Alan Watt & Jackie Patru – Sweet Liberty Radio – april 2005

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“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

April 6, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday the 6th of April in the year 2005 and I hope you’re day was as lovely as our day was here today. It was 80 degrees here, just unreal. Alan Watt is with us tonight.

Let me begin with our spiritual message and we’ll bring Alan up. This we did last night from John 18 verse 37 when Pilate asked Jesus, “Are you a king? Jesus said, “You say that I’m a king. To this end was I born and for this cause came I into the world that I should bear witness unto the truth. Everyone that is of the truth hears my voice.“

It’s pretty clear to me. Hello Alan Watt.

Alan:  Hello.

Jackie:  Thank you for being here tonight.

Alan:  Yes, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Yes, it’s a pleasure.

Alan:  It’s pouring rain here.

Jackie:  Oh my gosh, Alan. It’s 80 degrees. I had every window in the house open and I went out and I spread a couple of bales of hay in the chicken’s yard. It was muddy out there and I got all the hay off my perennials and got leaves out of the flower gardens and stuff. It was beautiful. It’s just so exciting.

Alan:  Well, it’s the spring, eh?

Jackie:  It is and it’s amazing what a nice day can do for our energy level, isn’t it?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Well gosh, Alan, you know we have to have these times, for me, the information, that stuff that we have learned and the lies that we have been told and that darkness that is in this world, it is so nice to have the break like this sometimes, isn’t it?

Alan:  It is.

Jackie:  It’s good for what ails you. It’s good for the soul.

Alan:  Yes. Unfortunately though, I watched them spraying all day yesterday until they turned the whole sky into just polymer mush and they’re going after it big time.

Jackie:  Today was sunny here. The skies were blue and the clouds were white and puffy.

Alan:  That’s the real thing.

Jackie:  Oh it is. This has been a rare day. Yes, it’s lovely. I’ve been printing out some stuff. You had mentioned this and I had gotten some information on it, Alan. These are the Top-Off they’re calling it and I got this right from the U.S. government’s website, U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Top Officials Three Exercise. Okay, that’s what they’re calling it, “Top Off Three”.  Top Officials Three Exercise, whatever that means, is a congressionally mandated exercise designed to strengthen the nation’s capacity to prevent, prepare for, respond to and recover from large scale terrorist attacks involving weapons of mass destruction. Then it goes on and of course as we’ve talked about and I mentioned it last night to our listeners. It isn’t just here in the U.S. It’s in Canada. It’s in the UK and the two states that are involved are New Jersey and Connecticut and they’re underway between the fourth and the eighth of this month.

Alan:  I hear too that they also had some British and some French aircraft and so on and military personnel over here, so it’s international.

Jackie:  That’s what I said, Canada and the UK.

Alan:  It’s quite something but I did hear there is going Eskimo rebellion and that’s probably what it’s all about.

Jackie:  Yeah, an Eskimo rebellion.

Alan:  We set up communist Russia. We set up and financed communist China. We gave China – well, we didn’t give it, but the boys that run us gave China all the industry, so who on earth is there anyway that’s going to do all of this chaos?

Jackie:  All we have to do is look at the Trading With the Enemy Act here in the U.S. and we see that according to the U.S. government incorporated that we the people in America are the enemy.

Alan:  Yes, that’s right. That makes sense. Because that’s what the Soviets did. The Soviets really had no or the Bolsheviks had no real enemies once they had their borders and to contain people, and Lenin said it, to contain people and make them obedient you must have a reign of terror within and of course that’s when they started looking within for terrorists. The same thing in the French Revolution until it go so carried away in the French Revolution that if you looked at someone the wrong way you were a terrorist and had your head lopped off, but this is the same thing. For them to maintain complete control in a global society under one government, they have to create this so-called terrorism within. You know the Goldstein of 1984. Who was Goldstein? Goldstein leads the terrorists. Where are they? They’re everywhere and that’s what they have to do. This is an old science and they’re simply using the same techniques again and eventually they’ll convince a lot of the general public after they’ve introduced the psychological testing that they’re potential terrorists and they didn’t know it. And the people will thank them for protecting them.

Jackie:  Like they tell young children today that they’re homosexuals and I recall this so clearly. It was on the news and they did this testing in school and a 14-year old boy, they told him he was homosexual and when they asked him how he felt about it, he said I don’t know because I didn’t know I was. But possibly that boy believed them, Alan.

Alan:  Lots of them are doing it because they’re being told – I mean you wouldn’t believe how indoctrinated in sexuality we are prior to even puberty by adults with agendas and they tell them that if you haven’t tried this there might be something wrong with you.

Jackie:  Then we have the President’s New Freedom Commission here. New freedom, don’t you love that?

Alan:  Oh, it’s wonderful.

Jackie:  And that’s the commission that is going to do the screening across the nation – mental health screening and we know just like Winston Smith. We’re mentally ill if we think for ourselves.

Alan:  It’s thought crime.

Jackie:  It’s dog training?

Alan:  It’s thought crime.

Jackie:  Oh, thought crime.

Alan:  And of course Winston when he was picked up and taken to the Ministry of Love, same thing. That’s where they torture you. He met his next-door neighbor and his neighbor said, “don’t come near me Winston” (of course he was a prisoner too). He said, “don’t come near me Winston. I’ve just found out that I’m a thought criminal.” He said, “I didn’t know it myself but my daughter spotted it. Thank God she caught me in time before I did anything.”  And that’s what it will come to here.

Jackie:  Yes it is.

Alan:  And people will thank them.

Jackie:  For telling them that they’re mentally ill?

Alan:  Yes. You have these subconscious aggressions against different things and you might act on them and so we’ve caught you in time and here’s the medical regime and here’s the pills that you take and here’s the office you check into every week for analysis. That will become the norm, only for a while until we get the brain chip out there, which they have. At the Loyola University Meeting that your tax money paid for, the geneticists and the biotech engineers who were there from all over the world said that they have this partial protoplasmic chip all ready to go and it will be inserted in to the brain and it will interface with your cerebral cortex. Basically, everyone will be hooked up to regional computers and you won’t be able to imagine yourself as an individual anymore. It will be more like the beehive. In other words, it will be like the Borg in Star Trek. However, they’re selling the idea, and they said that at that meeting, that all novels, cartoons, and movies will incorporate this in their story lines to make it a thing that the public will want; and sure enough, there’s whole bunch of movies just been released to do with brain chips and applications and how wonderful it can be. That’s how you program the public to accept things.

Jackie:  I would like you to say again what you said about the chip because that can slide by somebody. This chip that actually blends with your own tissue, yes?

Alan:  That’s right. Your body will not reject it because it’s made of some type of protoplasm which is the same as the human type and it was invented in Japan. Some of your listeners may remember maybe 10 years ago when I think it was Sony Corporation announced that they had created a form of computer composed primarily of protoplasmic brain type cells and silicon chips interfaced, they all work together, so this has been tried and tested. They have it all ready to go at the Loyola University meeting they said – and Newt Gingrich was there. He led off the meeting but they said all they have to do now is convince the public of the need to take it and of course they’re going to use this fear of terrorism to advance it.

Jackie:  Yes. While you’re talking I’m going through my Homeland Security file because I’ve got that report, the CFR Phase III Report on National Homeland Security, and Alan, they said something in this. I couldn’t believe it and it was towards the last of it, just exactly what you’re talking about. I couldn’t believe that they actually – well, you go ahead because I think I’m pretty close to where it is and this report by the way was done in what was it, Alan, 1998, 1999 and let me see. Oh, excuse me, the final draft came on the 31st of January 2001 but that was Phase III of it. This thing started sometime in 1998 or 1999 and then of course right after 9/11 out it came and then we got our Department of Homeland Security.

Alan:  This was also planned way in advance and even in Canada here the most senior civil servant in Ottawa who helped draft up the negotiation books for the Free Trade Negotiations, which were the precursors of the NAFTA, she came out afterwards and told the public they’re merging the entire continent starting in 2005 and that’s exactly what they’re doing.

Jackie:  All of this has been going on while the mainstream media pushed Terri Schiavo. Here is a wrap-up if I could on their 14 points. They’re just very short, all of them. We arrived at these 14 conclusions. Now listen to this. Listen to this. I know I’m away from the mike. Listen to their conclusion.

“1. The United States will become increasingly vulnerable to hostile attacks on the American homeland and U.S. military superiority will not entirely protect us.

2. Rapid advances in information and biotechnology will create new vulnerabilities for U.S. security.
3. New technologies will divide the world as well as draw it together.
4. The national security of all advanced states will be increasingly effective by the vulnerabilities of the evolving global economic infrastructure.
5. Energy supplies will continue to have major strategic significance.
6. All borders will be more porous. Some will bend and some will break.
7. The sovereignty of states will come under pressure but will endure as the main principle of international political organization.
8. The fragmentation and failure of some states will occur with destabilizing effects on entire regions.
9. Foreign crisis will be replete with atrocities and the deliberate terror rising of civilian populations.”

Isn’t that what we’re doing over in Iraq today?

Alan:  Oh, I’d say so.

Jackie:  “Space will become a critical and competitive military environment.” (And listen to this). “The essence of war will not change. U.S. intelligence will face more challenging adversaries and even excellent intelligence will not prevent all surprises.”

So they warn us right up front that no matter how many of your liberties and freedoms that we take away, you’re not safe, folks.

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  Well anyway. Oh here. “The United States will be called upon frequently to intervene militarily in time of uncertain alliances and with the prospect of fewer forward deployed forces.”  (And then here’s another one).  “The emerging security environment in the next quarter century will require different U.S. military and other national capabilities.”

Here, listen to this. This is what I was looking for, I think.

            “The commissions stressed on communicating the scale and pace of change has been borne out by extraordinary developments in science and technology in just the 18-month period since the Phase I Report appeared. The mapping of the humane genome was completed. A functioning quantum computing device was invented. Organic and inorganic material was mated at the molecular level for the first time.”

Isn’t that what we’re talking about, Alan?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  “Basic mechanisms of the aging process have been understood at the genetic level. Anyone of these developments would have qualified as a breakthrough of the decade a quarter century ago but they all happened within the past year and a half.”

Alan:  Yes, what a joke.

Jackie:  And there’s just a couple of more here. It says: “This suggests the possible advent of period of change the scale of which will often astound us. The key factor driving change in America’s national security environment over the next 25 years will be the acceleration of scientific discovery and its technological applications and the uneven human social and psychological capacity to harness them. Synergistic developments in information, technology, material science, biotechnology and nanotechnology will almost certainly transport (listen to this) transform human tools more dramatically and rapidly than any time in human history. While it is easy to underestimate the social implications of change on such a scale the need for human intellectual and social adaptation imposes limits to the pace of change. These limits are healthy for they allow and encourage the application (listen to this) of the human moral sense two choices of major import. We will surely have our hands full with such choices over the next quarter century. In that time we may witness the development of a capacity to guide or control evolution (listen, let me do that again).  In that time, we may witness the development of a capacity to guide or control evolution by manipulating human DNA and the ability to join organic and inorganic material formed prospects are both sobering and contentious.”

Wait, I missed a sentence. “The ability to join organic and inorganic material formed suggests that humans may evolve literally with their own machines. Such prospects are both sobering and contentious.”

Alan:  These inventions were made long ago.

Jackie: I want our listeners to know that this report – this Phase III Report, I’m pretty sure it is. They said it, to merge human and organic and inorganic.

Alan:  That basically is the chip too. In other words, they’re talking about the cyborg as well. Part human, part machine and of course I don’t know if you noticed that movie they put out again, “Artificial Intelligence.“

Jackie:  That was sad.

Alan: It also is to leave the person with the subconscious question of what is human anyway. In other words, if a robot can adopt human qualities can we therefore classify them as the new humans; and before you know it, our minds have been made up for us primarily through all the fiction that we’ve watched.

Jackie:  And not only that, but there will be possibly a compassion for these creatures that are being created.

Alan:  Oh yes and the whole law industry for civil rights and all that.

Jackie:  Oh yes. Well remember was it the “Millennium Man,” was that it, with Robin Williams?

Alan:  That’s right. See they’ve already given us a scenario.

Jackie:  Tell our listeners about that.

Alan:  Yes, well that’s the same idea that the guy starts off as a superior type robot and goes through his long, long life and eventually wants to become human because he’s adopted all these qualities and then he goes to court to demand they have the same rights.

Jackie:  And it was the world court and it was a three-man panel. Remember that?

Alan:  Yes, so all of this drama is predictive programming. That’s what they call it and our conclusions are given to us primarily through fiction in advance of the actual events so that we react to these events the same way as the characters in the movie. We accept it in other words and that’s the Tavistock method. It’s an old method.

Jackie:  But they have such a slick way of presenting it, because if you recall when he was up there before the court to get his certificate of what, humanity – what was he trying to get?

Alan:  To be a human being and a citizen.

Jackie:  Yes and he was a total cyborg or whatever you call it, but then one of the judges says well I have an artificial heart and my father had an artificial gizzard or whatever, and basically you sat there and listened to that and you thought, yeah, sure.

Alan:  That’s how they program you.

Jackie:  Exactly. Well I could see it though. That’s one of the beauties of actually knowing. That chapter out of that book that I read to our listeners the last few nights, it’s exactly what it talked about is knowing about the darkness. Knowing the darkness because other than that, how are you going to shed light into it, Alan?

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  And you’ve been very much of a blessing for all of us to open our eyes, open our minds. It’s not been easy at times. You know that, don’t you?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Because there was that spell that I went through for I don’t know how long where I thought I was in some other place and there was nothing that I looked at that looked real to me and it was such a confusing place to be, Alan, but somehow we settle in with that, don’t we?

Alan:  Yes, that’s right.

Jackie:  Sort of like an initiation.

Alan:  Most people actually float through their lives through all the changes in almost a dreamlike state – just like they floated through the transfer of all industry to China. Most people sort of vaguely remember something about that but they’re not quite sure, even though everything is made in China and it never dawned on them why was it a mandate for American and Canadian business to be moved to China? I mean this is coming from the top. They float through their lives and the changes and they accept that. Plato talked about this whole scenario 2,400 years ago and of course they were part of the Mystery Religion of his day and they talked about the perfect state, which was a prototype of the perfect world state, where they would create – the guardian class, that’s the elite who run the whole show, would have this lesser elite of “technocrats” you might call them.

Jackie:  Those would be the minions?

Alan:  The technocrats would be the high bureaucrats and the scientists combined, and then they have the people below them that do all the work and they would breed these people just like they bred hybrid animals for specific tasks. They would mate them up with specific women, and for tall guys that would pick apples for instance and the small squat guys who would do mining, and they said this is the perfect society and the majority of the people in Plato’s “Republic” were not called people. They were called ITS.

Jackie:  ITS?

Alan:  Yes, you’re either a human being or you’re an IT.

Jackie:  Only you were a human being if you were part of the elite?

Alan:  Yes and everyone else was an IT, and of course that’s another way of using aristocracy and nobility and the commoners. The commoners are the ITS, you see, so nothing has changed.

Jackie:  Maybe we’re mankind and they’re ITS.

Alan:  Well, they’re not an IT. They are an infection that shouldn’t be here. They are THE infection. They are the deviants, a deviant species.

Jackie:  When we say “they,” are we talking about the royal Khazars?

Alan:  It’s all royalty across the planet in all countries. You’ll find that the Japanese ones have connection with the British ones and so on going way, way back for thousands of years before even the Khazars.

Jackie:  And their ancestors had red hair probably?

Alan:  Some of them certainly did, we know that, even the ones going into China with some of the mummies of these red-haired people. Of course, this all stems really from what they called the Aryan race that came into India and also had links with Iran and other parts of the Middle East.

Jackie:  Okay. I don’t understand this Aryan race thing. We’re going to take a 60 second break here. Well, that took 10 minutes but we don’t do that often, have all these long commercials, and besides that, they’re worthwhile, aren’t they, Alan?

 

Alan:  You know the people eventually won’t need to use shortwave because they’ll have the chip in their head and they’ll have music playing all the time, elevator music.

Jackie: Or rap.

Alan:  Well, it will be rap for the military because they’ve got to be aggressive. For the public it will be elevator music.

Jackie:  I remember you saying that you saw a news thing when they were sending a shipload of America boys, young men, women, girls over to Iraq and they had war paint on their faces.

Alan:  The guys had their shirts off and some of them had baggy pants on.

Jackie:  And doing and rap music and dancing and you said that the thought that came into your mind was they’re sending the barbarians over there.

Alan:  Yes, we’re sending the barbarians into one of the oldest civilizations in the world and this barbarian generation was deliberately created to do just this.

Jackie:  Generation X.

Alan:  They were dumbed down, given video games to kill, kill, kill. The state gave them whatever values they desired and their boss is their paymaster and they’ve got the most primitive form of music ever devised – scientifically devised and it works very well.

Jackie:  The primitive music, the piercing of the body in all places, it takes us right back to the jungle to primitive man.

Alan:  You always get that appearing when you have a generation for warfare. The pirates too, when they were big, they also pierced themselves and put rings and so on.

Jackie:  More than just their ears?

Alan:  Yes, and of course the pirates were all Masons anyway because that was the symbol of their flag.

Jackie:  Well, wait a minute now. You’re not talking about all of them onboard ship, but you’re talking about the pirate captains, yes?

Alan:  You also had them with the mates right down to the long-term crew. Eventually they’d join it as well. In fact if you ever see Gilbert & Sullivan’s movie “The Pirates of Penzance,” or the stage play or whatever, written in the late 1800’s, you’ll actually see a sort of mock ceremony onboard the pirate ship of the Masonic initiation.

Jackie:  “The Pirates of Penzance“? Would you spell that?

Alan:  It’s P-E-N-Z-A-N-C-E, I think it is. That’s just at the course of Cornwall in England. That was one of their big bases, but you’ll see the apprentice sailor with his shirt open, his breast exposed, one of his trouser legs rolled up and torn and I think wearing one shoe and so he’s all ready for the initiation. Then they lay him on the Skull & Bones flag and they pulled him up three times, so that’s him now a Master Mason you see.

