Alan Watt & Jackie Patru – Sweet Liberty Radio – may 2005

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“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

May 2, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Monday and it is the 2nd of May already in the year 2005 and we had snow flurries this afternoon. I wonder what your weather is like, folks. It sure doesn’t feel like May. We had one day that was 80 and a few very nice days, but other than that, this is not spring. Not here, not yet, except the birdies say so, so maybe it is.

Let me do our spiritual message right now and then we’ll bring our guest up. This is from John 4 beginning with verse 4.

            “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”

And in verse 7:

“Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God and everyone that loves is born of God and knows God. He that loves not, knows not God for God is love.”

That is the only thing in this physical world that I see that is real, ladies and gentlemen. I’m not saying that because I say it is so, that in my mind and in my heart there’s nothing real here other than love and our expressions of love to one another and to ourselves. And Alan Watt is with us again this evening. Alan, thank you so much.

Alan:  Yes, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Well, I was outside doing stuff today and I get really I guess what it is is because it’s staying light longer and I’m not a clock-watcher so I kind of judge the time by what the darkness is. I’m going to have to quit doing that because I keep getting – you were very gracious to come on with two minutes notice.

Alan:  It’s no problem. We’ve got the same weather this way.

Jackie:  Same weather?

Alan:  Yes, it was sleet and snow for a while.

Jackie:  Today?

Alan:  They’re standardizing the weather.

Jackie:  Yes, along with frozen pizza, Alan.

Alan:  Yes and the rest of the continent.

Jackie:  Well, it was very short notice when I called you of course and I really didn’t have anything in particular in mind to talk about. Is there anything that you would like to discuss with or bring up for our listeners tonight?You know I don’t have a real good voice level on you. I suppose you haven’t done anything different, have you?

Alan:  No.

Jackie:  And I suppose we’ll hear a click a little later on, then your voice level will come up.

Alan:  There’s always so much going on behind the scenes because most of the politics that we’re given is just drama and the gossip they lay out on the politicians and so on to keep the people busy, but the agenda that was written a long time ago, to not only unite the continent, but to unite the planet under a particular system, is rushing full steam ahead. Of course everybody’s been kept so busy running as the buying power of their money decreases, so they’re running faster and faster to get all these toys they’re supposed to have according to what they’ve been told that’s their standard of living. However, since we’re not the producers anymore, the manufacturers, it hasn’t dawned on most people that the system as it is now is not meant to last for very long. It’s a “service industry” they call it and that’s what they told Britain as well when they united them into Europe, that they would become a service industry.

Jackie:  The U.S. is a service industry too.

Alan:  Yes. In fact, I’ve got books from the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the CFR (it’s both the same club), because you don’t want to have the royal in front of the American name so they called the CFR, but their 1937 meeting held in Australia, their annual meeting, in there the Minutes of the meetings are there, with the speeches and everything, and one of the speakers said that they would set up China to be the manufacturer for the world, in 1937.

Jackie:  We were talking about this and you had mentioned – Alan, thank you for bringing this up tonight. You know when we have conversations off-air so often and I don’t say it, like I used to do, I wish we were doing this on the air, but our last conversation and I thought oh my goodness I wish our listeners could hear this. We were talking about this and you mentioned why they chose the Asian people and would you explain this to our listeners what you did last night? And I’ll tell you I’m going to turn my mike down. I’m going to run out and grab a robe because it’s chilly where I’m sitting so I’ll be back. Okay, thanks Alan.

Alan:  If we look down through history, pretty well every country on the planet has been invaded over and over and over by one group or another; but the one that’s the least invaded and left alone has been China.  I used to wonder why they left China to be such a pure race, compared to all the rest of the peoples whom they mixed up through invasions and so on. Then you look at the culture of China and I thought well what’s different about the culture? Well, they’ve never known what we call freedom of any kind. Not that we’ve had really much freedom in the last few hundred years, but they also are a mass man. In the sociological books you can get from any university library, where they have the different cultures delineated and broken down into traits and so on, you’ll find the Chinese like – actually don’t mind being in a crowd. They like to “rub shoulders” as they say in the books with their fellow man; whereas of course the Western people like their distance from each other, “don’t invade my space” type of thing. They, although not so much in the last 1,500 years they have not been an inventive people, prior to that, inventions were in China. They had detection devices for earthquakes 2,500 years ago.  I wondered why all these main invaders gave China this big passage of clearance, including Napoleon who said let the sleeping dragon sleep. No one wanted to invade China and it wasn’t because China was well armed or anything. In fact it was mainly a peasant class catering to the few nobility across the whole length and breadth of the country and it’s been that way for a couple of thousands years. Even though they’re not an inventive people, they can certainly mimic what they’re given very, very well.

Jackie:  They can what?

Alan:  Mimic. They can copy very well what they’re given. If you look as the history as it’s unfolded, Western Europe primarily was used for the last couple of hundred years or more to go through an industrial era of intense misery for the general population, especially in factory towns. During that time we developed machinery et cetera and then we went through the electronic revolution, technological revolution; and now that we’ve completed our mission basically, apart from conquering the last of the Moslems to bring into the system, they’ve quite candidly through the GATT treaties and so on handed all of what were American or what we thought was American and Canadian and British and German and so on companies. They’ve handed them lock, stock and barrel over to China. They set them up and they moved them, complete factories.

Jackie:  Yes. And did you say while I was gone what you said about why they chose the Chinese?

Alan:  Because the Chinese as I say are perfect for this era, perfect to be the manufacturers.

Jackie:  And why is that?

Alan:  In an advanced type of manufacturing. They didn’t invent anything in that manufacturing. However, they didn’t have to. We simply handed it over once we had basically perfected technology and simplified it to its basic form.

Jackie:  But you also mentioned their work habits.

Alan:  The Chinese are known to be so obedient to their masters for thousands of years that they’d work all day and half the night if need be and nothing has changed, really, even though it’s communistic run. They don’t have a culture where there’s a lot of kindness between each other to help each other out either, so they’re divided to an extent in that respect. They’re ideal workers for this particular era, and very, very cheap too, to be the manufacturers for the whole planet. When you look back on things you can see the plan and you can smell the plan actually for hundreds of years. In the later books in the 1900’s and the 20th century and into the present day, you actually see it all happening and been written down that this was going to happen. We’ve lived through the transfer of technology to China with the factories lock, stock and barrel.  I used to wonder why would the West be training thousands of engineers of all kinds in the western universities for the last 30 years when they were supposedly your prime enemy, they were communists, but all of these engineers have been trained in Canada.

Jackie:  So these are Chinese people?

Alan:  Yes, coming to Canada, Britain, Europe and so on, and getting the education for machinery—which they did not yet have. Of course, since about 1990, we’ve seen the exodus after the GATT treaty of all the machinery, which they had been trained to use but didn’t have, we saw it all transferred to China. Now everything is made in China.

Jackie:  You know this is something that was brought to my attention and I suppose maybe many people have considered this, but until it had, it was during the NAFTA thing.  I had never thought about it, but during the Depression there were plenty of people to work and there were plenty of people to purchase or manufactured items and food goods that were produced on the farms et cetera. But the Depression was simply the withdrawal of course of the drawing in of the money, just the way the story goes in the Old Testament in Genesis when Joseph gathered up all the money and took it to the pharaoh. But there were the factories sitting there, Alan, you see, and so that when they decided they’d start trickling money back in, well, today there are no factories sitting. They have not just moved the manufacturing. They have moved all of the factories and either flattened the buildings or I guess they’ve just demolished the factories, period, so it isn’t a situation like it was after the Depression.

Alan:  Yes, because they know that they were not going to use them ever again.

Jackie:  You mentioned service industry. When I remember hearing about that, I thought well everybody’s going to be doing what? What do they mean by this?

Alan:  There’s an esoteric meaning to all the words in the English language.

Jackie:  Well, say what it means to you.

Alan:  “Ice” always means when you put something on ice, it means to stop it, to cease it, you see. Service is to “SERVE ICE,” you see. Just like they “park” continents down through history and leave them and go back to them.

Jackie:  Yes, but they’re talking about a service economy, so the actual meaning of the word is just, oh, stop the economy?

