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    Alan Watt on
    “Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
    August 24, 2004
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    Jackie: Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.
    Today is Tuesday and it is the 24th of August 2004. I am glad you are with us this evening. We
    have a guest this evening, folks, and I think there are many of our long-time listeners who will be
    delighted to know that our guest is with us. For those of you who are newer listeners, you heard
    me mention the name many times.
    I want to do first our spiritual message. I’m going to do this twice, it’s in the New Testament,
    it’s in the red, it is attributed to the words of Jesus. The first one here is from Luke 8, verse 16:
    “No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a
    bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light. For nothing is
    secret which will not be made manifest; neither anything hid, that shall not be known and come
    abroad. Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever has, to him shall be given; and
    whosoever has not, from him shall be taken even that which he seems to have.”
    I’m going to go over to Matthew 5 where he is quoted as saying pretty much the same thing a
    little bit differently:
    “Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid. Ye are the light of
    the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid, and neither do men light a candle and put it
    under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it gives light unto all that are in the house. Let your
    light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in
    heaven.” And Jesus told us that the Kingdom of God is within us, didn’t he folks? I take that
    very seriously and I take it literally.
    Our guest is Mr. Alan Watt from Canada, and welcome back to Sweet Liberty.
    Alan: It’s a pleasure to be here.
    Jackie: The last few conversations we’ve had since we’ve been it touch again, as always, have
    been not just delightful, but always meaningful. I appreciate your coming on with us. Let me
    ask you a question. When I was reading from Luke that verse where “nothing is secret that shall
    not be made manifest, neither anything hid but shall not be known and come abroad” and then it
    says, ” Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever has, to him shall be given; and
    whosoever has not, from him shall be taken even that which he seems to have.” Do you
    understand that?Would you help me with that?
    Alan: I think people have to understand that the mystery religion of the ages is wrapped around
    all religions; and if you have “gained the spirit” as they say, more is given to you; but if you have
    not attained spirit, then even the soul is taken from you.
    Jackie: When you say “attained spirit”, would you say spiritual awareness, spiritual
    consciousness?
    Alan: That’s all part of it.
    Jackie: I found where he had said that “fear not those who can kill the body but not the soul, but
    fear those who can–
    Alan: Kill the body and the soul.”
    Jackie: When I read that, it really was quite frightening, because until then it really wasn’t even
    a thought in my mind that a person could lose their soul. The battle that has been going on for all
    these centuries is not just a battle for world dominion over the physical, but over the aspects of
    our mind, our entire soul.
    Alan: In the old religion, and this is the key to all of this, in the old mystery religion that preexisted
    all the religions that we have today, the person who sought hard enough with their soul, if
    they sought hard enough, would attain spirit. Spirit wasn’t born with you, that’s what they
    believed; and so as you attained the knowledge, the spirit that was your spirit came closer to you,
    so it merged; and that was called “complete life” when you had body, soul and spirit in the one.
    That was the first trinity. Those who took over the system and warped everything and changed
    everything, their goal is to deny people from gaining spirit basically and to be zombies, good
    worker bees.
    Jackie: Where that is confusing to me is that it has not been a thought in my mind – each and
    every one of us in this physical form is actually a spiritual nature animating the physical form –
    and I can’t imagine a human here without being that spiritual being of Creator.
    Alan: You see, this was the supposed mystery of the soul and the spirit. The soul was the
    animating force that gave life and made you seek out truth, and so life was supposed to be a
    journey, always looking for the ultimate truth; and when people pass a certain stage, thoughts
    would flow to them with crystal clarity that they never had before, and that was attainment of
    spirit. It’s even wrapped in the Christian version when they get the Holy Ghost. It’s the same
    thing. The Holy Spirit and so that was completion you might say. Everyone has the ability to
    communicate to that part of the Creator. However, those who rule the world and warped
    everything and gave us religion have attempted to squash the natural ability to find your own
    course towards that spirit. That’s what it’s about.
    Jackie: In other words, the religions that we have been given have really promulgated a sense of
    separateness, specialness. I know that a lot of people quote Paul a lot where he said you’re only
    going to get there by grace alone and your good works mean nothing; and then, in the red,
    attributed to Jesus, he said let your works glorify your father. Not like that’s going to get you to
    heaven because actually heaven – If the Kingdom of God is within us, that’s where it’s all at. So
    it isn’t like going some place, is it?
    Alan: It is and it isn’t at the same time, because your whole life does change as you go through
    your life’s journey. Wherever you go, you always bring yourself along with you; and part of the
    problem is with shedding the old to attain the new. The attainment of spirit is a desire. They used
    to say it was the love of the soul for the spirit. It was the love of the soul that drove it on; and
    then you gained more enlightenment, not perfect enlightenment because you can’t in this world.
    The world is tainted to an extent, but it drew you much, much closer and so your life’s journey
    was really a preparation for what went on afterwards; and of course, in this society we have
    today they’ve crushed all hope of that. They made us think of the purely material and the
    scientists basically and the experts have taken over the natural religions you might say. Now we
    have a scientific elite religion with its own destination, which is the so-called “Great Work of
    Masonry,” which is to complete that which they say was left imperfect: and that’s the world and
    everything in it, including us ourselves.
    Jackie: So in other words, that when Creator created he didn’t do it good enough?
    Alan: Not for these characters, no. You see, once you step out of Eden, which is paradise, in
    other words; it’s nature. Once you step out and you start making tools and so-called
    improvements, you’re on the road to science; and science is a one-way street towards oblivion
    ultimately, because you cannot have science co-existing with free will eventually. The ancient
    scientists, or you can call them priests if you want, for an example is Babylon, and they had a lot
    of knowledge of the scientific world basically couched in religious terminology. They also said
    that through understanding nature, meaning breaking nature down to its primary components,
    and then by manipulating it, they could recreate man and make him better; and that role has
    never changed. That’s why we’re on a one-way street towards massive genetic manipulation,
    where the elite will have physical immortality. That’s what they’re after, and the rest will be
    purpose-made clones basically, and this is documented. It’s not guesswork. There’s many
    scientific papers out right now about all of this, so there’s a goal and it’s all being done through
    science and the manipulation of matter.
    Jackie: When you said when we left Eden and we began to make tools, I tried to picture myself
    trying to garden with a spade or you understand what I’m saying. But basically in Eden then,
    what would have been paradise, we didn’t have to garden because it was all there?
    Alan: Yes. Eden is an allegory for perfect nature, but man himself is not satisfied with it. Once
    you start on the road of discovery or science and breaking down the secrets of nature, you’re on a
    one-way street to an elite eventually dominating everybody on the planet and changing life itself,
    which is all on the books. They do want to make purpose-made types of humans to serve these
    elite in the very near future. Purpose-made clones basically to serve these elite in the very near
    future and it’s well documented in all the scientific journals.
    Jackie: Do you think that was done in the past?
    Alan: I think so. We know for instance that the inoculation program was never given to help
    people. It was given literally to lobotomize the public as we went through massive transitions
    and it kept us placid and pretty stupid all through these transitions. A dumbed-down society is
    easy to manipulate.
    Gloria: I have a few questions for your guest. I’m a Christian now and I know the part where
    Jesus says that no one comes to the Father-Creator except through me,so that’s why I’m a
    Christian now. I used to be, I know this sounds crazy, but I used to be a former abductee, as god
    as my witness. I had many experiences with the UFOs, I’ve seen them, I’ve gone through so
    much for about four or five years. Anyway, when I became a Christian now, all that went away.
    That’s why I became a Christian: I needed that protection. I wanted to ask: Where do the UFOs,
    those unseen forces out there fit in with your New Age philosophy? What about the communist
    courts that control Canada? Canada is like so filthy and degraded and evil, there is evil
    everywhere there, and in America. What is your opinion of the Jews today, the Khazar Jews that
    are just causing hell everywhere, and what’s the answer is for us people who want to know about
    the New Age, your New Age philosophy?
    Jackie: Gosh, that was a mouthful, wasn’t it, Alan?
    Alan: It’s standard.
