The Spiritual War Within: Exploring Consciousness, Truth, and Inconsistency
Cutting Off the Head of the Monster
The conversation opens with a critical analysis of authority and the mechanisms of control. A quote is shared—originally from Alan Watt—describing how the real power behind the so-called “bully boys” in uniform lies not with them but with the hidden hands directing them. Policemen are described as “robots” who serve a central command, but who themselves are not the source of the true threat. Once the leadership—the metaphorical head of the monster—is removed, the system falls apart.
This understanding leads into a deeper discussion about spiritual warfare. The concept introduced is that real change stems not from physical confrontation, but from collective spiritual will. When people operate on the same wavelength, willing a different reality into being, they engage in the true war: a spiritual battle that predates and underlies all material conflict.
The Force Within: Our Spiritual Nature
Alan Watt, as paraphrased and quoted by the host, emphasized the presence of a spiritual force within each individual. He asserted that this inherent consciousness is what the elites fear most. For centuries, mystics, gurus, and religious architects have known of this force, and systems of control have been engineered specifically to suppress awareness of it.
Materialism is used as a trap, keeping the masses focused on survival, consumption, and worldly gain. This fixation prevents people from accessing their true nature and participating in the higher, spiritual reality where transformation begins. According to the host, when even a small group of people rise above this material conditioning and align with spiritual truth, the false structures of power begin to crumble.
A Message of Empowerment vs. A Message of Despair
The host then addresses a troubling contradiction. While Alan Watt had previously affirmed the divine spark in every human being, he later expressed a more restrictive view—stating that not everyone has spirit, and that spirit must be called and may not always come. This departure from the earlier message of universal spiritual endowment caused concern for the host and listeners alike.
What makes this contradiction particularly significant is the reverence many listeners hold for Alan Watt. The host acknowledges that Watt has become a de facto spiritual guide for many. As such, his words carry considerable weight, and when he speaks of spiritual inaccessibility or cosmic exclusion, people internalize it. That leads not to empowerment, but to fear and hopelessness.
The host, Jackie Patru, reaffirms her own belief: we are one with our Creator. The communication with our source is within each of us and does not require intermediaries, rituals, or saints. That inner connection is not reserved for a chosen few—it is the birthright of all.
Responsibility and Public Dialogue
Because Alan Watt was not a one-time guest, but a recurring voice on Sweet Liberty, the host felt it necessary to address these spiritual inconsistencies openly. She expressed a desire to have this conversation on the air, not in private, because the matter concerns the audience directly. However, she also made it clear that this would not be an ongoing debate or recurring segment. The goal was simply to raise awareness and invite discernment.
The host also revisited commercial announcements and listener support information before returning to the heart of the issue: the contradiction between universal spiritual presence and selective spiritual access.
Revisiting Reincarnation and Timing
Another point of contention was a comment Alan made regarding reincarnation—specifically, that individuals only get ten lifetimes. Additionally, he had stated that for those just waking up now, it’s too late. The host found these statements deeply troubling. In a world where people are just beginning to question the system and seek truth, such fatalistic declarations could cause despair and discourage sincere seekers.
She contrasts this with an earlier, more uplifting message Watt had shared: that stepping out of the worldly system is the beginning of spiritual awakening. That hopeful vision had inspired listeners to pursue inner growth. Now, the conflicting message was sowing confusion.
The Journey Back to Spiritual Consciousness
The host reaffirmed her belief that the journey back to spiritual truth begins the moment we start asking questions and seeking answers. Though she admitted that not all of us might get “hundreds of chances,” she also emphasized that it’s never too late to start. When we ignore that still small voice inside us—that intuitive knowing that arises every time we act unkindly or selfishly—we delay our growth. Yet each moment offers a new opportunity to listen, to love, and to return to spiritual alignment.
She reminded listeners of Jesus’ words: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself. This, she said, is the highest commandment—not religious legalism or fear-based obedience, but compassion, unity, and love.