Jackie:  Just waiting for the wool to be pulled over his eyes?

Alan:  Yes, and of course Gilbert & Sullivan were high Masons. We see these things all the time but the public don’t know what they’re really looking at and it’s no different from the movies they churn out today. They’re always mocking the public and programming them at the same time. Again, going back to Plato, he said, “we have the ability (meaning the aristocracy) since we give the people their culture; culture does not come from the bottom up. It comes from the top down.”  And he said, “We can change the culture and all the values in one generation and the people involved who lived through it won’t even notice the change.”

Jackie:  Alan, this thought came to me while we were on the air one night. The biodiversity treaty treats humankind, mankind as organisms. In other words, we are no different than above or below. All organisms are the same including the lowest amoeba, and you were talking about this, how they culture us, and then it occurred to me in the pictures that I get in my mind that the world is their Petri dish. We are the organisms that are being cultured.

Alan:  When the Phoenicians went into new lands they had a whole routine that they went through to entice the public down to the beach where they’ll lay out presents and then go back into their boats and watch. They studied the public of a new nation, a new people and they watched their tribal habits and they called it “customs,” and that’s why you have customs ports at every port nowadays and that’s what they did. By understanding the cultures you can interfere and take over the people and the Phoenicians ended up enslaving most of the little villages they took over and turned them into almost semi-automatic production facilities for different items.

Jackie:  Like they are today.

Alan:  Yes. This is an ancient technique and they had their international bankers went with them even as long ago as 2,500 BC.

Jackie:  What were they using for “money” back then?

Alan:  In the beginning they used gold and silver powder and they weighed it and ingots too. It was all done by weights. In fact in Sumer around 5,000 BC you had the standard weights which we still use today. What they were doing at that time was wherever they went to new countries, they introduced their money system where none had existed before because people bartered when they were free. Then they set up a branch office, a bank, introduced their gold and eventually it became of course coin and then told them to put their coin in the bank and they gave them clay facsimiles, just like paper money.

Jackie:  That was back in that era?

Alan:  Yes and once they done that they shipped the gold and silver back out of the country to the major religious temples in the Middle East and those were the banks.

Jackie:  I’ve become real intrigued with the question about gold, gold more than silver. I got some information mailed to me by one of our listeners quite a while ago and it told about the use of gold for many – well, I shouldn’t have even brought it up because I cannot recall, but it went far beyond using gold as “money” or a means of exchange or riches or wealth, but there’s something to gold that’s very important to them.

Alan:  I know. There’s a whole bunch of stuff out there put out by Gardner from one of the Masonic institutions in England. I mean I’m telling you the people on the internet who phone me swallow everything that’s out there.

Jackie:  Okay. Well, I’m not saying I swallowed it but maybe this is the same thing you’re talking about. But what are you talking about?

Alan:  The gold was simply – these guys had been into mining very early on. I’ve no doubt they learned it from long before Sumer, they had to of, and they had a monopoly on their mines and so they got metals that were fairly rare, had monopolies on them and forced that on the countries round about and overseas. As they were doing that, they were creating an international standard of weights and measures and a value system.

Jackie:  But what made them valuable?

Alan:  Because they forced it on as a means of exchange instead of having real goods to exchange with others. It’s a method of control.

Jackie:  In other words, they could have chosen anything. They could have chosen nickel?

Alan:  I don’t think they should have chosen anything at all. I think they should have left it.

Jackie:  I didn’t say they should. I said they could have.

Alan:  You see this is what it is. Nature should have been left the way it was. That’s the key to it.

Jackie:  I understand that. All I’m saying is why they chose gold.

Alan:  If it was something else that was as rare they would have used it. Sure they would have. Again, gold is often along the same vein as you’ll find silver, it often turns into the gold further on in the same vein, so they had them both in the one mine. You’ll find the Phoenicians–

Jackie:  Silver turns into gold?

Alan:  Silver will go alongside gold often.

Jackie:  But it doesn’t turn into gold?

Alan:  There’s a method – I mean even the white gold you see is a mixture of really the two. You see there’s an in-between and the two distinct ones and you often also find lead also around the same area, but you’ll find the Phoenicians had mines as far as Russia thousands of years ago. What they did was create wars because once they had taken a country over and introduced money, they would get the government, which they then owned, to create a standing army and then they could just use money to pay them. Any country who didn’t go along and accept the same system, they would arm them because they also owned the best weapons of the day, no different from today, and they would invade that country, take it over and force the system on them. In those days they called it “civilization.”  Today they call it “democracy.”

Jackie:  You know Adolph Hitler was bartering. That was one of the things them drove him crazy because according to what I have read, Germany had no gold left after the Weimer Republic and they created a script, just like Abraham Lincoln did, but that they were actually bartering with other nations and they were bartering goods for goods and it drove them nuts. You know what really confirmed it for me? I’ve got a speech here by Cordele Hull. It was on Labor Day and it was when the U.S. – well, it was in 1941, Labor Day and he was talking about international trade and all this. He said if this present war is not won we will be reduced to barter and I knew that he was talking about Adolph Hitler’s barter system and that was driving them absolutely nuts because there were no trade deficits and there were manufactured goods traded for food mostly.

Alan:  Well, I still don’t believe that – I think every peoples get used you know. I really think they all get used. All the nations get used. Even if you think you’re rebelling against them, they’ll put their own men in at the top and guide you along the path.

Jackie:  They put their spin on it too.

Alan:  Because you’ll find that Hitler did have Schacht who was his banker and Schacht was a member of the German and Dutch families that were big bankers. If you look at Roosevelt’s wife, Eleanor Roosevelt, she did a genealogical chart of her husband in one of her books and you’ll find that FDR was related to the Schacht family as well.

Jackie:  When you say Schacht, how are you spelling it?

Alan:  I think it’s S-C-H-A-C-H-T.

Jackie:  Oh, like shocked.

Alan:  FDR was related to Hitler’s banker and the Dutch families as well of the Schacht and Germans, so everything is a play and the public get used and the real theater of war is a theater. It’s a theater you see and to make people believe it was all very real, real people must really die.

Jackie:  Yes, but how many people were told by history in school that Adolph Hitler was bartering? You see, the things that are hidden, Alan, are the things that to me maybe slipped out of their hands, maybe somebody. I considered the same thing with Saddam Hussein, that maybe he was put in power by them. I don’t know but I see the possibility that their minions got away with them. Look at JFK and I think he actually got to thinking that he was the president.

Alan:  So did Reagan, that’s why they shot him.

Jackie:  Yes exactly, but you see they put him in and I understand at that time that there was in Chicago or Illinois specifically a lot of fraudulent votes to get JFK in, but he got in and then suddenly said what the hell is going on here and so he thought he was the president so they killed him. So I’m saying that some of this people slipped through their hands.

Alan:  I think some of them also get carried away. I’ve no doubt Saddam did and no doubt Saddam never really looked at the end of the Cold War because his whole power structure was based on being an American ally during the whole thing.

Jackie:  Well, because America – not America, we’ll say the U.S. government Inc., they were playing with him, I believe.

Alan:  They did finance him and they did give him weaponry.

Jackie:  I know. That’s what I’m saying, but Saddam Hussein was attempting to develop a Pan-Arab collation.Well, that’s something that Israel and the U.S. government isn’t going to stand for.

Alan:  They’ve said that. They’ve said that publicly. Israel came out and said that the New American Century agenda that was drawn up by Wolfowitz and Perle and Rumsfeld and so on, back in the ’90’s, with the agenda attacking first of all Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Iran, then Syria. They said it was identical to their own. That’s what Israel said; so yes, it’s one in the same policy. However, in ancient times, what the historians call “spreading civilization,” it was the same system there as it created empire after empire and spread civilization. They were standardizing a system across the world and today the U.S. is just completing that job and today they call it democracy.

Jackie:  I think we ought to be really contemplating, really considering that we’re going to be some of the ones that slip through their hands because everybody doesn’t fall for it, do they, Alan?

Alan:  No. They know that in every generation there are some who, as they say themselves, “slip through the net,” the ones whose indoctrination doesn’t take so well and they’re clever enough to remain free thinkers and hide it through school. Today, of course, if you show it at school, they put you on drugs.

Jackie:  You know what? For me if this broadcast does anything that it would be to open the eyes, open the minds, open the hearts of our listeners that they would be part of the one that slipped through the net, Alan, and you are part of this. You are so much a part of this of informing us and bringing us out of the Dark Ages, out of the forest.

Alan:  People all claim that they want truth and I tell them – and most people want truth like buying a fast-food hamburger and they don’t realize that they have to do a lot of work.

Jackie:  Yes. We’re out of our hour. You’ll be back with us, won’t you, Alan?

Alan:  Oh yes.

Jackie:  Thanks for being here.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

April 13, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Wednesday and it is the 13th of April in the year 2005 and Alan Watt is with us this evening. I had friend stop by.

Our spiritual message tonight is the pray of Saint Francis of Assisi:

“Father, make me an instrument of your peace. Where there is hatred, let me sow love; Where there is injury, let me so pardon; Where there is doubt, faith; Where there is despair let me so hope; Where there is darkness, let me sow light; And where there is sadness, joy.  Father grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; To be understood as to understand; To be loved as to love; For it is in giving that we receive; It is in pardoning that we are pardoned; And it is in dying that we are born into eternal life.”

Alan, thank you being here tonight.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Always. How has your day been, besides the chemtrail spraying?

Alan:  I got my truck stuck in the field.

Jackie:  Oh no.

Alan:  Yes. I was taking it out there to do some important stuff and it’s just not dry enough.

Jackie:  So did you get it out?

Alan:  No, I spoke to it quietly and left it there.

Jackie:  Oh okay. So do you think it’s going to come in by itself now?

Alan:  Well, I did tell it what would happen to it if it didn’t.

Jackie:  You know what? These things can happen because last summer when the children were here, Brandon got a real bad shock out on the porch and they were plugging in one of their players and instead of connecting the extension cord and then plugging it in. He had already plugged it in and I was in the house. They said his hair stood right up on end. It was a good one and it knocked out some fuses. Well, I got all the fuse things flipped back but my doorbell quit ringing and I thought well there’s something in there. Something like a ballast and I thought well then maybe it’s a ballast and I have to find the company and I was without a doorbell for I cannot tell you how long and then one day suddenly someone came up and rang the doorbell and it’s working without doing anything to it. I like that. So maybe you’ll find your truck up by the house in the morning.

Alan:  Well, I did threaten it.

Jackie:  But you did it quietly?

Alan:  I did it quietly.

Jackie:  Okay. Well Alan there’s something that I would like you to address tonight. I don’t know how to respond. I don’t know that what I say or the way I say it or whatever it is that’s lacking or maybe it isn’t. Maybe it’s just difficult. The one thing that initiated this is I got a call last night from a really nice man and I mean this sincerely and I know that it’s with all of his heart the belief, but basically it was the same thing I get from people who are I guess it’s Christian or Israel identity, but it isn’t Yahweh or Jehovah that god of the Old Testament. The name is wrong. It’s Yahweh; and Alan, what is the difference?

Alan:  Well, to them it’s everything really and that goes way, way back into the Middle East where if you knew the exact pronunciation of the entity or demon, then you would control it. That’s where it all stems from and of course it’s all nonsense because if you’re talking to a creator I’m sure the creator is bright enough to know who you’re talking to.

Jackie:  What about the part in the Old Testament where it says if my people – does it say know my name or something about repent. I wished I knew it word for word. I don’t if you know which one I’m referring to, but I think a lot of stuff is pinned onto that too. “If my people would say my name or know my name, call upon me, I will heal their land.” So that’s to make people think that we have to have a name for Creator?

Alan:  That’s pretty well it. It’s nonsense. If you are speaking to a creator that’s so dumb with a low IQ that if you get the name wrong and he doesn’t hear you, then I think you’re praying to the wrong entity because obviously anything that was a creator knows exactly who you mean.

Jackie:  But this goes along with the fact that it wasn’t the Jews that was the chosen, it was the white Anglo-Saxon and there’s a lot of evidentially research that people have done in the bloodlines and people from back in that area and so what it comes down to this is. It comes down to believing that Creator would choose a special people and we’re to rule the world. Rule the world. It says in there, Alan, that you are going to loan to nations and borrow from none and it also says to a special people that they cannot loan money and charge usury to their fellows but they have to charge usury to the stranger or the goyim. Well, how is this reconciled in people’s minds or is there something that at least to plant a seed that would get them thinking, Alan?

Alan:  Their thinking would have to overcome their conditioning. That’s the problem and they’ve been so heavily steeped in this stuff from childhood that for many of them it’s impossible to break that barrier.

Jackie:  A lot of people who are Christian identity I don’t think it’s necessarily from childhood. It is what they’ve deduced from whoever – this came from British Israelism, didn’t it? The Israel identity or Christian identity? What is British Israelism?

Alan:  It began in the 1800’s with one man who was a bit of a nutcase to begin with. In fact he ended up in a psychiatric hospital for the rest of his days.

Jackie:  Do you know a name?

Alan:  I can’t quite remember the guy’s name but he actually demanded that the king and queen of England dethrone themselves and put him in power because he believed that he was closer to the bloodline that was mentioned than they were, you see, so they locked him up. However, then the World Zionist federation realized this could be an aid in their plans and so they pushed it ever since and you’ll find that the World Federalist Society–

Jackie:  World Federalist or World Zionist?

Alan:  World Federalist Society is the exact same address in every country as the World Zionist Society. It’s one and the same outfit. They’re using religion once again to verify the Old Testament and to bring Israel up to be the basically the capital of the planet.

Jackie:  And going along with that, isn’t it the second coming, the coming of Jesus, and I don’t know if this is British Israelism or Israel identity but that Jesus is going to have his throne right there in Jerusalem.

Alan:  It’s all part of the plan and you see behind religions you’ve had people who conned everyone for thousands of years so they do certainly know the techniques to use and they could pull it off. They could certainly pull it off; but if you go into the Old Testament, Jehovah or Yahweh is a latecomer. He comes on the scene after the Elohim and the Elohim are the creators you might say, so definitely Yahweh was a local deity that was then pushed – in fact he was the volcano god and he was eventually pushed up to overtake everyone else, not by Jews but by the ruling governments of the day.

Jackie:  The priesthood?

Alan:  Yes and Constantine I’m sure had a few good chuckles at that one because he was steeped in all the mystery religions and even though he’s given the accolades for bringing Christianity to the fore, he did not make Christianity the religion of Rome. He simply stopped the persecution of it and prior to doing that he created his own temple of the Mithraic Cult – he was a Mithraic disciple, a form of Masonry you might call it. He also created a church where you could go in, like all Caesars, and worship him in his own church, so he was worshipped as a god. He had insurance policies out with every mystery religion and so he used this religion, the Christian religion, to further the cause, which was again to lead eventually to world government.

Jackie:  I’ve mentioned this on the air before because I don’t really understand all of the writings that are attributed to things of Jesus but there are some that are so simple and that you just absolutely know is true. You know, how to live. Do unto others. That is it, Alan. As you sow, so shall you reap. I take that literally and for people to think that okay if I say a certain amount of hail Mary’s or the priest or I pay enough, well the Lord knows that I’m a weak sinner and Jesus died for my sins so I’m okay because I repent and then you do it again and repent again and it really gives people a cop out. But far beyond that, the way I see it, the way it appears to me, is that it has created that separation – that perceived separation between each of us and our Creator.

Alan:  Long before Christianity the mystery religions had always been around and they knew from time immemorial that man would always seek out his Creator. He had a yearning to be in touch with the all or whatever name they gave to it and then they exploited it. The priesthoods actually exploited this natural need you see and of course out of the need they create dogma, and from the dogma they make rules and laws and enslave the minds of the people.

Jackie:  And if you don’t buy into the dogma you’re a heretic; and I remember saying that on the air. Actually it was sometime in ’98 and why I remember that is because it was still daylight when I was doing the broadcast at the time. But I said I just want you all to know that I am a heretic, and by the definition in the dictionary, that I do not ascribe or subscribe to the religious doctrine and the religious dogma that we have been taught. I had somebody call me and say that’s a terrible thing to say about yourself. In other words, it’s terrible to be a heretic.

Alan:  “Heretic” comes from “hearsay,” and that’s what they forbid the public to do, was listen to hearsay; and from “hearsay” you have “heresy.” That’s where it comes from, so you were forbidden to listen to any kind of hearsay or heresy and if you did then you were a heretic. It’s a fantastic form of mind control to do with guilt-tripping and sin of course and it’s been exploited and used by professionals for thousands upon thousands of years. It’s all mind control, all of it.

Jackie:  I remember when Rick, what was his name, Wiles, was actually on this hour on this shortwave frequency at 9 p.m. Eastern time and Lilly listened to him and taped the thing one day and called and let me hear it. This basically was his message because he used to do news and tell all the terrible things that were going on, but then he’d say but that’s okay, I see what’s going on out there, I know what’s going on but it’s okay because I know that it’s the time Jesus is coming, see. Then he says come on Jesus and establish your throne in Jerusalem and I am going to be there right in the front row worshipping you and following you. It seems that the kingdom on earth is the message that has permeated throughout a lot of these religions, like the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Alan:  Of course the history of the Witnesses was began by–

Jackie:  Charles Taze Russell

Alan:  And he’s buried under a pyramid.

Jackie:  “34 holy,” I was at his pyramid. I have photographs of them, Alan.

Alan:  Yes and it’s right opposite the Masonic Lodge and of course the whole idea of the “Russellites,” as they called themselves, was that the Gentiles had blown it with all their wars and the goal was to bring the time of the Jews to rule the world. That was part of the Russellite philosophy.

Jackie:  Oh, you’re kidding.

Alan:  In fact Balfour who gave the Balfour Declaration said the same thing. If you read the whole declaration, and generally you’ll see only part of it published, but if you read the whole thing he said the same thing that the Gentiles have blown their ability for salvation, were unable to handle freedom and therefore the Jews had the right to rule.

Jackie:  I had never read the whole thing then because what I have that I was under the impression that this was the Balfour Declaration, basically it just said that a home there will be established for the Jews. However, it said something about that this would not encroach upon the people who are living there already, the Palestinians.

