir to a Lord, for his part in it. But anyway, H.G. Wells coined the term, because they were running short of men, the War to End All Wars. That was to get the young idealists to join up.
Jackie: In other words, we’ll go fight for this, and then we’ll have World Peace from now on.
Alan: That’s Utopia. So, he wrote a book called The Open Conspiracy, and goes through the whole agenda.
Jackie: I read a piece today, when I pulled up my email. Somebody wrote, I didn’t read the whole thing, I do a lot of skimming, scanning, whatever, but, it was somebody who had mentioned. Oh, I know, it was a website. I tried to go there too, and wasn’t able to get into it. But, whoever wrote it, mentioned that the wars, that mentioned the Christians, that all the versions that there are of the Bible, every single one of them is the word of God, and not to be questioned. And made that point, and that all of these wars are right out of the Old Testament. Because the Old Testament is full of nothing but wars, Alan.
Alan: Oh, of course it’s all wars, because that’s the system. See, this is a system that was developed thousands of years ago, based on money, not food or anything else. Money controls everything. And we’re all trained to work for money, not to work for food or clothing, or whatever. We’re self-maintained slaves. We buy all our own stuff, and the rest of it goes to our betters in taxes. So, it’s a system, but the Bible has been tampered with, heavily. Old Testament is OT which is also the Order of Templars. We should remember that to begin with. And it’s the Black Book. Black is law in the Talmud. And Black is also law in the Kabbala.
Jackie: Well, and Moses Mendelssohn was quoted as saying that Judaism is not a religion, it is a law religionized.
Alan: Well, all of them are. All of them end up in laws, based on it, and really whether they call it religion or whatever. If you go to the 46th psalm, see the number 10….
Jackie: And folks, when Alan says Sam, we pronounce it Salm. I just, that confused me when you were talking about that before.
Alan: Okay. Yeah, if you get six and four, or four and six, you get ten. So, all combinations that work out to ten are the binary code, which is very high in High Masonic Coding. You get the 46th one, and you count from the first word forward and you’ll find the word, “shake”. Then, forget “selah” at the bottom, which just means, make it so. That’s put on to all of them. Forget that one, and count backwards, 46, and you’ll find spear, Shakespeare, in there.
Jackie: Say, okay, would you repeat that one more time? I’m making notes, but I didn’t get it all. 46 psalm.
Alan: Count forward, 46 words.
Jackie: 46 words forward.
Alan: You’ll get Shake. Then you take, from the bottom, the end, forget selah, which is like amen, added on to it. And count 46 back, and you’ll get spear.
Jackie: Okay, you go to the end of the 46 psalm. So you start from the front, go 46 forward, you get Shake. Go all the way to the back, count 46 back, and you get spear.
Alan: And that’s a little Masonic joke, right in there you see.
Jackie: No, but you know what. There have been books written about Bible Code, and what they do is show that this could not have been done by man.
Alan: That’s nonsense.
Jackie: No, I know that. Excuse me. I shouldn’t have said show. They use it as proof.
Alan: I know.
Jackie: That this could not have been done by man, because there’s too many of these types of codes in the Old Testament, because, I’ll tell you, when I read this, it was very astounding to me. And now, it makes sense.
Alan: It was a joke. I mean, Bacon, Francis Bacon is claimed by the High Masons, was also Shakespeare, which makes a lot of sense, because the history of Shakespeare, who basically, with all of the 180,000 words he came out with in his plays, that were new words, he created the English language. That’s how they put it over. And then the Bible, the King James Bible, reinforced that, because prior to those days, people were speaking, in England, they were speaking Old Saxon German. That was the language. So they created a new language and Bacon wrote about it in his own memoirs. He said, we are creating the international language of the future, to be called English.
Jackie: Francis Bacon, does his name have anything to do with Ham?
Alan: Actually, it’s a play. Frank is Red, like Franklin, Benjamin Franklin. The term even in medicine for bright red blood is called frank. Frank blood, you see. And so, you have Ben, which is son, Jamin, which is I am in high Masonic coding.
Jackie: Benjamin?
Alan: I am the son of the red. That’s what it means, the red way.
Jackie: But what about Francis Bacon, that world Bacon?
Alan: Well, he’s the same red, and there’s two ways there. You’ve got a beacon, which is like a lighthouse, you might say, Illuminati. And Illuminati did not begin with Weishaupt, because even the old Oxford dictionaries say it’s a movement which first began to be noticed, or put its head above water around the 13th Century AD in England.
Jackie: Douglas Reed suggested that possibly, that Weishaupt received it from the Knights Templars.
Alan: Weishaupt got it from the Royalty of Europe. When he was, it’s in the official history books, when he was chased out of Bavaria, he sought refuge and was granted refuge in the House of Saxe-Gotha. The present Queen of England, her full name is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. So, they gave him a pension, in Saxe-Gotha, which was a part of Germany. And they gave him a life-long pension to live there, and he lived there till he died. So why would royalty grant Weishaupt, who was supposed to overthrow everybody, why would they grant him refuge there and a pension to live on, unless they had put him up there in the first place, to cause the revolution. That’s the key to it. These particular royal families eventually came over to England, and they took over England as well. They all traced their roots back to Prussia. But that’s the official history, you know. And Weishaupt is a pseudonym for Wise Leader, that’s what it means.
Jackie: Wise Leader. …The way that he explained it, he didn’t say that Weishaupt got it from the Templars. He just suggested that possibly. But he explained how it’s set up in cells, and that the people on one level, they just take orders from the person just above them. And they don’t know anything else that’s going on.
Alan: It’s still part of Freemasonry’s oaths today. It’s said that you must obey immediately an order by a superior degree, and put your own moral judgment and opinions in reserve. You must carry out the order, regardless.
Jackie: And when you take a look at it, kind of from above, like a bird’s eye view of it, first of all, it does make sense. You know, the fact that so many of their minions that are carrying out the plan, they’re only given like an Nth degree. They have no idea. They may be given an ostensible reason why they’re doing a particular job or something. And they could be working alongside of other agents, that are doing their own part of it, and neither of them know that they’re agents.
Alan: Very often that’s the case.
Jackie: Okay. And then, when you look at the whole thing, and you have the CIA and CSIS and the Mossad, and you know, all of the Secret Services in every country, then you see that it’s all, I see it like a puppet master up there. That’s what I see in my mind’s eye, just pulling the strings on all of them. It is a global spy network.
Alan: Oh, it is, it is.
Jackie: It’s a global spy network.
Alan: Every part is compartmentalized from the department above it. And that’s why they’re all kept in the dark, except for their own little role or mission, and as you say, you can work, you could actually be working and there’s guys above you sabotaging your work, you know. And you’d never know. And those guys would have higher clearances than you, and all you would be told is the word would come down to leave it alone, don’t go any further.
Jackie: And not only that, but they actually kill each other, thinking that they’re killing an enemy. So, talk about minions, Alan. Pawns in a game.
Alan: Sure, and that’s the whole thing with secrecy of any kind. Secrecy always is used for subterfuge and power. That’s the reason for secrecy. And Secret Services are at the top of the whole list. And as I said before, Peter Wright, who was in MI5 and MI6, in his own book said that when he joined MI5 as a specialist, they took it for granted that he was a Freemason, and the woman who basically was stamping his cards for him, his IDs said, you must be a Freemason. He says, oh, no. She says, well, that’s impossible, everybody that works here is a Freemason. So, he said it in his own book. And that’s the same in Russia. Trotsky said in his own memoirs, My Life, he said, I was initiated into Freemasonry while in prison. And when he died, or was assassinated, he was writing what he called, he said it would be the greatest volume on Freemasonry ever written. So he was going to, probably through his own ego, start to expose some things which he shouldn’t expose. And he said, when he was escorted from Russia, because he was ordered out, his guards crossed different borders by giving Masonic signs to the opposing guards in different countries. So, there’s the brotherhood at work, even at all the different guard posts. No questions were asked.
Jackie: Do you think it’s true – I’ve heard this and read it – that if a person goes into court, that if they have some of the Masonic positions and etc, that if they can project that to the judge, that the judge will be lenient with them.
Alan: Yes. It’s their law.
Jackie: Their law.
Alan: They cannot deny a fellow Freemason in distress.
Jackie: Well that would be, then it would behoove us to get some of their little, well, not a handshake, because you’re not going to be shaking hands with the judge, but some of their little sayings and phrases and positions. Like Jack Benny. Remember how. We have to take a break right now. Folks, we’re going to be back right after this, with Alan Watt. Stay with us.
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Jackie: Alright, we’re back with Alan Watt. Alan, you and I were going to on the break monitor our shortwave radios, and I forgot to do that. Did you happen to flip yours on?
Alan: I didn’t; I didn’t plug it in, even.
Jackie: You didn’t even plug it. Yeah, okay. Maybe we’re losing our memories, Alan.
Alan: Could be, yeah.
Jackie: Anyway, folks, I wanted to remind you. I mentioned this last night. I don’t know how we’re coming in. The one big one that I get constantly is that I am overmodulated. My voice is overmodulated, which I don’t understand, because I understood the engineer, Jason, at WWCR, to say that they were getting a beautiful clear, crisp signal, from the satellite. And if it’s going in that way, it should be coming out that way.
…Alright. We were talking about the Masonic hand symbols or signals and stuff. And I mentioned Jack Benny. And remember how he used to stand with his arm crossed over his chest, and then his elbow on his hand, and then he’d hit the side of his face. I was told that that’s the Masonic symbol of the square.
Alan: It is. You’ll see a lot of people, famous people, including Stalin and Napoleon, with their hand across the chest and the right angle.
Jackie: No, but I mean, do you remember, did you ever see Jack Benny on TV?
Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: Okay. It wasn’t, it didn’t have like the right hand up across, but it was like really a square, because his hand, his arm, the forearm went across the chest. And then his elbow was rested on that hand, and then his other hand was against his face. But I was told that that’s a Masonic….
Alan: You see it every time world leaders meet on television. You’ll see Mr. Bush greet Tony Blair, or whoever. They did it with Arafat too, so they’re all Masons. And it’s toe to toe, knee to knee. And of course, it’s hand to hand, then your left hand goes to the elbow, then behind the back, hand to back, and they hug each other, and then they whisper in each other’s ear. And that’s the five physical points of Freemasonry. So, you see it all the time, with all the world leaders. They’re all Masons.
Jackie: What if somebody was standing before a judge in a court room? What could they do or say?
Alan: As a real last resort, if you really are in the wrong, and you want mercy….
Jackie: I’m not saying, no, forget it. Very few people that go into court are in the wrong.
Alan: You’re talking about Masons.
Jackie: I’m talking Freemasonry.
Alan: And I’m just telling you that that’s what you do as a last resort as a Freemason, apart from having a word with the Sheriff’s Clerk, he’s more important than the judge.
Jackie: The Sheriff’s Clerk?
Alan: That’s right. And then you go before the Judge. And if the Judge still didn’t quite clue in, as a last resort, you try your Joseph Smith thing, of the Mormons, because you throw your hands up in the air, as a Y, the letter Y, and you say is there no one here to help a widow’s son. And that’s the final plea for mercy, and he must grant you it.
Jackie: What about just a person that’s in court, and shouldn’t be there, but is? That would be a final plea. But is there anything that can be done or said, that would let the judge know?
Alan: It all goes through the Sheriff, beforehand. That’s traditional, in every country. In every single country, you have a word with the Sheriff, and you tell him, and he’ll say, I’ll see what I can do. That’s why you’ll see some cases drag on, petty little cases. And other ones, the same type of thing is dismissed right away. That’s been going on for hundreds of years. And it’s no different today. And so many of the public who are….
Jackie: And the Judge has to give you leniency?
Alan: Yeah, once you’re a brother, and you let them know you’re a brother, and you’re in bad straits, etc, and this will upset your reputation, or whatever, or your job. They must grant you mercy, and it will be dismissed. And men, of course… see, the only thing that you can do wrong as a Mason, is to break a Masonic rule against your fellow brother Masons. What you do to the public is almost irrelevant. And you’re allowed to have intercourse with anybody’s wife, as long as it’s not a Freemason’s. That’s in their rules.
Jackie: Even the judge’s wife?
Alan: No, not with a fellow mason’s.
Jackie: Oh, that would be wrong. Oh, yeah.
Alan: Then you wouldn’t be tried in a court for it, you’d be tried on the square, inside the Masonic lodge. So, they have their own little courts for their own rules and laws.
Jackie: How does one get a hold of the Clerk?
Alan: Oh, you just go in and see them. You just ask to see them. And they’ll give you little clues.
Jackie: What about a woman? I mean, does a woman count too?
Alan: Well, if she’s in the Eastern Star, although they’re all side degrees, that counts as well. Especially if they’re at the heads of different charitable organizations, which they’re encouraged to do. So, sure. It counts for them, as well. And that’s why the public are so confused when they see the same types of cases, same supposed charges, and five of them are dismissed as soon as the person’s name is read out and the charge, and other ones with the same charge go through two or three hours, and then get a fine or imprisonment. It’s because ones are Masons and others are not. That’s traditional. The court is a Masonic Lodge. It’s set out that way. And the bar is your bar between the peasantry and the man who sits as god. He presides over the court. He wears the Saturn, the black Saturn gown. He is a god, you know. So that’s how it is. Now, getting back to Bacon though, I meant to mention too, that Bacon, when you break it down, is also B A Con. You know, Con is a priest, a Cohen. And so you have all that in the name.
Jackie: Well, I thought of ham, because you’ve mentioned the name Ham before. And when you mentioned, brought up Francis Bacon, the first thing I thought of was ham.
Alan: Oh, as ham and bacon. (Chuckle) But that’s how they hide their names and so on. And William Shakespeare, the High Masons all claim, and Francis Bacon were one and the same person. And of course, Bacon did help to write the King James Version. King James was a High Mason himself.
Jackie: And a pervert. A big-time pervert.
Alan: Yeah. He chased the page boys all over the place. That was his hobby.
Jackie: Well, the stuff I’ve read about him, it was even worse than that.
Alan: Oh, it was worse, all right.
Jackie: He rolled in the blood of dead animals, and had sex with cadavers.
Alan: Well, I don’t know if it was that bad, but he certainly chased the boys, and that’s the official Scottish history records. They called him Shamey Jamie.
Jackie: Well, you know I think maybe I saw a movie one time, and I think it was one of those old movies that they show sometimes. It seems it was in black and white. And if I’m not mistaken, they showed him as a real mincing, feminine male.
Alan: He also had a bad limp too. And he was kind of deformed. But, yeah, he was definitely homosexual. There was nothing hidden about that. He was married, but that was for offspring only, and that is not unusual.
Jackie: And that is the accepted and treasured and idolized and worshiped version of the Bible by many people.
Alan: Well, that’s the one that Jesus used.
Jackie: Oh, okay. It seems to me, and I don’t think that people think about it. Or maybe they don’t. Maybe they do, but I don’t think they do. That they worship that book, a book, more than Creator.
Alan: That’s why it’s called The Holy Bible. It is a book, but they’ve made it a sacred object.
Jackie: Well, Bible means book, doesn’t it?
Alan: Yeah, but holy, holy. I mean holy means it’s sacred. Now it’s been deified as the book being sacred. So you’re not supposed to worship any image. And of course, how did they get the print onto those pages? It’s called engraving. It’s a graven image. So, I mean, it’s such a joke, you see.
Jackie: Well, you know what. It might seem like a joke to you. I find it, Alan, I mean, it’s a joke on us. And I don’t think it’s a joke to you. I think it’s much more serious than that. Because, I find it so, I don’t know, just so deep, sad, that it’s so easy to mold people’s minds.
Alan: It always has been, and if they leave us unchanged, unmodified, it always will be. Like Gorbachev, when he said, he said that the world has always been ruled by religion to keep the people obeying the governments. And he said We, and he’s an atheist, in the same book he admitted that….
Jackie: Gorbachev?
Alan: Yeah, Mikhail Gorbachev. Towards a New Civilization was his book. And in it, he says, we are now creating the new world religion, which will be based on Earth Worship. So, here’s a guy who tells you he’s an atheist, who’s in the business now of helping to create a world religion, to keep the public in check. So they understand this.
Jackie: He has offices in the Presidio in California.
Alan: Yes. And he had that, if you check into the official license to operate, Mikhail Gorbachev was granted the license in the US, before he left Russia, and while he was still President of the Soviet Union. So, there you go, everything is a farce, as it’s presented to the public. So, here he is, who was the head of the KGB, and the President of the Soviet Union, who was granted by the US government a license to reside in the US and operate this global governance little depot. And they granted it to him while he was still the President of Russia.
Jackie: And he came over here, and people cheered him.
Alan: Well, actually, it was the greatest PR move ever done. Maggie Thatcher was the first one to bring him over to Britain, Gorbachev and his wife. And the press, years later, the press admitted that they had all agreed, your free press now, that’s there to inform you, all agreed not to ask any pertinent questions concerning Communism or the true state of the Soviets, but only to ask about his wife’s lipstick, her hairdo, what kind of hair salons they had in Russia, and where Mikhail Gorbachev had his nice light flashy looking suit, you know. So that was a PR stunt. And then, when they brought him over to the US, they did, after the same kind of publicity stunt, because the press in the US did exactly the same, they kept to their lines, they didn’t ask any nasty questions. And they did a poll survey, and they found that over 75% of the people in Britain and the US wouldn’t mind if Gorbachev was their president one day.
Jackie: Oh my God.
Alan: That’s in the books.
Jackie: You know what, we’re almost out of our hour. And we’re, of course, out of our week, here. One of the things that we’ve discussed, and I would like you to take a few minutes to talk about it. On Sweet Liberty we don’t talk about the, oh, what Senator did this, and what, all of the little, you know, everyday things, because, basically, I mean, you could literally be broadcasting eight hours a day.
Alan: Or more, if you could stay awake.
Jackie: If you could stay awake. And, will you comment on that, Alan.
Alan: Yeah, I mean, the nitty-gritty of who says what today and so on, I tend to ignore, because I’ve got an overview of the whole agenda, and that’s all anyone really needs. I don’t need to have the confirmation of the blow-by-blow daily stuff that the mainstream gives you, or certain shortwave broadcasters give you, because I tend to avoid the mainstream media, which is there simply to put you into a state of panic and subservience. And when the shortwave picks up on the same daily themes of what they’re doing to you today, and going to do to you tomorrow, it becomes overwhelming, which is it’s object. It’s meant to render you incapacitated basically through fear.
Jackie: And it does.
Alan: And it does. Yeah, I mean, some people have phoned me up and they’re immobilized. And I’ve told some of them to slow down. One I told to shut up. I had to, because he was almost screaming with neurosis. And I said, who do you listen to? He told me who he listened to, on the shortwave. And I said, you know, this is what psychological warfare is intended to do. It’s meant to give you a nervous breakdown, so as you cannot function. And I said, look, has anything nasty really happened to you yet? He said, no. I said, well, what’s your problem? So, that is how panic and fear and terror, can incapacitate someone, if you get hooked on some of these superstars.