The Danger of Withholding Spiritual Truth
In closing this segment, the host returned to the issue of spiritual truth being withheld under the pretense that “people aren’t ready.” She strongly disagreed with this approach. If something is true, it should be shared—not hidden away out of fear that it will be rejected or misunderstood.
She pointed out the irony of being told not to criticize religions when her and Alan’s previous conversations had frequently exposed religion as a man-made construct of control. The idea that spiritual truth should now be silenced to avoid offending religious sensibilities felt inconsistent and disingenuous.
The discussion is ongoing, and this issue of contradictions—between empowerment and disempowerment, between spiritual truth and religious dogma—remains unresolved. But the host has made her stance clear: the truth is written in our hearts, and we know it when we hear it.
Stay tuned for the next section of this important conversation as we continue exploring the nature of spirit, truth, and personal responsibility in a world shaped by deception and awakening.
Reconciling Differences: A Spiritual Crossroads
As the final segment of the broadcast unfolded, Jackie Patru addressed a moment of tension and division that arose during a previous episode—an “impasse” between herself and Alan Watt. What began as a difference in philosophical perspective became a catalyst for deeper reflection on spiritual truth, religious belief, and the purpose of their shared platform.
The Value of the Message
Jackie emphasized that the message shared on Sweet Liberty is not about promoting one doctrine over another, nor is it intended to belittle anyone’s religious convictions. Rather, it is about offering listeners something meaningful, something that resonates with their inner truth. She reiterated that the comments she shared—specifically those touching on the nature of the spirit and creation—were not her own fabrications but reflections of previous conversations aired openly, including private insights Alan had shared with others.
Her concern was not simply about airing differing opinions, but about the impact such differences could have on listeners. She received emails from people feeling hopeless and wondering whether resistance to worldly control was futile. Her response was clear: no, we are not meant to “roll over and play dead.” Instead, we must act according to the divine guidance within each of us.
One-on-One or One-to-Many?
Jackie questioned the notion that profound truths should only be shared in private, one-on-one exchanges. She stressed that if even one person was ready to hear these truths, then the message had merit and deserved to be broadcast. The disagreement, then, was not rooted in doctrine, but in method and timing. Alan had spoken to “hundreds,” but Jackie maintained that this still excluded many who might be ready, or in need of, the message.
The Ancient Mystery Religions and Racial Origins
Jackie revisited an older broadcast from August 31, 2004—later replayed in November—that explored the origins of humanity, specifically referencing the ancient mystery religions and ideas about a so-called “super white race.” The discussion touched on legends of albino-like beings who were the original creators of physical bodies, a view tied to esoteric belief systems rather than mainstream history.
Alan asserted that these beliefs were part of the mystery religions, including the idea that certain beings were cast to Earth and that the world has gone through many epochs of control attempts by these entities. Jackie clarified that, at the time, she understood Alan to be explaining these beliefs, not endorsing them. She made a point to distinguish between sharing ancient myths and accepting them as truth.
Creator Within vs. Creator Outside
A major theme that emerged was the nature of the Creator. Jackie firmly stated that the Creator is within all things—not a distant deity who intervenes sporadically, as some mystery religions suggest. The belief that the Creator “left the world running like a clock” implies separation, and she rejected that. For Jackie, the Creator is present in all life, in every atom and breath. That divine consciousness is in plants, animals, the air—everything.
She chAlanged the idea that there could be a war between beings and the Creator. If the Creator is truly all, how can anything be separate enough to be at war with it? She highlighted that many ancient religions portray the Creator as a masculine figure who comes and goes, a portrayal she sees as inconsistent with the universal, omnipresent source of all being.
Religion vs. Spiritual Truth
Jackie drew a clear line between religion and spiritual truth. Religions, as she reiterated, are created by man. Whether it’s ancient Brahmin beliefs or Judeo-Christian traditions, they are systems built to frame the divine in human terms—often distorting or concealing deeper truths in the process. Her frustration lay in the way these systems can mislead or diminish our direct connection to Creator.