Alan:  Well, they are nice liars.

Jackie:  Yes I know that but that’s all I’ve got.

Alan:  I’ve got the whole thing and don’t forget too, it was not a British government document. It was a personal letter to Baron Rothschild, so it was never debated in Parliament in Britain. This was a managed thing between Rothschild and Balfour; but that was the scheme of it all, was that “look, you Gentiles just can’t handle it so it’s only right that Jews take over.” H.G. Wells who was also a front man for MI6 and who was given most of his material that he wrote his stories around, H.G. Wells also categorized the races that should be allowed to live and the ones that would have to be exterminated, long before Adolph Hitler came along. He said that the British Crown had decided that Jews because of their survival abilities and their ability to handle this economic system would be allowed to survive alongside the aristocracy of Britain.

Jackie:  You’re kidding.

Alan:  No.

Jackie:  So their ability to handle it. They’re the ones that – well, the elite are the ones that created it, aren’t they, way back in ancient times?

Alan:  Oh yes, it’s always been the elite of course. When you read into the books, H.G. Wells wrote the first set, it was a two-volume set called “The History of the World,” and he lays out there the races that would have to be destroyed because they could not come into this new order, which was an economic system, and he said that the red man would have to be killed off by diseases and so would the blacks. He also had the Irish in there, by the way.

Jackie:  Why the Irish?

Alan:  Because the Irish have a temperamental streak where they don’t like to go along with systems and the only ones that would be allowed to survive would be people who would conform to an economic system, and that’s the key to everything is the economic system. We under law exist to serve the economic system and not the other way around. They wrote a lot of their agenda openly back in the early 1900’s and put down in that agenda the races that would have to be eliminated.

Jackie:  When you read enough different stuff you know that you keep seeing these connections. And in the Protocols of course their world court it looks like it’s already built there in Israel but they say that their king despot of the blood of Zion is going to be the Pope of the world. Now I was sharing with out listeners last night a thing that I got on the different popes but there’s something here that I didn’t get to and I think it’s part of our conversation now and I’d like to share it. He was talking about the scandals of the child molestation and he said:

“Notwithstanding the scandal and shock of the aforementioned, Rome carries on quietly with her program of world dominion. They lead the competition to establish the first one world system that has ever existed. Their ultimate goal is global religious syncretism, and to eventually wield control and authority over every individual on earth. The human solidarity goals of the Roman Church are identical to the goals and objectives of the United Nations. This is why they are such a perfect fit. Rome only gives the appearance of objecting to the UN agenda. At the 1996 World Food Summit in Rome, Cardinal Angelo Sodano fledged the holy seas support for the UN humanistic programs of action. Rome also has designs on Jerusalem.”

Now this is where the connection comes in.

“For 46 years after Israel’s rebirth the Vatican refused to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. But Rome wants to exert premier influence over Jerusalem, which will one day function as the capital of her World Church.  In a 1993 letter to the Pope, Shimon Peres promised to internationalize Jerusalem granting the UN political control of the Old City and the Vatican hegemony over the holy sites within. This was confirmed by the Italian newspaper La Stampa. In March 1995 the Israeli radio station Arutz Sheva was leaked a cable from the Israeli Embassy in Rome, confirming the hand over of Jerusalem to the Vatican. The future Pope will establish his throne one day within the walls of the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. It is from here that he will rule his World Church.”

That reminds me that the king despot of the blood of Zion is said that it will be the Pope of the World and it says and there’s just another paragraph here.

            “And this day may not be as far off as many believe. The cornerstones for the Third Temple have already been quarried by the Jewish group known as the Temple Mount Faithful. They are extremely well financed and organized. They have also produced priestly vestments in accordance with scriptural outlines and are presently attempting to breed a perfect red heifer in anticipation of the coming dedication ceremonies. Obviously, Rome and the Temple Mount Faithful are headed for a showdown.”

I don’t think so. Do you, Alan? I don’t think there is going to be a showdown.

Alan:  No, I wouldn’t think so.

Jackie:  Okay. Here’s the last. “In a letter sent to the Vatican in January 2004, the Temple Mount Faithful demanded that Pope John Paul return the Temple Menorah and other vessels and treasures removed in 70AD by Titus and taken to Rome, where they are presently held within the Secret Vatican Archives.”  And that’s the end of the article and this was written by some guy in Toronto, but I think there’s a lot of truth in here except that there’s going to be a show down. This last pope according to many sources his mother was a Jew. He went to Israel and apologized on behalf of all Christians for the terrible persecution of the Jews that have taken place over the last 2,000 years, so the guy was a Jew.

 

Alan:  He also worked for I.G. Farben just prior to World War II.

Jackie:  Yes. I understand that he became a Catholic in order to escape whatever and he became a cardinal and the next thing you know he’s a pope. There’s not going to be any showdown. Their puppets are being put in place right now.

Alan:  Sure, the Catholic Church was always used for this. In fact if you look at some of the big names of Catholic popes, they were also world bankers in their own right.

Jackie:  I was telling our listeners last night about this beautiful book I have written by David Yallop, I think his name was. It was titled “In God’s Name” and it was about Pope John Paul I that was in only for 33 days and he was going to get rid of Marchinko the Vatican banker because he found out that they had laundered a billion, 900 and some million, dollars of bad bonds through the Vatican church. It was the night before when he handed these instructions to the Secretary of State, which he had actually inherited from the previous pope, and the author said that the guy begged the pope not to do this, evidentially knowing what was going to happen, and he said I want this done. Marchinko was some bishop or cardinal and the next morning he was found dead. He was poisoned.

Alan:  He was going to make a speech that day, too, to ban freemasonry in the Vatican.

Jackie:  Yes. What is it called? 32P… 3P… 22?

Alan:  There’s two 2’s.

Jackie:  P2 freemasonry. Yes, that was mentioned. We have to take our 60-second break here. This was a pope that could have done some real good. He was going to get rid of the birth control ban for Catholics and they got rid of him in 33 days. Okay folks, we’ll be right back with Alan Watt.

Okay Alan, what were we talking about?

Alan:  The fact is that organized religions have always been used for the purpose of control from the most ancient times.

Jackie:  Oh yes, we were talking about Pope John Paul I.

Alan:  If you really want to find mystery religion, you should look into the established churches because that’s where it all began.

Jackie:  You know the word pagan? Well, I looked it up one day. I got a whole bunch of dictionaries here and every time Chuck found one in an old bookstore from all different areas and I look up the word pagan in every single one of them, including 1828 whatever. Pagan, the word is connected with the word heathen and that is the person of the heath. Pagan really means rural folks, but what the dictionary said is that they were people who did not come into the organized church, the doctrine and the dogma of the church; and Alan, do you know that almost every single one of them, one of the definitions of a pagan was a gentile? Now that kind of confused me. Can you explain that?

Alan:  Sure. All ancient peoples had meaning in life. They had meaning from life. They lived the meaning of life and it didn’t matter really where their source of inspiration came from. They lived their life and life has to be meaningful. If you take away the meaningfulness of life, then you have robots and slaves and of course the organized religions were intended and set up to do exactly that. The ancient people had special sacred spots all over the world and it meant something to them. That’s all important you see.

Jackie:  Yes and it wasn’t necessarily evil, was it, Alan?

Alan:  No, not in the least. In fact, there was far less bloodletting with the so-called Pagani as there has been with established religion. Established religion has been a horror show.

Jackie:  Alan, what about the people now, I guess I have thought of them as pagans who sacrificed their children? Like I remember reading in Hawaii they throw their babies into the ocean sacrificing them to the gods. Some of them when they built a building, the four corners, before they put those posts in an infant was thrown in there; did that come from the priesthood?

Alan:  It came from Babylon. In fact, the archaeologists today who’ve worked steadily what was Babylon right into Jerusalem have found no sign of a Jehovah type worship. What they have found is that the same exact system of Babylon, where you kill children and often put them in an urn and you put them on each four corners to protect the inhabitants. All this rubbish and nonsense about a great Judaic people who worshipped this Jehovah is absolute rubbish. The truth is in the earth. The proof is there buried in the earth and in fact you can’t tell Judaism apart from the Phoenicians who also did the same thing of killing first-born children and burying them in the four corners of the structure.  You see in the ancient times, even in Rome, the emperor himself, to open up land for building purposes he would make the crossroads with the plows and he would plow an exact square and everywhere–

Jackie:  Who did this?

Alan:  The old Caesars.

Jackie:  The Caesars themselves?

Alan:  Yes. That was the law that they had to plow a square part of the land, with a plow, and wherever any structure went up then a human sacrifice was given so that the mother goddess would not be offended. That was their belief system and that was rampant – that same belief system is exactly the same as Babylon and Jerusalem and on and on you go.

Jackie:  This Caesar, are you speaking of in Rome?

Alan:  In Rome and their empire, wherever their empire extended to, it was the same system because there is only one mystery religion.

Jackie:  You mean the Romans were doing baby sacrifices?

Alan:  Yes and even today in the land of the so-called Phoenicians, which was the Holy Land basically–

Jackie:  Okay. Tell me where that was?

Alan:  That was the Holy Land. That was Jerusalem and round about Jerusalem.

Jackie:  That was Phoenicia, huh?

Alan:  Yes and the Greeks called the land of that area Phoenicia. South of them was the Edomites, but that land itself was the Phoenicians.

Jackie:  Aren’t the Edomites the ones the Jews supposedly are supposed to get rid of?

Alan:  Well, you’ll find they were not too happy with anybody else. Everybody was their enemy basically. However, what you find with the Phoenicians, and this is the key to it all, it’s an economic system and the Phoenicians were the ones who lived in that area who always created an artificial island and that was their capital and from there they would spread their system of commerce all over the ancient world.

Jackie:  You mean somewhere out in the ocean they would create an island?

Alan:  Yes, a man-made island.

Jackie:  How do you do that, Alan?

Alan:  They poured millions and billions of tons of soil and stone and so on and then they built their island.

Jackie:  In other words, sort of like a shoal or something that was already fairly not deep, fairly shallow?

Alan:  That’s what they did and they built it off of Joppa [Jaffa, Yafo] off the coast of Israel in the Mediterranean Sea and that was their capital. Then they moved eventually to Venice. Venice is a play on Phoenician – Venetian, Phoenician, same thing – and that was their capital of the world; Venice itself again was created by man, by the creation of an artificial city, and so the MO [modus operandi] you can trace down through history wherever they go.

Jackie:  Yes and this gets so confusing because I read a fairly long piece about Venice. I think it was Venice where the Jesuits were supposed to be so powerful. Is that so, was it Venice?

Alan:  They were definitely powerful because the Jesuits traveled even to ancient Japan. They created the warrior caste of Japan. It wasn’t natural to that country. They actually gave them the Warrior Caste and they’ve done it wherever they’ve gone. If you say–

Jackie:  Phoenician and Venetian.

Alan:  It’s the same thing, and the Phoenix bird dies every 500 years and it’s recreated in its own image.

Jackie:  And that would be a takeoff on the Phoenicians?

Alan:  That’s right. You’ll find if you say “Jesus” and then take it into the French, you have “Je Suis,” I Am.  Jesuit is Je Suis, same thing, “I am.” The whole thing is the mystery religion. All of it is the mystery religion.

Jackie:  Now I have read that the one we know as Jesus but wasn’t really his name.

Alan:  Jesus is a Greek term because the initial writers of the gospel wrote primarily in Greek and they had no problem by saying ‘Son of Zeus,’ (Zeus, Iesous), because they were familiar with the son of Zeus, Hesus. The other name is Apollo of course and Jesus is the sun. He is the sun. If you look a the King James Bible and you get a proper King James Bible–

Jackie:  You mean like the original one?

Alan:  Yes. You’ll find that the accolades they give to King James says “you are the SUN.” King James is the SUN and then talks about the late queen Elizabeth I who is the Eastern Star. That’s where the Eastern Star Lodge comes from. That’s in all the original King James Bibles.

Jackie:  All Masonic.

Alan:  All Masonic. These guys have literally pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes for thousands of years. You look at all the churches, they have a spire, which is the phallic symbol going right back to Egypt and it’s called ON. The phallic symbol is called ON. It’s in the English language today. We use ON for an erection; and you walk through the phallic symbol into the box and you walk through the vulva. That’s why you have what they call a “Norman Arch,” and you walk through it into the church into the box and it always faces to the East where the sun comes up.

Jackie:  Is this in the Catholic Church mostly?

Alan:  It’s in all Christian churches.

Jackie:  Are you saying then that all Christian churches that the entrance faces east?

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  Gosh, I never noticed that, Alan.

Alan:  And the priest gets dressed up in his robe, which is a female dress, because he portrays the hermaphrodite, male and female in one, because in the beginning God created man and woman; “in his perfect image created them both,” which means (and this is in the Talmud) that the god they’re talking about is a hermaphrodite. It’s male and female in one. They worship on Saturn’s day, which is Saturday, and that’s why they wear the black robe. When they wear the black robe they are also ultimate law. They’re all law.

Jackie:  Is that what the black robe means?

Alan:  That’s what it means. It’s the law. That’s why judges wear the black robe. They are the law. They are Saturn. When they sit on that bench above the people and there’s a bar in the way, they belong to the bar, they are speaking as gods. They are gods in the courtroom.

Jackie:  In the courtroom. Well, how does law connect with black?

Alan:  Again it’s the ancient system that predated Judaism and all the rest of them.

Jackie:  You mean that’s what they did was wore black?

Alan:  Yes and when they brought even Hebrews in for trial, this is how they said it: they held them by the “short and curlies.” They held them by the you-know-what.

Jackie:  The pubic hair?

Alan:  By the B-A-L-L-S and if you lied they crushed it. The crushed your “manhood” and that’s where the “short and curlies” comes from. This is all history. It is recorded history and we’ve been fooled for such a long, long time with all this nonsense that we have not allowed ourselves to live. These guys who run this system know exactly where they’re taking us and what they’re taking us to and they have decided that they want to eradicate that part of the mind, the brain, which allows you to think of yourself as an individual.

Jackie:  Okay. What part of the brain is that?

Alan:  It’s your higher survival centers. Arthur Koestler worked for the United Nations. He wrote about it. He said we will have to lobotomize that part of the brain that gives them their individuality because they won’t need it anymore since the state will be making all their decisions for them.

Jackie:  Are we talking about in the pituitary area?  Like a frontal lobotomy?

Alan:  It includes that. They’ve been right up front with their agenda.

Jackie:  Alan, was it Arthur Koestler who wrote–

Alan:  “The Thirteenth Tribe.”

Jackie:  I know “The Thirteenth Tribe,” but what about “The Ghost in the Machine?”

Alan:  “The Ghost in the Machine” is what they refer to for your ability to know yourself as a distinct personality.

Jackie:  Wasn’t that a book?

Alan:  “The Ghost in the Machine was a book, yes.

Jackie:  Was it Arthur Koestler who wrote that?

Alan:  Yes. He worked for the United Nations on a way to eradicate what they called “a problem of individuality.”

Jackie:  So you know what had just occurred to me? These psychotropic drugs that they are putting everybody on, do you think that does something with that frontal lobe of the brain? Do you think that’s the way of chemically lobotomizing people, Alan?

Alan:  They are doing that. That’s what the spraying in the sky is all about.

Jackie:  Well yes, but besides the spraying in the sky, the psychotropic drugs that they’re putting so many people on and so many children. Do you think that that is sort of like a chemical – I mean they actually get zombie-like in a sense.

Alan:  When you put them on the drugs they’ve been put on, it actually shrinks the brain and what they’re doing is eliminating all those people with leadership abilities who can convey what they understand and know and have learned to other people. They’re eliminating them before they become a problem and this is not fantasia. It’s been written about by the very people involved. It’s just that no one reads these books.

Jackie:  So “The Ghost in the Machine” would be the actual soul or spirit of the individual?

Alan:  It’s everything that makes you who you are. That’s what they mean and they’re doing it.

Jackie:  I’ve always meant to get that book and I’ve never done it.

Alan:  Arthur Koestler was quite candid about it. He believes in it of course. He worked for Stalin and then he came over to the University of New York and taught the same theories there.

Jackie:  Koestler was a Russian Jew?

Alan:  Yes and then he also spent the rest of his life working on methods to eradicate that part of the brain that makes you who you are; an individual.

Jackie:  You know what just occurred to me, that people who live in cities that every opportunity that they get to leave the city and find a place, Alan, that is where the birds sing and the crickets – there aren’t too many crickets around anymore that I know of, but the little peeper frogs and the whippoorwills and the morning doves and the mocking birds and just to get out and away from the artificiality of the city. When I had my business in Springfield, Illinois, I actually lived 50 miles from work but it was sub-development you know down the highway and off the highway and into from what they call the hard road and a beautiful 360 acres of woods and a little lake and to me it was just like heaven to be able to escape there, but there were people in Springfield when they had a long weekend they would go to St. Louis and I would go why are you going to St. Louis? Well, they’re going to go to a game and I go why don’t you go camping someplace? It just amazed me the people who already lived in the city wanted to go to a bigger city for a vacation and I really mean this folks. I truly mean this from the bottom of my heart, if you haven’t done it, take a vacation. Take a weekend. Take your children, take yourselves. Get the hell out of the city and find a place where water runs, a little brook, a stream, a river, but go someplace where there aren’t telephones. Buy a tent and go camping. Alan, how else are people ever going to be able to get in touch with themselves?

Alan:  Well, their time is running out because the agenda is there. It’s ongoing very quickly now and you will find that those who are dead already, that they are dead in the world and the few who are truly awake are often caught up in the confusion. There are very few people who are truly awake who’ve broken through all the confusion, but the agenda is going on right now. Seti, the Egyptian pharoph Seti, was the one who put into effect the long-range plans to lobotomize the public and that’s why you have “City.”

Jackie:  Alan, we’re out of time. We’re out of our hour, let me put it that way. Ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be back with you Monday. Alan, thank you for being here.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

April 19, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for being here tonight. This is Tuesday. It is the 19th of April in the year 2005 and I hope that many of you are having a beautiful and delightful day as we’ve been having here in Millerton, Pennsylvania.