    Jackie: How would you answer first to the New Age? I read a book about the Knights Templar;
    towards the end of the book they begin talking about the New Age; and to me, that there is a
    turning, but they know it and take control of it and they guided and led it.
    Alan: Sure they do.
    Jackie: What people call New Age so often is where the truth is being hidden amongst the lies.
    Alan: Always. When truth is exposed that’s been kept hidden from the public, it’s always given
    to leaders who are the shepherds and they led us along the way they want us to go, always; and
    the thing is, the New Age is always becoming new. Jesus started a new covenant. That was a
    New Age. The Old Covenant was the Old Age. Jesus’ reign was supposedly the Age of Pisces,
    the fish. Now it’s into Aquarius. However, this again is only a timetable of the hidden elite that
    run the show.
    Jackie: In other words, the way they configure it, about every couple thousand years we’re
    moving into a “New Age.”
    Alan: That’s right.
    Jackie: How do you respond to Gloria in her question to you about “your New Age
    philosophy”?
    Alan: Once you become anything and join a group that has a tailor-made formula, anything
    outside that group becomes the enemy, including all individuals with their own philosophy, so it
    doesn’t worry me that she says “your New Age” because it isn’t mine anyway. And as far as
    communist Canada, I think she was calling from New York, wasn’t she? Well, I think that says it
    all; it’s no secret that communism was run and led and financed from New York, all through its
    existence. She should wonder what “Empire State” they’re talking about. What empire are they
    talking about?
    Jackie: Communists in Canada, whoever is in control of this world or certainly appears that
    they are; communism was created by those creatures. Capitalism was created by those creatures;
    all of the “isms” are a creation of them. All right, the statement: “no one comes to the father but
    through me.”
    Alan: Well, Jesus said it all. He said to his followers “I am in you, as you are in me; as the
    father is in me, he is in you as well.”
    Jackie: And “no one comes to the father but through me.” In my “interpretation” it sounds to me
    like he’s saying “listen to me, listen to what I am telling you.”
    Alan: That’s very important because again we get transfixed on a singular human being, but it’s
    also the pathway basically. The road to enlightenment can only go in that one direction and
    through that direction, and that’s what that means.
    Jackie: His message that he brought; that’s what that’s always meant to me.
    Alan: You can’t go through it any other way. In other words, no matter how many people
    diverge from the course, if they were to meet up again at the same stage, they would all have had
    to come back on that one course to be the same.
    Jackie: The path that he more or less trod out.
    Alan: “Truth” we’re told today is whatever your opinion is.
    Jackie: Truth in Black’s Law Dictionary – actually one of the definitions is that truth is
    consistency of thought within itself; so, if we think it long enough and hard enough and keep
    saying it, that’s truth; so truth could be anything.
    Alan: That’s what Pontius Pilot asked Jesus, “What is truth?” However, as far as the communist
    thing goes, it’s all rubbish because it’s simply the dialectic, which causes conflict, which causes
    faster change and this is planned by the same bunch that created both of them. Carroll Quigley
    said it all. He said you can get more accomplished in five years of warfare on a social scale than
    you can in 50 years of peace; and so, by understanding the laws of nature, which is this yin and
    yang type deal, using both of them, you can actually steer the course of planet earth and speed up
    the process. That’s what they believe and they actually do it that way. They live by timetables.
    Jackie: Gloria sounded a bit challenging in her questions; she was misunderstanding what you
    were talking about. She’s called in before. I think what she was doing was misunderstanding that
    what you were talking about was not “a belief” system but what they believed and how they are
    working under that belief system.
    Alan: We’re dealing with people who have their own inner religion. Albert Pike, the high Mason
    said all this, that every church – he didn’t say some churches, he said every church has the
    exoteric for the bulk of the people, the masses and the esoteric for the very elite.
    Jackie: Esoteric meaning an inner meaning; and exoteric meaning an outer, a sensible meaning
    Alan: Masonry is the same. He said Masonry also has its outer group, which is in a sense
    camouflaged, and it has its inner elite with its own agenda.
    Jackie: Yes and he said the outer courts – he called it the outer courts, the exoteric, the lower
    degrees, that they believe that they understand and they’re meant to believe that they understand
    what’s actually going on; when in reality they’re nothing more than window dressings.
    Alan: Yes. In fact he said “we know no more than the general public.” What they do know is
    that they help each other to get on with unmerited favor to do with jobs and so on.
    Jackie: In the Protocols they call it ‘show masonry’ and that those ‘goyim’ who are attracted to
    it want to be in it so that they can throw sand in their brother’s faces.
    Alan: They can because they get unmerited favor through employment and pay raises and they
    bypass bureaucratic offices and so on, and can get a lot of things done that you would have to
    pay through the nose to get done. Yes, they get a lot of perks and so it does attract a very basic
    type of person.
    Jackie: –A materialistic type person. Gloria did ask for you to address the UFO situation and
    how it fits into all these things.
    Alan: The UFO deal, we have a puzzle because we had sciences on earth here that were far in
    advance of what we’re told. Who knows how long they’ve been here with their physical sciences?
    On the other hand, too many people have had visitations with these “beings.” I haven’t met one
    yet who had a visitation where anything of import has been given to them. They haven’t come
    away from the encounter any brighter or wiser than they were before.
    Jackie: Do you mean “abductees”?
    Alan: “Abductees”…again, I’m sort of skeptical of the amount of people who say they’ve been
    abducted. They’ve had studies and they found under hypnosis with test groups – some who claim
    they had been, and members of the general population who had no idea at all – and they found
    out with the same hypnotists they had the same number of people claiming they had encounters
    from the group who had no record of it, so there’s form of suggestion going on here, too.
    Jackie: I’ve always believed that there’s life of some form, maybe not humanoid but life on
    other planets. I mean it’s just arrogance to believe that we are the only life form on the only
    planet and these myriads of universes, but I’ve also thought about this ability that exists to
    literally give us false memories.
    Alan: You’re right on that because some of the higher Masons belong to what they call
    Triangles. They belong to groups and they’re set up in triangles in different parts of the country,
    and they do, in the much, much higher Masonry, force their will upon the general population
    within that triangle; and I have some of their books.
    Jackie: In what way, how do they force their will? What does this have to do with UFOs?
    Alan: You’re talking about how people are so fascinated by it, but did you have an encounter or
    did something put that in your head, and that’s what we’re really asking. If it did get popped into
    your head, where did it come from?
    Jackie: I had a series of dreams, three of them when I lived in Illinois, and they came very close
    on one another. They were very vivid dreams, in one of them I had been taken up in a spaceship,
    and they were poking something underneath my fingernails. When I woke up in the morning,
    the first thing I did was look to see if I had marks under there. I don’t know what there was
    about that, but I was a little freaked out.
    We’re back folks, and Alan Watt is our guest tonight. For those of you who are new listeners,
    when Alan first began coming on as a guest – this is back in 1998 – we did a series, we didn’t
    plan on doing a series but listeners kept calling an saying “keep him on.” At that time, that
    weren’t good telephone rates and there were listeners who actually sponsored the costs of Alan
    calling from Canada to be on the air with us. I want you to know this, you’ve heard me mention
    this many times, when he was on with us originally, in a sense what he did was take us all out of
    the dark ages, with history, ancient history. We really never got into more current history with
    Alan, other than sometimes talking about current happenings. I would like you to consider just
    listening, and if you have questions, ask. Alan and I have not communicated in quite a while.
    One of the things he said to me, after we were talking after a long period of time, he said “you’re
    in a rut,” and I felt offended when he said that, but I knew what he was saying was right, except
    the use of the word “rut” I wasn’t getting. When we talked another time, I asked him to define
    what he meant by “rut.” He said “you’ve come to a point, and you haven’t gone beyond it.” That
    I knew was the truth. Folks, to me, there’s nothing today more important than us understanding,
    or getting closer to understanding, who in fact we really are. This thing that we call “religion,”
    you’ve heard me say it, I know that I’ve stepped on many toes when I have said that religions
    were created by man, I knew that before Alan Watt said it. I don’t say it as a parrot, I knew that
    when I was 15 years old that something was very wrong. I knew when I was a little girl that
    something wasn’t right with this world. I grew up in a Lutheran church and every time I went to
    our pastor to ask him a question, and it didn’t matter whether it was in Flint, Michigan or
    Chicago or where I was, they patted me on the arm (figuratively) and then changed the subject
    because my questions bothered them. I finally stopped going to church because I knew weren’t
    getting the truth.