She also brought attention to a controversial idea previously mentioned by Alan—that Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament, might actually be Lucifer. Jackie didn’t dismiss the notion outright but rather pointed to a broader issue: the confusion between religious mythology and true spiritual understanding.
A Closing Reflection
Jackie closed this emotional and intellectually rich segment with a sense of regret, but also a quiet acceptance. The disagreement between her and Alan was unfortunate, but perhaps necessary. It highlighted a deeper divergence in their approaches and beliefs. While she valued their collaboration and considered Alan a friend, she recognized that their spiritual paths had diverged.
Ultimately, Jackie left her audience with a powerful takeaway: do not be deceived by the lies of religion. Each person is one with the Creator, capable of truth and guided by an inner compass. The task is not to adhere to ancient dogma, but to awaken and act in alignment with the divine truth that resides within us all.
This deeply personal and philosophical exchange serves as a reminder of the chAlanges inherent in exploring profound truths in a public forum. But it also reinforces the value of open dialogue, even when it brings discomfort—because through it, listeners are invited to think, question, and ultimately, remember who they truly are.
Jackie going Solo without Alan Watt
Is it on?
Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Wednesday. It is October 18th. In the year 2006.
And I’m with you live again tonight, folks. I’ve had programs, later programs, that we played for you the last few weeks because of a cold that I had. And of course, as many of you know, Alan and I, Alan Watt, came to a bit of an impasse. On the last two programs that we did. I’m going to talk about that tonight. I really wouldn’t want to. Although my phone’s been loaded. And the emails that I’ve been getting. I feel that I must. At least answer the question. To answer some of your questions. Because I’m sure there are some of you who have questions that they haven’t written in yet. And they haven’t called in yet. Let’s do the spiritual message first. And then we’re going to begin. I was, I wish I could have someone with me tonight. To have a story. To take a given. That’s what I’m held to. I did this broadcast mostly myself. I had gestures.
At some point in time. From time to time But I did the broadcast myself And often I would have something planned for the evening I would go to the studio And a thought would come into my head I would search the files For papers That I wanted to use to share What it was that came into my head And And I have very much enjoyed Most of the Stories That Alan and I have had on the air Anyway Let me get to this spiritual message People, this is from Matthew It is Matthew 5 Begin at verse 14 These are words written in red And are words introduced to Jesus The man that we know as Jesus He said You are the light of the world A city that sits upon a hill cannot be kept And the men neither light a candle And put it under a bushel But upon a candle And it gives light to all that are in the house Let your light so shine before the men That your father That you may speak Let your light so shine before men That they may see your good works And glorify your father that sits in the hill
And there’s one more that I want to do here I’ve done this many, many times I love this This is in 1 John 1 John It’s in the back, towards the back of the New Testament It’s 1 John verse 4 Or, unusually, chapter 4 And it starts here in verse 4 You are God’s, little children You are God’s, little children And have given them over For greater is He that is in you Than He that is in the world And then We go on to verse 7 Verse 7 Believer Let us love one another For love is of God And everyone who is loved is born of God and knows God
And people I’m really I’m not comfortable tonight
I want to tell you that Because I’m not here I didn’t come tonight To To To argue Or to denigrate Or to argue with Alan Watt But there are questions that I hoped,So I hoped that he and I could do it together Because of questions that people have asked me Questions that are honest, questions that really come to the end Of ourselves, please Because there is no contest, no debate Of information that Alan has given us over the last At least five years As far as ancient history goes