Our spiritual message this evening is from John 18. We do this a lot, yes. In verse 37 when Jesus was having a conversation with Pontius Pilate and Pilate asked him “are you a king” and Jesus said, “You say that I am a king. To this end was I born and for this cause came I into the world that I should bear witness unto the truth. Everyone that is of the truth hears my voice.”

And that’s pretty cut and dried. Alan Watt, thank you for being here tonight with us again.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  You know it is very difficult when you’re in a conversation that seems to be just rolling and moving fluidly, it’s difficult to pick it up but I wrote down the words religiosity versus spirituality.

Alan:  We know that religion means to “rebind” or to “retie” and since most religions, all religions really, have come from preexisting religions, the elite that rule them simply updated them and called them something else and rebound the people or retied the people to the new.

Jackie:  Did you say it was the word ligio or legio?

Alan:  Legio, yes.

Jackie:  It’s a Latin word meaning to bind?

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  So RE-LIGION to rebind? In other words, the same game just under a new name?

Alan:  Yes, so that’s what religion is and religion also has always been used, with the hierarchy at the top symbolizing the god or the heavenly; and then all of his helpers and priests down to the lowest priest; and then all about them are the stars, the commoners, you see, the people, the masses; and so it was reconstruction of that which is above and bringing it below, as the Masons say, and that’s what religion was made to do. That’s why in fact they use the solar symbols in all of their religions including Christianity.

Now spirituality is a different thing all together. Without spirituality or humankind’s natural feeling for knowledge that there’s something much bigger working things out there and it’s much, much bigger than themselves or any humans, the ones that rule this earthy plane use that need and then pervert it into their own use by dominating the people, often by terrifying them with visions of Hades for the Greeks and Hell eventually for the western Christians and sin of course, which is a big thing. Religion itself is used to dominate and control the public to keep a minority in absolute wealth and power and it hasn’t changed today.

Jackie:  Sometimes maybe a conversation like this, people who – I’ve talked to a couple of our listeners recently and we got into this conversation about whether or not we’re a “Christian” and I said I thought I always was but I realize now I’m not. I never was. Not in the way that the “religion” of Christianity teaches or demands that we believe and yet it takes nothing away from what true Christianity could have been if it wasn’t made into a religion.

Alan:  That’s right. You see, the Christianity in the Gospels is simply eternal truths. Eternal truth never changes. It’s eternal. It can’t mean something different in a different century or in a different millennium. These are eternal truths and obviously if people followed the eternal truths, without priesthoods or ministers, you would not have this economic system which we’re all slaves to, run by the money men and the power brokers and the war makers. It could not exist if people could use their own natural humanity to each other and help each other out, and certainly it would also mean that you wouldn’t have this high-tech society either. All the toys would be gone but we’ve been taught to equate progress–

Jackie:  What do you mean all the toys would be gone, Alan?

Alan:  All the toys that we take for granted today which we were told that would fulfill us basically. Every ad on television tells you to buy this latest gadget and you’ll suddenly be smiling, and of course that doesn’t happen. However, the big boys who run this system and who have a plan to conquer the whole planet and alter the planet through science, including everybody on the planet, they’ve conditioned the public to believe that all these toys are good for us; and of course the whole meaning of the allegory of Eden. Eden was the natural state. That’s what it meant, the natural state of being; and once you leave the natural state of being, then you’re on a road to using science to create something better (what you think is better), and yet it creates a dominant elite who control the system and who are in the process now of conditioning the public to accept chips in their head.

Jackie:  You know I just pulled up some email and there was an article, I don’t know who wrote it, about that within the next decade 75 percent of the people could be chipped and here are the ways that it could happen. First of all, all school children would have to be chipped. That’s for their own good and if you’re in the military you have to be chipped and if you’re on social security or any type of government social programs you’d have to be chipped, you know for identification. If you work for a private company that has government contracts you’d have to be chipped; and I’m telling you, Alan, when you read this you see how actually, I’m afraid to say this, but how easily they could get people to buy in to doing this.

Alan:  When they had the World Meeting of the geneticists and biologists and the electronics technicians who worked on the active chips at the Loyola University meeting two or three years ago, anybody who gets a hold of that should go through it carefully because all the top scientists were there and some of the politicians were there. It was headed off by Newt Gingrich and the U.S. Department of Commerce paid for it and yet the public weren’t even told about it.

Jackie:  Was this the one where you said that they said that they could combine human cells with computers?

Alan:  Yes. I think it was Sony Corporation and even in some magazines and newspapers over the last few years Sony had created a form of protoplasm, human tissue in other words, combined it with chips and found that they could transmit through both without any problem. Now what it enables them to do is to create a chip, which they can, and this was all discussed at the Loyola University meeting, they have created the chip and part protoplasm will be inserted they said – now these guys didn’t say we’d like to. They said this will be inserted in each individual’s head.

Jackie:  In the brain someplace?

Alan:  In the brain and it will interface with the main cortex and it would be able to transmit to every part of your brain; make any part of your body move, for instance, and they said also that it will be run by a regional computer. There will be regional computers in every region, which will operate each person’s mind for them, and one of them said–

Jackie:  And I suppose that would be by programming, so they could take literally let’s say a certain group of people and program them to be one way. They could let’s say select out an individual and program that individual to do certain things?

Alan:  Yes, specialized tasks and–

Jackie:  I mean, Alan, could they go so far as to – I suppose this is speculation, but to have people either commit homicides or suicide?

Alan:  Oh, absolutely. In fact one of the top scientists there said, “This will be the end of individuality as we have known it.” He said, “It will no longer be possible for the individual to even perceive of themselves as being an individual.”  He said, “It will be more like the hive.”

Jackie:  That’s pretty arrogant. Then when you look at just that thing I just shared with you all about the different reasons where they could justify and people would go along with it because their jobs are involved. It’s the way they “make a living,” that they would say okay, I have to do this.

Alan:  The thing is they went through that whole scenario in fact at the Loyola University meeting the different techniques they would get the public to take the chip. They gave the time limit to have everybody chipped and they want a good majority to be chipped by the year 2012 and all of them to be chipped by the year 2019. They said that every kindergarten school, every novel writer would be given grants, film producers and so on, would be given grants to write these things into their scripts to make the children want them. Already they’ve churned out movies since that meeting about brain chips and showing you all the advantages they want you to believe you’ll have, where you could be downloaded with information without having to study.

Jackie:  You know probably one of the ways that they’ll use it first, to give that first impression of how miraculous this is. A person who may be paralyzed and they could make this person be able to get up and walk and move, and people would be gasping in awe at this wonderful and marvelous invention.

Alan:  It’s so easy to do but especially when they convince youngsters that they’re going to be the guy Neo on the Matrix, “I need a program right now for whatever, a helicopter,” and it just programs the pilot’s instructions right into your head. Of course, it won’t be like that at all because, as they’ve said, the purpose is to eliminate individuality from the public. They said in their heads, because they are all linked to central computers, you’ll hear vague whisperings of other people’s thoughts and it will be more like the hive they said than a system of humanity. What it is actually is the Borg in the Star Trek series.

Jackie:  Which one is the Borg?

Alan:  The Borg is the cyborg type human with the implant and the brain chip run by a central computer.

Jackie:  He’s not one with the funny glasses?

Alan:  Yes, they can have one eye as infrared or something, but that’s the Borg are and they’re laughing in our face because the Borg means “original Bee,” you see.

Jackie:  The original Bee. Now you’re saying that the world Borg itself means the original Bee?

Alan: The original Bee and even in the Star Trek series the Borg craft or space ship is called the Hive. They put it all in front of our face through fiction, which programs us subliminally to be familiar with the idea, vaguely familiar with it, and we don’t use our censor part of our brain when we’re being entertained, so we don’t critically analyze the outcome. When they present the actual thing to us, because it’s vaguely familiar, we tend to go along with it; and that’s called predictive programming from Tavistock Institute in England. However, these scientists did not hope to do anything. They said what they were going to do, so they’ve been given authority from the higher sources to do this and so that’s where science and leaving Eden, which is the natural state, that’s where it would always take you: to the same non-existence you might say.

Jackie:  Yes. You could easily hear something like this and realize that the possibility is great that they could be successful and it would be real easy to say well I’ll be out of there by then, but you think about all of the children, Alan.

Alan:  I know and it’s literally the end of human consciousness.

Jackie:  Well, you know what? They’re not going to be successful.

Alan:  I know because there will be people who will resist taking it. Many will take it believing all the propaganda they’re given that it’s going to enhance them and so on, but once that main switch is thrown one day they’ll all turn into little robots and that is the function of it. When you go back to some of the elite’s writings in the past, such as “The Next Million Years” by Charles Galton Darwin, Darwin’s grandson who was a physicist, he talked about this. He says we must get rid of the excess commoners on the planet and he says those that we retain we must eliminate that part of their brain which gives them their individuality, because it’s individuality which gives problems to the elite you see. It’s that resistance spark within the individual which makes him resist ultimate powers, so they want to get rid of that and then they’ll have their utopia.

However, Darwin himself said, “we, however, being the dominant minority, must retain our survival instincts and therefore we will be left unaltered.”  In other words, it will destroy our individual survival instincts and Arthur Koestler, who worked on the same programs for the United Nations, in his book “The Ghost in the Machine” in the last chapter it says the exact same thing. “We must eliminate individuality from the average person. However, we, the dominant minority, must retain our survival instincts and therefore will remain unaltered.”  This has been along worked out plan. It’s what they call utopia you see.

Jackie:  But they say that they’re the dominant minority.

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  But really aren’t they minions?

Alan:  They’re the lower minions and if you go back as far as the plans given out by Plato in “The Republic” for this perfect world state of theirs, Plato talked about the high aristocracy being called ‘The Guardians’ and the guardians would be allowed to bring in some helpers from the lower class, who may see themselves as guardians but actually would not be, so they’d be a higher helper. Then if we jump from there to Zbigniew Brzezinski’s book “Between Two Ages” and “The Technetronic Era,” he goes into the same things about controlling each individual electronically, while the dominate elite will remain unaltered.

Jackie:  You know what I think? When we succumb to the lies of organized religion we are losing our individuality, Alan.

Alan:  That was the first attempt. You see the old method of controlling everyone was to have them all conditioned in the same way. That’s a form of destroying individuality and that’s why they had the mass for the masses.

Jackie:  For example, as you talk sometimes I write down a word or a thought and this is going back in our conversation, but when you were talking about religion and that’s exactly what they were meant to do, I wrote down the word contradiction and the word slavery, because for example in the gospel Jesus says very simply to do unto others or love your God with all you heart, mind, soul and strength. Love your neighbor as yourself. Well now anybody who calls themselves “a Christian” and then goes ahead and says it’s okay to have slaves. It’s okay, it’s in the good book, God allowed it. Well, right there, Alan, I don’t mean to say that in such a condescending derogatory way either, but right there when you see an absolute contradiction and you will accept both of them as true because it’s in the “good book,” Alan, you’ve lost your individuality or at least you’re losing it.  I don’t care how strict a food regime a person follows and doesn’t eat ham and goes through all the food stuff and that makes them an individual. No, it doesn’t. It makes them different than other people but it certainly doesn’t make them an individual.

Alan:  No, and of course if you believe in the contradictions then you have doublethink as always there – the ability to hold two opposing opinions on the same topic in your head at the same time.

Jackie:  That’s true, both of them being true.

Alan:  Of course, that again is like a robot that’s going crazy because it’s got conflicting dialogue.

Jackie:  We have a call coming in. Shall we take it?

Alan:  Sure.

Jackie:  Hello. You’re on the air.

Storm:  I have a question for your guest.

Jackie:  Sure. Who’s calling?

Storm:  Storm from New York. You’re first name again, I’m sorry.

Jackie:  It’s Alan Watt.

 

Storm:  All right, Alan. Here’s what I want to ask you. I’m sure you’re aware they changed the $20 bill twice. That’s what I was planning on getting to in a minute. You’re aware of the $20 bills.

Jackie:  Yes he is.

 

Storm:  Okay. There are two. They made one when Clinton was in office and then they redesigned it again. You know the money is counterfeit anyway but this is the point to cut to the chase. If you were to take your thumb and your back finger and press it over the left eye area of the face that was Grant’s or–

 

Jackie:  Your thumb or your what?

 

Storm:  I say your middle finger. You know the middle finger that let’s say people in college pick up the middle finger and give the finger to you. That finger and your thumb and you press – put the middle finger in the back, put your thumb in the front or vice versa and press part over a new $20 bill the one that has the different colors on it because there’s two different versions you will feel the microchip that is over the left eye. And they don’t have them on the 10s and they don’t have it on the 5 and they don’t have it on the 1–

 

Jackie:  But it’s on the 20.

 

Storm:  On the 50 and possibly the new 100.

 

Jackie:  So what was your question?

 

Storm:  I’m asking if he has ever heard of that because if you were to get one but it has to be the one that the newest ones that look like they have cooking grease on them. They look even dirtier looking than the first new 20 or 50. They have a chip in it. You can feel when you press on the right eye.

 

Jackie:  Okay, we heard that.

 

Storm:  Right. You don’t feel it. What they use that for is – what they do is if you are taking money outside the country or really can’t take money outside–

 

Jackie:  Storm, what you’re talking about I believe most of our listeners and of course Alan is aware of. In other words —

Storm:  Most people don’t have the slightest idea.

Jackie:  Okay, thank you Storm. Okay Alan, any comments there?

Alan:  They’ve been using technology on the public very quietly for many, many years and they began to actually test active chips embedded in people in the 1960’s and releasing the people who had no knowledge of these chips and then they followed them down through their lives and caused them to do odd things at times and followed up how they handled their incidences.

Jackie:  But you’re not saying that since, did you say the 1960’s, that they were able to mesh – in other words, that technology that you were telling us about, that they’re talking about, that they can now do, that they’ve been doing?

Alan:  They’ve actually been doing but the chip that they implanted then was done on lots of servicemen who had minor operations while in the service and then released.

Jackie:  And how do you know this Alan?

Alan:  Because when you read the psychiatric reports from Britain for instance you find that schizophrenia has specific signs and symptoms and generally they were also a religious nature. Suddenly about 1960, long before computers, even the word computer became common to the people, they had patients suddenly coming in diagnosed as schizophrenia, having hallucinations and believing that they had a chip in their spine that was controlling them. The one thing they all had in common was they’d all had minor operations while in the military and that was hushed up.

Jackie:  Now this was actually in a medical report, in a psychiatric report?

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  Did they allude to the fact that there was a chip in these people?

Alan:  Of course they didn’t and the psychiatrists didn’t because the head psychiatrist would obviously be in the know. They had to be in the know but the thing was this was experimental models you might say and they could then treat this person, convince them that they had schizophrenia and give them medication, then release them back into society and then activate the chip again and make them do strange things. They have been definitely testing them but this new chip that they claim that they have–

Jackie:  Excuse me. Did the medical report, the psychiatric report also report that each one of them had had surgery while they were in the military?

Alan:  Yes, because they always have their backgrounds in all previous medical records. Now the thing is too, when you tie it in with the CIA’s UFO deception, which they also plan to unleash on the public, and suddenly you have people claiming they’ve got chips in their hands or in their nasal passages, in their sinuses. Then you find out there are some surgeons who are taking these things out; they’re removing them and they can’t explain exactly what they are because they tend to almost move when you try to move them when you pick them up. They have this protoplasmic coating on them. Once again, I’m convinced it’s the authorities that have been doing this, since it’s the authorities who admitted they wanted to do it to the whole planet. When then discussed this at the Loyola University meetings, the scientists never said they would like to test this out. It was all taken a priori that they obviously had been tested out and worked. They said their only problem was now to convince the public to accept it and that’s how far ahead they are.

Jackie:  I remember you saying a long time ago that when they talk about a technology that they just discovered, they’ve had it for a long time; and what you’re saying falls in line with that. We have to take our break. Alan Watt is our guest tonight and as usual the conversation it gets intense, Alan, is what it does and I wasn’t – when you were talking about the people who came in that had schizophrenia and thought that they had chips—I’ll hold that question. Hi, you’re on the air.

Joe:  Hello.

Jackie:  Yes.

Joe:  It’s Joe.

Jackie:  Hi Joe. Speak up, honey.

Joe:  Can you hear me now?

Jackie:  Heck yes, that’s great.

Joe:  You know talking about those implanted chips, I was listening to all this stuff today on the Oklahoma City bombing and that brought back from my mind that Timothy McVeigh always swore he had a chip in his buttocks.

Jackie:  In his hip. He did, didn’t he, Joe?

Joe:  Yes, he always did and that guy William Cooper, you know that was killed and murdered in Arizona, he said that he run into him and somebody else. Actually I can’t remember who the other guy was, but anyway they got into a conversation and McVeigh wanted him to feel it because he acted like well I know you don’t believe me–

Jackie:  Who? Cooper said he ran into McVeigh?

Joe:  Yes. He said he run into him at a gun shop in [Sholoh] or whatever it was that he lived and he just said that McVeigh – a was a couple of Mid-East, what do you call them, an Arab looking fellow was with him and they – of course Cooper was well known and they had a real nice conversation.

Jackie:  Speak up, Joe, please.

Joe:  According to Cooper, McVeigh tried to get him to feel it and Cooper said I didn’t want to and so they’ve been around. Nothing surprises me what they do, but anyway I just thought that was revealing.

Jackie:  It sure does and that was 10 years ago. Okay Joe, thanks for your call. Yes he did, didn’t he, Alan?

Alan:  It was in the newspapers here that McVeigh complained that he did have one in that region.

Jackie:  Yes, well it was in the newspapers here too and it was on the news.

Alan:  It showed a clip of McVeigh in Gulf War I personally escorting Schwarzkopf around some of the bases.

Jackie:  Oh, you’re kidding?

Alan:  No, and so he was in Special Forces. Andy [Ramage] who was in Special Forces in Britain in the Special Air Service, the SAS, wrote a book after Gulf War I talking about his own men being chipped under the eyebrow, so they definitely got chipped for Special Forces.