    (Call)
    You’re on the air.
    Eleanor: Alan was about to expand on what he meant by the Masonic triangles and forcing their
    influence on people. I’d love to hear his details on that.
    Alan: I’ve got it in a few of the insider Freemason books, not the type you buy on a shelf
    counter at some big bookstore. Some of the ones come from the high theosophists, for instance,
    which is just one branch of it, and they go through this process where they control the thoughts
    of the world by imposing their perfected will, they tell you, by the way, on the public within the
    range of their triangle. They have in North America for instance broken up into triangles and
    they have major lodges at the points of the triangle in each area, and they meet on certain
    occasions at night and go through all this ‘will-power projection’, you might call it. Some of
    them certainly do it mentally. The theosophists claim that their major triangles are based in New
    York City, London and Switzerland and they are bringing the agenda further on, they claim.
    They also use predictive programming through entertainment, so that ideas that would seem
    absurd if presented in a factual non-fictional way you would reject it out-of-hand or even rebel
    against, but when you see things through fictionalization and comedy you don’t retaliate when
    the actual thing occurs in reality.
    Jackie: In other words, we don’t resist it.
    Alan: It’s called predictive programming, from Tavistock
    Jackie: Can you think of an example to give on that?
    Alan: To do with the ‘gender-bending’ let’s say. That was all done through comedy and taking
    sexuality into a more open arena step-by-step, until you’re watching programs now that hide very
    little; and of course they are going to go the whole way, ultimately, on TV and that will become
    standard fare. So the breakdown of the moral codes of the individual and then introduce the new;
    and when anything goes, then literally anything goes. You have nothing to hold on to when there
    are no rights and wrongs any more. It’s ‘relativism’ as they call it.
    Jackie: What we have to hold on to is what’s in out heart, what we know is the difference
    between right and wrong.
    Alan: We must hang on to who we are.
    Jackie: And who are we?
    Alan: You have to find out who you are. That’s the journey because most people are composites.
    Jackie: Many aspects of self, is that what you mean by “composite”?
    Alan: Most of it is actually downloading, like Zbigniew Brzezinski said in the “Technetronic
    Era” and remember who he was, he was up there in the War Department of the U.S. He said,
    apart from all the high technology they had back in the ’60’s that would eventually be used on
    the whole world to control the mind. He did say that people shortly would be unable to form an
    opinion by themselves. Now they could fight and die and hold on to those opinions, but it would
    never occur to them, they’ve never researched a single one for themselves, because it all was
    downloaded through the nightly news for them. It’s true. I mean everyone’s got a thousand
    opinions. They’ll argue about them but they’ve never researched any of them for themselves.
    That’s part composite, you see. It’s been manufactured for them, so that there is part of their
    personality, which is fake to begin with. It’s not them at all, and the rest of it is training through
    school and media, entertainment and so on.
    Jackie: This is a book titled “The Cause of World Unrest” and there’s a quote here about the
    Bolshevik policy is to kill industry so that unemployment, want and discontent will continue.
    “Read the old revolutionary maxim on which they act today. Want and opinion are the two
    agents which make all men act. Cause the want, govern opinion and you will overturn all the
    existing systems however well constituted they may appear. Cause the want and then govern the
    opinion.
    Alan: Yes. We’re always being told what the solution is to whatever they give to us.
    Jackie: We’re always being told what we think, too.
    Alan: The next day everyone’s chatting about what they heard on the news the previous day.
    Jackie: Actually they talk about what they think, because they’ve been told what they think. In a
    conversation with my nephew, when he was talking about the Houston Chronicle, he didn’t like
    it, he said, because there was too much editorializing. I said I thought there were some decent
    articles for a newspaper, a controlled medium. He said, but we don’t need to be told what to
    think. I said the problem is that people think that they have their own thoughts, but they don’t.
    He turned around and said to me – this was during the Monica Lewinsky thing, I’ve heard this
    said over and over again on CNN – let’s use this Bill Clinton thing for an example, “We don’t
    care what he’s done, we just want this whole thing over and we want him to get back to the
    business of running this country.” And Alan, my heart just fell because he said it word for word,
    the way he was told that the American people think.
    Alan: The public are given their thoughts, and that’s everyone, and you have to break free from
    all of the conditioning and to think for yourself and ignore all the trivia that they give you.
    Governments are not real. They’re just fronts and it doesn’t matter what side they think they’re
    on; they’re all just fronts, absolutely all of them. It doesn’t matter which country you choose –
    they’re all puppets.
    Jackie: I remember reading a quote somewhere, and I think that there was a time when I
    wouldn’t have even seen this, that the governments are supposed to make laws according to the
    consent of the governed. Basically, what we were saying is, you govern us so you better do what
    we want. It literally referred to ourselves as “the governed.”
    Alan: The governments are not the bosses. During the whole Cold War Era, isn’t it amazing that
    they were creating a United Europe, unbeknownst to all the people who lived within Europe?
    They were creating a Unified Africa. They were creating a Unified Pacific Rim block and they
    were creating a Unified Americas.
    Jackie: Guess what, the first of all of those Unifieds were the United States of America.
    Alan: Well of course. That’s its purpose.
    Jackie: All of us who were born in America, the “United States”, it never occurred to me when
    they were talking about the European Union, “All those countries are going to lose their
    sovereignty” and it happened here a long time ago.
    Alan: Jefferson said it and so did Franklin. They said “this country is founded on the basis of
    federation, which will eventually be a federated world under a government of 12 wise men”.
    That’s in Jefferson’s writings. They knew exactly where they were going.
    Jackie: Jefferson was a Phi Beta Kappa, I understand.
    Alan: He was also an open member of the Illuminati.
    Jackie: My understanding was the Phi Beta Kappa was one of those college fraternities where a
    lot of the elite were turned out.
    Alan: In fact, if you look at Elihu Yale, who donated the money for the foundation of Yale
    University, he said, “We are setting up these universities to create the types of leaders who will
    lead this country into the future.” In other words, they were training them before the revolution.
    Elihu Yale made his money from the British East India Company. He was one of the founding
    members. These guys are all in it together and they have created the future they wanted. The
    U.S. just has to finish the job it’s been designed to do, and as they’re doing it, they’re getting the
    U.S. ready to collapse into the system that they helped create.
    Jackie: We’ve got a lot of new listeners since you’ve been on. You said a lot of outrageous and
    audacious and almost unbelievable things; then our listeners starting doing research and started
    sending me stuff and saying, “Look at this. This is exactly what Alan was talking about.” The
    reason I’m bringing this up is because you do say some things that sound so off the wall that it
    “just couldn’t be true.” However, in the books that you put together, it isn’t just your writing
    explaining what is in the book, it is copies out of old, ancient books. You said at one time that
    their plan is to actually morph humanity so that we’ll all be hermaphrodites. I said many times,
    and I know you probably remember this, I used to say to our listeners, just because Alan Watt
    says this doesn’t mean it’s so, and I couldn’t verify it because I don’t have the information at
    hand. In other words, don’t take it to the bank. But you had it in one of your books. Then I got a
    book that was written in the 1950’s and in there was exactly what you were talking about, how
    they could create a hermaphrodite.
    Alan: The American Psychiatric Association put a book out in the ’60’s after being funded by
    the U.S. government for a two-year study on this very subject. The latter part of the book was all
    about the creation of the hermaphrodite in order to have “world peace,” and they go through all
    this in detail. It’s called The Human Agenda and you can’t get much more official than that.