Alan:  To stop the whole thing because we are now unneeded. We’re unnecessary. That’s why they’re re-wilding the areas around people in the country, while those people are still alive, they’re putting in carnivores and predators. I mean that’s telling you something. That’s telling you that shortly there is not going to be those people living in the country.

Jackie:  Well then think about – what I wondered is how would people have work and of course today millions don’t. But in the Protocols it’s just amazing. I’ve been scanning them lately and you know every now and then you do that and you pick up things – of course I had already had this circled and highlighted but it’s just a reminder.  So when you think about it there are government jobs and there will be the people who will be spying on all the people. It’s exactly like Orwell’s “1984,” Alan.

Alan:  That’s been happening for a long time.

Jackie:  I know, but it’s really getting obvious today. I mean it’s blatant to people that have never read “1984” or really thought about what’s going on. It’s been the ‘slowly boiling frog syndrome.’ Well, they’re nuking the frog now. I mean this isn’t just fast cooking. It’s nuking the frog.

Alan:  They’ve been spraying us like bugs from the sky pretty well daily for the last few years and this stuff supposedly has aluminum and barium in it, which are used for clotting agents for wounds and things.

Jackie:  For what?

Alan:  For any kind of wound or hemorrhage.

Jackie:  Barium and what?

Alan:  Aluminum oxide.

Jackie:  And it’s used for what?

Alan:  You can use them for clotting agents if something is bleeding.

Jackie:  Do you put it on the wound?

Alan:  Yes, you put it on a wound.

Jackie:  Okay, I think I’ve heard of that, Alan.

Alan:  If you see that in Canada for instance and in other countries now for the last couple of years, the government is putting out ads warning people on the signs and symptoms of strokes. Now we’ve got young people coming down with strokes all over the place, which is again a clot, you see, lodged basically in the brain.

Jackie:  Haven’t there been a lot of young athletes dying suddenly that have been strokes or heart attacks?

Alan:  People are getting sick. They have these hacking coughs they can’t get rid of and those who aren’t affected, as yet, eventually will be because everyone’s got a tolerance level as they ingest this stuff, breathe this stuff in and drink it, because it’s in everything. It’s in the food, the water and in the air we breathe, so eventually it will come to a crisis point and I’ve no doubt as we go through a rising death toll we’ll still see the same familiar faces on TV and the same comedies and Joe Blow will think well everything must be okay because it seems the same on the TV.

Jackie:  You know that terrible cough I’ve had lately? I mean I’ve had that on and off for a long time but sometimes it’s gone and sometimes it isn’t. Well, I just have to say this because I want to share it with our listeners too. I started taking my MSM again about five days ago Alan and it is clearing up amazingly. I’m not doing anything else different. I haven’t been doing – I did a couple of days oil of oregano but boy I’ll tell you and it’s always been my left lung whatever it is that I’ve had but it’s clearing up and I knew it would.

If our lungs are being damaged and there is a natural form of sulfur which the body requires in order to function property which is missing and the body can reproduce those healthy cells, the body could repair damaged lungs.

Alan: I wouldn’t agree with you.

Jackie:  Well, that’s okay. You don’t have too.

Alan:  I’ll tell you why: Because as you’re being poisoned, you see they’re laying this stuff on thick and they’re not letting up on it to let you heal, and it’s in the ground water. When the snow melted this year there was three inches of this ‘candy cane’ type stuff all over the fields, which was the drying residue of a few months of accumulation of spraying that was in the snow; and on the first day of the sun it starts to go down and then when it dries it turns back into its chemical parts, white powders. We’re being sprayed like bugs, like roaches.

Jackie:  Yes, but what does that got to do with you don’t agree that what? You don’t agree that anything could heal the lungs?

Alan:  How can you heal something as you’re being poisoned all the time?

Jackie:  I don’t know.

Alan:  It can’t happen.

Jackie:  Well okay, let’s put it this way. Let’s say if that wasn’t an ongoing onslaught the healing could happen and possibly think about this, Alan. Without it, maybe the damage continues until the person drops, so maybe it at least keeps them a modicum of health.

Alan:  If they want to try it they can try it.

Jackie:  I don’t sell MSM, Alan. I have nothing to gain here, honey.

Alan:  As you’re being poisoned, it’s like getting a transfusion in one arm with the cut wrist on the other.

Jackie:  Yes, okay, I want to share something else with you and our listeners but you also. When my mom was told that she had a cancer on her vocal cord, they did radiation therapy on it. Is that what you call it?

Alan: Yes.

Jackie:  Ladies and gentlemen, as you know, our guest is Alan Watt and I apologize for the time that I’ve taken away from because Alan is our guest tonight but we’ll talk about MSM another time.  Alan, thank you. We have a caller who has a couple of questions for Alan. Alan, do you accept my apology?

Alan:  For what?

Jackie:  No, not you, Allen. Alan Watt. Well just because I’ve been talking so much.

Alan:  It’s all right. It’s actually yours.

Jackie:  No, you’re my guest, so do you accept my apology?

Alan:  Yes, sure.

Jackie:  Allen is on the air from Michigan and he wants to ask you a couple of questions. Allen from Michigan, are you aware that you’re going to have to hang up to hear his answer?

Allen:  I didn’t ask the question yet.

Jackie:  I know but I wanted to know if you know that.

Allen:  Yes. I liked to know why Billy Graham was picked by William Randolph Hearst and the second question. Does he know anything about the Masonic lodges where they’re dated when they’re put up and established, they’re dated Anno Lucis. Does he know anything about that?

 

Jackie:  Okay Alan, did you get both of those questions?

Alan:  A bit on the Hearst thing was a bit fuzzy.

 

Jackie:  Okay. Do the Billy Graham question again, Allen.

Allen:  I wanted to know why Billy Graham was picked by William Randolph Hearst to be America’s preacher, and the other question was does he know anything about Masonic lodges being dated by Anno Lucis, like 5526 A.L. Anno Lucis?

 

Jackie:  Do you understand that question Alan?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Okay. He’s going to hang up so he can hear you.

Alan:  That’s after Lucifer’s fall, supposedly, meaning the light coming down and it’s the same story as Prometheus bringing the wisdom down, the light, the torch, the fire to those who could accept it. Of course the Masons claim that around 4,000 BC that’s when the plan to change the world—the ways of living from a natural system into their system—began, which is to culminate with the evolution of man worldwide through physical and scientific means, which is exactly what they’re coming to.

Jackie:  This is on Masonic lodges as the date, yes?

Alan:  Yes. They have two dates. They have the one that was built and then they have the same date plus about 4,000 years.

Jackie:  And that was after the fall of Lucifer?

Alan:  Or Prometheus. It’s the same story.

Jackie:  Okay, but Lucifer being the fallen angel, yes?

Alan:  Yes. The light bringer.

Jackie:  Oh here you come, Alan.

Alan:  Did it go up?

Jackie:  Oh, it’s wonderful.

Alan:  Maybe the operator was getting interested.

Jackie:  You know what, that could very easily be whatever it was. Thank you, whoever upped that volume.

Alan:  Then as far as Hearst goes, Hearst was not just a self-made man. All these big boys are put in place. They’re trained for what they’re to do because their job is to control the minds of the people and they do it through media. Media is an arm of government. It’s an essential arm of government. You can’t mind control the people without it, and as long as the people think it’s free and independent, they get suckered and they believe in it.  Hearst of course picked Billy Graham because Billy Graham is a 33-degree Freemason and he’s been open about that in the last couple of years, and of course freemasons as Napoleon, as Benjamin Franklin said, and many others: “When I’m in the Middle East, I’m a Mohammedan. When I’m in London, I’m a Christian, et cetera, et cetera.”  In other words, they could be whatever they want, you see. Billy Graham’s job, as any high priest has always been down through the many centuries, is to once again control the minds of the people. That’s his job. He’s a multibillionaire probably but he’s a 33-degree Freemason. At least that’s the Scottish Rite.

Jackie:  Or maybe even higher.

Alan:  Well, “life begins at 40,” so he’s probably over the 40th degree into a higher lodge.