Jackie:  And that was back in the ’60’s, Alan.Oh, I’m sorry. I was thinking of Vietnam.

Alan:  The ’90’s. They certainly did a lot of experimenting in Vietnam; if anyone’s ever seen “Jacob’s Ladder” it’s worth going to see.

Jackie: “Jacob’s Ladder?”

Alan:  Yes, the movie.

Jackie:  What is it?

Alan:  It’s about some of the experiences of certain individuals who were tested with different things during the Vietnam era, where they actually thought they were in Vietnam but they were being tested elsewhere with different drugs and so on and actually killing each other. It’s an interesting movie.

Jackie:  “Jacob’s Ladder” and they made a movie about this, and people will look at it and because it’s a movie they won’t believe that it’s true.

Alan:  They were trying to get the soldiers to become so primitively aggressive that they would kill everything and be ferocious, and they used U.S. troops and created two different sections and actually set them against each other. Then they dissected the people, the guys’ brains even, to see what physical effect had done damage-wise to the brain.

Jackie:  Did they say it had done damage?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  This is a little bit off the beaten path, in the same church a different pew, speaking of our military personnel. I hate saying that. The young men and women in America who go into wars. Lilly had heard that we know that they’re bringing the recruiters right into the schools today, Alan, and she had heard and is going to try and do some research on it to make sure whether it is accurate or not that they’re actually signing them up 14 years and older. Now of course somehow – you know that’s a contractual agreement. They’re not legally bound unless they really change the laws, that if you contract 12 and up or something that the contract is valid. But I wanted to say this for the sake of our listeners, for those of you who have children or know your friends’ children, your relatives, try to check into it and see if this is happening and warn them not to allow their child to do that because it isn’t the law anyway.

Alan:  It’s quite amazing that American psychiatry will protect children from pedophiles, the reason being that you cannot have consensual sex from a child under the age of I think it’s 16 because they’re too immature to make truly rational decisions, and yet they’re trying to get them into the military where they can go and get killed at a younger age than that.

Jackie:  Well, I know this is maybe a poor comparison or an example, but when you think about it there are some states now that don’t even allow the young people to have driver’s licenses until they’re 18, and of course you could not go into a tavern and have a beer or have a glass of wine at dinner until you’re 21 years old, but you can go in at the age of 17 and begin to kill and die in defense of the world order.

Alan:  That’s the reason for it because the military – which is a Masonic Order, by the way. Everything in the military is purely masonry, all the symbols and so on. It actually is a form of conditioning the mind and drilling out the individuality and creating the mass man, who will do what he’d told, the nearest thing to a robot; and children can’t imagine themselves dying you see. Death is a strange thing to them. It happens to other people and they’re always old and they’re brought up with movies where the heroes never get killed because the bad guys can never shoot straight and all these movies have happy endings for the guys. They’ve been brought up purposely to do the killing and be slaughtered because older and wiser men wouldn’t join the military you see. They know the political scams. They’ve lived and they understand things but youngsters don’t and that’s why the military always recruits the young for their wars and it’s well understood as a science.

Jackie:  And of course their lack of experience, meaning lack of wisdom really, their minds would be so malleable. They would be so susceptible to the brainwashing.

Alan:  Sure. They go from being a nobody to getting this uniform and having all this accolade and you feel so proud of yourself, you see. This is how they do it and of course it’s a different story if you come back wounded, it’s your tough luck basically; but all these children think well somebody else might get it, but it won’t be me. They can’t imagine death.

Jackie:  There’s also that side of it that literally has turned them into barbarians, where it appears that many of them are killing with glee.

Alan:  Yes they are.

Jackie:  And they’re celebrating it. They’re videotaping it. They are so many reports and even the personally made videos that are being shown on, being available on the internet.  I believe that in the past for the most part those who had to engage in war, the majority of them moaned or I should say mourned even when they had to shoot a so-called enemy and they grieved and they were guilty, but today it’s different, isn’t it, Alan?

Alan:  Yes. They’ve been trained on military techniques on video games.

Jackie:  Yes. Hi, you’re on the air.

Lilly:  Hi. It’s me, Lilly. I sent you two emails about that, I found it under Google. If you put in Google search recruiting 14 year olds and I sent this to you anyway.

Jackie:  All right, thank you honey.

Lilly:  The thing is the parents have to sign in for it but the children are like 14 year old to 17 year old and then the parents get hounded by the children that please, please, please let me join up and then the parents or if they are in poor financial condition they then start getting money from the time they sign up from their future pay. Once they turn 18 then their future pay is deducted from what they would be getting in the future. It’s something in the No Child Left Behind Act that’s been [inaudible] before they get younger. But anyway, if you put it into Google you’ll find it, recruiting 14 year olds.

Jackie:  And the section of the No Child Left Behind Act, Lilly, can you find that and email it to me?

Lilly:  I didn’t get it down. It’s in the email I sent you.

Jackie:  Okay honey, thank you.

Lilly:  The first email.

Jackie:  Thank you, Lil. Did you get that, Alan?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  So they’ll have the parents sign them up and you know I would really love to see that recruitment form because wouldn’t you love to see what they’re doing or saying or promising for the parents to actually register their 14-year old child and it could be a boy or a girl. Hello, you’re on the air.

Myron:  Good evening, Mrs. Patru and Mr. Watt.

Jackie:  Hi.

Myron:  Yes. I have a question for Mr. Watt. My name is Myron, I’m calling from Georgia. I’d like to ask Mr. Watt a question. I’d like to know if he knows someone by the name of Baron von Knigge? He was a partner with Adam Weishaupt in the Order of the Illuminati back in the 1700’s and I was just wondering if Mr. Watt has any knowledge of research on this gentleman.

Jackie:  Okay, and Myron, you have to hang up to hear the answer.

Myron:  I will. Thank you. Have a good night.

Jackie:  You too. Bye bye. Okay, Alan.

Alan:  I know the name and I know that of course the Illuminati of Weishaupt did not originate with Weishaupt. It was simply the illuminati popping its head up in a period in time. That was all, but around Weishaupt, he had some scientists and so on who were working on human behavior and studying it intensely, long before Freud or any of these boys were around.

Jackie:  And that Baron von Knigge.

Alan:  He was one of them. What’s interesting too is that when you read what Weishaupt claims, he said that at the end stage they would unleash the nihilists and the atheists.

Jackie:  He said what, Alan?

Alan:  That they would unleash the nihilists and the atheists in the biggest war for the world; and of course that was echoed by Lenin and before him [Buckerin] and it was also mentioned by Marx at one point. It was all the illuminati and what they’ve done is they’ve created the very generation of dumbed-down children. They’ve brought them up on violence and video games. The state has given them their values, not their parents, and they are unleashing the nihilists and the atheists and that’s why they’re over in Iraq killing with glee.

Jackie:  Yes. We have a caller here. Hi, caller you’re on the air.

Jeff:  Hello.

Jackie: Oh, hi Jeff.

Jeff:  How you doing?

Jackie:  Fine.

Jeff:  There is, from what I understand, a $16,000 bonus for anybody who enlists today. Sounds like selling your soul to the devil, doesn’t it?

Jackie:  You mean they get the $16,000 upfront?

Jeff:  Yes and then they’ll call when they’re needed.

Jackie:  Well that would certainly seal a contract, wouldn’t it?

Jeff:  Yes.

Jackie:  If a parent was signing for minor – okay Jeff, did you hear that on the news or what?

Jeff:  No. From a soldier.

Jackie:  Okay, thanks. Anything else, Jeff?

Jeff:  No. The reception is really terrible down here.

Jackie:  Oh is it? I’m sorry to hear that. Okay thanks. Bye. Did you hear that, Alan?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  $16,000 bonus.

Alan:  Just to finish off on Weishaupt, now most people know that the Bavarian authorities raided his lodges. Their lodges by the way went into Germany and they were called the Beenan Lodge or the Order of Bees and the symbol is the beehive, which is the same symbol George Washington in his Masonic regalia has down in the bottom of his painting. Anyway, Weishaupt when he was chased out he got refuge in the area of Germany of Saxe-Coburg. Now Saxe-Coburg is the old house of the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha royal family of Britain today; so why would the royal family not only give Adam Weishaupt refuge, they also gave him a lifelong pension and that’s recorded history too. You see they’re all tied in together. Weishaupt wasn’t an independent agent.

Jackie:  Did you say Saxe-Coburg, like C-O-B-E-R-G?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  And Saxe would be SACHS?

Alan:  It’s S-A-X-E they spelled it there.

Jackie:  Oh, S-A-X-E.

Alan:  But it’s the same as Sachs. It doesn’t matter how it’s spelled.

Jackie:  Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

Alan:  Yes and that literally was the royal family that George and all those boys came from.

Jackie:  Oh, that was their relatives?

Alan:  Yes. Weishaupt and these guys were agents of a much higher power, just as Lenin was. Getting back to this whole discussion, we are living in the times where spiritual values better start to emerge in the individual because the war is going on right now and it’s slow at the moment and yet it’s also making great strides psychologically to condition people to accept all technologies and all technologies are just so wonderful you see. It’s called progress, but once this technology comes to full fruition and implementation it’s the end of conscious thought, which means it’s the end of the human race’s ability to contact their own ‘creator,’ if you like, and people better think about that.

Jackie:  Well, the implications of that are endless.

Alan:  Absolutely.

Jackie:  It just takes my mind out there. If that happens to an individual and they leave this dimension, the physical, with that seed so to speak, it comes back with them, Alan, and something has to happen. If we took it out there in I would have to say the negative. In other words, if they were successful you would have people being born into it – being born into it and never ever, ever questioning.

Alan:  They wouldn’t have the ability to even to think up a question. If you cannot be who you are as an individual and know you are separate, although amongst others, that will be gone totally. As they said, it will be more like the beehive than a natural society of humanity. This is an ancient goal and you can trace the beehive symbol not only back to Egypt but back to the ancient Minoans.

Jackie:  Yes and you know what?  Love would be non-existent.

Alan:  You couldn’t have love because you need individual human qualities and experiences in order to come to the ability to have love and to exercise it, and if you can’t even experience the fact that you are a distinct individual, then you’ll be more like as they say a bee in a hive with a job to do. You could have no abstract thought of your own, no abstract imagination or creative abilities. The brain would simply be the conduit for your programming which is coming through the air from some giant computer and if they want you to come in for adjustments you couldn’t stop yourself. Your legs would start walking towards wherever it is.

Jackie:  That’s right. There would be no – what you were just talking about. I’ve got this book “Family of Light” here and it reminded me of a short passage under the “Family of Dark,” it was that chapter. It was talking about the beings who feed off harm to others are feeding their energy fields through a limited channel and this energy it says is not freely flowing through them, so when they access energy they want a lot of it and usually of a violent nature. Those who create harm to others are starved energetically. Why? Because they do not have love and do not feel connected and are shut off from living. The walking living dead is what you are without love and that is the truth, isn’t it, Alan?

Alan:  Oh, it is the truth and unfortunately the ones who feed as you say off hate and anger are in charge of the world.

Jackie:  Oh boy and they keep creating it, don’t they?

Alan:  It’s the only thing they can do.

Jackie:  They do not resonate. That’s another passage in that same chapter in the “Family of Dark,” that if we refuse to live in fear, to live in hatred, anxiety, greed, all of that type of energy, but in love, in compassion, empathy, that they can’t exist because they do not resonate to that vibration, that energy of love; they cannot exist in that atmosphere.

Alan:  In fact, they can’t exist in this very system which they have created without it. They can’t exist at all. Technically, even physically, they are useless creatures in a natural civilization. They’re totally impracticable as far as taking care of themselves or doing anything useful but they thrive on this system which they have created. The more useless they are physically the higher up the tree they are as our dominant minority.

Jackie:  The dominant minority. Here’s highlighted a couple of sentences that I thought was really beautiful along what we’re talking about. It says: “You have equated power with material consumption, collection and hoarding. You admire people who have vast mansions, cashes of gold, jewels and trinkets to dazzle and befuddle the public. Is this really wealth and power? The real power lies in knowing the meaning of the song that the birds sing to be synchronized and harmonized by the sounds of nature, the tree frogs, the insects, the whippoorwills, the calls of the morning dove and the mocking bird or the nightingale with its sweet sound at dusk.”  That is perfect, Alan, because that’s where it is truly at.

Alan:  As I say, if you go into the Amazon those people would be called primitive and backwards and so on, because we come from this system, but they get up in the morning and they live a full day everyday and life is completely full of meaning for them, without knowing what Freud said or Einstein or anyone else. They have complete meaning in their whole existence, and as far as being in touch with their spirituality, they’re so content and in touch with it that they have no high blood pressure or psychiatrists or anything else. They don’t need it.

Jackie:  And they don’t know that they have over-happiness disorder.

Alan:  Yes, that’s right. They’re called an “arrested civilization” by the demons that run this world.

Jackie:  Well, it always does come down to each and every one of us as an individual and it is true that is the journey that we take by ourselves, Alan.

Alan:  We do.

Jackie:  Nobody can take it for us and we cannot take it for anybody else. We’re out of our hour and once again just thank you so much for being here.

Alan:  It’s been a pleasure.

Jackie:  Sometimes it would be nice if we had two or three, wouldn’t it, Alan?

Alan:  Right.

Jackie:  Ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be back with you tomorrow night and thank you for being here and God bless you. Good night, Alan.

Alan:  Good night.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

April 20, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for being here with us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Wednesday. It is the 20th of April in the year 2005.

Today is Adolph Hitler’s birthday and it is also my daughter Nicole’s birthday and I used to think that was pretty ashamed. I’ve told her since I’ve found out some different things about Adolph Hitler that she could have done worse having her birthday on that same date. I hope you had a nice day today, ladies and gentlemen. We are definitely going to be talking about Codex Alimentaria and just in case – I know that we have thrown that name around. We’re not talking about it tonight, but Codex Alimentaria is a plan to harmonize all the food values, vitamins et cetera and to totally control – it has a lot to do with the nutrition that today we have available for at least reasonable prices. What they intend to do with this is to make it so that it would be illegal to have unless it’s a real low, low potency, something that would probably do us very little good, unless it was prescribed, and the pharmaceuticals will begin formulating the vitamins. Do you like that?

We will be talking barring any unforeseen events. We will be talking about this on Monday. I spoke with a gentleman today at the suggestion of Mildred, a lovely lady, one of our listeners and a great supporter of this broadcast I must say, and I did speak with him today and he is going to be here with us Monday evening and tonight Alan Watt is with us. Alan? Do you ever think ahead while you’re talking?

Alan:  Yes, I do.

Jackie:  That’s what I just did. Tonight Alan Watt is with us. Because I didn’t have anything prepared for our spiritual message, I’ll do this. This is Mother Theresa. It is a writing by Mother Theresa.

“People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Forgive them anyway. If you’re kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives. Be kind anyway. If you are successful, you’ll win some false friends and some rue enemies. Succeed anyway. If you’re honest and frank, people may cheat you. Be honest anyway. What you spent years building someone could destroy overnight. Build anyway.  If you find serenity and happiness, people may be jealous. Be happy anyway. The good you do today people will often forget tomorrow. Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have and it may never be enough. Give the world the best you have anyway. You see in the final analysis it’s between you and Creator. It was never between you and them anyway.”

 

Alan, thanks for being here tonight.

Alan:  Yes. It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  You know last night when I said your voice sounded low, Mildred called. Well, no, it wasn’t. It was Melvin, another one of our listeners, and he just saying how much he appreciated your coming on with us and the information, but he said it was real low at first, or maybe it was Mildred that said that, and then suddenly your voice got nice and loud and clear and it isn’t very loud right now.

Alan:  It’s not? How’s that now?

Jackie:  I don’t know, talk.

Alan:  Is that better now?

Jackie:  Maybe a little bit better. But when it comes through clear it’s really wonderful. I mean you are clear. It’s just kind of muted I guess. Alan? When we talked today earlier and I asked are you okay because I sensed that something was bothering you and what you’ve began talking about is your concern about what is happening and how fast it’s happening today and how important it is that as many people as possible understand, and so that’s why we’ve decided not to have a break like until next Monday and to have you back tonight. So whatever it is in your heart and on your mind that you want to share with our listeners, please do so.

Alan:  I keep telling people that the stage we’re at now, this particular stage, is the final battle for human consciousness or the elimination of it. One or the other because the big boys are on a roll and they’ve written about it for centuries as to what they wanted to do and they are now in the process of doing it. It’s like the drugs you were talking about or the vitamins. They’re standardizing everything you see across the world.

Jackie:  They call it harmonizing.

Alan:  Yes and what it really is is standardizing and since they are knights and all the rest of it, a knight has a standard and they put that standard in the ground and everything around them from horizon to horizon is now under their standard or it’s standardized.

Jackie:  Would you like to expand on that? What did you say, knights of the standard?

Alan:  All of these high Masonic knights, they use knightly emblems and words that we use commonly and we don’t think even where they came from.

Jackie:  But they do use the word harmonizing?

Alan:  Oh yes.

Jackie:  And you are right. They are standardizing it, aren’t they?

Alan:  They are and even when they were signing the North American agreement, this amalgamation, on the 23rd, as they were doing that, they quipped on the newsreel that even pizza from the north of Canada to the south of Mexico will come under these laws and all the ingredients will be standardized so you get the exact same pizza from north to south.

Jackie:  Oh no. Are you serious?

Alan:  I’m serious. I’ve got this on tape.

Jackie:  You said that every pizza is going to taste the same?