    There was a movement started up in the U.S. with people born since 1950’s onwards, and they
    managed through the Freedom of Information Act to get their medical records. They’d all been
    born to hermaphroditic, male and female. They all lived around U.S. Naval bases and one of
    their parents or sometimes both were in the Navy. The mothers when they were expecting were
    all given special inoculations, they were told, and supplements because they lacked certain things
    and their children all end up hermaphroditic (having sexual organs of both male and female). In
    three states alone in the U.S., they’ve now found 10,000 people that have had this done to them
    basically. I caught it on a radio show just a few weeks ago. It’s a fairly recent organization but
    they do have the declassified records from the U.S. Navy to prove this and back this up. They
    were using hormonal treatments on the mothers and it produced these hermaphroditic children.
    You wonder why the world is in chaos today, where a lot of women think they’re men and a lot
    of men think they’re women. I don’t think it’s by chance. That’s the amazing thing is that this is
    an agenda when the American Psychiatric Association do a think-tank study with the best
    psychiatrists pulled in from all over the world and they conclude that they must create this kind
    of society, a hermaphroditic society for world peace. Really we’re living a horror show; I used to
    say we live in a Disney movie, but that’s only during the day. It’s a horror show and we’re living
    through it. The whole population has been experimented upon in ways they don’t even
    comprehend because it’s such high-tech. Now, with the towers going up everywhere, which are
    designed for mind control purposes, and this is on main news here, they’re installing these all
    over the U.S. They’ll be able to work and broadcast on the same frequency levels as the brain
    and they hope to pacify people in times of crisis and this is the reason they’re putting up the
    towers.
    Jackie: This is what was said on the news in Canada. This goes along with a lot of what is in
    Nick Begich’s book on the HAARP towers, how they can tune into the frequency of the human
    brain.
    Alan: They’ve had that ability for a long time.
    Jackie: Where was it they said they were spraying Prozac?
    Alan: That was the mainstream news of CBC Canada on television. It was Rumsfeld who was
    asked, in one of these brief clips they show you, what contingency plans he had for another 9/11
    deal, and he said, “we have aerosolized Prozac and Valium ready to go and to be sprayed over
    the cities.” And I thought, if they have it ready to go, I wonder if they’re already doing it, because
    they’re spraying the skies everywhere and people definitely are far too passive for the changes
    that are taking place right now. I think the spraying of the skies alone shows you what you’re up
    against here because no government will admit to this, that they are doing it. However, they will
    admit it’s being done, but not by them.
    Jackie: You had explained that to me, they are using the “Open Skies Treaty” as their
    justification that there are chemicals being sprayed but it isn’t us doing it.
    Alan: Yes, that’s right. It’s like a Dr. Strangelove policy, where we do it somewhere else and
    someone else does it to us. When you think of the volume that they must have had stored up to
    even begin this on a daily basis, they had to be making this since about 1950 onwards at least,
    and Dow Chemical and all the big boys have to be involved for the quantities they’re using and
    people are being affected by it. We were getting static shocks all summer when you came out of
    a vehicle, so much so, they put little blurbs on the news not to touch your vehicle and the pump
    at the fill-up station because sparks can fly across. Well that’s impossible in natural summers
    because it’s humid and it’s hot. You only get that in the wintertime, but not now. We’re living in
    the scientific age.
    Jackie: When Dr. Begich was on in ’95, he was talking about some experiments they had done;
    how they could cause emotional upheaval.
    Alan: They had hand-held weaponry that they could cause this from any distance back in the
    1950’s.
    Jackie: Before all the towers were up. But he said they could tune it to a frequency. They could
    make everybody feel good. They could make people feel angry and they could make them feel
    suicidal and homicidal at the flick of switch.
    Alan: Yes. They were testing the people of Maine. They say they were the experimental test
    group for that.
    Jackie: Ladies and gentleman, thanks for being with us tonight. We’ll be back again tomorrow
    with Alan Watt.
    Alan Watt on
    “Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
    August 25, 2004
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    Jackie: Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Our guest again this evening is Alan Watt. First the
    spiritual message from Ephesians 6, beginning with verse 10.
    “Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the
    whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle
    not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the
    darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the
    whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to
    stand.”
    This was an issue with children and many of you do have children in school. When they get to
    certain grades, they have to have certain vaccines; a tetanus vaccine was due, and I got doing
    some research on it; children could be opted out of it. The first day of school, half of that class
    was being sent home because they didn’t have a tetanus vaccine. Tetanus is not a disease, and yet
    the children were sent home because they didn’t have “a tetanus vaccine.” As far as I can
    ascertain I don’t believe there is a state in these United States that doesn’t have an opt-out form;
    the forms are at the schools in the offices and all you have to do is declare that it is against your
    religious beliefs. You don’t have to be going to a church. I know that each of the schools are
    different, but in this case you didn’t have to have something filled out by a church. All you had to
    do was get this one particular form; you can go to Vaccination Liberation. It’s a website; do a
    search. It thinks it’s vaccinationliberation.com; just put in your search engine ‘vaccination
    liberation’ and you can go right to it. They’ve got an alphabetical index that’s just beautiful. The
    website is set up beautifully and it is so helpful. So this tetanus “vaccine”…there is no immunity
    and it was in the manufacturers website that in the United States there has been no immunity
    built up against this infection. It’s actually an infection. The bacteria is clostridium tetani; they
    say that in the United States there is no immunity to it. There’s no immunity in anybody because
    tetanus isn’t a disease. It’s an infection that is caused from improper cleaning of a wound and a
    tetanus vaccine is not going to build up an immunity for the individual. The vaccine is in fact a
    poison itself; they grow the lethal bacteria, clostridium tetani using mercury, that’s thimerosal, as
    a preservative and they use embalming fluid, formaldehyde as a detoxifier, so they grow a toxin
    and then kill it with formaldehyde. They say it’s a detoxifier and there is one of two different
    kinds of aluminum in the vaccines. The thimerosal breaks down in the body to mercury. It is a
    neurotoxin and, doesn’t that mean toxic poison to the brain, a neurotoxin?
    Alan: Oh yes, the whole nervous system.
    Jackie: It is admitted that the aluminum and the thimerosal are both neurotoxins and so if you
    are still vaccinating your children, after you hear this tonight, you can get an opt-out form if you
    children are in school, because every single one of the vaccines have thimerosal; all of the
    vaccines use thimerosal as a preservative and they use formaldehyde in them also. So all you’re
    doing is injecting these children, these precious babies that have been given you into your care
    with poison chemicals and even if they live through it and they don’t become autistic, because
    autism has increased, and the autism is connected directly to these vaccines. So I wanted you to
    know, and Alan, thank you for being patient with us here.
    Alan: It’s a pleasure.
    Jackie: According to this one article on the dangers of thimerosal, it’s been known for a long
    time that it’s a neurotoxin but it says that it has removed from many across-the-counter
    medicines such Merthiolate and contact lens solution.
    Alan: That’s right.
    Jackie: It says here that the amount given a six-pound infant in one vaccination would be the
    equivalent of giving a 180-pound adult 30 vaccinations in one day.
    Alan: Yes. And that’s on a brain that hasn’t grown yet.
    Jackie: That’s right and the liver isn’t producing whatever it has to do to get rid of the poisons in
    the body. A listener wanted to know if you would address Harry Potter books and what you
    know about them, pros or cons.
    Alan: Only what I’ve heard on the general media. I’ve seen a couple of the movies and it’s just
    the old rehashed stuff that we’ve heard in fairy tales for centuries.
    Jackie: We have an article on our website allegedly written by a former witch, and she said that
    these books and these movies are not harmless because they are encouraging witchcraft. A lot of
    children have seen the movies and say, “I want to be a witch when I grow up,” but she said all of
    the names of the dormitories such as Slitherine. She said those are the names of the actual
    demons that are called up in black magic, so she said that the children, every time they say it, it’s
    like they’re calling that demon to them.
    Alan: Yes. It’s all old Kabbalistic formula. We are at the end of this long-calculated stage that’s
    been planned for the world for such a long time and we’re on the brink of a major change as you
    can see all around us. I don’t think it will be too pleasant when it all comes down. It’s been
    planned for such a long, long time by those in authority worldwide and I think they’re truly
    meaning to push their whole New Age formula and put it into effect, to eradicate, as we keep
    hearing from the Rockefeller Foundation and others, a good portion of the world’s population.
    That they deem no longer be necessary to keep themselves in the comforts they’re used to. They
    have technology to accomplish a large amount of that.