Jackie: Well, and this is why I wanted to bring it up, because we don’t do that type of broadcasting. And I wanted our listeners to understand, hopefully, the value of the information that they’re getting. It is more of an overview. It isn’t all the nitty-gritty, but see, I can attest to what you’re saying, because back in 1992, somebody gave me a copy of the Machelvani Intelligence Advisor. I think it was about 12 pages, Alan. I was in my office. I owned my business at the time, and I was working late. And so, I opened it up and read it, and I sat there paralyzed. And then I subscribed to it, got my first one, and went out and sat on the deck at home and read it, and I couldn’t do anything for the rest of the day, because I thought, ‘Oh my God. What the heck do we think we’re doing? It’s hopeless. It’s gone too far.’ And folks, that’s what I wanted to bring up before the end of this broadcast, just so you know, why we don’t, because it’s all symptoms of the whole bigger picture. We’ll be back with you, Monday. And I hope you have a lovely next four days. And I hope you will join us on Monday next.
October 4th, 2005
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Tuesday and it is the 4th of October in the year 2005. …And tonight, we have a guest. Alan Watt is with us. I called Alan today. I was thinking that probably tomorrow night would be our last, and we could not end this broadcast without having Alan Watt back one time, at least one time with us, because regardless of the some times that he and I had our differences. We don’t always agree on everything. None of us ever do. But there can be nothing that could diminish the information and the time and the love that Alan has given. And because it is love. It is done out of love. His mission in his heart is to enlighten and awaken as many people as possible. In every single broadcast we’ve done, Alan has done it on his dime from Canada. And truly, he’s brought us out of the Dark Ages. He’s brought us out of the forest, so that we get a chance to see the trees a little bit. So, I’ve invited Alan to be here with us tonight. And Alan, thanks for being here.
Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure. …And I do have three books for sale, going through the history, including some of the ancient, ancient history of this system. And I go through it in volumes 1, 2, and 3. I tie it in with the money system, present and past, going back thousands of years. And the agenda is all there basically. And also, if anyone wants one or all of these books [see ordering information on transcript].
Jackie: …Alan, so we have little time left to share whatever it is that you would like to share with our listeners. I’ve got three days next week. I have some thoughts in mind, that I would like to do. But, this is, tonight is yours.
Alan: Well, I think really, for those that understand that there’s nothing new in this system, they’re simply upgrading their system, that’s what we live in. It’s their system. It’s not ours. So there’s no real reason to suddenly panic. Those things which we’re afraid of are generally change. And what we don’t realize, is, as I say, they’re changing from that to which we’re familiar, which we think is our way of living. But really, even that lifestyle was given to us as well. Our routines were given to us. Our training at school for certain jobs and so on. Even marriage, pensions, retirement, everything. That was all part of their old system, and we’re post-industrial now, so they’re upgrading it to the next step. When you realize this has been going on for thousands of years, step by step, including the wars and the reasons for the wars, and the money men behind it always, you know, then you realize nothing has really changed. The techniques they’re using are the same. They have incredible sciences at work, because they never allow the general public to have up-to-date knowledge of what they really have at any time, you know. And they’re so far ahead of what you’d even imagine as science fiction, that’s how they maintain their power. I have to laugh in a sense, when I watch the troops going into different countries, and sure enough, you’ll always see a new style of rifle, or the latest model this, or whatever, or the latest stealth bomber. And yet, all this stuff is obsolete, and it was obsolete before the second World War.
Jackie: Like you were saying, earlier today, when we talked, they’re carrying the guns and heavy, heavy bullets, and using gunpowder that’s been around forever.
Alan: Yeah. And so really, this is to make us believe, you see, that this is the latest, and that’s what they have, but all of that stuff is obsolete. It’s us that must be kept in the dark, you see. It’s one reality for the general population, another one for the CIA, and another one for the boys above them. There are always three realities on the go at the same time. It’s almost like three computer programs running independently, all fed the same data, but the second level is fed more and the third level is fed even more. So, that’s how our reality is. And we do know, we all know what’s coming down. The changes are not hidden.
Jackie: We just don’t know how they’re going to pull it off, Alan. For example, you know, 9/11. And then, you know, they have geared us to expect another “terrorist attack” and then they, it’s a “natural disaster”. And last, this past week, the Discovery Channel has been evidently playing, and they played it more than once, this is a three hour long thing called ‘Super-Volcano’. And it’s all about Yellowstone, and how it’s about ready to blow. I’ve been reading articles about this for quite a while, you know, from the internet. But they’ve already said that if this happens, it will disrupt the economy of the entire world. So, you know, Katrina, first 9/11, then Katrina and Rita, and now they’re, now, see, they’re evidently, this is a big thing to prepare people. And then, maybe they’ll surprise everybody and have a terrorist attack, again. See. Because, that’s basically what people, and isn’t it telling that they can get us into that mode, where we’re actually expecting.
Alan: Well, that’s what it’s about.
Jackie: Because they said it, yeah, it’s going to happen. We don’t know.
Alan: We’re being trained.
Jackie: We don’t know when or where, but we do know it is going to. It’s only a matter of time, and it’s going to be much worse than 9/11.
Alan: That’s right. And so, see, they’re the shepherds, and again, we’re the sheep. And for the last century or so, we’ve all been led into the same pasture everyday and we graze, and then they drive us back. But now we’re getting driven into another pasture, you see. So, we’re being trained to go into the next pasture.
Jackie: And we say the prayers. The Lord is my Shepherd, he leadeth me into green pastures, he restoreth, my cup runneth over, your rod and your staff comforts me. And, you know what, Alan, I was thinking of this a couple of days ago. What in the world is the rod? The staff, that you said is for the sheep, because they’re so stupid, that if they get into a corner, they don’t have sense enough to back out. So, they use the crook there to pull them out. What is the rod for? Is it to whack them with?
Alan: That’s right. That’s what law is based on. If you ask any, anyone who’s into the law system, the legal system, and government too, all laws are put out there with intimidation. That’s how people obey. It’s mainly through intimidation. And for the few who won’t be intimidated, they will actually use force.
Jackie: Yeah, so we say a prayer, and say thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Alan: Well, that’s for the abused victim, who loves their abuser.
Jackie: Yes. And I’m glad. Thank you for really bringing that into my mind, because we do have new listeners. And sometimes it’s something, certain things bear repeating. This is not to in any way invalidate or denigrate Jesus. But what they gave us, that he is the Shepherd. They say that he, excuse me, I’m having trouble spitting this out, obviously. He is quoted as talking about his lost sheep of Israel, and all that stuff, and I remember a long time ago, you said, I don’t think he ever said that. Because the sheep is the stupidest animal around. And he wouldn’t have called people sheep.
Alan: Yeah, and it’s only, I mean, sheep are domesticated animals. They’re not free animals, they’re domesticated. They’re specially bred to be domesticated.
Jackie: And sheered.
Alan: And that’s their function, is to supply their master with wool and meat. That’s it. There’s no other purpose for them.
Jackie: And then taking it back further, and of course, this is all stuff that you’ve already shared with us, but these are things that we would of, I would have never thought about. Not even knowing it, or not noticing it, the pictures of the ancient…
Alan: Pharaohs.
Jackie: The pharaohs with the staff in their hand, the crook.
Alan: Yeah, the crossed arms with, it looks like a little candy cane crook, because it’s a symbolic crook. It’s not the long one. But that’s what it represents. You know the kind you hang on Christmas trees?
Jackie: Oh, yes. Oh, I’ve done that a lot.
Alan: That sort of. So, he holds the short one in one hand, and his arms are crossed, because he’s an illumined man, and the crossed arms mean the illumined man. And he is the sun, in fact. And in the other one, he has the club, basically. And sure, that’s the whole idea. You intimidate with threat of force, and if that doesn’t work, you actually use force. And nothing has changed in the system, since that time.
Jackie: So, we see that the religions have so indoctrinated us, that we actually thank our keepers for the abuse that we get, in a sense. We’re not praying to them, of course, but, I remember, Alan, you were talking about the word, repent. Am I taking us on a track that you wanted to say something else?
Alan: No, carry on. I’ve got a train just passing by, so it’s hard to hear.
Jackie: Well, I remember you talking at one time about the word re-pent, and pent up, and how they used to pen them, and would you share that with our listeners, who didn’t hear that explanation.
Alan: Could you speak up again?
Jackie: Yeah, when you were, this was a long time ago, when you were talking about the word, repent. Is the train gone?
Alan: It’s just gone now, okay. The word was what?
Jackie: The word was repent. And about pent up and how they pent them up. Would you share that with our listeners that didn’t hear?
Alan: Well, the ancients loved hunting, and the modern ones still do. A lot of these big boys that we see behind the scenes, that appear, they love to go off to different countries and hunt. And in ancient times, even in Greek times, they’d often go along the coastline in boats, and they would get little peninsulas for instance, and they’d come in, like a five-pointed star, and work their way inwards, and they used nets to catch the people, and net them, basically. And those people became slaves. But that was a form of sport. And, of course, the pent is from the 5, number 5, the pent angle. And that’s where it really comes from, you know. So, when we’re repenting, we’re actually in a sense acquiescing to become slaves once more, you know. Willing slaves. But it’s nothing new. What amazed me, even looking at Sumer, and some of the major cities in Sumer were obviously bureaucratic, because they had no fields around them, so all the foodstuffs and so on came into them, but the frescoes on the walls were fascinating, because they showed you these young people, obviously very healthy and happy, and obviously nobility too, with hawks. You know they have the hawks on the wrist? And then you’d also see them on horseback, going after different animals and deer and so on.
Jackie: Is a hawk the same thing as a falcon?