Alan:  Well, I don’t know if it will taste the same but it certainly has the same ingredients in it and it will be the same with everything else. They’re going the whole way to standardize everything. It’s obsessional compulsion going to the tenth degree and eventually of course they plan to standardize each individual human being, because the chipping is only one part of the process and the next race of slaves that they want will be cloned and they’ll be all standardized too. This is how – I wouldn’t say insane because they have written about it copiously, but this is how diabolical this whole thing is and we’re right on the brink now literally to retain consciousness and that essence which we call humanity is fighting for its life and most people don’t even know it. As long as they can come home after working and turn on the television and watch their favorite programs to the very last day, as long the Seinfeld repeats come on or whatever they watch, they’ll think everything is okay. This literally is a fight for–

Jackie:  And then there are many of them who think it’s wonderful what’s happening because it’s the sign that Jesus is coming back and he’s going to have his kingdom. The seat of his kingdom will be Jerusalem, and my gosh, Alan, there are so many people that actually believe that it’s wonderful what’s happening because it is that time. Now if a person would read the Protocols and hear what the plan was, regardless who the heck’s plan it was, it was laid out this perfectly a hundred years ago. I mean I do understand and our listeners I’m sure get it that it isn’t a hundred year old plan. I mean actually in writing how they’re going to do it and when you read the Protocols it’s right on target and they say that Jerusalem will be their headquarters and their king despot of the blood of Zion will have has quarters there and he will be the pope of the world. Then we find out that Rome has evidentially made plans, and I didn’t know this, Alan, to actually move the Vatican to Jerusalem. So do you think a whole bunch of Catholic “Christians” will be cheering and say “look, it’s the end, it’s the time”?

Alan:  You have to understand that in all the traditional religions have within them the same mystery religion that really runs the show and it’s the same with the word “Zion.” People don’t even know what it means and it’s the hermaphroditic deity. That’s what it means.

Jackie:  Zion?

Alan:  Yes, and the mountains that they used to worship where the moon passed over the top was called Mt. Sin and that’s where SIN comes from. SIN or ZIN, it doesn’t matter. Then you have ON, which is the phallic symbol of the male deity or the obelisk which it passes over and of course the pyramid of Cheops, or Khufu as it’s called in Egyptian, is the uncapped pyramid. It’s the top of an obelisk. That’s what it represents and over it passes the moon god SIN.  When you take the first two letters, which is typical of high occult masonry, modern and ancient, you end up with ZI and then ON, Zion. That’s what it means. That’s what it means to the high masons. It’s the completion of the male and female in one because behind all the religions, whether it’s Hindu or any of the others, they’re all, even ancient Greeks, their god was male and female.

Jackie:  I remember in Genesis where it says, male and female made he them.

Alan:  Yes, and of course if you go into the Talmud they also talk about that. It doesn’t mean they made male and female one and one. It can also mean he made a bunch of male and female–

Jackie:  Hermaphrodites.

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  That’s kind of how that’s said, isn’t it, because I remember when I read that I thought it was worded funny. Male and female made he them.

Alan:  If you look at the exact wording in the Greek and you have Imagio, which is the image. It means the perfect likeness, sameness in fact.

Jackie:  So in other words “the architect,” what would you call it?  I mean a cloned body, is that what we’re talking about, by a hermaphrodite?

Alan:  An exact duplicate of that particular deity and that’s the symbol behind even occult Judaism and Catholicism and all the rest of them is a hermaphroditic figure. That’s why you have two creations or beginnings of species. Not the first beginnings. They talk about regenerating the planet, which means to repopulate, but you have two beginnings where the deity creates male and female and then later on you look and it says there’s no one to till the soil so he creates Adam and Eve. What they’re talking about there is those that were made in the same image of the gods, if you like, the human gods, man and woman, are the upper elite group who will control the world; whereas the Adam and Eve types are the workers you see. It’s a system that they’re describing more than anything else, wrapped up in a story. It’s a system.

Jackie:  Well, what is their ultimate plan, Alan? I mean at least as you understand it?

Alan:  The ultimate plan has been laid out and spoken of by many of them such as Aldous Huxley. He went into the fact that science – and that’s what they mean in freemasonry when you read them talking about the law of nature and following nature and by dissecting nature. In other words, everything that works in the world of physics and biology et cetera and chemistry; once you understand it all, you can then take the original material and the world which was left imperfect by the Creator (according to masonry) and reshape it into their own perfection. Everything is to be recreated in their own perfection.  Huxley was well into this. Lord Bertrand Russell also talked about the need to do this and Charles Galton Darwin also said exactly the same thing. He says already in the 1950’s, Galton Darwin said, in his book, “The Next Million Years,” we already have too many of the working and lower classes which will be become unnecessary in the future.

Jackie:  Well sure, they already are with all the computers and robotized machinery.

Alan:  He says we can’t allow them to simply proliferate and procreate and reproduce themselves because eventually they’ll be too many for them to be controlled by the establishment. None of these authors ever talk about government or democracy, never, because government and democracy is nothing but a front; an absolute front and always has been a front for what we call The Establishment behind it. Whenever you hear the speeches or read the books by these people, they simply give the agenda and they don’t even bother to pay lip service to this Punch and Judy show we call politics. They’ve written about it, what they would have to do and sure enough every year the United Nations since about the 1950’s, since the polio vaccine came out in the 1950’s, they tell you every year what the male sperm count is in the Western world and they go through the countries. Now they never give a comment. They simply give the statistics as though it’s quite natural. Last year they said that the male sperm count in the west was down 75 percent of what it was in 1950. Now that should mean a crisis level if it was some sort of strange natural occurring phenomena like a disease; but if they don’t comment on it, it tells you right away this is part of the agenda.

Jackie:  I know but there’s still a lot of children being born.

Alan:  There are, but the fact is if you look at the population, especially the white population, it isn’t just that they aren’t having so many children. It’s the fact that the males are becoming almost sterile and what sperm left is too weak to reproduce, so there are other reasons behind this, but this all began with the inoculations. When you mentioned the Protocols they did mention in there that they would kill off people and so on by inoculations. It isn’t science fiction of the past we’re discussing. It’s the laying out of an agenda which is being fulfilled and they’ve almost reached their goal. Aldous Huxley thought it was just fantastic that they could eventually manipulate the DNA and clone different kinds of people for the task to have to perform—minus that part of the brain that gave them their higher intellect or self-awareness as an individual. That would be cloned out you see.

Then you jump back 2,500 years from when he said it and you have Plato talking about the exact same thing in “The Republic” and Plato belonged to the mystery religions. He was part of the Greek aristocracy and he said, “we the aristocracy are descended from the gods.”  You connect that once more with the same God created man and woman and later created Adam and Eve and you’re back to the same thing again. There’s an upper elite group who literally have been running the world for many thousands of years and they have sham governments as fronts, always, in every country and the agenda has never faltered and no part of the agenda has ever faltered regardless of what political party in power. We are literally at the stage where in 50 years or less, maybe 40 or 30 even, and according to that Loyola University meeting, they hope to have the chipping completed by about 2018. Well, that’s the end of individual consciousness for the general population.

Jackie:  I thought 2012 was their magic number.

Alan:  No, they want to start it around then. They want to start it then and have–

Jackie:  Start what the chipping?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  You said they started that back in the ’60’s.

Alan:  That’s when they were experimenting. They want to have the whole population chipped. Now they’re going for everyone you see. The experimenting is over. They have the one that works best and they said that at that meeting and now the only problem they have is to convince the general population to accept it. When they were testing them out on people, these subjects didn’t even know they were being tested out on; it was done covertly. They’ve laid their agenda right out and they’re going full steam ahead with it.

Jackie:  So people knowing this, what do you think?

Alan:  I think it should be the prime preoccupation of their life from now on to literally—they better—train themselves very, very quickly that they are in the battle for their lives and train themselves not to get distracted or even switch off for a little while to have the relaxation that they’re used to or the programming they’re used to from TV. They better start dedicating themselves 100 percent to combating this because it’s coming fast. In fact, Canada just announced that they’re having next year a fake general killer flu alert and they’re going to have a massive testing of how the hospitals will react across the whole country next year. In that blurb from the CBC they also mentioned that in the future with the chip implant they’ll be able to track down the actual carriers no matter where they go in the world very quickly and so here’s another plus you see pushing for the chip. In two or three years time with the propaganda that’s coming out, Joe Public, I’m afraid to say it, will actually look upon this and believe this is all for his benefit and will be looking forward to it, never knowing there’s a completely different intention behind it because Joe won’t know who he is once that switch is thrown. He will be controlled by a computer. He literally will be remote controlled so he won’t have the ability to even know he’s an individual.

Jackie:  What can Joe do knowing about this?

Alan:  He has to start telling everyone he knows. It’s like that quote you read by Mother Theresa. It doesn’t matter what they think of you while you’re doing it. Do it anyway because it has to be brought out. Everyone has got to at least know the truth behind this and that’s the only way they can combat the propaganda that’s pushing for it and they better also instruct their children in it too very quickly.

Jackie:  You know this conversation it can just take us everywhere because you know the thought that enters my mind?Unless people have seed – at least the natural seed as we know natural today, because maybe it all has been genetically modified in times gone by, but the kind of food that is being purchased and brought home and eaten from the grocery store with all of the junk that’s in it, Alan, and I mean you think about it. I read this a couple of three years ago. They have carrots that you can get a hepatitis B vaccine from and we have know idea what types of vaccines are being – I mean some of these plants are actually growing that vaccine or whatever. It’s out of this world, but what good does it do knowing about this when you are eating meat that is irradiated? When you are eating food that has all kinds of preservatives and additives and chemicals and probably vaccines and God only knows what in it. What good is it going to do to know it, Alan?

Alan:  They’ll have to spend extra money and try and get organic produce.

Jackie:  You know it is possible, even if you live in an apartment, you can actually grow vegetables in containers. I don’t know.

Alan:  But here’s the kicker too, you see, there’s something else that was talked about recently and I kid you not. It’s the banning of home gardens.

Jackie:  Oh yes. That came up a couple of years ago.

Alan:  It came up again from the United Nations. Of course their spin on it is that the additives that people use in the soil and herbicides are destroying Mother Nature et cetera and therefore they want to stop all home gardening and hope to start this program in two years. I mean they’re going the whole way and people better understand this very quickly because it’s coming to a place near you. They better get up and get off that chair and throw that TV out the window and go to the meetings where they’re supposed to be discussing this because they will go through formalities, and they better stand up and say no damn way.

Jackie:  And bring your own documentation and handouts.

Alan:  The fact is you can’t leave that meeting until you’ve got your way because we’re in a battle now for our lives. That’s what we’re in and there are people at the top that quite calmly discussed the elimination remember of over three-quarters of the human race in the next 20, 30 years and they mean it.

Jackie:  I know they do mean it. I know that. And you know when we get into these types of conversations and it’s like we’re swimming in it as we’re discussing it and always what comes back to my mind is that there is nothing more important right now than to get our own house in order and I’m talking about our own spiritual house.

Alan:  That’s right. Everyone’s disconnected, or, if they’re plugged in at all, it’s to a regular church which isn’t speaking out about the very things we’re talking about because they’re part of the agenda, the control agenda. I mean why aren’t the churches speaking out about this and telling their flock the sheep what to eat or what grass to eat here? They’re saying nothing about it because they’re part of the control and organized religion has always been used for that very purpose.

Jackie:  Yes, and Passover is coming up and there will be a whole, whole, whole slew of Christian Zionists or whatever in God’s name they call themselves that will be taking the Seder meal in the synagogue with the Talmudists. We have to take a break here.

Alan:  The time is getting so short as to where the world is going and how were all just going along, like the Pied Piper’s followers, in a trance, being entertained to death and the entertainment is actually our programming. If we look at the movies they’re churning out and have been since the Loyola meeting to do with chipping the brain, where they said that all novels and movies would start to contain stories about this and point out all the plusses. You simply take the Matrix movie as an example and you have Neo, who is the new man to come. His name means “new” and of course Anderson comes from Andros, which is the Greek word for man. He is the new son of man, and how does he get in and out of the Matrix? He plugs himself into it from the back of his head and he has all these amazing powers and the children think that this is fantastic and of course the whole idea is to make people believe you will have super powers. Now I’m well aware that there are people who will want to escape from the world and plug themselves in like the Lawnmower Man and that is up to them, but for those who are beginning to wake up, I think they should start shaking themselves awake very fast and learning fast and dedicating themselves to fighting this because once it’s happened, that’s it. It’s game over. There’s no second chance. It literally will be the end of consciousness as you know it. A good book to read on that is “The Ghost in the Machine,” and here’s another problem with modern society. Most people who are on the internet tell me they cannot read a book anymore. They just simply can’t go through a book because they’re getting bits and bites and that’s their new language is little bits of things.

Jackie:  What do you mean by that, Alan, people who are on the internet?

Alan:  I get them phoning me up and they’ll ask me where do I find this information or that information. I’ll tell them well you go to your library; I’ll give them the names of the books to look up. Most of these types of books are available at the library or can be gotten through inter-library loans. As soon as I mention a book, they tell me that right out that they can’t read a book anymore.

Jackie:  How do you respond to that?

Alan:  Well, I say why bother phoning me for information with a clarification that they’ll only look into it if it’s on the internet. Now the internet is designed to be fast-paced and to recondition the minds to think in short bits and bites, and people who use the internet a lot, I’ve noticed, they don’t read anything right through. They get bits and bites of it and this is again intentional. Zbigniew Brzezinski talked about giving it to the people back in the 1960’s and what its real function would be. It’s a preparatory phase of conditioning the mind to actually to the binary code, because the whole computer system runs on zeros and ones, ones and zeros, and hence the high number 10 in Masonry. It’s conditioning the actual minds to be nearer to a computer’s logic than a human logic and they don’t realize this.

Jackie:  There are whole books on the internet.

Alan:  Yes, but they can’t ready anything right through. Now, anyway, getting back to “The Ghost in the Machine,” for those who can’t be bothered to read the whole book, just read the last chapter and that’s by a man employed initially by Stalin as an officer. He helped in the starvation of millions of Ukrainians and he tells you in his own writing in that book that he was so conditioned in believing in the communist system that what he was doing was part of “historical necessity.” That’s the term they use when they have to eliminate vast populations.

Jackie:  You mean that’s what he was told and he believed it?

Alan:  Yes. Now you think after he tells you this that obviously he’d changed his mind.

Jackie:  That’s what I was going to ask.

Alan:  But that’s the big shocker when you find out that, no, he came over to New York worked for the United Nations. He taught in universities there and he worked for the UN think tanks on ways to literally lobotomize that part of the brain, the higher intellect, and that’s why it’s called “The Ghost in the Machine.”  It’s that illusive part that is your spiritual connection with the body, you might say, that makes you you and his job was to try different techniques. He said there were other think tanks and they had regular meetings and the other think tanks were employing other means of trying to achieve the same ends, and he worked for about 20 years on this very problem. In the last chapter of the book he goes through not only what they decided on doing and he does mention, by the way, dumbing the people down through altering the food, adding chemicals to the water and so on to make them more accepting of the next phase, and he also rationalizes the reasons for having to do this to bring world peace. Utopia to these elitists is going to be a hell for everyone else if they get their way and these people are deadly, deadly serious.

Jackie:  You know, Alan, utopia for them is whoever is left of the underlings will be so drugged or maybe they won’t even need to be drugged by then, but I don’t know if there’s any truth to what their plan is if you’re reading like “This Perfect Day” or “1984,” those. They have the drugs. Anybody who suddenly felt some type of emotion reached in their pocket and took out a soma and took the pill to get those emotions gone. Well, think about this. If this is true, I don’t know, but it has been reported in newspaper reports that they’re finding high quantities of Prozac and all these psychotropic drugs. Evidentially, what the body doesn’t absorb is being excreted and it is not being filtered out; it’s in the drinking water, Alan.

Alan:  It’s been in the drinking water because they’re also spraying it along with other chemicals in these trails above our heads.

Jackie:  You’re assuming that.

Alan:  No. Rumsfeld said it right after 9/11 on television; he was asked what their plans were if there was another major crisis in a city where the people began to panic and he said, “we already have chemicals to spray over entire cities containing Prozac and Valium; aerosolized Prozac and Valium.”  Now if he said that then it doesn’t take much to come up with the equation that they’re already do it and of course because it’s being found in the drinking water is simply diverting reality of where it’s coming from. Because the people today, many people are beginning to lose their short-term memory and I’ve talked to many people who complained of it and yet they feel sort of happy as though they’re tranquilized and that’s what’s happening. It makes perfect sense as we go through these massive world changes and societal changes, the biggest changes that have ever happened since the Industrial Revolution began and all the people were moved into the cities. We’re going through the biggest changes society has seen for hundreds of years.

Jackie:  Hundreds of years?

Alan:  Yes and it makes perfect sense to drug down the people as you bring them through it. It makes perfect sense, but Rumsfeld admitted that.

Jackie:  Do you feel tranquilized?

Alan:  Not so much. Occasionally I’ll get bouts of being tired, but what I’ve also noticed is those who are really, really awake prior to this don’t seem to be affected the same way and I think it’s because they’re so used to studying that their mind sort of compensates, because as you study you must memorize and so on. It keeps your mind alert.

Jackie:  Do you suppose there could be something to it, those who are more spiritually conscious or connected, aware of the connection?

Alan:  I think so.

Jackie:  Maybe so, Alan.

Alan:  There’s no doubt about it. I’ve done my own sort of unofficial surveys and that’s what I come up with all the time. As I say, you must always be able to jump from where you are into the mind of the controllers and you can only do it by studying them and their writings. It makes perfect sense to drug the people as you’re bringing them through such incredible changes, leading ultimately to the extinction of individual consciousness. You would have to drug them and make them happy.

Jackie:  Or not necessarily happy, just emotionless. Happiness is an emotion, Alan, and unless they’re giving a happy pill, I would think that it would be just an emotionless that they wouldn’t feel much of anything.

Alan:  Well, they don’t, you see. They don’t even respond much – I mean they can sit there and eat their dinners and watch Iraqis blown up by mistake, whole villages, and it doesn’t bother them. If you can’t cry for every catastrophe that’s occurred on this planet to all the different people, if you can’t cry for them, there’s something wrong with you.

Jackie:  Well, if we did that we would be crying all the time.

Alan:  We should be crying all the time.

Jackie:  I mean the sorrow or the compassion that you feel.