Jackie:  Is that what that means, Alan?Life begins at 40. In other words, when you hit the 40th degree–

Alan: You start to get the truth. Below that, under the 32nd degree it’s a camouflage even for the people involved at the bottom, who truly do think it’s a self-improvement society. There’s charitable work but if you’re involved in any kind of mind control, which is media, even a local newspaper, the Grand Master will pull you out of the lodge and tell you to be at a certain place at a certain night and he will take you to the Black Lodge, where you go up higher, you see. Those in the Blue Lodge won’t even know that it exists. This is what they do. They pick out the ones who are useful for mind control primarily, or politics or whatever, and they thrown them up through the higher degrees.

Jackie:  And many of them reach their high levels of politics because of their ready status as a freemason?

Alan:  Absolutely. They’ve proven their worth. You see, the workman must prove his worthiness, which means that you can keep your mouth shut and follow orders. That’s what it means. A Mason is avowed to instantly obey the order of a superior Mason without hesitation and he must immediately reserve all his moral conscience to himself and obey it. These guys have been involved through petty little scams and so on at the bottom to see if they can keep their mouths shut, and, if they can, they get up the ladder into the bigger scams.

Jackie:  Oh. They test them?

Alan:  They’re tested constantly. That’s even in some of their older manuals.

Jackie:  How high up do you have to get before you quit being tested?

Alan:  Once you’re up to at least the 96th.

Jackie:  And there’s nobody above 96?

Alan:  There’s 360 degrees in a circle.

Jackie:  Alan, are you being serious right now?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  We say, “he’s a 33rd degree Mason.” Now is that in any book that there are 360 degrees of Freemasonry?

Alan:  What they do is they hint at it all the time.

Jackie:  It makes sense.

Alan:  They hint at it all the time. The OTO, which is the Ordo Templi Orientis, which is a French version supposedly of the Templars, which really is German, and they go up to about 96 degrees and that is official. Aleister Crowley that worked for MI6 in England and everybody in the MI6 had to be a freemason according to Peter Wright who wrote “Spycatcher.” He’s the only guy that wasn’t a Mason.

Jackie:  But it was actually made public that he was 96 degrees?

Alan:  Aleister Crowley, yes.

Jackie:  And Aleister Crowley wasn’t yet at the top?

Alan:  Oh no. He was a good workman. He did his job. Anybody in the public eye will be at least up to 96 degrees. After that, it’s more invisible.

Jackie:  Is this researchable for people?

Alan:  If you really want to go on the trail for it, you can.

Jackie:  You know I’m not accusing you of saying something like you’re lying here or something, but this is something I’ve never heard before and I have a sense that there are listeners who will definitely want to research this.

Alan:  It’s all based on the sun.

Jackie:  In other words, I guess what I’m asking is: through your observation in all the other stuff that you’ve learned, this is what you’ve deduced or is it actually written some place?

Alan:  It’s written in occasional old books and many other books will actually hint at it because you’re supposed to figure it out for yourself. That’s why they say that the profane will never catch on.

Jackie:  So you’re not the profane, huh, Alan?

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  Does that mean you’re one of them?

Alan:  Oh no. Everything is circular and of course it’s based on the movements of the sun going through the zodiac and so on, and the planets going round the sun. Well, what does round mean? It means go around in a complete circle, one revolution, and of course they give you all the visible symbols of the serpent eating its tail et cetera but most people don’t catch on.

Jackie:  The serpent eating its tail.

Alan:  Of course theosophy has that on its logo.

Jackie:  What does that signify?

Alan:  They give you different meanings depending on what category or degree you’re in; and Albert Pike admits that, that the guys in the lower degrees must not necessarily know the meanings of the rituals and words but they must think that they know. As they get up they say, well, all that stuff they told you before was just nonsense.

Jackie:  But what does it signify to them?

Alan:  Partly eternity, and they’ll you that at the lower degrees it’s eternal. It’s their power for eternity, by the way, but in the higher degrees of course you start to – if you look at sun dial or anything and you say wait a minute, it’s round here and it’s all marked off in degrees, why would it stop at 96?  It doesn’t.

Jackie:  Okay, that makes sense.

Alan:  Mind you, too, it’s admitted today that if you have the money and you have some kind of import as I say in society with your views and opinions, even a column writer for a newspaper, they can take you from nothing and put you up to a 32nd degree freemason in a matter of a couple of weeks, if you pay, because you pay all the time you see. The 33rd degree is honorary and it’s after that of course that you really get into the real stuff, if you’re asked.

Jackie:  Do they get to a point where they have to disavow Jesus?

Alan:  Well, sure because that’s all part of it. They will tell you themselves that all religions (and they kind of boast about it) stemmed from the same solar cult thousands and thousands and thousands – actually almost a million years ago; and prior to that, there was the stellar cult; and prior to that, there was the lunar cult. That’s why the emblems they use come from all three, because they incorporated them all until they became the solar cult.

Jackie:  And it doesn’t mean that just because they use these emblems that the emblems themselves are evil?

Alan:  No.

Jackie:  Exactly. I just wanted our listeners – I remember Chuck because he knew about this longer that I did, but I noticed that for example they used the word light and he would highlight it when he would read it in an article and he actually believed it to be evil because they used the word, and the same thing with these symbols. The symbols themselves are not evil. It’s just that they symbolize something for them and they’re evil, so we relate the symbol itself to evil.

Alan:  Really, if you correlate the evil and the good symbols and you can figure it out, you’ll really find they’re symbolizing the same thing. Although one’s supposed to be good and one is supposed to be evil, which is the intent of mind control. It’s doublethink. It’s holding two opposite opinions in your head about the same thing at the same time.

Jackie:  Do you mean their symbols mean to them what the symbols mean to a good person?

Alan:  Well, sure. I mean everyone’s been taught recently for instance that for instance what they think is the Star of David, which isn’t, it’s got another meaning, but you think that’s a good symbol; all the Christians do, or modern Christians.

Jackie:  The Christian Zionists or Judeo-Christians.

Alan:  It’s modern Christianity but they all belong to the World Council of Churches, which was started off by David Rockefeller who’s a High Mason and Theosophist and he calls himself a world citizen. The whole idea of getting all these churches to belong is the same theology being taught through all the different branches of the church you see. They all teach the same thing, and of course, they don’t even notice the changes.

Jackie:  You were going to talk about the Star of David.

Alan:  That’s been taught to be good symbol and yet you find it in ancient India. I’m talking about ancient India, long before there was any Hebrew or Habiru or whatever mentioned anywhere. It was used in India long before that; so was the swastika and the swastika is simply a symbol of the sun with the feet in its movements. That’s what it stands for.

Jackie:  With its feet in its movement?What does that mean?

Alan:  They always go on about: “if it’s reversed it’s Black Magic”; it’s all nonsense. It’s the direction the sun appears to take as it walks across the sky; and that’s what they used to call the sun, “he who walks the sky,” in ancient Egypt; or Luke Skywalker in the Star Wars movies. It’s all the same thing. We are told to “fear this, but this is okay,” and of course in different times in history you might fear the one and like the other, then they’ll reverse it and you don’t even notice the difference.

Jackie:  It’s what they teach us to fear. You know, I think the number 13 is a real good example of that, that people, oh, 13, and of course they use it all the time. I mean everything to them is 13 and 33 and et cetera and of course we’re told that 13 is an unlucky number and they won’t put a 13th floor on an elevator.

Alan:  That’s from Jacques DeMolay. He was burnt on the 13th on Friday.

Jackie:  So I got to thinking, in their belief it’s a pretty dog gone powerful number so why should we fear it?

Alan:  Yes, or walking under ladders or anything like that, but that’s where it all comes from. These are all ancient symbols of Masonry as it progressed down through the ages.

Jackie:  So we get afraid of what they teach us to be afraid of and they tell us what to like.

Alan:  They can reverse it just as easily and we don’t notice – just like they reversed the cultures when they wish to. During the Industrial Era they really threw Christianity at the people who were starving in the industrial cities to keep them in line. You know, work hard at your 16 hours now for your pittance and you’ll go to heaven. That’s what the religion did for the people in Europe at that time, especially Britain, and of course once that job is over and no more industrialized it’s promiscuity time, just do what you want. That’s how they do it and they go through these changes and the very generation that goes through the major changes doesn’t even notice that now their beliefs in everything are upside down. However, Plato said that was what they could do 2,500 years ago. It was so down pat 2,500 years ago that he could write about that, about the techniques of culture creation coming from the top and the methods of implementing it through the music, the arts, fashion, drama, plays et cetera.