I don’t have the books And most of us don’t have the books That Alan has mentioned A lot of them He has had access To some heavy, powerful works And he has opened the eyes And opened the ears And opened the minds Of hundreds, thousands of people Since 1998 And for you who are new listeners I can close here tonight, folks Because that’s what my mind does For me When I talk about one thing Another thought comes along And I take myself To a bullshit business For you who are new listeners And who have over the last.. last And the information that was given I want you to know On the website Sweetliberty.org …There are many archives Alan has that On cuttingthroughthematrix.com …Even maybe more I don’t know Than we have on Sweet Liberty ….When it comes to the archive When it comes to the last last That we have done together To limit all the information That has been limited over the last few years And to bring it down A little bit It is just impossible What I catch you guys The archives At sweetliberty.org Are absolutely free And the archives The radio broadcast That is cuttingthroughthematrix.com Are absolutely free And I would join Those of you who are new listeners To go back to the archives We have limited it all Over and over and over When it comes to the fact Our slow listeners Are very aware that Alan Limited the same material And as he said On the air That it has been said That people 8 times Before they remember it Maybe so
There is very little That it is spoken Even in the last 3, 4, 5, 6 months That has not been spoken Many times in the past So again If you go back to the archives At sweetliberty.org And cuttingthroughthematrix.com Then you can also Nicholas Has for our listeners The whole year 2004 Where we For most of the year Four nights a week And they weren’t all With Alan Watt But a lot of them were
The year 2004 And the year 2005 Are on disc And you can get the whole year 2004 or 2004 2005 For 120 bucks It’s over 200 broadcasts a year What it is So it’s less If you can afford it Or maybe with a few friends So you can get the discs And listen to the past broadcasts I think it’s a great solution for people Who want to go that far And to listen To what was said in the past Alan We had a big Shortwave listenership
He called me first In June of 1998 We talked on the phone Probably at least Once a week Sometimes twice a week Until December Before I invited him on the air And when we got on the air together We did a lot of broadcasting together The listeners, like I said Enjoyed it so much
There was a hiatus In our communication From December 2001 To sometime 2003
I think it was in the middle of 2004 It was about two and a half years That We started losing each other And then he called And we started Broadcasting together again So in general We had about five years On the air if I’m not mistaken
The hiatus Where we came And I want to make it clear to you I heard I got some footage Of people who wanted to know So I heard What he calls a blurb And he said That it was last week That he wouldn’t do the broadcast Because I had a replay And also He said that he believed That we were at an impasse With a demand market
Well I heard A new one that he’s done I think it’s called Ego versus Truth
And in the Well first He said that he would have it At 9:30 tonight For you guys to listen
I was Sorry to see But We’ve done so many broadcasts Together And he knows Sweet Liberty Is At 9:00 I heard that At 4:10 That was a Wednesday And the 11:00 And in His blurb Said he’d have one for you tonight to listen to So it seems like maybe he’d recognize it I’m on WFAR And I’m on a certain time list Alan does his From computer
And I think it would be really nice After all these years If there wasn’t The contest for time
So maybe Alan will recognize it Gives a little thought And makes you Alan listen to Sweet Liberty And Cutting Through the Matrix If you want And the phones ring But I’ve invited the people Who called on the phone And a lot of emails I’ve received Emails of support And emails Saying Please Resolve This So you and Alan Can start again
Although a lot of you who sent the emails Said thank you for the questions That you’ve asked And hopefully direct questions. I want you to know that the Impasse people have absolutely nothing to do with me being afraid, that he and I are not wrong.Of course not to be unequal.
I’m not being wrong. It all went to my face. And if I… if I at least put it on, then I’ve also done it to my face in a different way.
And when I had the height of all the races and set it up, and when I had the height of all the races, I set the height of all the races. I don’t want to create uncertainty in anyone; that’s not what I’m here for. And I know that it’s not my purpose in life to bring uncertainty. And I mean, in the past, I’ve passed for image, to know the truth, the difference between truth and love.
And truth and suffering.
Because not only would I never, ever, additionally, mislead any of you, any of you. I don’t want to do it additionally, people.
I don’t propose to have all the knowledge, all the truth.