Alan: Yeah, it’s a type of hawk for sport. And they had falconers even in the Middle Ages. The Normans brought that into England with them. And up until the 1800s, 1900s, that was still a popular sport with the nobility. So, you find the same MOs all down through history with the nobility that was there 5,000 BC, and of course, the Egyptian nobility were exactly the same. And if you look into the merchant banker class who lived in the Aegean Islands, and the historians give them the name, the Minoans, they also had exactly the same frescoes painted on their walls, with the hunting scenes and the sports and the falcons, and so on. So, then we see it, as I say, coming into Europe in the Middle Ages, with this Norman class, who took over, and still basically run the world yet, you know. They were a knighted nobility. And if you notice, even all your top United States famous people, like Kissinger and so on, Schwartzkopf, in fact, even the mayor of New York, after 9/11, they all went over to the Queen, and the Queen knighted them all. So, this is very important to them to be knighted, in England, by the Queen. Because, we’re dealing here with a religion that predates Christianity and most other religions, and it goes back to at least, at least 5000BC, that we’ve dug up so far, and no doubt, there’s much, much more of it to go on beyond that.
So, if we go into the histories of other countries, like India, they go back into millions of years. And they claim that this type of thing has been going on for millions of years. And I wouldn’t be surprised in the least, because the techniques of controlling the minds of whole countries are so perfect, and they always have been so perfect, that this was not a new science that they were picking up as they went along. They knew it from at least Sumer onwards, how to take over countries, how to introduce this thing called money, how to get people to marry young, to be a working class, who would then produce their goods, because these bankers were also the merchant class, and they owned the ships and the trading routes. So, they owned the whole system. It was a materialistic system, based on money. And once you have money, you can get a standing army. Without money, you can’t keep a standing army together. Once you have it, you send it off into the rural areas, and you conquer the peoples. And that is our history of the world. And right now, in fact, the US is finishing off the last part, the last few countries, who haven’t joined the World Bank and this system they call democracy, which has various definitions, if you look at it, you know. Actually, the definition of democracy is pretty well the same as the definition of Communism. By the Royal Institute of International Affairs’ own words, going back to the 1920s, and even earlier, when Cecil Rhodes was on the go, and then Milner, Lord Milner took over from Cecil Rhodes to create a world empire. He defined democracy for the Royal Institute of International Affairs. The CFR is the American branch of it, of course. And he said the definition of democracy is a world where the individual is subject to the majority. In other words, individual free will is a negative thing, and it’s unhealthy to the whole.
Jackie: But they refer to themselves as the majority, don’t they?
Alan: Well, they themselves don’t even classify themselves within that. They see themselves as a separate race almost, you know. We are just the people.
Jackie: Superhuman race.
Alan: Yes.
Jackie: We have to take a break here. And I’m going to request, I talked to one of our listeners today, and she said that the beginning of the broadcast last night was very clear, and then in her area, it just totally disintegrated, so she couldn’t hear a word. And I would just request a couple of calls giving us a reception report, if you would. Folks, we’ll be back, right after this.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: …Okay, Alan. I missed our spiritual message this evening. And I had it laying right in front of me here. And I would like to do that before we continue. This is from Matthew 5, beginning at verse 14, Jesus said, “Ye are the light of the world. A city that’s set on a hill cannot be hid, and neither do men light a candle and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick, and it gives light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your father, which is in Heaven.” Thanks, Alan.
Alan: I’d like to add to that little definition of democracy that Milner put out for this group actually that’s running the world. When they defined it, they said, every individual, because they’ll have certain rights, will also have a duty to serve the state. To serve the state. And that’s very, very important, because it puts the state, this entity, in another category, apart from the people. And therefore the people do not create the state. The state basically becomes your rulers. And you serve them. And that’s the definition that the current CFR branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs uses today. And it’s identical to the Communist definition.
Jackie: So, when they say the State, it takes people’s minds off people.
Alan: It does.
Jackie: The state is an institution of some type, and forgetting that there’s a hidden hand that controls those who are in the State, doing the dirty work.
Caller: Okay, Hello.
Jackie: Hello?
Caller: Okay, I can hear you a little bit. Yeah, I was going to say, you sound loud and clear, tonight. Very, very clear.
Jackie: Thank you, Storm. How about last night?
Caller: You know, a matter of fact, I just came in about ten minutes ago. Now, as far as last night, I didn’t get last night, because I was out.
Jackie: Okay, okay, thanks, Storm.
Caller: I will tell you this, something strange, is that, I’ll say this quickly. Early this morning, I was listening to Radio Netherlands. And at the very beginning of the broadcast, when they were talking about Turkey from the Netherlands, they came in very crystal clear for the first minute, and then approximately about 7:02 in the morning, Eastern time, that must be 11:02 UTC, okay, there was like a big fade in of distortion and interference, not jamming, but like an interference, almost like you would think it was the atmosphere. And all the sudden, about a half hour later around 11:30 or 11:27 UTC, that would be 7:27, UTC.
Jackie: Alright, hurry up, hurry up, Storm.
Caller: They started coming in again. And it’s the same type of similar thing that occasionally I hear on your show. But not tonight, and not that much last week.
Jackie: Okay. Thank you, Storm. Thank you.
Caller: I’m not sure whether that was the government or what. Maybe they want to keep out something with Turkey. I don’t know what that was about but it did seem suspicious.
Jackie: Thanks, Storm. Okay, bye-bye.
Caller: Okay.
Jackie: Alright, thank you, Storm. I was curious about last night, Alan.
Alan: It’s clear up here, too.
Jackie: Oh, that’s good, that’s real good. I’m glad to hear that.
Alan: But they’re using, of course, their technology, their jamming technologies and so on, because once they have the next big panic, FEMA will be using that, across the country. We saw it used when they went into Yugoslavia, and Bosnia. They flew aircraft. It was on the television. They flew special aircraft across the country that jammed every radio station, and television station, and they could also, from the aircraft, play their own propaganda programs directly into everyone’s television and radio.
Jackie: In other words, over-ride and interfere and intrude. Well, I understand that during Vietnam, the technology existed also, because my friend Mel worked in communications. And he said, they could clear a path. They could wipe out communications in any direction they wanted, so that they could send their own signal. That was Vietnam.
Alan: And so, especially, it’s so easy to interfere with shortwave, because shortwave depends on the ionosphere, which in part bounces signals off the ionosphere, so they can actually really play havoc with shortwave.
(Phone Rings)
Jackie: Hi, you’re on the air. Hello? You’re on the air. Gosh. Okay, nobody there. Alright, folks, we’ll forgo the phone calls, because there’s just something. We’ll just forgo the phone calls and thank you. I was just curious. Maybe, I can talk to somebody who was listening last night, somebody else, somebody not in Indiana, and maybe let me know. I was just curious. And I did not mean to interrupt this broadcast so many times. Today, when we were talking, Alan, as I mentioned to you, my thoughts are so much and so often on people, because on this broadcast we’ve talked about how important it is, if you can, get the heck out of the doggone cities. Etc. And, I do know that there are people, now, who are in cities, who really want to leave cities, and they don’t have the means to do it. And, of course, the economy is getting worse by the hour, not by the day. And so, therefore, my heart goes out to them, and mostly that they aren’t living in fear, and they aren’t living in some type of a box, if you would, feeling “doomed” or “hopeless” because they can’t get out of the city. Because, hell, rural cleansing is going on right now, under our noses. I don’t know how much time we have left, in the country. I wondered about rural cleansing, and how are they going to move people out of the country. Well, our energy costs are just going up, just horrendously. I had to go on budget for my heating gas bill, last year. And over the course of the year, it averaged out to $191. Now, you’ve got a good five or six months there, where that bill is around $40. (Phone rings) And, Hello, thank you, you’re on the air.
Caller: Yeah, hello. Yeah, this is something that I wanted to ask Alan Watt, and then I was going to hang up.
Jackie: Okay, make it very short, Storm.
Caller: Okay, yes. You asked about how people are going to like leave the country, or whatever. I understand there’s like some kind of detention centers around the country. What I was thinking is that, if they wanted to get people in these detention centers to pull off this global New World order…
Jackie: They’re doing it.
Caller: …what they could do is have a nuclear blast where the radiation comes from the air.
Jackie: Storm, excuse me. I’m sorry, Alan. He wants to ask a question, but he just talks about what he thinks. Actually, they’re doing it right now. All of those “evacuees,” they’re still living in those detention centers.
Alan: And they’ve done programs here in Canada. They’ve shown on television, a lot of, now, it could be to train us all, of course, which everything generally is. But they’ve interviewed lots of them who say they’ll never go back there. And of course, that was one of the objectives, was taking them out. We also have no idea how many have been removed out of there, and I certainly do not believe the figures they tell us for the death rate. I think it was far higher.
Jackie: Oh, of course.
Alan: And they’re really playing it down.
Jackie: Alan, how would they even know?
Alan: Oh, they would know. Oh, they’d know. In a place like that, there were so many people, especially in the poor areas, who were on welfare. They have records for everything, not just locally; they have back-up systems, probably all the way to the Feds. They know everyone, their numbers and so on, and who claims, who doesn’t, and who’s not claiming now. And believe you me, when FEMA moves people out, they don’t just ask your first name. They get everything from you. So, they know how many they’ve moved out and how many have died.
Jackie: One of our listeners called me last night, and had run into a gal from New Orleans, and said that her home was totally safe. There was a tiny bit, evidently, of wind damage, maybe some shingles or something. And she was moved out of her house at gunpoint. And she doesn’t know when she’s going to be able to go back. They evidently claimed that they were going to let people start coming back, and then of course, Rita came along. Now, she still can’t go back. She’s staying with friends in Pennsylvania.
Alan: Well, even Bush himself in one of his first speeches said, it will be a minimum of three years before it’s habitable again. And of course, I’m sure, just like the fire of London, Christopher Wren had the plans for the new, international London drawn up prior to 1666. They love three sixes there. And, luckily enough, along came the fire, and they could put his plans into motion. So I’m sure they had the same plans drawn up for the new city of New Orleans, a much smaller city, because the United Nations has said most of it will remain as wetlands, and that’s been their spiel for the last few years. Before it all happened, a good part of that city would be called wetlands. The new city, I’m sure, will be a small one for the refinery guys, for the new refineries, which the taxpayers will build for Halliburton.