Jackie:  That reminds me of what we were talking about when you said they tell us what we like. You didn’t say they tell us what to like. They tell us what we like.

Alan:  And we believe it.

Jackie:  And you explained to our listeners like the music thing. That never occurred to me, Alan.

Alan:  As I’ve said before, that if the human brain has been the same for the last few hundred years at least, then a teenager who is supposed to come into music around the age of around 13 to 15, and he has a higher acuity of high tones and the low tones in music, the teenager should really like every type of music that everyone 15 years of age has ever liked in history.

Jackie:  Because the brain has not changed.

Alan:  It hasn’t changed but they literally think, “my God this is fantastic stuff.” Their dad or their mom or even their older sister or brother will say will listen to this. “Oh, I don’t want that. That’s old stuff,” and everything that they hear on the radio that they listen to and the magazines they buy and so on is telling them that: “This is your music,” and I’ve said because of that, at the moment, you’ve got people in the old age homes who are listening to Walt Whitman and so on. Then you’re going to get the rockers coming in who are geriatric tapping their feet to Pink Floyd and then eventually you’re going to get geriatrics who are rappers, believe it or not.

Jackie:  They’ll be sitting around listening to rap music because it was the good old days.

Alan:  It was their time.

Jackie:  It was their music and they still love it.

Alan:  And to show you again how it’s all been sold from the top–

Jackie:  These were given to us.

Alan:  It’s given to you. Plato said it. He says no culture is permitted to come from the people themselves. He says every cultural change comes from the top down and it’s always been that way. You know the BBC were the ones in Britain. This is your government station. Everybody who staffed the BBC had to work for Eaton or be at Eaton College. That was a class system you see and here they are pushing Benny Hill with his almost nude dancers in the ’60’s and pushing the pop revolution. I said well why would an older generation be pushing this on a government-financed TV station because it seemed to contradict everything that they’d done to the people before, like be well-behaved et cetera, no promiscuity, and here they are completely reversing it and it came from the top down; so that’s how it goes.

The Beatles were a formulated group. They did not own their own songs. There’s nothing real in show business, regardless of what all the magazines say. That’s the magazine’s job, it’s to make you think it’s all real, but the fact is these poor guys were picked and the songs were written by Theodore Adorno, one of the top musicians or music masters you would say of the construction of music on the planet. He was a Talmudic scholar as well, who could write a sentence that would be half a page long and he would tell you in the beginning of his books that the average person will not be able to follow this sentence and keep grasp of the theme to the very end, because he says we’ve dumbed the people down so much.

Jackie:  Alan, with the television, how they have those three and four second shots and then it switches, then it switches, then it switches. If that isn’t the perfect tool to really mess up a person’s ability to concentrate and focus. How could anybody hold the attention for more than a few seconds?

Alan:  I watched even my parents look at TVs like that and I could see them hypnotized.

Jackie:  Yes, but I’m talking about a child who watches TV all the time.

Alan:  Yes, we know the marketing companies actually do surveys on this because they’re targeting younger and younger children all the time.

Jackie:  You know even the adults, come to think of it, as you said, they can’t hold their attention to get through a book or follow a thought.

Alan:  No, they can’t. Bit and bites are all they can handle.

Jackie:  It has to be in little short chunks.

Alan:  You can’t extend the conversation on a particular topic without them losing track of where you were going with it. Their attention span is getting smaller and smaller. However, as I say, the Beatles, everyone thinks why do they call them the Beatles? Well, it’s the beat, you know; but it wasn’t just the beats. It was from the Greek word Beatyl and it means sacred pillars or sacred stone.  A sacred stone in masonry is the perfectly-shaped ashlar or–

Jackie:  A what?

Alan:  An ashlar they call it.

Jackie:  What is an ashlar?

Alan:  An ashlar is a perfectly-shaped stone squared; so they take the round one, which is the natural one, and they square it as a Mason. Of course that’s why in the ’60’s and ’70’s they called the people “squares” if you were old fashioned and stiff upper lip and work ethic and so on; and so the Beatles were the sacred stones. It’s also the same as the–

Jackie:  The Rolling Stones?

Alan:  The Rolling Stones were natural stones, so they came right out and sang about sex.

Jackie:  And they rolled?

Alan:  They did their roll-ups with their dope and all the rest of it. The Beatles of course, if you look at their songs, were exoteric for the people and esoteric for the message, if you could grasp the messages. Why would they knight Paul McCartney who helped bring in “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds”—LSD?  Why the royalty knight people who created disaster apparently across the country for so many people and a whole culture? Because Paul McCartney was doing what he was supposed to do for that ruling class at the top. What the Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away.

Jackie:  What about Elvis Presley?What did he do?

Alan:  He brought in the male sex thing, which was almost a pre-‘male stripper’, although fully clothed. Up until that time, the man had to be the man, John Wayne type, but now they brought in a young guy and said hey it’s okay to–

Jackie:  Swivel your hips–

Alan:  And do all that stuff and it’s also again hidden meanings as well. EL is the God.

Jackie:  EL, E-L?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Elvis.

Alan:  And the sixth coming race they call it, the next upgrade of mankind is to come (according to high masonry and theosophy) and so you have EL and then you have VI, which is 6, and then S is to shape = ELVIS.  This is all codes language which the masons use all the time and we use these words all the time too, because no one has explained to the people what it really means. The whole English was created.

Jackie:  This is fascinating and I don’t think you’ve talked about this because you did it so long ago and maybe next time you come on you could spend more time explaining this. You talked about the control of the media. We’ll be back with you tomorrow night. Alan, thank you so much.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Bye-bye folks.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

May 10, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Tuesday I just found out and it is the 10th of May in the year 2005. I was thinking it was Wednesday night.

Let me begin here with our spiritual message and then we’ll get started. Well, we are getting started, aren’t we? This is from John 4 beginning with verse 4:

            “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”

“Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God and everyone that loves is born of God and knows God. He that loves not, knows not God for God is love.”

 

 

I guess they should be substituting that word God for Creator because that word is becoming trivial when you think about it, folks, with so many thousands of gods that have gone before.

Our guest this evening is Alan Watt and Alan once again joined us late notice, just because he’s gracious enough to do that. I called Gary at 20 minutes to nine and said I wanted to make we’re on for the night and so therefore I was not prepared with material. Alan and I have been discussing and have discussed the merging of the Americas – of Canada and America and South America. It isn’t just Mexico, folks. Of course, they’ll start with Mexico but the total plan here is to have another European Union. Alan, thank you once again and thank you once again for coming on at such short notice, dear.

Alan:  Yes, it’s no problem.

Jackie:  Yes, thank you. You’re just a nice guy. Well, the national ID and you know I haven’t mentioned this to our listeners and for our listeners who are not on the internet I don’t know if this has even been on the news, Alan, but the House had passed an appropriations bill and it had a national ID stuck in this appropriations bill. The Senate – I did do some searching this evening because I didn’t get any emails on it and I figured I would if the Senate had passed it and what they said is that the Senate had removed, just before they passed it, they did remove that section that would have created the national ID, but it has to go to a conference committee now because the House Bill and the Senate Bill are different; different in the thing can be stuck right back in during the conference committee. I don’t know if this is true or not, but one of the emails I got it was going around the internet quite a bit for people who get this kind of mail and they gave you a direct link for people to contact their U.S. Senators.

Even though we do know that the U.S. Congress – I don’t talk about what’s going on very much in Washington, D.C. because it seems so futile, but they do get hoodwinked, even the bought-and-paid-for ones et cetera, and evidentially there was enough outcry against this thing that they pulled it out of that bill. One of the emails said that they’re receiving about five messages every – or a message every five seconds, I think. I don’t remember, but a lot of them and a lot of well-known groups and organizations were spreading the word on it, so it does pay, even though it seems futile, it does pay to let your voice be heard. At least it holds them back for a minute or two, Alan.

Alan:  Whatever they give you in public they always have two other plans, one on either side of it, which immediately go into effect and generally with a word change or a different name it gets snuck in and the public is looking at the one they’re trying to defeat.

Jackie:  I know that yes absolutely.

Alan:  This is standard and they’ve been talking about it since about 1990, gradually hyping up the need for this card and the biometric companies of course are funding it and they’re lobbying the government all the time. Of course, a lot of the guys in the government either worked at one time for the biotech companies before they went into government or they will work when they leave government, and that’s how the whole system works.