I know truth, I know what truth is, simple truth. I know that if we see, we will also read.I know that. I know it’s a universal law. And I also know that our Creator has injured us, has already disrupted every blessing.And it just waits for our thanks, our love, and our openness to receive it. I know that. I also know that we are spiritual people.And Alan knows that too. And she… So now, I’m going to stop here and move up a bit.
My concerns have become a mixed message.What I’m seeing ………..is mixed messages.
That’s why I was hoping we could discuss these things in the open. Not personally, not privately.
But let’s talk about it on the air. Thanks from all of you. So we can understand.If there’s any way to understand that it’s a mixed message, what I see is a mixed message. Or maybe.
Give Alan a chance to recover. Perhaps he’s pinned himself down. At some point or another.
And it has nothing to do with discrepancies. About ancient religion. Or, exceptionally, ancient history.
It’s on a spiritual level, people. And… And this is my concern. And the fact that I’m an avenue.Since 1998. With that two-and-a-half-year hiatus. Until now.
I’m the avenue. For Alan to get his message out.
I feel a very deep… …sense of responsibility.Besides the love I have for the people I’m doing this episode with. But a responsibility. I have… Another episode host once said that the problem with Jackie is that… …she argues too much with her guests.
If I had a guest… …who said something I absolutely knew wasn’t true… …then I would respond. And if it turned into a debate… …which I never brought anyone to… …but the one thing I would never do… …is sit there… …and let someone make a statement… …as if it were fact. When I know the real facts.I’m not talking about opinion here. Maybe a political thing. Whatever.But I couldn’t sit… …and say nothing. Because then… …for me… …it would mean that my listeners… …accept that I’m engaging. And that I’m not engaging with inequality.And that’s what this all is. It’s just inequality. It’s an opinion.And it’s not faith. They’re just simple… …and simple… …facts. But they are… …as I said before… …they compare. They… …change… …the very head… …of our awareness.And I did… …I do… …I’m going to… …some of these tonight… …just because we couldn’t do it on the air. As I… …wrote to someone… …that… …yes, we’re at an impasse. I don’t know if it’s unbelievable.Maybe it is, maybe not. But I know we need… …closure on these people. If it isn’t unbelievable… …I couldn’t see myself getting up on the air… …and pretending… …that Alan Watt was never… …in our future… …with me and with you.
Now… …forgive me… …what I’m going to do here… …I did this in May… …these are words that Alan gave… …and that was May 17th… …I believe, if I’m not mistaken… …or it was May 24th… …this is a conversation he had… …with our mutual friend Miss Evie Bernthorn… …and the reason I’ll repeat this… …is because this was stated very emotionally… …and it was stated… …very emotionally… …in a different way… …at Sweet Liberty… …today’s conversation is different from this… …he talked about… …the… …secret societies… …and he said that… …people… …should go to societies… …and… …and… …and question them… …this was part of the conversation… …and made them admit… …that they had data… …if they had data… …to another… …to a… …to a society… …or a club, or whatever… …and… …and Miss Evie said… …that it seems as if… …you would become a martyr… …if you did… …because… …and he said yes… …it seems like you are a… …a martyr…
…but he said… …you know… …the politicians are nothing… …but bullies… …then… …then… …here he started… …the conversation… …that I… …transcribed… …from that conversation… …that they had… …they had it on… …tape… …because he never said it again… …when I… …wanted to talk about it… …the subject… …was always changing… …this… …these are his words… …he said… …it about the politicians… …being bullies… …that they are in the minority… …and if the head… …is cut off… …of every month… …beyond that, it falls apart… …I’m not trying… …to read this whole thing… …but just to get down to it… …they are just robots… …who take central control… …and a payment… …but you are at their mercy… …everything… …invincible… …and undestructible… …but then… …really… …you go over them… …you go to the ones… …who are in control… …and explain them… …like the gangsters they are… …they are obviously gangsters… …and that’s when they talk about… …going to the public… …etc…. …and then… …she said it… …she said it… …would be like that… …and he said… …it would be like that… …he said… …there is also… …another element… …in everything… …you see… …and it concerns the fact… …that there is a consciousness… …in this world… …and you can create consciousness… …in this world… …by willing it… …to be that way… …and if you have enough… …on the same wavelength… …as it was… …because the other side… …used this technique… …certainly… …if you have other people… …who want… …another way… …to come into the world… …that… …is the real war… …that continues… …and it is… …the spiritual war… …