Jackie: And for the elite, only.
Alan: Yeah, and a few, you know, gambling casinos and things like that.
Jackie: Yeah, but I mean, for anybody who’s living there, I believe at least at this point, that’s their plan. And there have been articles. There was a Wall Street Journal article, I think it was, Old Line Families Plan the Rebuilding of New Orleans. And they’ve said, it’s not going to be black and there’s not going to be those suppressed people, either it’s going to be white, or we’re out of here. And they are already laying out their plans. Donald Trump had….
Alan: Oh, I’m sure all this was, as I say, designed before that hurricane hit.
Jackie: Well, think about it. This humongous building that Donald Trump is supposed to be building, that couldn’t have happened. They couldn’t probably engineer and design a building like that in four weeks.
Alan: No, even the surveyors couldn’t go over it in that time.
Jackie: Exactly. And then the mayor there, what the heck’s his name. He’s saying that real estate is real hot right now, in New Orleans. [Call] You’re on the air.
Caller: Yeah, but what about if the people have guns?
Jackie: I’m sorry about that.
Alan: But that’s the whole thing there.
Jackie: Well, they’ve taken the guns away from the people anyway.
Alan: They have been doing that down there. They showed that on the television here.
Jackie: Yes, they did.
Alan: They were going door to door. But that’s standard.
Jackie: Did you know that there was a judge that put a hiatus or a stop, well at least ordered a stop on the confiscation of guns there? I’ve only got one article on it. It was a news article. And I don’t know if they listened to that judge or not. It’s been, there’s not been a lot of news coming out of New Orleans lately.
Alan: No. Once FEMA took over, they did admit that all subsequent news coming out of there would be controlled by FEMA. So, it’s almost impossible to get any truth out at all, at least the whole truth. So, that’s the whole thing, with FEMA, it is all about containment and control. That’s what it was set up to do. So, this is the first big exercise in containing and removing on mass, Americans. But it won’t be the last one. It’s interesting too, that the Hurricane came in, and there’s a huge bridge going across the river there. The Pontchartrain, which is the French for the Bridge of Katherine, you know. And then, when you look where the hurricane came into Texas, you had, just south of Beaumont, you had SaRita, and I thought yeah, I guess we can always tell by the names they give them.
Jackie: Oh. Katherine, Katrina, and Rita. Please repeat that, Alan, right from the beginning.
Alan: The first hurricane, Katherine.
Jackie: Right, Katrina.
Alan: Or they called it Katerina, same thing. And it came in, and where it passed over was Pontchartrain, which in French means the Bridge of Katherine. They love bridges too, of course. But that’s the Bridge of Katherine. And then, Rita came in just north of SaRita.
Jackie: Sarita?
Alan: SaRita, yeah. Just south of Beaumont, Texas. So, you knew it was going to hit Texas. So, the next big one I think is to be called Stanley, and we’ll have to scour the map to see what state that is in, because I’m sure that’s how they’re doing it. Ha, ha, ha. They love to put it right in our faces.
Jackie: Oh, they do, don’t they?
Alan: I’ll give you a good example. Canada, because Canada is a member of the commonwealth, the British Commonwealth, it still has this strange system of having a Parliament, and a Governor General appointed by the Queen. And they just appointed a new Governor General, and they gave her a Coat of Arms. The Coat of Arms, by the way, goes all the way back to Charlemagne, it was copied after that in fact. They swore her in, she’s the 27th Governor General, they swore her in on the 27th of September. The number of days, right through the year, to the 27th of September was 270, and when they were swearing her in, the ceremony took 11 minutes, and they showed the clock outside the Parliament building, exactly at 11 minutes past 11. Well, 27, 2 and 7 is 9. And then you have the 11 after it. It’s 911. They just keep showing this in our face all the time, you know. You couldn’t make this stuff up, you know. But they made a new Coat of Arms for her, and the lineage on the Coat of Arms depicts the line of Charlemagne.
Jackie: What is Charlemagne?
Alan: It’s the dynasty that supposedly came up through and eventually were appointed by the Catholic Church to force Christianity on the rest of Europe. So, he was the first officially Catholic appointed military leader and king. And, of course, the Knights Templars are heavily involved with Charlemagne and all this kind of stuff. But, yeah, he forced Christianity on behalf of Rome on the countries of Germany and France and a few other ones, at the point of the sword. And in behind him, came the money boys. In fact, Charlemagne, who was officially crowned by the Pope as the first Vatican sponsored king, Charlemagne set up his first bank, in what later was called Switzerland. And it’s called the Bank of Zion. And the River next to it is still called the River Sion. So the Priory de Sion, which is one of the high Templar groups, and still based in France, connected with Switzerland, and they move money around the world, that’s their job, and other stuff, goes back to Charlemagne. But it was interesting to see them making a coat of arms with the two bears and the five-pointed starfish of Charlemagne for this new Governor General. You know, plus all the mystic numbers they add into it. They do this all the time. There’s a whole language involved, every day, and the people don’t understand it, don’t even realize it’s going on. But that’s how open they are.
Jackie: What do you know about this new Pope?
Alan: They haven’t said too much about him. He was in the German Army during World War Two. There’s different versions of what he did in the German army. What you’ll find with most modern Popes for sure, is that they have to have the right lineage to get in there. That’s the bottom line.
Jackie: I’ve received quite a few emails on this Pope, and I’ve put them in a file to read, and haven’t read them. But if I’m not mistaken, I read that he was a Jew and became a Catholic.
Alan: It’s possible. It’s very possible. I think it was in the 8th century, the first Khazar was appointed, a Jew, was Leo the Red.
Jackie: Oh, yeah, the Khazar.
Alan: And even Ron Calli in the 1950s, Pope Ron Calli, he was Jewish. I mean, the Catholic Church is open to anybody that goes through the rituals, you know. And, to be honest, you see, all the religions were created by the same group, long ago. I don’t care if it’s Moslem or Christianity or Judaism, that’s your trinity all connected, you see. They all have a common base somewhere, a common connections, but they’ve all been used for the same purpose, which is to exploit the people, make them subservient, and bring in a materialistic system based on money and conquering other countries with armies, up to the present phase, where they’ll eventually blend them all in, back into an updated version, so the three will become one. That’s the real mystic meaning of the Trinity, in High Freemasonry.
Jackie: You mean the three religions will become one. Oh, it is, isn’t it becoming that.
Alan: And so that’s the key of making things change, by using the laws of nature, you must create opposites. And so, opposing forces fight each other to create the Third Way, which is the outcome or the synthesis. And without at least one opposing force, no change will happen. So, if you have three opposing forces, all apparently fighting each other, but the boys at the top are all connected, it’s the herd once again who are being trained into a new way of living. And that’s your trinity, you know. If you want to move sheep, you use two sheepdogs, especially. One dog, running at the pack, will make them move one way. However, if you don’t want them to go in exactly that direction, you have another dog, just across the way, but when they both move diagonally towards those sheep, the sheep go in a straight line to where you want them to go. Which is the sheep pen. So, once again, you have a trinity formation.
Jackie: Repent.
Alan: Repent, yeah. So, every group who’s fought each other, down through the centuries, has been used for completely different outcomes than the one they envisage at the time.
Jackie: Yes, that they envisioned.
Alan: So, we’re dealing here with a very complex chess game, where the people don’t even know that they’re on the chessboard. And they can’t see the hands that are moving them. But it really is a chess game, a very complex one.
Jackie: Okay, you know what. You were telling me today, and I wasn’t on the internet at all today. But you were telling me that they have been holding meetings in Colorado, or excuse me, Texas, and it’s a UN, and it has to do with water and septic systems.
Alan: They’re going…
Jackie: Alan, we just got our one-minute warning. Alright. Would you like to come back tomorrow night?
Alan: Sure, yeah.
Jackie: Well, you know, okay. We’ll do that. I’ve written this down. I would like to pick that up, tomorrow night, and folks, we will be back with you tomorrow. Thank you for being here. And Alan, thank you for being here.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: And ladies and gentlemen, my wish for you is peace and love, and I don’t mean that in any way to be trite. I mean it with all of my heart. We’ll see you tomorrow night. Good night. Good night, Alan.
Alan: Good Night.
October 5th, 2005
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Sorry, once again, for that delay. I kept dialing in and I wasn’t getting a ring. Nothing was happening. It’s just kind of ridiculous. Thank you for being with us tonight. This is Wednesday, and it would be the 5th, yes the 5th of October in the year 2005. And for those of you who haven’t been tuned in, I will just announce once again that as of next Wednesday, this broadcast will be going off the air. And it’s a necessity, folks, because we have not been able to bring the airtime bill down, and it keeps ever growing, and ultimately, as I’ve mentioned, this debt is mine. And I am not in a financial position, actually, even to pay what this is. So, I just cannot let it go on any longer. And I want to thank each and every one of you who have supported this broadcast. And as I’ve said, I know that you’ve done as much as you can do. And tonight, our guest, once again is Alan Watt. And Alan, thanks for being here tonight.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Our spiritual message, I want to share this. We were talking last night, you were talking last night about the religions, and the religions of the world. And I had talked about this somewhat on Monday night, although I have heard from several people who said that after I made the announcement that I was going off the air, they weren’t able to pick it up for whatever reason. Last night the reports were that the reception, shortwave reception was great. But this is about religion, in a sense, it’s about faith. “Faith is a state of openness or trust. To have faith is like when you trust yourself to the water. You don’t grab hold of the water, because if you do, you’ll become stiff, you’ll become tight, and you’ll sink. You have to relax. And the attitude of faith is the very opposite of clinging and holding on. In other words, a person who is fanatic in matters of religion and clings to certain ideas about the nature of God and the universe becomes a person who has no faith at all. Instead, they’re holding tight. But the attitude of faith is to let go, and become open to truth, whatever it might turn out to be.” That was written by Alan Watts. W-A-T-T-S. It’s titled the essential Alan Watts on faith. And our guest tonight is Alan Watt, not to be confused with the author of this little statement. Lots of Watts around, aren’t there, Alan?