Jackie:  Yes. They go right into the big corporations, don’t they?

Alan:  I was looking at the board on Monsanto and every one is an ex-member of the House of Congress and some have already gone into politics again, so they just revolve from government to multinational corporations.

Jackie:  Like revolving doors?

Alan:  Yes and that’s the definition of fascism and that’s what it is. That’s why the two fasciae [fasces] are there on either side of the Congress Hall. That’s their symbol. It will go through because it’s a “must be” as they say in freemasonry. It’s a done deal.

Jackie:  A must do?

Alan:  It must be done and nothing will stop it basically. The companies that are to make it are already basically got them made and we know that the governments themselves, since they’re all good Masons, know not to ask questions from their higher-ups. That’s how Masonry works. You get ahead by not asking questions. That way, you can’t be held responsible. You say “I don’t know, I didn’t know,” and you’ll still obeying your master. That’s how the whole system works because none of these congressmen want to know all of the details who’s really behind it and what the final outcome is going to be.

Jackie:  Alan, you didn’t move away from your phone, did you?

Alan:  No.

Jackie:  Oh, your voice just went real faint there and you’ve been really nice and loud here I hope it’s just in my headset. I pulled up an article tonight that was written by Ron Paul and I thought about this. Ron Paul’s name, oh boy, everybody’s – in fact they want him to run for president and all that and I would just like to say this to our listeners. Folks, you have to think for yourself. You have to use your logic and your reasoning along with what you already know and anybody like this guy Ron Paul and somebody might get angry at me for saying this but you will discover eventually that what I am saying is so. Ron Paul is a shill. He’s a phony and the evidence is that he can talk about anything he wants to and he’s still a U.S. Congressman; and you take a look at Jim Traficant who’s sitting in prison and Congressman George Hansen, I mean they railroaded this guy because he was opposing the Federal Reserve System, the IRS et cetera. They picked him up off the steps where he was giving a speech, I understand. This happened before I became involved but the man was in prison for years and really his health was just totally shot by the time he got out and if they don’t put them in prison they kill them. So if you for one minute think that Ron Paul is some kind of a hero, you need to stop and think.

Look what they did to Senator Wellstone. Wasn’t it Wellstone, Alan? He said something real bad about the Iraqi war and something I believe connected with Israel and he died in a small plane crash after that.

Alan:  Well, accidents happen.

Jackie:  Yes, right. Accidents happen. Well, I want to remind any of our listeners who think that Ron Paul is a hero, because see, folks, he can introduce all kinds of good legislation and it makes him look good but just know that he wouldn’t be able to mouth off like this – you know he exposes all this stuff and there he is walking around and he’s still in the U.S. Congress. They call this the “real.” This is “REAL.” I don’t know what it stands for but in the article that he wrote about this ID thing, he said, “establishes a massive centrally coordinated database of highly personal information about American citizens,” as though they don’t have it already, right?  “At a minimum their name, date of birth, place of residence, social security number, physical characteristics. The legislation also grants open-ended authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to require biometric information on IDs in the future. This means you’re harmless looking driver’s license could contain a retina scan, fingerprints, DNA information or radio frequency technology.”  And then he goes on about it. Anyway, I think it would be a good idea, folks, even if it holds them back for another 10 days or whatever, but get a hold of your U.S. Senator and tell them to – even though this thing is going into conference committee and they might not take part in it, but they should be lobbying their colleagues to not add the national ID back in it; and who really should be told about this are the state legislators so that they can be on their toes. Not that they are either; but dog gone it, if we just sat back and say everything is futile, nothing is going to happen, you can bet your boots nothing will happen and maybe it gives us a little bit more breathing room. For example, if you don’t have a passport, folks, you might want to get one before this thing goes through because I believe what Alan is saying. I don’t disagree one minute. This is a done deal. It just hasn’t been finalized, but by taking it out of that it has given us a little bit of breathing room.  I don’t know how long a passport if good for, but at least in the past if you let’s say have a driver’s license and they make a change on it, they don’t make you get a new driver’s license, but when it comes to getting it renewed, then you have to go along with all the changes. There’s a possibility that maybe getting a passport now in case you want to do some traveling. I don’t know, Alan?  And that bothers me that your voice level got so low. It sounds like you’re real far away.

Alan:  What I was going to say about this biometric is it also has your voice print on it. That’s another thing that’s in the newspaper. They’ll have your voice print so that wherever you phone from, anywhere in the continent, they’ll know it’s you. The computer will kick in.

Jackie:  I don’t know why I laugh at that stuff; it isn’t funny.

Alan:  This is how far they’re going with it all and they have most of the public trained already through using these preferential shopping cards, where all your purchases are known and sold. The data is sold to companies. The public don’t mind and so they’re used to swiping cards through the machines and so on and they’re already for the next one, and of course there will be a blitz to tell the people how wonderful it will be. Probably Oprah will have somebody on to tell you that, “They’ll find your children.” This is a step away from the chip. That’s what it is, which won’t be in a card. It will be in the old turnip head, you know.

Jackie:  Well, because people can lose their cards.

Alan:  That’s right. Or it will be stolen and there will be a whole rash of people getting mugged for them and out will come the next idea, which they’ve been really waiting to get at, how safe it would be to have this put in you and “look, here’s a few people who’ve had it and they’re perfectly normal.”  It’s a done deal that way too, because they’ve copious amounts of material on that where they’re going to take it.

Jackie:  Yes they have. We’ve got a call. Hello. You’re on the air.

Russ:  It’s Russ. How you’re doing?

Jackie:  Well Russ, it’s nice to hear from you.

 

Russ:  I guess there is a delay coming over the internet–

Jackie:  Yes there is.

 

Russ:  …so I didn’t hear the last thing you were saying. You know Wellstone and Traficant were not martyred until they were martyred, and you said we have to use our minds and think and discern for ourselves; rather than being a respecter or a denigrator of persons, I listen to what they say. It is very possible that Ron Paul will be martyred tomorrow morning.

Jackie:  Okay Russ. Thank you. Good point. Although, let me say this to you about that. Ron Paul already showed himself up a long time ago every time he voted for most favorite nation status for Communist China and he also showed himself when he voted to legalize the seven, or eight or 12 or however many “illegal aliens” that were in this country. Now if that doesn’t bother you, then that’s fine. It shows me who that man is and he will–

 

Russ:  It’s all a part of being discriminating, you find the things that bother you and which we should not expect anybody to be messianically perfect. Everybody’s a mixed bag. That’s part of being discerning is that we don’t look for someone to be perfect so that we don’t have to defend what they do or what they say. We can just say, “oh, Ron Paul says it, therefore it’s good,” rather than it’s good. We don’t want to say it’s good because he said it. We want to say I’m glad he says something that I believe is good.

 

Jackie:  Yes, it’s like Phyllis Schlafly. She’s done some exquisite work and she’s probably one of the most dangerous people in this country. So that’s fine. Russ, thank you for your call. It was good to hear from you. Bye-bye. Well, Russ and I will agree to disagree on this. I know that Ron Paul is a shill and I know he’s allowed to say the things he is because it keeps people thinking that there’s a hero in the U.S. Congress.

Alan:  Albert Pike said it. He said, “whenever the public need a hero we supply him,” so they’ve got one for every type out there you see.

Jackie:  You bet, I know that, and your voice is nice and loud again.

Alan:  That’s the trick to it. They well understand through all of their polls over the many, many years, they know the types out there who vote for whatever and they put them into categories and they make sure there’s one for each category who speaks for you. Of course, you don’t notice when he takes a left turn somewhere that you’re actually following him and then when you’ve turned a complete circle, you say well how did we get here?  That’s the trick to it. It’s very simple, but it’s been used for years.

Jackie:  Even in the States it’s the same thing.

Alan:  It’s the same the world over.