    Jackie: Everything they’re doing today is part of it; the wars, the vaccines and the chemtrails;
    maybe people aren’t dropping like flies; maybe they are and we don’t know it.
    Alan: They are, actually. I mean with all the spraying alone that’s going on and I’m sure that –
    we even have more ads on TV sponsored by the government to recognize signs of stroke. We
    never had those before and they’re on every day.
    Jackie: Yes and over here it’s asthma and upper respiratory problems. I’ve seen it on the
    Weather Channel quite a bit when they advertise all of their medicines. Asthma’s a big one today
    and a lot of people have asthmatic symptoms that have never in their lives had asthma. Young
    people, children as well as adults.
    Alan: Again, going back to inoculations, autism is only at the top of the tree of symptoms.
    There’s a whole range of lesser symptoms not as profound or as obvious going all the way down
    to asthma and you have varying degrees of mental disturbances. Slow learning, that type of
    thing, not quite classed as autism, degrees of mental retardation. The IQ level has dropped five
    points over the last 10, 15 years, a minimum of five points. And of course with all the
    inoculations going hand-in-hand into infants bodies before the brain is formed; you’re really
    lobotomizing them before the brain is formed and that is one of the policies that was discussed
    with the World Population Council that Arthur Koestler attended, who wrote the book “The
    Ghost in the Machine” and took part in plans to try and lobotomize subject groups, which would
    eventually be used worldwide to basically dumb the people down through inoculations, through
    mechanical lobotomies, chemical lobotomies, everything basically. He wrote about it in his book
    and in the last chapter he tells you he thinks this is very important again for that same “world
    peace.” This is widely written about. It’s just that we don’t hear about it on the regular news.
    Jackie: When they talk about world peace, that’s their “peace.” I want to read this from
    Protocol #10. It says that:
    “You yourselves perfectly well know that to produce the possibility of the expression of
    such wishes by all the nations (that would be probably talking about their super government, the
    UN) it is indispensable to trouble in all countries the people’s relations with their governments
    so as to utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, with hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use
    of torture (which they’re doing today) by starvation and by the inoculation of diseases, by want,
    so that the “Goyim” see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money
    and in all else.
    But it says here:
    “If we give the nations of the world a breathing space, the moment we long for is hardly
    likely ever to arrive.”
    So when they talk about the inoculation of diseases they’re literally saying they’re going to
    inoculate diseases into people.
    Alan: That’s being followed pretty carefully even with the AIDS outbreak spreading through
    Haiti and then through Africa in the wake of the UN smallpox vaccination agenda. It followed on
    its heels and that has been admitted too. Of course they claim that some of the people who were
    giving inoculations didn’t sterilize the needles properly. They just used the same ones on arm
    after arm basically. That’s the way they wiggled out of that one.
    Jackie: You had said that you would be sharing information that hasn’t been shared with
    mankind for 3,000 years.
    Alan: What we’re dealing with behind all of the fronts we have facing us is a very old religion –
    a singular religion that pre-existed all of the other religions that we know today.
    Jackie: Does it also precede what we know today as Talmudism or Phariseeism; is it any
    different than Talmudism?
    Alan: Yes. You’ll find behind all of the religions, and the esoteric parts in all religions, they
    share a common origin, and it’s wrapped so carefully into all religions that it takes an awful lot of
    searching to find it, but you can find it.
    Jackie: I stated as I was compiling the book “Jewish Persecution” that it is a long-laid program
    for world dominion wrapped in a cloak of religion.
    Alan: It’s really the original religion behind all of the facades, and you find it again in the
    writings of Egypt and Sumer, and what the elites claimed is that they must interbreed so
    carefully with close kin for a very special reason. It’s puzzled all the researchers who have gone
    into this angle of it; why the necessity of worldwide aristocracy for this intense inbreeding and
    the pharaohs, or at least the priests who looked after the pharaohs, wrote about this and wrote
    about their ceremonies associated with this. What they claim is that their bodies are the
    descendents of the original bodies that were created when these beings or spirits or demons or
    angels were cast down to earth; and through their own will power they formed, from all the
    materials around them, through pure thought and will power, perfect bodies to occupy.
    Jackie: That is interesting that the physical body contains all of the elements that are in the
    earth.
    Alan: Yes. However, they claim that since the closest thing from the Creator who had cast them
    here or imprisoned them here, they retained some of these special powers of creation within
    themselves and as time went on, these powerful beings that could basically move objects, huge
    objects just by mind power alone began to lose these powers because they began to interbreed
    with the original species here, so there was an original species here. And the laws came out to
    command them to start interbreeding once again to get back to the original forms where they
    could use this “mental ability” you might say; the royalty, the elite of every country as well. If
    you look at flags of every country you’ll see all of the symbols of what you think of today as the
    illuminati. You’ve got the rising sun for Japan. You’ve got the dragon which is China and so you
    can go on and on and the modern flags have so many pyramids on them it’s incredible. The
    Union Jack is ‘illumined man’, is Andrew’s Cross with the Templar Cross in the middle. Every
    flag you look at. South American flags are just amazing with their pyramids, so it’s everywhere.
    It’s a worldwide aristocracy and that’s the reason for their intense inbreeding. If they breed out of
    their stock, the offspring will not have the powers; and here’s the key to it. They believe so
    intensely in reincarnation of their own original spirits into their own family lineages that they
    must have the DNA of the family lineage to keep the perfect body so that the perfect spirit will
    manifest itself into it. Do you understand that so far? They used to have a ceremony of the
    “opening of the mouth” they called it. When a pharaoh died, they go through this elaborate
    ceremony, this was to retain the spirit of the deceased pharaoh, and then they would transplant it
    literally, supposedly, into his son. Therefore, you could be a host for your own spirit and your
    father’s at the same time. If the son wasn’t there at the time, they claimed that they could
    transplant the spirit or energy into a statue – a statue could be anything, a container, in other
    words, or a scientific device, who knows? – and then bring it back out later when the son arrived
    home. All of the world aristocracy believe in this intensely, and that’s why they believe they are
    so clever and they are the original physical DNA of the original bodies that the fallen ones
    created, and they are also hosting the spirits of the original angels that fell here.
    Jackie: Their god is Jove?
    Alan: [Their god is] Jove, Jupiter, Lucifer is just as good.
    Jackie: You were talking about the elite and their bloodlines and I asked if their god was Jove
    and you said yes, Jove, Jupiter, actually Lucifer. When I did a search you were on at one time
    and you had said that Jove, Jehovah, Jupiter, “by George” were all the same “god.” I’ve come to
    that realization more and more as this book is being compiled because I’ve done searches and I
    found an old Masonic – this was like 200 years ago and they said that a song was played to the
    tune of “God Save the King”, which I found out is also the tune that “My Country ‘Tis of Thee”
    is sung to. They talked in there about Lord, Jove, Jehovah, God is how it was said, and so that
    was a Masonic song. Do you know that one of the definitions of a Noahite is a Freemason when
    you look up the word in the dictionary, so the freemasonry, these people who are Christians who
    join freemasonry, do they all know this?
    Alan: —Not at the bottom. Even the so-called laws that were given for all the gentiles meant
    and this is pre-Hebrew.
    Jackie: I understand the word Hebrew was a word that meant “Habiru” that it meant dusty one
    or wanderer.
    Alan: Wanderer, yes.
    Jackie: Like a Nomad?
    Alan: Long before that, supposedly, is at the end of another age when they talk about the flood.
    Noah was chosen to come through with his family, and it tells you right at the beginning of the
    chapter, the only reason that he was picked was that he was perfect in his generations, meaning
    perfect in his bloodline. He had not married outside of his bloodline, so we’re back to genetics
    again.
    Jackie: Sarah was Abraham’s half-sister, according to the Old Testament, and Moses married
    his aunt. It was some family.
    Alan: It’s a eugenics program really. It’s the eugenics of the body and supposedly the spirit.