Alan:  It’s the empathy and when you lose empathy then you’re emotionally stunted. Something has happened to you and that means that if all those around you are the same, well, who’s going to cry for you when they come for you?  No one will, so we better wake up fast and really see what’s going on here and try to become as human as possible, and by that, I mean use the humaneness within you. Use it with others fast and for others fast, regardless of what they think of you because the time is really getting short now. When you watch how much spraying they’re doing almost all over the planet right now on a daily basis – we’re watching clouds that have come out of science fiction movies but they’re right above our head and it’s no movie and this is happening daily now. These clouds are becoming the new norm to most people who can’t remember what the old clouds look like. They have gone the whole way. They have tampered with the food. They have altered them for vaccinations, but it’s done to such a micro level that they can also create drugs within the food as well, just like soma was opium and we know where opium comes from. It comes from a plant. They’re simply doing the same thing again.

Jackie:  That’s why they called George Bush’s father Poppy.

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  Not because he was his papa, but because of his opium dealings. We have a call here. Hi, you’re on the air. Who are we talking to?

Myron:  Yes. Good evening. This is Myron from Georgia.

 

Jackie:  Hi Myron.

Myron:  Yes, I called in last night also. I’ll be very brief as possible. I want to state that I received Mr. Watt’s booklets and I thoroughly enjoyed them. Very, very informative. I’d like to say something. I’ve done my own personal research on freemasonry and I went to the local library within my town as well and I came across a book. It’s an autobiography of Albert Pike and the name of the book was “The Man Beyond the Monument” and the author’s name is Jim Tresner. Within the book he states that Albert Pike made a remark, and if I may, may I share my brief remarks of what Albert Pike had stated?

 

Jackie: Yes do Myron.

Myron:  It states on page 76 of his book was a remark made by Albert Pike is this.

            “To the ancients, this light was an outflowing from the Deity. To us, as to them, it is the apt symbol of truth and knowledge. Masonry is a march and a struggle toward the Light. For the individual as well as the nation, Light is Virtue, Manliness, Intelligence, Liberty. Tyranny over the soul or body, is darkness. Masonry to the Masonic Brethren is a search after, and a journeying toward Light. The Masonic Light is Truth. It is the inculcation of truth by means of symbols and instructions. Teaching a pure morality by its lessons and lectures, it is also a great system of philosophy and of political and of religious truth concealed by symbols.” Thank you, ma’am.

Jackie:  Thank you, Myron. Alan, now I’ve said this before so often because what he was reading didn’t sound terrible. Tyranny over the souls of man is darkness. How do you explain this?

Alan:  Because on the lower levels that’s exactly the propaganda they do put out and you must remember even the word “man” does not refer to ordinary people in their religion. The profane are not really men and women. In fact the profane are subhuman and of course when you really – well, read Albert Pike’s own book, not by someone else. Read Albert Pike’s “Morals and Dogma” and he tells you that freemasonry is a religion and he tells you again, he says, “make no mistake. Lucifer is God,” and unfortunately so is Adonai.

Jackie:  He says that in “Morals and Dogma“?

Alan:  It’s in “Morals and Dogma“. Make no mistake, he says, “Lucifer is God.” Lucifer is the light you see he’s talking about.

Jackie:  In the Masonic rituals, I actually have this in Chapter 16 and 17 of the book, they say to the freemasons when they get up high enough the lost word is Jehovah. That’s in one of the initiations or the part – so Lucifer and Jehovah are the Masonic gods?

Alan:  They’re two sides of the same coin.

Jackie:  Well of course. I mean Lucifer – the reason I’m saying this is because of the call I received from a listener who said that referring to Jehovah as Lucifer is blasphemy, well but it isn’t Jehovah it’s Yahweh, and that I was being put on an altar, that he would take me if I was wrong or take her if she was wrong. Now this is not a cruel lady. What she is saying she means it with all of her heart and soul because she believes with all her heart and soul that Yahweh, or however they do it, that is creator and that is the god Jehovah but it’s using his name wrong. You see the whole thing is so twisted.

Alan:  When you cut through the chase of freemasonry, most people don’t get beyond the third degree and they’re quite happy as a Master Mason, you see, but “life begins at 40” and that’s what it means, the 40th degree is when they start to tell you what the real truth is.

Jackie:  There was a Masonic song and it was sung to the tune of “God Save the King,” which is the same tune of, what is it, “Oh Beautiful for Spacious Skies,” or whatever, well right in that song the lyric are Jehovah, Jove, Oh Lord.

Alan:  That’s right and Rudyard Kipling also wrote it and he said, “Jehovah, Jove, by George.”  It’s a big joke to them because ultimately in freemasonry the high masons are taught the truth. As they come in the Grand Master sits in the East you see where the sun rises–

Jackie:  Yes and you know what they say?

Alan:  And they go round the altar and the secret is that you have become a god.

Jackie:  They’re building temples and tabernacles in the soul of man and nations, and when they ask which way are you traveling from Babylon to Jerusalem. This is up somewhere around the 16th or something like that level but it deals with Jerusalem and the temple and the avenging of Hiram Abiff and it all goes–

Alan:  Hiram Abiff is not a person. It’s a symbol of the higher self, the godhood within man, and the three unworthy craftsman that they talk about they often call it the JUWES; like Jack the Ripper used. It’s desire, thought and action. That’s what they stand for. Desire, thought and action used impulsively will kill the higher god within you and you become the low profane. That’s what it means. It’s all allegory you see.

Jackie:  I know but you know there is so many people who say I am a Christian and worship and adore Yahweh, Jehovah, Jove, Lucifer and they don’t even realize they’re doing it, Alan.

Alan:  That’s how far mind control can take you and really it’s also a choice for them and you can’t really do anything about it. The time has come where you have to concentrate on people who do want it. Those who are worshipping the traditional religions, on the one hand, they’re preaching the terror of the last days, the ETs, extraterrestrial or end times; they have a joke for that one. On the other hand, after they’ve terrified their flock, they say: “but don’t worry, God is in control” – so who’s doing it?

Jackie:  Yes and Jesus said that the kingdom of God is within you.

Alan:  Exactly.

Jackie:  And if that isn’t the most outward of our expression, and I know I’m not saying that mine is, but that would be our desire to be an expression of our creator.

Alan:  Remember Albert Pike was also a member of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (SRFM) and if you speak it, you see, that’s another one of their little tricks, if you speak it you have Seraphim. Seraphim are the highest order of angels beneath the Cherubim, and the Scottish Rite calls themselves the Order of the Perfection. When you’re perfect, a Perfecti, you are now a god on earth; but of course they can’t publicize that at the bottom.

Jackie:  One of the degrees is called the Knights of Kadosh or something like that. In my researching I find that the first Jewish synagogue or temple or whatever, was the temple or the whatever, Kadosh, and there we are in one of those degrees of freemasonry.

Alan:  It was also a battle place.

Jackie:  Okay. We’ve got a call here. Go ahead caller. Who’s there?

Kate:  Hi Jackie. This is Kate.

Jackie:  Yes Kate.

Kate:  I want to know from Alan, you know the Catholic Church years ago have been taken over by the Jewish masons–

Jackie:  Yes, we’ve only got a couple of minutes, honey, so be quick.

Kate:  What I want to know is this other pope that died or they killed him, why did he always hit the ground when he got off the plane?

Jackie:  Alan?

Alan:  I think he was afraid of flying, or maybe he was just kissing his own property, but the fact is the mystery religions has been always present within all organized religions. It’s behind it.

Jackie:  We’re out of time.

Alan:  Okay.

Jackie:  Ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be back Monday. Thank you, Alan.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

April 27, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday. It is the last night of our broadcast week of course and our guest again this evening is Alan Watt. Alan, thanks for being here tonight.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Let me do this and as you know, I was just a little bit behind tonight when you called. What I would like to do first of all from Matthew 25, Jesus said:

             “For I was hungry and you gave me meat. I was thirsty and you gave me drink. I was a stranger and you took me in naked and you clothed me. I was sick and you visited me. I was in prison and you came unto me; inasmuch as you have done it unto the least of these my brethren ye have done it unto me.”

 

I like that. That’s pretty. That’s so real, isn’t it, Alan?

Alan:  It is, yes, and there’s no money involved.

Jackie:  Well I know but what I mean is that it is true. Let me put it that way: that what we do to one or for one, it’s to all or for all.

Alan:  That’s right. It’s natural humanity.

Jackie:  That’s what I mean. What I would appreciate if you would do – I know we talked about it last night, but let our listeners know again this evening. Folks, today is Wednesday it is the 27th of April in the year 2005. Maybe I gave the date, I don’t think I did. Today is Chuck’s birthday, his birthday in this third dimensional world, and I just wanted to remember him to you, folks. Alan, if you will, tell our listeners about the books.

 

Alan:  My books go through freemasonry, the banking system of ancient times up to the present, how countries were taken over and empires built up and then destroyed as the money powers moved on. I also go into how these bankers created the world religions and helped to dominate the peoples they took over in foreign countries by imposing these religions, installing priesthoods, generally from the Middle East, and setting up churches in each country, which also served as a branch of their banking system. Therefore, the gold that was lent to these countries ended up underneath these churches for so-called “safe keeping.” It’s an interesting read, each one of them, and the secret society that was on the go 5,000 BC is still on the go today and that’s why nothing really changes. [See www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com for ordering information.]  It’s the same system of debt creation, which gives power to private bankers over the countries and obviously then it gives the bankers the right to dictate policies of those countries, just like Alan Greenspan does.

In Canada we have the Bank of Canada, which is not a Canadian bank, it’s actually a board of men who were picked by the international bankers who liaised with the Canadian government. They’ve pulled this trick in every country and really only 12 families or so are the international families which lend to every country, and technically they lend nothing, but they want repayment in real goods or gold and that’s how it is up until the present system.

Jackie:  And they never print enough money to pay the usury that’s charged.

Alan:  That’s correct and they must always keep a country in debt. Even in ancient times when they would take over a country by force, often, because they employed armies of countries they’d already conquered, they would install what they called a tyrant or dictator and he was well-paid for his function and he would immediately start massive public works and projects and build mausoleums and so on. Of course, this was borrowed from the bankers and they created the debt system, which was based also on compound interest, meaning you could never get away from the debt. You couldn’t pay it off, so the bankers ended up having complete control over the country through the front man who was the tyrant or dictator. Later on, of course, they gave us democracy, so you have a bunch tyrants basically fronting for the bankers and it’s all the same system. They’re all Masons of high degree, pre-picked before the public even see them up for election and they vowed complete obedience to the organization they serve, which is not the people you see. It’s an ancient system. It’s well documented in some books in fact and even many of the ancient Greeks especially wrote about these bankers and how they operated and how they had been taking over the countries 2,000 BC by the same techniques.

Jackie:  And they wrote about it in Genesis.

Alan:  That’s why they put Genesis together, the “Gene of Isis,” because it contains their mystery religion and of course religion dominates the mind. That’s what its function was meant to do. It limits your scope of thinking.

Jackie:  I received a call from a listener last night and he is a long-time listener but he was really thrilled to hear you mention the CIA behind many of the shortwave alternative broadcasts, but he said, ” to be honest with you, I had quit listening for a while when you had Alan on and he said that Jesus was the same as Jupiter.” And I said no he didn’t and he was convinced and I said, “no, you misunderstood what he told us,” and I looked it up of course. I didn’t carry this on in the conversation but you can search and find it in so many places that Jehovah, Jupiter, Jove, are all one and the same.

Alan:  That’s right. Rudyard Kipling even wrote a little poem on it, and it ended with “Jehovah, Jupiter, Jove, by George.” That’s how it ended; he was a high mason too, so they all know. Of course it’s a mystery religion and it’s been around for thousands and thousands of years and they’ve controlled all other established religions. They certainly took them over from the beginning. You can see even in the New Testament where you have obviously a person who was doing extraordinary things such as taking bankers out of the temple, standing up to the priesthoods of his day and decrying them for what they were, which again was front men for other powers, so you can see there was a real person there. Where it comes to the addition of the old mystery religion which Rome put on it, you can see the 12 disciples and Jesus as the sun, so they added on the old mystery religion on top of the real character you might say.

Jackie:  The real individual, the real person?  I’m sorry. You go right ahead, Alan.

Alan:  It’s easy to discern a real person and what a real person is doing, as opposed to the standard sun and the 12 disciples, or the sun and the 12 signs of the zodiac, which had preceded the idea for thousands of years. In the Egyptian times it was 10 signs of the zodiac and they changed two of the signs. One was a hippo and one was an alligator, although the hippo was more important to the sign at the time.

Jackie:  Why? What did it mean?

Alan:  It’s the only animal which can fart through its mouth.

Jackie:  Are you serious?

Alan:  Yes. It’s a fact.

Jackie:  Is that a joke?

Alan:  It’s true. It’s a pretty formidable animal and you don’t want to face it anyway.

Jackie:  Well, wouldn’t we call that a burp?

Alan:  Not really. This literally was from the other end. It came right through its mouth.

Jackie:  Oh my, my. But that’s why it was so important?

Alan:  It’s because it could also swim underwater and on land, and of course they like the symbol of the Nile bringing the life to the area and onto the land and so the hippo could signify that or symbolize that. It could swim into the water and come onto the land.

Jackie:  One of the thoughts that I have had – you know you have shown us how they have used the astrological wheel, all of that, as part of their mystery religion. Well, Alan, they don’t do that for fun. My thought is well and I don’t know. You may not agree with this and that’s okay, but I find that there – for example, if an individual has an astrological chart drawn up the person who draws up the chart, the astrologer, if it’s a good one, doesn’t have to know anything about the individual and like a natal chart. Of course it doesn’t mean your life is mapped out but it seems to me that there is relevance in understanding the energy from the different planets and how they play upon us at certain times and it’s just too accurate in too many ways for too many people for there not to be some merit to it; but maybe that’s why in the Old Testament they tell you not to go to astrologers, because I think Christians think that it’s sinful et cetera, et cetera, but I would like your comments on that. I mean why – for example, the number 13. I thought about this and of course they gave us Jesus and his 12 disciples. Were there 12 disciples? I don’t know but I thought to myself – in fact I’ve said it. One time I was talking to a group and somebody was talking about the number 13 and I said well the energy, the color, each color has its own – would we call it a vibration or frequency, and the tuned and musical tones, the notes, everything really is quite beautiful the way everything kind of meshes and joins together. But I thought well maybe there’s something about the number 13 the energy of it that is powerful. So we’re told that it’s an unlucky number and they won’t put a thirteenth floor on a building et cetera, et cetera. And Jesus, what was it, his 33rd year, did he begin or was he crucified?

Alan:  Crucified.

Jackie:  Okay, so they use these numbers and they use the astrological signs and dates, and I wonder if that has to do with what they call their windows of opportunity.

Alan:  They definitely use the solar chart as a timetable because it’s a clock and it’s a clock which deals in hundreds and thousands of years, and their plans are ancient, but they say themselves the plan came down or came to them around 4,500 BC. That’s when the plan to take the entire planet over and how it would be done was supposedly drawn up. That’s why you see two dates on Masonic temples, the date it was built, in modern numbers and times, and they had the other one with AL on it (Anno Lucifer), the fall of Lucifer. They have that date plus the 4,500 years tacked on to it.

Jackie:  Didn’t you say this plan is much older than even that?

Alan:  I believe so. In fact I think that plan is only one phase of a much older plan.

Jackie:  In other words, maybe it was the tweaking. Maybe they tweaked it.

Alan:  Or revised it.

Jackie:  Or revised it. It was like that Rabbi Ricorn said at some funeral. This is a quote allegedly. I wasn’t there so I can’t say for a fact, but what he said in this, it was at a eulogy, I believe, a friends funeral, he said we get together every 100 years to take a look at where we are and to plan out the next 100. You know, Alan, I thought my goodness, because when you read the Protocols and you see how everything is falling right into place and according to the way they laid it out. Then you think well that was 100 years ago, but we know they say in the Protocols it is said this plan that we have had underway for 2,000, 25-whatever-hundred years. Well, it makes sense that every 100 years or so–

Alan:  It’s no different from any corporation. They literally plan ahead 100 years.

Jackie:  Boy, do they plan.

Alan:  Even the World Council of Churches plans ahead in 100 years and of course David Rockefeller started that up.

Jackie:  Getting back to the astrological thing, if they are the keepers of the truth, of the mysteries and it is so important to them, I guess what I am saying is that it makes some sense to me that there is something to it and they don’t want people to know.

Alan:  It’s not that at all actually.

Jackie:  What is it?

Alan:  They wanted people to believe exactly what you’ve said, that there’s strange powers and so on, that’s the exoteric, but they kept the esoteric meanings to themselves. Pythagoras of course was the first one to write about this in the Greek language.

Jackie:  Write about what?

Alan:  This particular – you were talking about colors, tones, astrological signs and so on. In fact the name “tone” comes from Pythagoras and the tone of a color or the tone of a sound comes from Pythagoras and the weight ton all comes from that as well.

Jackie:  But I’m talking about a type of energy or frequency.

Alan:  That’s what they talk about.

Jackie:  Now maybe all of this is a lie. In a book that I read “Tuning the Human Instruments,” and this was written I think back in the ’70’s, that they were experimenting in Russia using let’s say vitamin E. There’s a certain energy frequency from vitamin C and that they were literally using those frequencies to—how would you say it? Not inject, because they’re not using needles, but that energy, that frequency that vitamin E makes up that literally people were able to have those vitamins. Am I making any sense? Are you understanding what I’m saying?

Alan:  I’ve not quite got the end part.

Jackie:  In other words, why do you say they want you to think that a color has a certain frequency or a tone has a certain frequency?

Alan:  What Pythagoras did – and remember he had been trained in Egypt and went back and taught in Crotona, which was a Greek outpost, and he started his own school up. He, like many afterwards, he recruited young aristocrats who had to pass tests to get in and they had to also have a vow of silence for the first three or four years, just like the later Essenes, because that was a later edition of the mystery religion. Then he selected certain ones to go into the real mysteries and he also taught females and gave them a great education and they became so desirable amongst the nobility, and the female’s job was to go out basically and help to subtly take over the mind of the nobility that she married and change their political persuasions and so on, so it was a form of control.