Alan: There are a few, yeah.
Jackie: There are a few. I guess that’s quite a common Scottish name, is it?
Alan: It’s not too common, not too common.
Jackie: Okay, well. That is irrelevant. And last night, we were having a conversation, and I said, darn it, I wish we were having this conversation on the air. And you made a few notes of what you had been talking about, and I would like it if, I don’t know where you’ll begin with that, because our conversations do have a tendency to flow from one point to another. And then we get into something that is so relevant, and that is what happened last night, in the course of the conversation. Would you like to get started?
Alan: What exactly were we talking about?
Jackie: You said you were going to make notes, Alan.
Alan: I’ve got a whole pile of papers here.
Jackie: Okay, well, we were talking about people who, okay, where this started actually, we were talking about archeology. And I said, you know, that I had seen some, because we don’t know when we get these reports that archaeologists have discovered this, and archaeologists have discovered that. We don’t even know if that’s true, because we find out that everything that we’ve been told for the most part is a lie. And I remembered somebody emailing me, and they were skulls, different really weird looking skulls, that were allegedly found dug up. And I remembered this one, and you had seen it too, and I asked you what you thought about it, and you said that you thought it could have been an engineered, a genetically engineered, because of the size of the brain cavity in it, etc. Remember that? Well, that’s where it started. And you were talking about how people are bred for their psychological traits. And lacking certain emotions and certain, okay, can you pick that up?
Alan: You’ll find evidence that the breeding of people for specific functions was perfectly understood, just by reading Plato’s Republic. So, you’re going back 2,300-odd years. And Plato of course, like all of the aristocracy of Greece, had been educated in Egypt. That’s where they all went. And, so everything that he talked about in the Republic, came really from Egypt, which had already ruled the world for a few thousand years, the ancient world. And he goes into the methods of selective breeding for specific purposes.
Jackie: And we want to remember, excuse me, I just want to reiterate this for our listeners, that there were pharaohs, or maybe, I don’t know if all of the pharaohs, but they were white, not Egyptian, and some even had red hair.
Alan: Yeah, and they’ve found the wigs, of course, in the tombs, that they wore, the black wigs, made from the native people’s hair. And the males and the females of the aristocracy or nobility of Egypt and Sumer wore the black wigs.
Jackie: What do you think about Cleopatra? Was she one of them?
Alan: Well, Cleopatra was actually Greek. She came from the Ptolemy line, and of course Ptolemy was a General of Alexander, and he took over the reign of Egypt, and she was descended from the Ptolemies. So, yeah she was definitely white and from that type of class. But if you go back into this breeding program, Plato went through what they’d done with animals, just like today, if you want a domesticated dog for hunting, you know what kind to look at, the types of breeds. If you want one for a faithful pet, there’s a whole variety for that, so they all have specific traits. And if you want a guard dog, you know what type to go for. And it’s done by literally selectively breeding personality types together for size, strength and temperament, and that particular psychological trait that you’re after. And Plato went through that. And he said, we can do exactly the same with people. For the working class, he said, you don’t want highly intelligent people, but you do want strength. So you want them short, squat, if you like, muscular. And he went through the methods of simply selecting a male and a female, and interbreeding them, and then, taking their children, and doing the same all over again, until you had the desired outcome. He said, if you want tall ones for picking apples, you make them, you simply select the tall ones and keep interbreeding them. But it’s the same thing with psychological traits. That’s why they went to such incredible lengths for genealogies for rulers and kings and queens. You want people who have psychopathic traits in so much that they cannot feel empathy for others. So, that part of the brain which is developed in most people, it gives us our sociability, and our empathy for others. You can actually breed that out of them by selective breeding.
Jackie: And yes, and that you said has to do with different areas of the brain.
Alan: They knew in fact in Ancient Egypt what parts of the brain affected the types of emotion, the areas for taste, smell, and hearing and so on. They had that all mapped out. In fact, one of the pharaohs wrote one of the first medical books, and detailed all of this. So, this is well understood that certain parts of the brain had to do with what we call gifts, like skills in mathematics and so on. So, they could, by picking a male and a female who had similar qualities, either increase that ability, or if they wanted to get rid of a particular quality, like empathy, you wouldn’t want a soft ruler. You want someone who’s hard and cruel if need be. So, you simply breed a male and a female of similar temperaments, and then the same thing with their offspring, and then the same thing again, until you have the desired type. So, when they talk about keeping genealogies of nobility down through the ages, they’re not just talking about who their fathers or mothers were. They’re also keeping track of the qualities that they possessed.
Jackie: To know who they wanted to breed with who.
Alan: For specific types of qualities. And for nobilities of course, and kings and queens, you’ll find that they have all the temperaments of ego, typically psychopathic. They have tremendous ego, so they love to be praised. They love to have battles and so on, and come out on top. But they’re never very smart. They’re not what you would call terribly intelligent. So they in turn could be manipulated by the priesthoods that do all the selection, you see. And that’s why kings and queens have all the advisors around them. They’re supplied with the advisors just like today. It’s no different today. The advisors to presidents and prime ministers are not elected by any public. We’re never told where they’re trained. And yet we know that they’re all trained in the same global tactics, because they all know each other. They all push presidents and prime ministers to go along with the same agenda. So, someone appoints these particular people, and they’re trained somewhere, but we are told very little about them or their background. But they’re far more intelligent than the people that they advise.
Jackie: And they in turn are taking their directions from someone above them, yes?
Alan: Yes. In very high Freemasonry, way above your 33rd, they call these advisors the Grey Men. And the Grey Men, that pertains to the ones who are in touch with those of the Earth, the chess board, the black and the white strips or squares. So, they come to the world, the earthly world, and that’s the black, basically, but they also go to the light, the one that directs the whole thing. So they’re in between presidents and the real controllers. So, they’re called Grey Men. Kissinger and the Brzezinskis and these guys, these are the Grey Men. They know a lot more than presidents do. And they’re far more intelligent too.
Jackie: Getting back to those skulls, and then we’ll come back to this. Some of them were very weird. And see, so when I looked at them, it was fascinating, intriguing, but I also knew that I didn’t know if these actually were skulls that were dug up, or if somebody molded them out of clay. It’s hard to tell. But the one, explain the one that you saw and what you thought about it.
Alan: Well, you’ll actually see, there was a big debate, some years ago, on the paintings and architecture of Akhenaten, who’s a big player in high Masonry. They model the Moses story after Akhenaten, who brought in the one-God worship into Egypt. And I don’t believe he did, because he was way too young. He was only 15 when it happened. But in the paintings in the tombs and also in the frescoes they’ve found, his skull in the painting, and his wife, they have elongated skulls at the back, so the back of the head is elongated, and the children’s are too. And of course then the archaeologists stepped in and said, well that was just a change from one art style to the next. But they did unearth a lot of the skulls of Akhenaten’s family, and sure enough, they have these strange elongated, they’re real skulls. They’ve found so many of them in that particular lineage.
Jackie: Okay, well, the ones that I saw, you know, there wasn’t any, like this is from Akhenaten’s line or anything. But what does this indicate if there’s an elongated skull and it’s towards the back did you say, or towards the front?
Alan: Yeah, it’s high. The head is high. And the occipital lobe at the back is longer as well. So the whole cortex, really, in other words, there’s more brain cells there. There’s no doubt about it. And also, if you look closely at the skull, you’ll see that they’re more roundish towards the front. So it’s presumed that they were all given birth by Cesarean section. When you go through the birth canal, for instance, you know that the lobes, the parietal lobes slide over each other in the baby’s skull. And it’s always been debated how much damage that does. And so, a lot of the nobility, not just recent, but in ancient times…
Jackie: Unless a woman is, excuse me, I’m sorry, these thoughts come and I just spurt them out. If women are basically built for childbearing, but there are some women who are narrower hipped and narrower pelvis, where I would think that that would be the case. But would the woman who was really built for childbearing, there wouldn’t be that kind of damage, would there?
Alan: There would still be some, because that still would have to, they still slide, basically.
Jackie: What is it that slides, Alan?
Alan: Well literally, the skull has two plates you might say, two main plates that will slide over each other.
Jackie: That’s where that soft spot is at the top on a baby.
Alan: The fontanel, yeah. Anyway, getting back to this, these guys knew this back in ancient Egypt. And the strange thing was, when you look at the ones they’ve unearthed in the Aztec lineage, the nobility and kings and queens, they’re the same. They’ve got these same strange elongated skulls, which are also thicker than a normal human skull at the back, because again there was another debate in medicine, well, was this due to hydrocephalus, which can actually build up spinal fluid. But no, because you wouldn’t get a thickening of the skull. These skulls both in the Aztec rulership and in the Egyptian rulership, were both thicker at the back. So, it’s a strange trait, which could certainly have been done through intense interbreeding for those very abilities that those people actually possessed.
Jackie: I recall, this was, I think, during our first, very first broadcast for that five-week period in ’98, and I’ve relistened to the tapes, a couple of times now, but the second time around was extremely fascinating, because quite a bit of time had gone between. But I remember you talking about Akhenaten, and you said that he had basically over-ridden in a sense the priesthood, and he had brought in the one god, worship of one god, and that he was a very humble person. In other words, he didn’t have himself painted or sculpted as a big broad-shouldered, but he had kind of a, you know, squat body and pot belly and…
Alan: Big hips too. In fact, he had bigger hips than his wife.