    Even the Roman elite, it doesn’t matter where they’ve gone or who they’ve called themselves in
    times gone past or what empire they ruled, when the Greek elite moved into Rome and created
    Rome they took all their customs with them. The Greek elite also had the Lares, the fire which
    represented the family spirits, as they did when they went into Rome and reconstructed the same
    system. The fire was always representative of your own family lineages’ spirits which would
    reincarnate into your grandson.
    Jackie: Is that what that eternal flame stands for?
    Alan: Yes. It means belonging to Lucifer. The flame means Lucifer. The lesser flames or ‘points
    of light’ belong to the army of Lucifer.
    Jackie: Is the religion of the Jews today, Talmudism or Phariseeism according to the Jewish
    Encyclopedia that Judaism today traces its history back through the ages without a break to the
    Pharisees, so it would really be called Phariseeism, probably. Is that a part of it today? When you
    look into some of these websites when you’re checking into the Noahide Laws, then it says the
    Noahide Laws are only for the non-Jews. They give a couple of reasons, either because the
    gentiles rejected the Ten Commandments, that the Ten Commandments are only for the Jews
    because they were the ones that were there by the Mount when they were given, and so the
    Noahide Laws–
    Alan: There were no Jews.
    Jackie: But that’s what they call them today. So the Noahide Laws, there’s seven of them.
    Actually, one is thou shall not. It is a law that would establish tribunals and then the punishment
    – this is right out of their own website so it isn’t a figment of my imagination and I’d read this
    before, but until I saw it in their own website for some reason I just kind of doubted it. But the
    only penalty for the breaking of one of the Noahide Laws is death, and the only mode of death is
    decapitation. What they are saying is the reason their messiah has not returned yet is because the
    world isn’t ready for him, because enough people have not accepted “The Torah,” because that’s
    what the Noahites will be referred to, as Hasidic Gentiles. It is written in one of the books I read
    that any man, woman or child that does not embrace The Torah will be exterminated. Now do
    you think that they have something beyond that? It’s in their own website. They explain all this.
    Alan: The easiest thing to do, and this guy will come on your program, is to ask that Rabbi
    Stevak back on. He will come on because he was on Alex Jones’ show.
    Jackie: Do you think if I called him he would come on Sweet Liberty? What would I bring him
    on and ask him?
    Alan: Whatever you want. Yes, ask him because all the hate laws are now in effect that were in
    the Soviet Union. The hate laws are in effect now. Understand? They’ve been passed
    everywhere and they’re being enforced everywhere.
    Jackie: Well, from my understanding, the hate laws are actually the implementation of a
    genocide treaty and the implementing legislation was what created the hate laws.
    Alan: Not really. There was a big two-year conference ongoing in a university in the U.S. to
    draft something up, again, for world peace; and on that, they had the bare bones of what would
    become the hate laws. They had many reviews and updates of it, but they are in effect now.
    Jackie: This broadcast here in the U.S. and there are other broadcasts that have addressed the
    “Jewish question” and there have not been any lawsuits or any fines or anything like that going
    on.
    Alan: The last place to go will be the U.S. because they’re still completing the ‘Great Work’.
    Once it’s done that, then you’ll see the same laws implemented.
    Jackie: So that we won’t be able to have these discussions?
    Alan: Absolutely, and that’s the intent of them. You won’t even be able to ask a question along
    that line. A child won’t be able to ask a question. That’s how totalitarian things stand at the
    moment.
    Jackie: You gave us a nutshell of what they’re design is, so to speak, and their belief system, but
    it doesn’t feel finished. I don’t feel like I understand this. How to we relate that to today?
    Alan: Today, the ancient elite who ran the world, the natural aristocracy that Jefferson called
    them, are scattered through all peoples and they can adopt any religion actually and they become
    one of the people. They become the heroes of the people and it doesn’t matter what country you
    go into; it’s the same ceremonies at the top.
    Jackie: The questions that I have are for example in the Old Testament, and I studied
    metaphysics and it was said that there is an esoteric – there is symbolic and there is some actual
    real history, but I think a lot of what we’ve been given as history was not, or it was twisted and it
    was torped. We have a situation where there is the God Jehovah or Yahweh. There are people
    who say the name is not Jehovah it is Yahweh and that god chose a certain group of people to be
    his special people who were going to rule over the earth. There are Christians who say because
    they’ve studied the bloodline – I mean as far as who we are it seems simple that Jesus said “that
    by their fruits ye shall know them”, not by the color of your skin, bloodline or whatever…
    Alan: “By their works.”
    Jackie: …Or what religion you choose to believe in, but it is how we be. Yet the people who
    have studied the bloodlines are absolutely convinced that it is the white Anglo-Saxon I guess, the
    Nordic that is the chosen of that Yahweh in the Old Testament.
    Alan: Some of them are. All of that sect began in the late 1800’s with a guy who emerged in
    London and declared all this stuff. He demanded that the king abdicate and he’d take over, and so
    he was locked up in an insane asylum.
    Jackie: Because he looked at the bloodlines and said “I should be on the throne”?
    Alan: Yes. He put in a formal request; and when Queen Victoria was in, another guy did exactly
    the same and demanded that she abdicate so he could get himself on the throne, and he also
    ended up in the asylum. Then, of course, the elite thought this could be a good tool, you see,
    because division is fantastic when you’re destroying everything at the end of an age and so then
    they promoted the ‘British Israel’ theory.
    Jackie: It’s called a lot of stuff, British Israelism?
    Alan: Israel foundation. You’ll find that the offices are the same as the World Zionist
    Federation. The British Israelite Foundation, which all these characters belonged to, is the same
    address as the World Zionist Federation.
    Jackie: The British Israelites and the Zionist Foundation have the same address?
    Alan: That’s right, and all modern Christians who attend church are Zionists.
    Jackie: They’re being taught that today, aren’t they?
    Alan: They’ve been taught it for a long, long time – a hundred-odd years at least.
    Jackie: Yes, but it’s really becoming widespread today. Our webmaster was telling me in the
    little church that they attend that there was a song that they sang “We are Repossessing” and he
    told me the words. In fact I’ve got the words to that song in the book “Jewish Persecution”, but
    basically it says we are repossessing every square inch of land, and I said how could you relate
    that to anything Christian? He said, “what we we’re told was this.” The Jews are denied the
    messiah so the promises of the covenant went to the Christians and now we’re the ones that are
    going to evidently own and control the world. It’s very confusing and it’s disturbing because it’s
    almost as though we have to be double-minded to believe this.
    Alan: Most people are. I mean any follower of anything is a fool to begin with. If you can’t
    think for yourself and take your own path and you must follow, you can be guaranteed you’ve
    been led up the garden path. That’s why democracy works for the elite. Everybody who’s born
    has a chance to be their own leader, but 87 percent have always chosen to follow somebody else
    because they can’t think for themselves. They’re too lazy to think for themselves. That’s the
    problem, and then they wonder what’s happened to the world they thought was theirs as it’s
    pulled from under their feet.
    Jackie: A lot of them don’t wonder because they believe that this is God’s plan and that when it
    all falls apart Jesus is going to be here. He’s going to be on his throne in Jerusalem and he’s going
    to be ruling the world. It says in the Bible “that my kingdom is not of this world” and he said “I
    came here for one purpose into this world and that was to bear witness unto the truth” and the
    way it appears to me, he was exposing this and got killed for it and he may as well have saved
    his breath.
    Caller: When I hear that we are too lazy to think and we are too lazy to do this and that. In the
    meantime, we’ve been fed fluoride in the water. We’ve been dulled down with vaccinations and
    now we’re supposed to take the blame for not being able to think. I think there’s something
    wrong. What do you think?
    Jackie: It is true that they have certainly done one job with the food, with the fluoride in the
    water and the type of food.
    Alan: For 2,000 years the public, regardless of the denomination or even country, followed
    these religious leaders blindly without all the inoculations, et cetera.
    Jackie: Jesus was exposing this.
    Alan: Oh yes.
    Jackie: Now today people call themselves Judeo-Christians or Christian Zionists.
    Alan: Well, you see, it’s an abusive father.