Jackie:  Yes I know but it occurred to me at the state level with a state legislator in California and he just did all kinds of wonderful – he introduced wonderful bills and they never went anywhere.  I found out that it was his doing that almost – not that it made any difference but it was a good resolution; the 10th Amendment Resolution calling the attention of the state, the power that the state has, if they would just use it and he just was out there like the good guy and he introduced it.  Brenda Abbott, a wonderful lady in California had a fax network all across the state and she kept calling and saying do you need us to do anything, this thing is just sitting in committees. No, no. It’s okay. I’ll call if I need you; and then the next thing you know she heard it on the radio that it was sitting in committee and if it didn’t get voted on that day it was dead and he never talked to her, so she got her fax going. Then there was one senator that hadn’t come down to vote on the committee and that’s where they zeroed in on the call and this guy called Don Rogers and said, “please Don, I’m coming to vote for your resolution. Please can you get these calls stopped? We can’t get any work done,” and Don acted like he thought that was just so cool and he was a hero to those people because he was the one that introduced it and he was the one who was going to let it sit and die in committee, but it made him look good.

Alan:  I never forget that tape of Sir James Goldsmith who came over from Britain and addressed the Senate on the dangers of signing the NAFTA and the GATT treaty and he laid it out in the most eloquent language.

Jackie:  Do you have that on tape?

Alan:  I do, yes.

Jackie:  I do too, Alan.

Alan:  He told them, he says, look, Britain is now a province of Europe and the Parliament is reduced to the status of a province (a little fiefdom) and they could make no move without the European Parliament’s consent and they must jump to it whenever the European Parliament gives Britain an order. He says it’s destroying the countries; and of course the big con – you see who’s putting this all together, it’s actually The Council on Foreign Relations. They’ve been at this since their inception. That was their job.

Jackie:  Just for a second here. You do know that Sir James Goldsmith died suddenly, don’t you?

Alan:  Yes. He had a cancer hit him and he was dead in a month.

Jackie:  Yes and you know what he said to these senators? This is so clear in my mind. He said I beg of you, think long and hard before you cast your vote. He was talking about the GATT (WTO); he said it will take America from a slow trot under the NAFTA to a headlong gallop into total economic and social destruction. Those are almost word for word what he said, Alan.

Alan:  He gave all the evidence as to what happened to Britain and the senators all agreed with him, but you noticed I think the next day or whatever they all voted for it.

Jackie:  Except for North Carolina. What was his name? 33rd Degree Mason but he voted against it. He was the head of that committee. Do you remember his name?

Alan:  I can’t remember it.

Jackie:  I can’t remember it either. This guy, actually watching him, I taped it off C-Span the guy I’m talking about, the Senator Earnest Hollings. Oh boy, he was doing some good. I got information from a congresswoman in Maryland and I quote Sir James Goldsmith and Earnest Hollings and if you want to really understand the GATT there’s an article in the NAFTA/GATT section titled “The World According to GATT.”  Hollings was sitting up there actually bouncing in his seat. I mean he actually acted like he was so against it and he did vote against it. I guess maybe they gave him permission to do that, huh?

Alan:  Maybe, yes.

Jackie:  Because that’s usually what they do. If they know they’ve got enough votes, they’ll let certain of them vote the way that you wouldn’t expect them to vote at all.

Alan:  That’s right. James Goldsmith put out a book just before he died called “The Trap.”

Jackie:  Yes. I have it.

Alan:  He goes through the whole process how you sell out your sovereignty. You now have a Star Chamber directing any international trials to do with commerce and so five people basically, whom you never see, decide if your country is penalized, which means the taxpayer actually pays all the fines. This is how it works. If a Far Eastern country wants to put a factory in your country and you put up rules and regulations as to whatever and you tell them you must employ people at the basic wage or whatever and it’s much higher than their country, they can actually fine the country that says no. Britain paid millions of pounds just for the oak trees. I kid you not. They standardized the grain of oak of trees.

Jackie:  The what.

Alan:  The actual grain. They said that Britain’s oak trees were too wavy.

Jackie:  Oh, Alan.

Alan:  I kid you not. They wanted them straight like the German ones and they fined the British who had been exporting this stuff about a million and a half pounds. The taxpayer coughed that up. See, this is a racket you see. It’s actually like a mafia racket.

Jackie:  You know what it reminds me of? Harmonizing the ingredients in frozen pizza.

Alan:  Exactly, same deal.

Jackie:  That is so insidious and when you think about it, and folks, if you get it, I mean this is how finite they intend to control our lives, isn’t it, Alan?

Alan:  It is. I mean the butchers in Britain, the small ones that are still left, were forbidden to carry a carcass of an animal. In Britain you have little sort of open, they call it a close, like a little tunnel between houses, so they couldn’t take it through a tunnel into the other part of their shop because the European commission said even though it was covered over, the top was arched, it was actually really exposed to air at both ends. They fined the whole industry again thousands of pounds and these millions of pounds come out of the taxpayer’s pockets. It’s a great robbers’ scheme as far as I’m concerned.

Jackie:  Yes it is. The congresswoman that I referred to in that article was Congresswoman Helen Bentley. She was really opposing the GATT and I got a hold of her office and they faxed me the information right from her office and you know what was really astounding to me at that time is that there were former congress people who are now lawyers for the foreign countries that were suing the U.S. under these trade agreements, Alan.

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:   And the U.S. which pays – the U.S.  Listen to me, like it’s a – yeah, the people in America pay about probably 40 percent or better of the cost of this whole thing, the UN and all that stuff, and the U.S. gets one vote. One vote, that’s it.

Alan:  People don’t realize where NAFTA and the Free Trade of the Americas is going to take us and for that you have to go back to the first set of talks, which was the Free Trade negotiations, because that’s where they do the preamble. The preamble is the most important part of any document because that defines the meaning of meanings of the words to be used subsequently.  In it, they had just like the European Union, what they do is the countries involved retain their government, which become like a little provincial government like Ottawa in Canada and Washington, D.C.

Jackie:  Okay, we have about 50 seconds till our break.

Alan:  Then what they do is they choose another one. They were toying with the idea setting up the new capital of the Americas in Montreal, which will be the super government for the Americas, and that was done many years ago at the Free Trade Negotiations.

Jackie:  When you say many, about like when?

Alan:  You’re into just before the late ’80s.

Jackie:  We’re going to take a break here right now and we’ll be right back. While we’re on that break a thousands thoughts go through my mind, Alan. Where were we? Okay. This is something I want to say. I remember as I was listening, Hollings was talking about how the quality – what am I trying to say here? The past 20 years is that everything costs more but the wages were going down et cetera and at the same time I was going to say I don’t know how but I shouldn’t say that because stuff does drop into our laps when we’re looking for it or reading it, but this happened in I believe ’90 – the GATT was ’94, wasn’t it? NAFTA was ’93. Okay, in 1974 the United Nations passed their declaration on the new international economic order and I quote heavily from that. I mean it’s the UN’s report itself. It’s the whole thing and the preamble and the whole thing and I quoted heavily from it and interestingly Hollings kept saying the last 20 years, the last 20 years and it was exactly 20 years prior to that that the UN passed that declaration on their new – there was something else in there, but their new international economic order. What they said is that no matter what the economic standard of any country is at the present time, it’s all going to be equalized and you knew immediately they’re not bringing the third world countries up to the standards that were once at least in the U.S., living standards, but to bring us down to theirs.

Alan:  They talk about a happy medium that we’ll arrive at at the same time.

Jackie:  Yes. And I love that, constantly you heard it over and over again, “evening the playing field.” Evening the playing field. I’ve got three UN files here and I have a whole dog gone thing and it occurred to me that it needed to be on our website in the UN section. I cannot find it. I emailed the UN to ask them how I could – because I even did a search. I just cannot find it anywhere, their declaration on the new International Economic Order.

Alan:  The New Deal.

Jackie:  The New Deal. It is just – reading that thing, if you read every word knowing that they say what they mean and mean what they say, it’s terrifying and we’re living it today.

Alan:  The most favored nation trading status was given to China actually when they made the deal with China that Britain could have Hong Kong for 100 years. That’s how far back this whole plan goes.

Jackie:  Say that again.

Alan:  When Britain made the deal and signed this agreement with China that they would have Hong Kong for 100 years and then hand it back. They already had it in the plans that China would be the most favored nation trading status and out of the old books written at the time that say that right in it. Our whole lives and everything that happens is scripted by other people and what happens is China and third-world countries, or anyone who is designated as such, don’t have to start paying any of their loans back until the year 2005; and if they still claim that they can’t make it, it will postponed for another 25 years. However, all of these loans come from the Canadian government and the U.S. government who borrows the money from the World Bank, so in 25 years the children will have paid off those loans, you see, and that’s what they’re getting. We’re the workhorses for the world.