Now for the general population, which they called the profane, the people who are uneducated, they gave out the stories of magic, mysticism, again that these were real powers in the sky et cetera, the constellations and the planets. However, for themselves they used it all as allegories for other things, which was to do primarily with the aspects of their plan for the future and the time clock. That’s why George Bush, Sr. after he mentioned the New World Order looked up and he said, “everything is going to the heavenly plan.”  He was talking about Aquarius, the Age of Aquarius that we are in now.

Jackie:  Fine. That’s what I’m saying. It means something to them.

Alan:  It’s nothing more than a timepiece for them because it’s been used before.

Jackie:  But they have their windows of opportunity. I’ve heard them say it.

Alan:  Yes, and they must through them, but that’s why all the early symbols of Christianity was never the cross. You’ll always find it inscribed as the fish, for the Age of Pisces, so the Age of Christ was to take us through the Age of Pisces. That’s why it’s written, and of course it’s tampered with, but it’s written that Jesus tells them to go and find a man carrying a picture of water, signifying the end of his reign.

Jackie:  The age of Pisces?

Alan:  That’s right and so Aquarius is the carrier of the water. Now the water itself is a feminine symbol, so that’s when women must rise to the top to be used, not for their own purposes, but to be used by those behind the Grand Plan. It’s working very successfully as you see the destruction of everything that was in order to make way for that which is to come. This is an incredible – you can’t really read about it in five minutes. You’d have to read and study the Egyptian Book of the Dead and you’d have to study many of the inscriptions that were left by the scribes of Egypt and cursive shorthand, which they had as well as the hieroglyphics, and you compare that with Babylon, what’s been dug up there and their inscriptions, and then you’ll find it’s the same mystery religion in every empire that ever existed down through time.

Jackie:  And is that where the Cabbalistic–

Alan:  The Cabbalism was literally taken from Babylon. It didn’t originate in Jerusalem and the Cabbala was added to the–

Jackie:  The mysteries?

Alan:  Yes. That’s why it has the 10 fruits on the trees of the Tree of Life, because at that time when Babylon created the Cabbala there were only 10 signs of the zodiac you see. So it’s a very, very in depth mystery religion and you have to study it intensely to understand the different languages and miss nothing. If you miss anything at all, you can miss the most amazing things.

Jackie:  Okay, the “Egyptian Book of the Dead,” is that available in English?

Alan:  Yes. You can get translations.

Jackie:  Are there translations that are real and translations that are lies?

Alan:  You’ll get different translations. You have to go back to either Beardsen who was the initial historian–

Jackie:  How do you spell that?

Alan:  B-E-A-R-D-S-E-N, I think it is.

Jackie:  Would that book be available?

Alan:  It should be through libraries.

Jackie:  I would just buy the “Egyptian Book of the Dead?”

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  And do you have a first name for this Beardsen guy?

Alan:  Oh no. He’s always just called Beardsen and also you can get E.A. Wallis Budge, who was another translator in the early part of the 1900’s.

Jackie:  But let me ask you this: Are they the same translation?

Alan:  They’re pretty similar because you must remember from the hieroglyphs and you’re talking a different language into another language, you have to often–

Jackie:  Substitute words.

Alan:  Substitute and almost unfortunately destroy some of the meanings, or else use more than just one word to translate one word. You might use a phrase occasionally to try and get the whole meaning of it there.

Jackie:  Well, let me ask you this: Have you read both Beardsen and Budge’s “Egyptian Book of the Dead?”

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  If you were going to recommend one, which one would it be?

Alan:  Budge’s is cheaper and it’s just as good really.

Jackie:  E.A. Wallis Budge.Thank you, because you see I’m still not really following what you’re saying. You’re saying they want us to think that there is some importance to the astrological signs and times and ages, but there really isn’t, but they use it for their own plan.

Alan:  No. They want you to think that there’s a magic quality to it.

Jackie:  I don’t understand. What do you mean magic quality?

Alan:  That there’s forces and powers you can get from the stars or the planets.

Jackie:  When I was saying what I was saying, I wasn’t talking about forces or powers. I was talking about influence of the particular planets at particular times et cetera and you know that I am not a fool. I know that I have been naïve. I know I’ve come out of a lot of ignorance and I’ve got a long way to go. I have had an astrological chart drawn up and the person that did it did not know me from Adam; and it was me, the natal chart that was drawn up. And I had one drawn on the girls and maybe our listeners are going to think I’m cuckoo and New Age and all that, but the reason I did is because I saw how very much the chart that was drawn up on me was me and there are influences that maybe can be helpful throughout our life, and I don’t mean using that to live by. I don’t mean that at all but there is something to it. That’s what I’m saying. I don’t know what it is to it, but if these guys use it – and you know what, we’ve got to take our break first. We’re back. Alan, thanks. Okay, well, I don’t know. Maybe we ought to just get off the subject because it just isn’t making sense, what I’m not doing and it isn’t because I don’t want to understand. I’m just not understanding what you’re saying. They use this and yet–

Alan:  They used it for their own plan’s time-clock, you see, and every symbol and every planet is a symbol of part of their action, like Mars is a God of War, for instance, that type of thing; so when that would come into the appendancy, that means that they would use that time for their war.

Jackie:  The wars have been going on forever.

Alan:  Oh, I know, but the big ones at certain times, the really big ones, the big changes, that’s really what they mean by that.

Jackie:  So in other words, it isn’t a particular really more effective for them. It isn’t more that they can influence people more at that particular time. It’s just the timeframe that they use?

Alan:  That’s it, yes, and as I say, they planned it such a long time ago. I don’t think it’s the first time it’s happened and the Hindus say that we go through these phases you might say of birth, living and then destruction. These are called “ages” and of course in the legends of all peoples we have these world disaster periods, floods and earthquakes and so on. Even in Sumer, in the Sumerian tablets, they claim that prior to their coming into existence, their city, there had been catastrophes on the earth where old continents had sunk and new ones had arisen from the sea.

Jackie:  That they created?

Alan:  It’s possible. If you go into the writings of Tacitus, who wrote for Nero, he talked to the Druids in Britain and they claim that they had records of three previous ages, maybe 125,000 years apart, and that the survivors and the high priests of course, always the nobility–

Jackie:  They do survive, don’t they?

Alan:  Yes. They tunneled into mountains and took provisions in to live for long periods; and that tallies with the records of Greece, where their priesthood tunneled into Mt. Parnassus and claimed the same thing that they survived the disasters.

Jackie:  We’ll take a call. Do you have more you want to say on that, Alan?

Alan:  That also tallies with the story of the Ark, because there’s no Ark as such, it’s allegory, but the mountain Ararat that it lies upon is riddled with tunnels.

Jackie:  There we are. We have a call. Okay, you’re on the air. Who are we talking to?

Myron:  Yes. Good evening Ms.–

Jackie:  Oh, is it Myron?

Myron:  Yes it is. How are you?

Jackie:  I’m fine.

Myron:  Good evening Mr. Watt.

Alan:  Good evening.

Jackie:  Okay, go ahead.

Myron:  Last night I heard you mention Passover and I was wondering if Mr. Watt could explain this teaching of the Passover that many ministers teach out of the Old Testament and what is the symbolism or the meaning of this Passover that’s really being talked about?

Jackie:  Okay, good question, Myron.

Myron:  Yes, thank you.

Jackie:  Give him just a minute to get his radio turned up, Alan. Okay, Passover.

Alan:  That was a fairly recent invention because the historian Josephus, who lived in the 1st century AD, claims that the Passover was a fairly new institution and it hadn’t actually grounded itself with any historical past.

Jackie:  Wasn’t the Old Testament already written then?

Alan:  I doubt it.

Jackie:  It was the first century AD?

Alan:  Yes, I don’t think the Old Testament was all written at all.

Jackie:  Not all written but weren’t those first five books already put into–

Alan:  That’s the first five books of Moses. The thing is, as Josephus said, there was no – it was hazy as to why it came into existence. It was a festival time and sometime it had been equated with a festival of lights, which they usually had at these times, but, as far as a bloody sacrifice type thing, that wasn’t part of it at that time in his day.

Jackie:  Hanukkah as they call their festival of lights, but I’m reminded of Velikovsky’s book and you had mentioned him so often and World’s in Collision” and oh my goodness, Alan. That book and the “Earth in Upheaval,” I couldn’t put them down when I got started reading. This is another thing. I’m glad Myron brought this up because I was thinking of that because it doesn’t jive with Velikovsky’s book, as far as at least that one “Cataclysm” and I think it was supposed to be around 3,600 years ago when the comet came around and did all the damage et cetera, but he talks in there about what the rabbis actually said about that time because it wasn’t something the way the story was written in Exodus. It was a worldwide conflagration.

Alan:  In fact, the Babylonian priests wrote more about it than anybody because they were the main scientists of their day and astronomers. After it was over they were called into Egypt because they had to reset the world calendar because the time of the earth’s spinning had changed.

Jackie:  The sun was even coming up from a different place.

Alan:  Yes and when it settled down.

Jackie:  And they had to find out where the seasons were.

Alan:  They had to reset the calendar.

Jackie:  Well, here’s the thing, that in Velikovsky’s book, he said that – well, you know in the Old Testament version in Exodus that the sun was gone for three days and the darkness was terrible. Well, on the other side of the earth, historical writings say that the sun stayed in the sky for three days and the rivers running red with blood. It was happening all over the world because of some stuff that was coming out of the tail of that comet–

Alan:  It was raining fire.

Jackie:  They said that too, but the red – Velikovsky mentions this in his book from many different sources and it was almost a water soluble type of a mineral and it did stink and–

Alan:  And it also burned up the cattle and it was red hot.

Jackie:  Therefore these rabbis and it was a compendium I think of what the rabbis basically said, that the so-called Exodus – people were leaving because they were looking for food. They were looking for water and that if there were – if they were not Hyksos, if they were whatever his chosen people were, that 49 out of 50 of them died and it wasn’t just them leaving.

Alan:  No, no. Everybody was running.

Jackie:  Everybody was on the move.

Alan:  Also the peoples of the sea were coming in from another direction hoping to get away from it too.

Jackie:  Right. Therefore what the Pharisees, scribes, whoever wrote all of this, they just took a historical event and wound it into–

Alan:  A myth.

Jackie:  The private little story about the chosen people.

Alan:  It’s a myth.

Jackie:  Yes, a myth and that Jehovah brought all these curses down on the pharaoh’s people because pharaoh wouldn’t let his people go because Jehovah had hardened his heart so he could–

Alan:  Well, that’s fine. Jehovah was more honest because he also played the devil you see.

Jackie:  You know this seems awful stupid to me and I don’t mean to offend anybody but this is supposed to be our loving Creator and he says well I want you to go get my people. You tell the pharaoh to let them go but I’m not going to let them. I know he’s not going to let them go because I’m going to harden his heart so they won’t and then I’ll bring all these plagues down and I can prove to the world that I’m the Lord God almighty.

Alan:  Really, he’s playing solitaire with himself.

Jackie:  I don’t mean to joke about it because I know to some people this is very hurtful, but, gee, all we have to do is take a look at it and say wait a minute. It depends upon our concept. Of course I don’t know that any of us have truly the concept of Creator, but we can know what it isn’t, Alan.

Alan:  Well, that’s it and in the Talmud they’re more upfront with that, that no one can actually know or figure out the mind of a creator.

Jackie:  Do they actually say that?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Okay, so then who do they say Jehovah was?

Alan:  That’s another deity. They even have another story of Moses. In the Talmud it’s different from the one in the Old Testament.

Jackie:  Do they?

Alan:  Moses was actually a full Egyptian, Ramoses; it means child, Child of RA.

Jackie:  Son of RA.

Alan:  So he left and he wanted to take over the pharaoh’s job and he went to Ethiopia and builds himself up there, recruited an army and went to attack Egypt, so there’s a whole different story told in the Talmud.

Jackie:  Okay, Myron’s actual question was: Is their symbology there?

Alan:  There’s astronomical symbologies and also agricultural symbology. It’s a pass-over from death into life for spring and planting, the crops and so on. It’s all nature and pantheistic, really, and it’s a time for planting and also for seed. It symbolizes the death lying through the winter comes to life again, the resurrection.

Jackie:  Like Easter?

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  Just like Easter. Okay. All right, that makes sense.  Freemasonry, for anybody who’s a freemason who might be listening or who knows one, I’d like to share, if I may, Alan – this is a part that I had forgotten all about. They suck them in and they stroke them and groom them and they mention some place in here it will be the people in high offices and it will be the judges and the administrators and you mentioned I think last night the captains, the police forces. All of them and there they are and they say oh well we might spare them or some of them but the others we’ll kill.

 

Alan:  There’s one thing that Masons do allow the public to know through a rumor, and that’s if you join it you get unmerited favor and help with your career and promotion and so on. They make sure they get people who really are almost corrupt anyway who will join it for those very reasons. They also tell you you can bypass petty bureaucracy and get tax relief and so on, if you join. That’s the bait.

 

Jackie:  Tax relief?

Alan:  They get different assessments.

Jackie:  These local and county and city officials and state legislators, do you think that every time they raise taxes, property taxes et cetera, do you think their’s get raised?

Alan:  No, they don’t and neither do lawyers because lawyers help with the real estate scams and so they are automatically are exempted from land taxes.

Jackie:  And these people think they’re going to be exempt from all the evil they’re doing?

Alan:  What they don’t realize is you see most people on this planet, at the moment, at this stage that we’re at right now, are expendable and it’s coming to the stage where they’ll try and fulfill the promise to wipe out over three quarters of the population. There will be an awful lot of people wiped out, good and bad, if they get their way and they’re ready for it now. We know this because they’ve been prepping us for years with coming plagues and all this stuff, at the very time when we know that we can splice genes and join anything to anything, even viruses to bacterium, which is the flesh-eating disease. It’s the first one in history that was created, two different species joined together. They’re ready to unleash a lot of stuff on the public and these will not be race-specific. These will spread right through–

Jackie:  Not race specific, right. There was an article in a newsletter just recently that said that the scientists somewhere have been given permission to create a mouse with a human brain.

Alan:  They’ve done more than that. They’ve done all of these – whenever they tell you they’re doing something, this is the old stuff. They were doing genetic modifications in the 1920’s.

Jackie:  And if the mouse starts acting like a human being then they’re going to make them quit.

Alan:  Well, he might become maybe a Christian mouse. So there you go. There’ll be a whole new set of lawyers to deal with all of this.

Jackie:  One of the things I don’t think that we’ve discussed and maybe our listeners, a lot of them, know about it, but maybe they don’t, was that terrible flu virus that they shipped. Would you talk about that? Will you mention the plague?

Alan:  In the papers about a week ago, supposedly the CDC had sent out thousands of vials of 1950’s version of the flu to laboratories all over the world and also one shipment with Ebola.  Now, I don’t know if they really did this or if it’s a scare to the public, because it seems an incredible thing that they’d do, but certainly it’s having an effect on the public of terrifying them and getting them ready for a coming plague.

Jackie:  Well, it will terrify them if they read the article. However, I remember the article that I read that somebody had emailed on the internet. They said that most of these have been mailed from the U.S. and their concern is that some of the labs haven’t received theirs yet.

Alan:  They said in fact, in the last document about it, they said that my goodness the ones that had not been destroyed was in Lebanon but they were in the process of destroying it. In other words, psychologically they were attaching it to terrorism.

Jackie:  Sure and not only that, but it will be a good excuse or justification – well, what brought it to my mind was when you said the plagues that they are readying. This could be a prelude to it. You know this sounds like such a downer. You can’t not talk about it, Alan.

Alan:  You cannot face truth unless you look at the dark side, you see, and that’s the problem with people. They’re egosyntonic. They’ve been trained that way. They want to only look at the things that make them feel good and because of that they’re wide open to whatever it is going to happen. That is a choice because maturity takes a person, and truly seeking truth, takes a person to look at all sides of everything and you must be prepared to look at the blackest black you’ve ever looked at—the void.

Jackie:  That was in the chapter of the Family of Dark which I shared with our listeners a few weeks ago and that’s what they actually said, that in order truly to be in light, if you would, enlightened or aware, you have to know the depths of the evil, the darkness.

Alan:  We’ve got to get out of this Disney World where people are really responsible at the top and are there because they’re good and decent and just people. The opposite is true. The corrupt people are at the top and it’s only the corrupt people who can get to the top in this particular system we live in.

Jackie:  Before we go off the air tonight because we won’t be back until Monday, a thought that occurred to me that I would like to share with our listeners is in knowing this it doesn’t mean that we have to dwell on it every moment of our lives, folks. We share the information with those who want to know and there are times – there are precious moments and those precious moments are times that we spend with our loved ones, with our children, with our friends, times of being quiet and seeking a self-awareness. In other words, we don’t have to swim in this sea of darkness. That’s what I’m trying to say, Alan, because I wouldn’t be able to live.

Alan:  Most people couldn’t and that’s what I say. Those who think that they can’t face it shouldn’t even look at it. They should continue the way they are and what makes them happy, but those who are looking for truth have no option but to look at the dark side.

Jackie:  Yes, I understand, but do you understand what I just said?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  That we don’t have to swim in it. In other words, we know it. It’s there and once we know it, we cannot un-know it, but, in other words, if it is all we dwell in – well, maybe I’m only speaking for myself. It would be unbearable and I just wanted to say that because there are precious moments and there are times even when you say some silly thing to lighten up the conversation. In a sense, that’s a precious moment. Okay, that’s what I mean because that’s what I mean because I don’t want to leave the broadcast tonight on just a note of hopeless, helplessness, evil, darkness, because it isn’t all evil and darkness. Like you said, there are good people and there is love in this world and really it all begins with us.

Alan:  It begins with the individuals who must look at everything and who have gone through the darkness and come out again and they know that it’s evil and they know that they must fight it, you see. It’s not an occasional fight. You know you’re going to fight this thing with everything you’ve got.

Jackie:  Yes, exactly. We’re out of our hour tonight. Once again, thank you so much, and ladies and gentlemen, we will be back with you Monday and thank you for being here and Creator bless you all tonight. Good night, Alan.

Alan:  Good night.

(Transcribed by Linda)