    Caller: It’s very interesting what he said that all of the churches today, it’s true. They really are
    Jewish centers. Really they’ve become Judeaized, willing they do this. But I just wanted to say
    the Jews secretly worshipped Lucifer. I know this is true. However, I wonder if your guest will
    agree with me, they are the wrath of God’s anger. By the way, the Jews are the seed line of
    Lucifer, the Lord does allow this to happen because we deserve it.
    Alan: That’s the typical abused mentality that comes out – the abused person. If you follow the
    Bible you’re leading a path of mind abuse, because you can’t have a loving father who also
    allows sadism to happen. In other words, the God of the Bible has nothing to do with the Creator
    at all. That’s the key to it. The Old Testament is a compilation borrowed from many other
    countries of stories which are techniques on how to control others.
    Jackie: And you had said that their god is Lucifer.
    Alan: Albert Pike said it in one of the highest Masonic books ever written and so did Madame
    Blavatsky. She called her newspaper Lucifer, eventually called the Lucius Trust. Lucifer was the
    rebel. He was the chief magician amongst the angels and he led a rebellion against the Creator
    himself supposedly. According to the elite, man would be in darkness today (meaning ignorance
    and primitiveness and “arrested civilization” as they call it), if Lucifer hadn’t brought intellect
    and intelligence down to show the people and to rule over the people. This is the religion of all
    aristocracy. That’s what they all believe in.
    Jackie: So Jove, Jupiter, Zeus, and Jehovah are all one and the same?
    Alan: They’re all the same but Jupiter and Jove also mean “the hidden god”, hidden from the
    public. That’s what it means.
    Jackie: Zeus was the Greek god, lord of the world. In Rome, Jupiter was Zeus-Pater, God the
    Father, became Zeus and Jupiter are one and the same. But then Jove and Jupiter are also said to
    be one and the same. Which of the gods are hidden gods?
    Alan: You see, it’s all allegory. It’s not real beings. It’s allegory for the hidden god that the
    public must never know about until the right time. In other words, it’s another front-name for
    Lucifer, always was the hidden god, but not the Creator. It’s the hidden god of the system of this
    world.
    Jackie: The God of this world. I remember reading where Jehovah had said when I made the
    covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob they only knew me as the Lord God Almighty, but I am
    going to take you to be my people and I’m going to be to you a god. That is pretty loud and clear,
    Alan.
    Alan: The story about coming out of the desert or Egypt and meeting Melchizedek is very
    important because Melchizedek was worshipped by them as a living God on earth. They gave
    him the full worshipping rights of a god, a deity, the supposed slaves that came out of Egypt; and
    the key is that every illumined man who works up through the degrees and goes round the clock
    becomes a god on earth. Every illumined man in their system who comes up the degrees
    becomes a god.
    Alan Watt on
    “Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
    August 26, 2004
    http://WWW.CUTTINGTHROUGHTHEMATRIX.COM
    http://www.alanwattsentientsentinel.eu
    Jackie: Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Our guest is Alan Watt. I told you last night about
    the tetanus shot that a lot of children get. I think it’s either 9th or 10th grade but it’s a booster shot
    and I gave you information on it. I won’t repeat it all. The one thing I forgot to tell you is that in
    the particular schools to which I was referring they had these opt-out forms in the office and it
    wasn’t found out until the mother of this child was jumping through hoops trying to get a hold of
    the form knowing that it did exist. So for any of you who have children in school and if they’re
    insisting on them getting vaccinated of any type, go into vaccination liberation, the website, and
    you can look up the ingredients of any of the vaccines. Thimerosal I believe is a preservative
    that’s in all of them that I know of. It is a form of mercury. They use formaldehyde as a
    detoxifier and they use aluminum and all of these are neurotoxins. They are poison not just to the
    brain cell, but as Alan pointed out last night to the entire nervous system. So just call the school
    office and don’t ask if they have them. Just say I want one of the opt-out forms to opt my child
    out of having the vaccine because it is against my religious beliefs. That’s all you have to say. I
    don’t know the law in every state but that I know of every state has one type of an opt-out option
    for parents. Let me share our spiritual message with you. This from Psalm 139:23, 24.
    “Search me father and know my heart. Test me and know my anxious thoughts. See if
    there is any offensive way in me and led me in the way everlasting.”
    To me that is the same as where Jesus said that we must know ourselves. Know thyself, he said.
    There is nothing more to know and if the Kingdom of God is within us as Jesus said then
    wouldn’t that make sense that to know ourselves is the most important thing? If we know
    ourselves maybe that is all that there is to know. And thank you for being with us again.
    Alan: It’s a pleasure.
    Jackie: I received an email from a lady today and she said she was very confused and didn’t
    even really know what it was all about and I urged her to listen tonight.
    Alan: We’ve already gone through the fact that this plan has been ongoing for the complete
    reordering of the world for thousands of years basically, and that this crucial point of the change
    you might say to global governance and a new way of living for everyone, they have to dumb the
    public down even more so than they had ever done before. They have been using inoculations,
    primarily, to lobotomize the public and the IQ has been dropping substantially from especially
    the ’50’s onwards. This is a deliberate dumbing down for a purpose because you cannot have a
    literate public worldwide during the time of massive change where all morality is reconfigured
    into a new morality with new ways of doing everything, so this agenda was all planned. We’re
    expected to always believe that everything that happens in history is just bungling and accidents
    by governments and scientists, and that’s so far from the truth it’s incredible. Everything that
    happens is planned that way. They knew that there were over 100 live simian, which is
    chimpanzee or monkey, viruses in every shot of polio before they gave it to the public. The
    Simian 40 virus, it’s only function is to create tumors and cancers. That’s all it does. I’ve got the
    videotape. The CBC, which documents everything, is the leading government station, played an
    old black and white replay one boring Sunday and it was about Dr. Salk and there’s quips in it
    and his co-workers, and they talk about the fact that they were aware that these viruses were
    alive and that they were hazardous not only to your basic health but long-term health, and they
    knew that the Simian 40 virus would cause cancers. Other ones would attack the central nervous
    system. Some of them even caused sterilization. Now when you realize that was all part of an
    ancient policy, was exactly that, to cull the population and reduce the population by sterilization
    and by early deaths, we’ve never had such a spate of brain tumors in the very young as we have
    since 1950 onwards. This has done its job and it’s not by bungling. It’s by deliberation.
    Jackie: Didn’t Dr. Salk say that one of the viruses’ only function was to cause brain tumors?
    Alan: That’s right, cancers of all kinds and that was the Simian 40, but that’s only one of many
    of them.
    Jackie: Did you say that this was an ancient thing that they did, back in ancient days?
    Alan: In ancient times you’ll find records from the Egyptians, the priests wrote everything down
    like all bureaucrats do and that’s what the old priesthoods really were. They were bureaucrats and
    they wrote all the signs and symptoms of population control. That also meant having docile
    populations and they tried to even reduce calories. They tried feeding them certain things,
    omitting proteins to keep them docile and placid and yet strong enough to do the work. This has
    been an ongoing thing for thousands of years. Then of course Malthus who was the top
    economist for the British East India Company in the 1600’s eventually wrote his book on
    population. That was introduced in the early 1700’s and he advised raising people, the masses he
    said, the expendable masses, the surplus and building housing over swamplands where they’d be
    infected by mosquitoes and would die of diseases and so they had all these beautiful ways to cull
    people off that they didn’t need anymore. This has been an ongoing thing.
    Jackie: What do you know about DDT; I have read articles that suggest that they stopped using
    it because it was so effective in keeping down the mosquitoes populations and what do
    mosquitoes cause? Either yellow fever and malaria. And that today in the modern world, in some
    of the third world countries people are dying, dropping like flies from malaria. Do you think that
    DDT was effective and maybe more harmless if there is such a thing?
    Alan: What they did in fact was to try and ban DDT and they still show these same clips in
    science shows for children today. They show you always these birds, generally seagulls giving
    birth to these jelly-like type eggs where the eggshell was almost non-existent and this was the
    main proof that DDT was harmful to nature, but what they didn’t tell the public, although the
    information is available on request, is that they fed these captive seagulls nothing but DDT!