Jackie:  Yes, exactly. Paul Wolfowitz has been made head of the World Bank today. It was reported.

Alan:  The wolf is in charge of the bank.

Jackie:  The wolf is in charge. In China, Charlie Peter’s is our man in California whose whole main focus is on the emissions control, et cetera, et cetera and he said and sent me information on it that automobiles sent to China do not have to have all of the emission controls. In other words, they get to pollute because they’re a third-world country and there was one other thing that in China besides that – okay, never mind. If I don’t write it down while it’s in my mind it doesn’t stay. So in other words all of the pollution control et cetera and what they’re doing to what they call the developed nations all of those developing nations are just allowed to pollute like crazy.

Alan:  That’s what George said recently. He said we have to make a sacrifice with our petroleum industries and use less here because the developing countries need it more right now. This is your sharing of the wealth and all that stuff that we thought was a communist deal, but of course we all know it was all run by the bankers who set the whole thing up. We are all supposed to stop driving, I guess, in the future, because we are no longer needed. We’re not an industrial national anymore.

Jackie:  Yes. We have a call here. Hello. You’re on the air.

Allen:  Yes, this is Allen.

Jackie:  Hello Allen.You’ll have to speak up. I can’t hear you.

Allen:  Alan Watt was talking about Hong Kong and Britain 100 years ago has run things in the Orient. Can he say anything about the opening of Japan around 1854 and an infusion of Western technology into that area, building it all up to where it became to almost a world power and then right after World War I most of the Pacific Islands were given to Japan so they could fortify that. It’s like they were setting them up about 100 years ago in advance for World War II. This was 1854. By 1904, 1905 they were able to destroy the [inaudible-audio] – in 50 years they went like 800 years.

Jackie:  So you’d like Alan to comment on that?

Allen:  Yes.

Jackie:  You look like you’re doing your homework, Allen.

Allen:  I’ve been studying it for a long time. It’s like they decided around 1854 in advance and had everything set up just perfect; the islands were given to Japan after World War I; they had an infusion of technologies and everything was given to them. Another big question is why would America in 1854 be concerned with a tilly-willy little backward country like Japan?  I would say they wouldn’t have nothing to do with it; it had nothing to offer to America.

Jackie:  Right. We’ll have Alan comment on that. Before you do that, Alan, I know the other thing I wanted to say about China, I know I’ve said this before but it’s a reminder to our listeners, when you were mentioning Hong Kong that Britain would have it for 100 years and then give it back. I did not know that but you know I have this newspaper article, either New York Times or one of them, when they were giving it back to China and it literally said in there that the people in Hong Kong are preparing to meet their new masters. It was right in the newspaper, that exact language, Alan.

Alan:  Sure, and Britain had an official military handover to the communists.

Jackie:  Their new masters, the people.

Alan:  If you want to get back to the setting up of Japan, the bankers with the Kuhn Lobe & Co. had been financing the setup of Japan in the late 1800’s. Then if you read an excellent book, I think it was put out there to cover up the truth, although it had to use a lot of the truth simply because of declassified information from the U.S. government that’s available now about this. Bernard Baruch and a few other big bankers were approached by Japanese military at the beginning of the 1900’s and these Japanese were told to come over and see these particular men, because they were told, and it tells you in the book, they were told that these guys run and own America.

Jackie:  What guys run and own America?

Alan:  Bernard Baruch and the company of Kuhn Lobe & Company and a few other ones, well-known names, and the deal was Baruch said he would finance them. He would help them with technical data and training and so on, and shipbuilders, on the condition that they would attack Russia and that caused the final Russian war and that helped to bring on the chaos that started the heavy taxation and the war that helped to bring down the Czar. That was the intent of it and of course right through World War II these bankers were still funding the Japanese from New York, and it’s explained in “The Fugu Plan” by Marvin Tokeyer. He’s a Japanese rabbi actually and he goes through it and tells you what went on. It’s a fascinating story. It was all set up way in advance by the big bankers, none of whom were prosecuted for it. Another thing too is I also have old books from that period the early 1900’s and you’ll find that the emperor Hirohito of Japan, I’ve got the photographs of him being inducted into the Knights of the Garter of England by British Lords. I’ve got the actual photographs, so Hirohito was an Honored Knight of the Queen’s inside company.

Jackie:  Knighted?

Alan:  The Knight of the Garter is very close. In other words, his nobility was then joined with theirs. He was a very high Mason. That’s why he was never prosecuted either. Everything is rigged in advance, always, and the information generally is out there if you wanted to get it. As I say, the “The Fugu Plan” was put out there because – and it tells you in the book the declassified documents and the numbers that you can get from the American government that proves that these big bankers in the U.S. funded the Japanese military navy and so on, and sent them all the aid and training they needed to operate all their aircraft et cetera, and no one got punished for it.

Jackie:  This was during or before World War II?

Alan:  It started in the early 1900’s. The banks had already been funding them from the late 1880’s but the official delegation from Japan came over at the beginning of about 1900 to meet with Baruch and a few other ones and Mandell House et cetera.

Jackie:  Mandell House. Alan, do you know what’s confusing about this? That there must be people along the way who witnessed this because you’re saying that this is about early 1900’s, and in the Voices of History – now, this isn’t well known. It isn’t publicized. It isn’t part of the history that we’re given in school, so I have to believe that there was – no, I don’t have to believe. Let me back that off. It seems for example when you look at how they goaded Japan into bombing Pearl Harbor and the statement that FDR made and what’s his name’s diaries, Stimson or whatever his name was, the Secretary of War for state, and he said that what they said or FDR said is that our dilemma or our problem is how do we get them to attack first. It’s almost – there are people involved and then when you see the final ultimatum Cordell Hall gave to Japan, well it was all about trade and commerce, the whole thing. Therefore, even though they planned this so far back, they know what they’re going to accomplish, what they intended to accomplish, but they work out the real details as they go along, don’t they?

Alan:  Even the details, they try to figure out all the reactions and from whom and what sectors, and they already have the fronts ready to meet those organizations to sway them or defeat them or whatever.

Jackie:  So during that period of time and they had seized all of the Japanese assets or whatever from the bank and they had put an embargo on oil or whatever they needed and really pushed them into a corner, but somebody there in the government, or somebodies maybe, were aware of the plan; but the other people that are involved actually believed that, oh, this is the last straw, we have no choice, we have to do this. It’s just mind-boggling.

Alan:  Yes, but we always do the same thing.

Jackie:  Your voice is getting lower again. That ticks me off.

Alan:  We set up the enemy. We fund them. We train them. We equip them even. I think it was Rolls-Royce that gave the engines for the Japanese aircraft to Japan, you know the zero. There’s even people I know here, old guys, who remember trainloads of scrap in the 1930’s all heading to the coast where they were shipped off to Japan, that was common knowledge.

Jackie:  Yes, and meantime Lend-Lease Act sending hundreds of millions of dollars and airplanes and ships and all that over to the communist Soviet Union, while on the other hand they’re funding Japan. I didn’t know this. This is news to me about – and I’m really glad Allen called in tonight and brought this up because it’s just another leg of it, and here I go again, but the stuff I’m talking about I’m aware of because it’s in our website, the Lend-Lease Act, and how the American people and all of it was going over to the Soviet Union.  Major Jordan’s Diaries, that’s the little book that tells it all. When people look at the stuff that’s in there, if they take the time, there can be no question in anybody’s mind; except with all of the hours of conversation we’ve had, you’ll still get your mind blown away. I do.

Alan:  There’s nothing that happens major in your lifetime with your country that isn’t planned that way. Now that they’ve joined Britain to Europe they admit that they worked on it secretly, since 1948 they had offices set up to begin the process and they lied to the public right through until the bitter end. It’s the same deal that’s happening here when on the 23rd of March, George Bush and Prime Minister Martin of Canada and Vicente Fox of Mexico met together and signed the same agreements. It’s the same agreement and they talked about a Fortress America and how to reorganize the entire continent and this is the type of terminology they’re using.