Jackie: Wow. And you said that soon after he died, all of the temples that he had erected for the one God were destroyed and they went right back to the multiple god worship.
Alan: Yeah. It was a strange time period. As I say, he had to have been coached as to what to do, even with the theology to go along with this one-god worship. And the god, of course, was the sun. It was the sun he was talking about. And actually, the sun is a symbol of the light bringer or Lucifer. We have to remember that too. In all mystic religions it’s always the same. And he had, you’ll see pictures of Akhenaten and his wife, and from the sun comes these lines like almost like the lines cast from a ship. And at the end of it, you have the Ankh. And that’s what an Ankh is. That’s where we get the word anchor from. And the old Egyptian anchor was Ankh shaped, you see. It didn’t have the hook at the end, as it did in later times. So, that was the symbol of being anchored to the light bringer. And, but it wasn’t for everyone. It was only for a special class of people.
Jackie: Alan, has there ever been a time in the history of this world that you’re aware of, where people actually didn’t have a god that had, you know, human personalities and etc, or the sun. I’ve wondered to myself sometimes, did they worship the sun as representative of the one creator, given that the sun gives physical life on this earth.
Alan: Yeah. That was one way of looking. See, long before there were rulerships as we know them, you know, people lived in small communities, and everything had a magic to it, a natural magic, simply meaning a nature of life which they could not understand, but it was wonderful to observe. That’s what it meant. And so, they didn’t build up any theology about it, or dogma. But along came the priesthoods, who subverted all of this. And eventually, they had them trained in Egypt, and the Mayans did it too, and the Aztecs, that if this priesthood didn’t get up in the morning, and have enough gifts and money presented, then they wouldn’t perform the ceremony that would make the sun rise, you see. So the natural awe that people held for nature in general, for life itself, was subverted and taken over by very intelligent psychopathic types.
Jackie: The priesthood.
Alan: Who then used it against the people, and built up dogma and rules and regulations.
Jackie: And created nations.
Alan: That’s right. And made the people, turned the people into slaves.
Jackie: And turned the people into slaves and turned the people into warriors to protect the nation’s borders.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Now, you know when you first said that, those are concepts that, because, I don’t know that it occurred to very many of us, how did nations come about, and I didn’t necessarily buy into it. But it was an interesting thought, especially, when you, you know, explained the meaning of the word, international. It means inter, to bury, the nations. And yet, they in the writings of the elite, those who call themselves Jews, they say, that they were the ones that created the nations. And, of course, they weren’t the ones, but somebody asked me after that broadcast, and you were talking about what it was like before the priesthood was in control, or in areas where they got control. And that that was the most natural way of living. And somebody emailed me and said, is he insinuating that we all need to go back to the cave days? I said, maybe so. Maybe so, maybe not cave days, but…
Alan: Well, here’s a paradox. Here’s a paradox for everybody, and it’s the meaning of. See, the Bible, in the Old Testament, is allegory, is Masonic allegory. And everything, every story in it is an allegory for something else. Which is well understood by those near the top. And so Eden represents nature in its pure state. And if you’re not content with nature in its pure state, and you leave nature, and you put your faith in science, you see, because once you leave the place where everything is there that you need, and you become dependent on specialists, whether it’s a blacksmith or whatever, then there’s only one path from Eden, and it leads eventually to where we’re going in the future, actually now. It leads to the extinction of the human will, the human mind, and independent thinking.
Jackie: And in the villages, where there were clans and etc, they had toolmakers, people who seemed to be more gifted in that area. They had their healers, people who knew the herbs to use for medicine and etc. And their “holy men” or women, and these were women who took a lot of time alone for contemplation and not to coin a phrase, but spiritual enlightenment, so to speak. And so, it was all there, within the village. And each person had different talents. And it was all shared.
Alan: Yeah, yeah. Because the strength of the tribe depended on everyone being involved. No one went hungry, for instance. And they didn’t have the moneyed work ethic, a different type of work ethic, where the individual who accumulates has the right to dominate the rest. That didn’t exist. And in fact, up until the 1700s, in the highlands of Scotland, you’ll find that iron nails were still exchanged as a form of money. It was more important to them to have something that was useful. But of course, they had the rebellion then, and that was all arranged, because they had to destroy that old system. And they did. They cleared the highlands.
Jackie: The rebellion being a revolution.
Alan: Well, they sent over Prince Charles, who, he was over in France at the time. And they sent him over, and he led a revolution which failed. I think it was intended to fail. And everybody, no one knew, except him, I’m sure. And then, they used that as an excuse to clear the highlands, even though only a few clans took part.
Jackie: Would you hold that thought? We’re at the half hour. We’re going to take a break here.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, we’re back with Alan Watt, folks. You were mentioning the uprising in Scotland.
Alan: It was a handful of clans followed the Bonnie Prince Charlie, as they called him, Charles Stewart. And I lived in a place called Culloden for a while, where that last battle took place, and he led them there. He went off a couple of miles away, into a Culloden house, for the night, and left them on this bog, it was an actual bog, and they got up in the morning early because of the British army, and it was British, because there were Scottish regiments, southern Scottish regiments there too. So they were all arrayed with their cannon and firing away for about five hours before Charles gave the order to charge. And it turned out that Charles had scampered. He hadn’t even arrived on the battlefield, and he escaped back to France and then to Italy. So, they were left as a sacrifice. Interestingly enough, there’s a story involved with this, that tells you how the future is planned. It truly is planned. Because there was, in Scotland, you have these seers they call them. And one of them was called the Brahan Seer, who could see into the future. And the Brahan Seer lived in the 1500s. And I read the original book in a library, from the 1500s, and he did say that when he was passing what became Culloden, it was called Drumossie at that time, Drumossie Moor, he said, woe, for Drumossie Moor will be the death of the flower of Scotland, as he called it. And flower of Scotland is the young men. That’s what that means. And just before the battle, about a year before the battle, it was officially changed on the maps, that Drumossie Moor to Culloden, which is the culling of Odin, you see. Because the old clans still had Odin as their deity.
Jackie: The culling of Odin. Now, how long before this happened was this written that this Seer said this?
Alan: About 200-odd years. So, that’s how things are planned. We’re taught and trained and indoctrinated to believe that life, we just bumble along and politicians stumble through crises that they can’t foresee, and nothing can be further from the truth. Because, when you go into history, you’ll find very elite sects of people writing about the future, because they belonged to organizations which planned the future. And of course, you’ll find the whole globalization effort with all of what we now think of as the UN agendas, interfering with all phases of our life. You’ll find Cecil Rhodes and his Secret Society, and then followed up by Lord Milner, who then ran it with the Round Tables. They wrote about it, and Carroll Quigley documented most of it in his two main books, Tragedy and Hope, and he wrote another one, it was called The Anglo-American Establishment, where he gives you the names of the big players, the big families that are involved in this, and where they thought they could bring us. If you go into the writings of Lenin in the early 1900s, he said towards the end of the millennium we shall see a global society come into view. Lord Bertrand Russell said the same thing around 1920. So, these guys knew exactly the time lines that they were working on with five, ten, twenty, fifty, one-hundred year plans. And if you look into the United Nations today, they’re still working on those same types of schedules, with fifty and a hundred-year plans.
Jackie: I was doing some searching today on the internet, seeing if I could come up with that meeting that you were talking about, meetings that they had been having, UN environmental meetings in Texas, relating to water and septic and etc. And border region 20, is now called border 2012. Or border region 21, I guess it was. Whatever, it’s now 2012.
Alan: And right now, they’re having an Earth Summit in Alaska. And we know what happened from the last Earth Summit, it was a tremendous impact, on all our way of living with the environment and so on. So these things are ongoing, continuous, and actually, they’re speeding them up. But, as I say, Lord Milner and Cecil Rhodes and Lord Rothschild, and all these guys who helped set up the secret society that they formed. Again, it was a high Masonic society, with passwords and so on. They wrote about what’s happened in our lifetimes. They helped bring on World War II, and Carroll Quigley documents that very, very well, from the records of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, which the Cecil Rhodes and Milner group set up. And the American branch is called the CFR.
Jackie: And you can go back a hundred years to the protocols and it is so eerie what they said a hundred years ago, and how they were going to do what they were going to do, and how it has been done, even to the point of saying, we’re going to give the President the authority to declare war. Well, he’s never been given the authority other than by those advisors, who say, yes, you should do this, and yes you can do it. But that is happening today.
Alan: Well, even the New American Century document that was published in the ’90s and drawn up by Wolfowitz and Cheney and that bunch, and that was a private organization at that time, they had the whole war, which countries they were going to invade, beginning with Afghanistan, and then Iraq, and then Iran and Syria. So they had all the countries mapped out in advance. And then they went and did it. So, sure. And then Brzezinski’s book came out, called The Grand Chessboard, in the late ’90s. And he said, we need something on the scale of a Pearl Harbor situation, to motivate the American public behind us for those countries we wish to go to war with. And lo and behold, things always seem to happen in their favor.
Jackie: Yes, and then there was Kissinger. I watched and listened to this man, within a couple of hours of 9/11, and he said this is an attack just like Pearl Harbor, and we need to address it in the same way.
Alan: Yes. And immediately too, Brzezinski was on television saying we should go to war with Iraq, you know. And you know, most people today, they’ve done polls in Canada and the States, and they published them in the newspapers here, most people in the US think now, because of all the propaganda by the media, they’ve forgotten that Afghanistan was supposed to be the hiding place for the Al Qaeda, and they’ve come to believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for the attack. Even though I’ve got it on videotape during the inquiry where George Bush said, he says, No, I never said that we were attacking Iraq because Saddam had anything to do with blowing up the towers. He said, I went into Iraq, he said, because the world’s a better place without him. So, you know, but the public truly have been brainwashed by retrospective propaganda by the media to believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible.