we know that… …like the physical… …we don’t have it… …people… …he said… …because at the highest… …of this… …behind all the religions… …behind all the masterminds… …that ever existed… …and gurus… …they’ve always known… …that there is such a thing… …as the spiritual… …force… …within everyone… …that can be used… …and they’re more… …amazed by that… …than by anything else… …and again… …he said… …that’s the key… …because if you can contain everyone… …in a world… …where everything… …goes… …to… …fascinates… …measure… …things that are… …used… …and wealth… …as long as… …as they can contain us… …in basic material needed… …we can’t… …go to that plane… …where the real war… …is going… …and he said… …they’ve written about this… …that’s what surprises me… …that they… …have about this written… …and when you have enough people… …just enough people… …you don’t even have to be the three percent… …but when you have enough… …who are honest enough… …and who… …enlighten themselves are… …they’ve come to that plane… …who wants it… …to be a different way… …and that is… …when their world… …comes to an end… …and great changes… …will be made… …and that is… …that is… …as far as I’ll go with that… …that is… …the main thing that I wanted you to hear… …ladies and gentlemen… …that within each individual… …is a spiritual force… …and the reason that this is so… …I know that this is so… …I know that this is so…
…and… …the reason I’m bringing this up… …because it’s so important… …in my feelings… …for all of us to know this… …we don’t have to… …we don’t have to pretzel ourselves… …we don’t have to pray to the spirits… …we are one with our… …Father-Creator… …we are of our Father-Creator… …and the communication… …is within us… …the ability to communicate is within us… …and… …the pe… …I’ve been to… …another program… …that he was on other shows… …because people were calling me and saying… …have you heard this show… …and he said this… …and he said that… …and… …I was going to listen… …and the one thing… …that… …I’ve heard him say… …and he said it on Sweet Liberty… …is that everybody has no spirit… …now that’s exactly the point… …of what I just read… …and what was said… …on the air… …on Sweet Liberty… …to a very large… …short wave audience… …and I believe we were on the internet… …at that time… …I don’t know for sure… …but if you… …as people… …if this… …if it was somebody… …just somebody that said that… …You could take it with a grain of salt… …it wouldn’t do me any good…
…this is Alan Watt… …who has had hundreds of conversations… …on these programs… …that… …in direct contradiction… …to the one I just read… …that was said… …that within each individual… …is a spiritual force… …now the story is… …everyone has no spirit… …everyone has no spirit… …and that a spirit… …was created for us… …but we have to call the spirit… …to us… …and spirit doesn’t always come… …that’s strange for people… …who hear that… …and the reason it’s strange… …is that people hear it from Alan Watt… …and they… …and I know this… …is that… …in fact, I told Alan… …that Wednesday… …there are many people… …who have adopted Alan… …as their new guru… …and if Alan has saved you… …and as he said many times… …that people are just looking… …to find a new guru to follow… …to follow someone else… …if Alan Watt says it… …people take it seriously… …and if he had only been here once… …I wouldn’t… …do a broadcast… …with these people… …that he’s been here so many times… …and that’s why… …I feel a responsibility… …to answer these differences… …and probably… …you’d want to ask him the questions yourself… …or probably… …Alan could call… …I don’t know… …I’d like to… …have a private story… …I’d like to do it… …on the air… …that can’t happen… …and I won’t do another broadcast… …like this….. …I want you to know that… …we’re going to move on to other things… …we’re going to take a break here… …