    Obviously Africa has been slated for a long time for massive depopulation. However, a
    colleague of Salk who did the polio vaccine was Joseph Gallo and he’s the character who got the
    main contract to create the AIDS disease. They’re all well connected. If you look at Frederick
    Banting who’s held up as a hero in history for developing, amongst other things, insulin for
    diabetes control; he came from Alliston, Ontario, Canada but this man was the top bacteriologist
    for germ warfare during World War II. When you read his memoirs and what he was
    developing, he was developing diseases which would wipe out everybody with a German gene in
    their body, and he said in his own memoirs and anybody can go and find the memoirs of
    Banting. He said “I won’t be happy until everyone with a German gene is extinct from this
    planet”. This is a great hero who’s got statues up to him for helping children in diabetes. Yes, and
    also he developed a disease which would be spread amongst cattle and the idea was to kill off the
    food production in Germany and strangely enough has all the same symptoms as what we call
    Mad Cow disease today. Isn’t that a coincidence? Every major figure they give you in history is
    really one of the elite and they are mass murderers.
    Jackie: You said a long time ago that every hero that we have in our minds was given to us. I
    have discovered in my research that at least the heroes that we were taught in school were heroes
    are no longer heroes.
    Alan: Even Thomas Jefferson in his own memoirs says that he was corresponding with Malthus
    and that he was very interested in his theories on population control. That’s Jefferson’s own
    writings.
    Jackie: Alan, when you read stuff that they allegedly said; did they say or was this all made up
    some of the good things they said?
    Alan: The good things are just what they’re advisors would tell them the people would want to
    hear. That’s always been the way. In their own memoirs they say complete opposite things. It’s
    like Winston Churchill who had a whole nation rise up to fight supposedly the Germans and I
    believe to be honest that Hitler was setup by the same bunch too. I really do. In fact, World War
    II had to happen because there was only two ways out of the situation they created in Germany.
    One was to change the initial demands of the Versailles Treaty, or for Germany to go to war, so
    they supplied the right man at the right time and they got their way anyway. Meanwhile,
    Churchill is over on the other side directing a war that had not started before he was the prime
    minister with his own agents working for him and preparing for World War II, telling the public
    when it began that they’d fight on the beaches and all this rot. Now his personal secretary has
    come out with a book called “The Fringes of Power” and it’s got all the private conversations of
    Churchill with his own inner elite class and he says, “This is the best thing that ever happened for
    us. We shall have our long way to dream of a united Europe”, which is exactly what Hitler
    wanted. There’s your paradox. However, to the public, oh yes we’re going to fight on the
    beaches. It’s the same old stuff over and over.
    Jackie: Here in the United States of America they were actually involving U.S. soldiers in the
    fighting and in the war before war had been declared by the U.S. Congress, while he was making
    his promises to the American people that your sons will not go to war. Not fight.
    Alan: The same premise that Wilson ran on in World War I. You just tell the public what they
    want to hear that’s all, and they still do.
    Jackie: Wasn’t it George Poppy Bush that said “read my lips”?
    Alan: In 1990, he first gave his major speech about the New World Order and he saw it coming
    into view, et cetera, et cetera. That was September 11th and then he repeated it one year later on
    September the 11th, same thing. It’s the old occult Masonic way and so meanwhile America is
    being stripped of pretty well any right that you thought you had. You just haven’t seen it totally
    enforced yet.
    Jackie: They’re probably waiting to pull of one more terrible – they keep telling us it is going to
    happen. We don’t when. We don’t where. We don’t know how, but we know that there will be
    another and it will be worse than the World Trade Center; and anybody who thinks that only
    3,000 people died there isn’t thinking.
    Alan: It’s amazing what’s pulled off in front of our eyes even though the New American Century
    agenda, the booklet was produced in 1997 with the same players we saw during the second Gulf
    War involved Rumsfeld and all the rest of them and they said we’ll have to eventually take
    Afghanistan first and then Iraq second, then Iran and Syria and so on. They write about it. They
    tell you about it and then at the same time another major player Zbigniew Brzezinski comes out
    with “The Grand Chessboard” saying exactly the same things in the same sequence and he says
    “we’ll need something on the scale of Pearl Harbor to motivate the American people into action
    behind us.” It was about ’98.
    Jackie: I’ve got this on audio tape that was day one of 9/11 and I taped the whole day and they
    brought Henry Kissinger out of a meeting and they said please tell us what you’re thinking here
    or whatever and he said, “this is the same as Pearl Harbor and it needs to be handled exactly the
    way Pearl Harbor was handled.” I have that on videotape.
    Alan: It’s all orchestrated. In this mystery religion we’re talking about, behind it all, they have a
    saying, which they use on the Star Trek episodes by Mr. Spock, that the few must perish to save
    the many. It’s a sacrifice and that to them was worth having. This goes on and on and on and it’s
    not just a reorganization of the basics of living in the world. It’s going to be a complete
    reorganization of every individual’s life where ultimately if they allow you to be born it will be
    with a need for you to be trained at something and there will be no surplus whatsoever. No
    excess population and your duty will be to serve the world state.
    Jackie: Workforce development is the implementation of that.
    Alan: Yes. It’s all out in front of us for anyone to go and investigate. People who live in duality
    want to believe the nice men in the nice suits and ties who say such nice things to us and really
    care about us and then they can read the other information at the same time if they want to stay in
    duality, that’s their problem because we know where they’re going to end up.
    Jackie: Back in the ’40’s there was a teachers union meeting held in I believe Philadelphia. I do
    have the actual agenda, a copy of the pamphlet and it’s called “Educating for One World.” This
    was in the ’40’s, and they said the needs of the children on the list was that the children will be
    educated – trained I believe for the new needs of labor and that’s exactly what you just said, isn’t
    it?
    Alan: That’s right and that’s also in Brzezinski’s other work called “The Technetronic Era”
    where he goes through the fact that the elite only need a technological class now to serve them.
    They don’t need the laboring classes.
    Jackie: And specifically, Hillary is quoted as saying that children don’t need to learn to read, as
    long as they are properly trained for their jobs that they’re going to be trained to do.
    Alan: In other words, what you’re seeing is being implemented all over. It’s the exact same
    system only on a larger scale than the Soviet Union. It was all done in the Soviet Union with
    Pavlovian training. In the memoirs of Eleanor Roosevelt, she talks about that because she went
    over to Russia to meet her hero Pavlov and she said they trained the children so well using his
    methods they don’t have a personality of their own.
    Caller: What most people don’t know is that homeopathy can reverse these injections and heal
    the body, and if anybody is really concerned about the health of their children they can give
    vaccinations through homeopathy which is totally harmless to the body and protects it. So if
    anybody wants to check into this I would suggest that they get to a naturopath of homeopathy
    and check this out because I know it works.
    Alan: I know that there are treatments that help to detoxify certain heavy metals especially like
    mercury. They can be sort of flushed out over a certain period. It tends to be rather expensive
    though. They call it chelation.
    Jackie: Dr. Carley has been on this broadcast. She lost her medical license in New York
    because her son had gotten real ill and she’s a medical doctor but since she lost her medical
    license and she started treating her son homeopathically and they took her son away from her.
    The father has guardianship now and they have told her if she didn’t shut up about homeopathy
    that she’d never see him again. Dr. Carley has not shut up because she said there are many
    people who need to know this, although I have never heard her talk about vaccines that work that
    are healthy.
    Alan: Really, vaccination is bogus because a healthy body doesn’t contract the various diseases.
    Most people have had tuberculosis for instance and that’s why they send everyone for an x-ray
    and they find a little scar tissue on their lung. That means you’ve been exposed to it but you’ve
    fought it off and you’ve overcome it.
    Jackie: My dad came down with diabetes and Jody was seven years old at the time and she had
    come to visit so they did tests and they found scar tissue on her lungs but they weren’t sure they
    said whether it was scar tissue or active TB. They said they couldn’t tell so they were going to
    treat her and if there was no change then they would know that it was a scar tissue from TB that
    her body healed and that’s what it turned out to be. But meantime, I let them give Jody the
    therapy. I didn’t know any better.
    Alan: They can tell immediately if you have active TB because they give you the old Mantoux
    test on your wrist.

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