Jackie: Well, I recall, maybe that was a process, because I can remember them saying, first of all it was Afghanistan, because that’s where Osama Bin Laden was hanging out. And they had to go in there and find him and the terrorists. And the next thing you know, Saddam Hussein was harboring terrorists.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Now, Al Qaeda was not associated with Bin Laden, was he?
Alan: Well, the Al Qaeda was a term that the CIA gave them. And of course, the CIA had formed and sponsored and funded and trained these groups, when Afghanistan was occupied by the Russians. So they trained them and formed them to do what they did.
Jackie: Yes, Osama Bin Laden was a CIA asset.
Alan: That’s right. And he’s a member of the nobility of Saudi Arabia.
Jackie: And for any newer listeners, Osama Bin Laden’s family was very closely connected and in business with the Bushes.
Alan: And they did documentaries on the CBC on that. In fact, on the very day that the towers went down, Bush Sr was at a meeting with the Laden family.
Jackie: Yes. And they were flown safely out of the States, I understand.
Alan: That was the only aircraft allowed to fly the following day.
Jackie: Yep. And then Osama Bin Laden was the bad guy.
Alan; That’s correct. It’s just amazing how they play these tricks with us.
Jackie: Yes. I’d like to bring this up a little bit to closer to today, if we could. Because something that I’d like you to share, if you would, with our listeners, well, I had a call from Jerrie in Wisconsin, and she was very interested, when at the end of the broadcast last night, we were talking, just briefly about rural cleansing. And the one thing, and I will say this once again, because I couldn’t understand. I didn’t doubt that they intend to move people out of the country, into the cities. And I’ll tell you what really clinched it for me, was that, in the Old Testament, after they took all the people’s grain and made them pay for it, and then created a depression, and then they had no money, so they had to give away their flocks to the pharaoh, and finally they sold themselves and their children into slavery. And it says right in there that Joseph gathered the people up from the country and took them into the cities. And, anyway, I couldn’t figure out how are they going to do this, you know, just say, okay, you can’t live here anymore. Well, now we’re experiencing rural cleansing. Besides the rewilding, they’re already getting their playgrounds ready, but here in the rural areas, first of all, we have rural electric, rural gas, and there are all these, oh, we can’t make any money. For example my heating bill is natural gas. And Pennsylvania is natural gas rich. In fact we’re a natural gas pocket where we live. And yet, they keep taking these hikes, of course. Last year, it got to the point where I had to go on the budget plan, and it was, it budgeted out to $191 a month throughout the year, when during the summertime my bill was running maybe $27 to $38 a month. So, I got close to $400 in some months. I received a notice from the gas company that according to my usage last year, the budget plan for my monthly will go up to $247 a month. And when I called them, basically, I got the same story that I did the first time I called about this. Oh, well, we can’t make a profit, it’s against the law. Well, then why are the rates so high? Well, it’s our suppliers. We get our gas from all over the country. I said, what about Pennsylvania? Why don’t we get it here? It must cost bukoo tons of money to pipe gas from states all over this country. And I have to go to the Energy Commission, or something like that, in order to get answers to that. But, so, our costs of electricity have risen. We took a rate raise, she said, in September, and there’s going to be another one in December. And the electricity has gone up. And they are raising our property taxes every single year. And of course that’s happening at a local level. And it doesn’t matter if people swarm these county commissioners, township supervisors, they do it. They just absolutely do it. And I still think that a damn good, excuse my vernacular, tarring and feathering, and I don’t mean scalding somebody with hot tar. But it seems like it has to stop some place. But then you look at the prices of gasoline for the cars, and so, in the rural areas, I’ve heard people actually talking about maybe not being able to afford to keep their jobs because the gas that it’s going to cost them to get to their jobs, they’ll wind up making nothing. And I suddenly thought, it’s rural cleansing.
Alan: All this was discussed in the Kyoto conference. And they reiterated really what’s been said before by the UN many times, that they want to bring North America back to the energy consumption of the 1960s. And that’s what they’re doing. This is all to do with the Kyoto.
Jackie: And I saw an article about bicycles and how many hundreds of thousands of people, there have been a few million, I guess, that are switching to bicycles. I have an article here from the 1950s, a newspaper article or a report. It could have been a report on a political agenda, that they intend to get the people out of their cars and driving, riding bicycles. And here we are.
Alan: China is the model state for all of this, but what China or the main cities there don’t get is lots of snow, you know. And they won’t let us use spikes on our bicycle tires here, because it churns up the road, you see. So, I guess we’ll be skating to work, maybe, or skiing, maybe skiing to work.
Jackie: And we had a conversation, quite a few weeks ago. One of our listeners here in Pennsylvania was telling you that in his county and it’s actually a county right next to this one, it was a road, that was not really heavily traveled. One accident occurred on that road about seven years ago, or one accident in seven years, and yet they’ve lined the highway for miles with guard rails. And what you kind of figured out, you said, you know, because they’re talking about these all-terrain vehicles or the SUVs.
Alan: That’s right. I used to wonder why on earth, the SUV, they’re attacking so much. Then you realize, when you look at the recent events in New Orleans and in Texas.
Jackie: Relocation, yes.
Alan: Everyone has to stay on the same highways. They don’t want people wandering off. So, whatever is coming down the pike, they don’t want people with the ability to drive off the road through the country, you know.
Jackie: Because the guard rails aren’t on any particular slopes.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And how many miles did he say this guard rail went?
Alan: I don’t know, but it was just the fact that it was done so quickly for no real reason. Local governments don’t spend money like that. In fact, generally, when it’s something that’s necessary, it’s hard to get them to act at all, but this wasn’t necessary, so there’s other reasons behind it. And I think whatever is coming, they’re going to want people staying on certain roads as they herd us all into where we’re supposed to go.
Jackie: Yeah. Well, it occurs to me, we could have an “unnatural disaster” here in the area, where they say, okay, we have to get you out of here for your own safety. And it does make sense that those SUVs would easily be able to drive off a country road, through a field, even through light woods if they’ve got trails, and they don’t have to stay with the pack, with the herd.
Alan: That’s right. And you know, in New Orleans, I don’t know if the public are still aware, they still have road checks all over the place. Every so many miles, you come up to roadblocks. And you show your ID and all the rest of it. That’s still going on, right now.
Jackie: I told you, I mentioned last night, about the lady that was here with friends. Not here at my place, but in Pennsylvania, and she tried to go back, if I recall, and she was turned away. And she doesn’t know when she can go back. And her home wasn’t even flooded, but she was ousted at gunpoint, and I really would love to know what is happening in New Orleans, or in that area. I’m not asking for calls this evening, but listeners who might have, because, Alan, it’s been quiet.
Alan: I know. It’s like they dropped it all together.
Jackie: I know, but usually on the internet, there are reports from people, you know, people who lived in the area or etc. And I still get a slew of emails, and those I pull up when they come in. Those are the ones that I want to take a look at. And it’s just been so quiet, that you just don’t know what’s been going on there.
Alan: No, I know. So, it’s a huge training exercise for sure, for the military and the police and the multi-jurisdictional task force. They’re all one now. One fraternity they were called on the main media here. One brotherhood is another term they used on the CBC.
Jackie: The brotherhood of police?
Alan: Police and military. International brotherhood of police and military. That was said.
Jackie: They have had for a long time, and this is so amazing, when you think how slick they are. They have the, let’s say a county association of police. Police chiefs. They’ll have then the state. Then they’ll have the national association. And the international association. And they have the international association of mayors.
Alan: And they all are international, which means they’re registered with the United Nations. And they have their own publications that are sent around to the police chiefs all over the world. And they promote the agenda. And if they promote the agenda they know that they not only stay in their job, they’ll get well rewarded for it.
Jackie: Well, you know, I read a book, and it was a very intriguing book. It’s been a few years ago. And it followed this one particular police chief and he went from one state, Alan, to another. He kept showing up in other states. Very corrupt. Very evil. And he would leave after things would get so hot, and then the next thing you know, he’s a police chief in another state someplace.
Alan: I’d like to say though, I tuned in one Sunday, through the shortwave, I was scanning the shortwave, and the FM stations in New Orleans have got together because of the damage, so they’ve got together as an amalgam, a temporary amalgamation, and they’re broadcasting on shortwave at certain times during the day on 15.825. And the last one that I listened into, it was the reporters and the media, from those stations, getting an update from the FEMA representatives there. So, you get it live as it happens on 15.825.
Jackie: And it’s various times throughout the day?
Alan: Yeah, the rest of the time, it’s religion, but then it comes in, and it will tell you. It’s called WWL, that’s one of the FM stations. URBC is the other one. And there’s another one. There’s three of them together, in fact, but they’re broadcasting on the shortwave, and that’s where you get the news from, straight from there.
Jackie: Yeah, but do you think it’s actual real stuff you’re getting?
Alan: That’s what the people in that area are receiving themselves on their FM stations. They’re simultaneously broadcasting it on the shortwave.
Jackie: But why would we think that they’re getting the truth, Alan?
Alan: Well, I know. I know. In fact, that’s what they did show you, it was a question-answer thing. So you heard the answers that FEMA were giving to the press. And it’s up to the individual to suss it out, sort of thing. But it’s a huge exercise with FEMA totally in control.
Jackie: Alright. …And Alan, we’re just about out of time. We do have next week coming up. I’m going to be talking to Darren Weeks, our webmaster, and I would like to invite Darren to come on with us, next week, for one or two days. But I’m thinking, it would be appropriate, as much time as you’ve given, and as much enlightenment that you’ve brought to us, to invite you to come on Wednesday night, which would be our last broadcast night. If you would like to do that. …Okay. Folks, we’ll be back with you, Monday. And thank you for being here, and Alan, thank you for being here.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Good night. Good night, folks. And God bless you.