Jackie:  Then the news reports that you played for us, they literally said that they had restructured the continent in an afternoon. These three guys, Alan.

Alan:  You see that’s the trick to it because the real guys who know what they’re doing are the bureaucrats and these are hereditary bureaucrats as well, mind you, in the federal government. You’ll never see a job open for a bureaucrat advertised anywhere. These are hereditary jobs and these people look down their noses at the average Joe in their little ivory towers.

Jackie:  And probably look down their noses at the elected officials who are nothing but pawns and puppets.

Alan:  Because those guys are lawyers who come in and suddenly they’re ministry of the environment or health or something. No, the bureaucrats know what they’re doing and the bureaucrats also liaise directly, every level of bureaucracy liaises directly with the United Nations because the UN has duplicate agencies of bureaucrats that deal with those things.

Jackie:  Yes and last night when Steve Jacobsen was on with us talking about the fictitious monetary system, I mentioned Jacques Attali and his book but the one thing I forgot to tell our listeners and remind our long time listeners that he was an adviser to Francois Mitterrand for 10 years. I don’t think I said that. He was trained at – what was it called in France? How do you pronounce it, the school?

Alan:  The Grand School.

Jackie:  Yes. The Grand School. He was trained there. He was a bureaucrat, wasn’t he?

Alan:  Oh yes. I mean this man was a top adviser. Advisers are more important than presidents because they get their orders from – they call the advisers The Grey Men. That’s what they call them.

Jackie:  The Grey Men. Not the Men in Black, The Grey Men.

Alan:  The Grey Men because they come to the ones that you see, the presidents, and they tell them what the schedule is and what’s to be done.

Jackie:  Yes, and what to think.

Alan:  And they liaise as well with the real bosses that are not elected and that’s what they do and of course they write the scripts for these guys, the presidents and so on, and they’re called The Grey Men, on the chessboard, basically.

Jackie:  Well, that makes sense and you know I think in pictures and when you talked about it and I was able to get the book, because, boy, it went out of print in a hurry, his book. Folks, if any of you are interested, you might still be able to get a copy if you do a search in there, Jacques Attali, and it’s called the new millennium?

Alan:  Just “Millennium.”

Jackie:  Winners and Losers–

Alan:  “Millennium,” subtitle: “Winners and Losers in the Coming World Order” – 1990.

Jackie:  1990 and it’s been out of print for a long time or at least not available, but I got this picture in my mind of them sitting in this meeting of all these national leaders and him leaning over and whispering in Jacques Attali’s ear. It’s like I can see it.

Alan:  Sure. It tells you in the beginning that no one saw the president without Attali’s permission, so Attali decided who the president would see and who he wouldn’t see and then he went straight from there to the United Nation. However, he said America will be the next land of boat people. He says once the borders are dismantled and America has basically run its course with the military might and it’s spent, he says there’ll be boats leaving America with people looking for work in the Far East. This is well known, well understood to the guys at the top, the whole plan.

Jackie:  And the danger if you would of the bureaucrats, but there’s really no danger because the elected officials are – it’s all put up anyway, but they’re behind the scenes and they’re not answerable to anybody and who’s going to write to a bureaucrat and say, “you quit telling Jacques Attali that!” Call your bureaucrat, Alan.

Alan:  The top advisers are not elected either and these are the guys–

Jackie:  That’s what I’m saying. They’re not elected.

Alan:  The guy that’s advising President Bush is David Frum. He’s one of the main advisers and David Frum is a Canadian.

Jackie:  He’s a Jew from Canada.

Alan:  His mother made a career as a spokeswoman for the CBC. She’s down there running for president.

Jackie:  Unfortunately we’re out of – he’s writing the president’s speeches too?

Alan:  And books for the right man.

Jackie:  And unfortunately our hour always go so fast. It’s gone and folks, we will be back with you tomorrow night. Thank you, Alan.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

May 23, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Monday and it is the 23rd of May in the year 2005 and I hope you had a lovely weekend, folks. Dog gone it, it got cold here again. We’ve had a couple of days in the 70s and one day that it went up to 80 and actually was down to 47 here yesterday. That’s not nice. Anyway, I’m glad you’re with us this evening and I hope you’ve been enjoying a little better weather than we have. I shouldn’t be complaining.

Alan Watt is with us tonight, and Alan, thanks for being here my dear.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Yes, thank you. I better set my record button here. I realized that I left that conference report in the kitchen and I wanted to bring that up tonight, but the conference report on that emergency spending bill, remember where they passed the national ID?  I don’t have to go get it. It doesn’t really matter. The main thing is I did get the copy of the conference report in the mail last Friday and everything that we’ve heard about this bill is true and one of the worst parts about it is it is wide open to change. The secretary, it says, the definition of the secretary is the Secretary of Homeland Defense and the secretary has been given the authority to make any changes in the requirements or any of the data that goes into this new identification card. And Alan, you know the thing is there as I was reading it and I told you this what I’ve realized is they’re saying that it has to be totally – all states have to be in compliance within three years. The states, from what I can gather, at least here in Pennsylvania, they’re pretty much there right now. They’ve been getting into compliance probably for the last 10, 12 years and so they call it federal recognition, this is how they’re doing it. See, they’re literally admitting that they cannot mandate to the states, but, my, my, if the state doesn’t comply and have this federal recognition identification card/driver’s license and/or they won’t be able to get on an airplane. They won’t be able to go into a federal building. What if you were ordered into court for something, into a federal court?

Alan:  Well, I’m sure then they’d force your thumbprints anyway and do all that kind of stuff. In fact they could use all the same recognition and take it all there and hand you your court pass, which would be the same thing.

Jackie:  What do you mean take all the recognition?

Alan:  If they want to – I mean this is going to be used everywhere and of course the courts themselves I’m sure will have the same equipment, not only to decode the cards, but also to make them up and to add to them, because everyone going through the court system will have to have that information then put into their card.

Jackie:  Oh, that they had some type of a legal action. Sure, everything will eventually be in here. One of things that nobody has mentioned this that I know of, but I’ll tell you the first thing that I thought about is the federal highways, Alan, because all the states – look at all the highways that the states have turned over to the federal government and what is that going to mean if you’re driving on a federal highway inside your own state and you get stopped. You don’t have a federal recognition ID card.

Alan:  It’s also going to be used down the road for the cashless society.

Jackie:  With the little pings in it representing money?

Alan:  Yes, it will be the only card you’ll need, and it’s a step-by-step process of course and they’ve been working on this for years. They tried to introduce the same cards in Britain in 1998, and of course in 1998 the cold war was over, nothing was happening and the public didn’t go for it. They’d said what’s the problem and so it fell flat, so we had 9/11 and Mr. Blair blaring off with all his lies and so now they’re going ahead and actually issuing them and they started last week issuing those cards in Britain.

Jackie:  The same ones?

Alan:  The same ones.

Jackie:  And they’ll be good for coming to the U.S. or to Canada?

Alan:  It’s really globalized. That would be passports and everything on one card and of course they definitely want to use it in conjunction with the cashless society because they talked about this years ago that they would do this and they’re actually doing it now.

Jackie:  Hey, Alan, that book you were telling me about, Sumner Welle’s “The Time for Decision,” that was written in 1944, right?

Alan:  It was published then. I think he began it early in World War II.

Jackie:  Some of the statements that you shared with me from that book back in 1944, you know the way they described it, I went in – I told you I went in and found it and I’ve got a place where I’m going to order it and they said that the president had sent him over to Europe, that this was the reason the book was written. That the president had sent him over to Europe to see if there was ever going to be an opportunity for peace.

Alan:  He had been an assistant secretary of state for the State Department so he had a long career in politics up until then and then he was transferred as you say as the top go-between for Europe and the U.S. There’s a map in the book where they actually separate Germany and he gives the reasons for the separation.

Jackie:  Now this was in 1944 before the war was over?

Alan:  Yes and as I say, judging from reading it, you can tell that he started it earlier in the war. Maybe at the very beginning in fact and so it was put out after. It was probably finished in ’43, I imagine. He had Germany partitioned–

Jackie:  The east and west?

Alan:  Yes. He gives the reasons for it he said–

Jackie:  Does he say that the east is going to be given to the communists?

Alan:  It was on the map but he doesn’t say so, but you know darn well – all the Soviet side is shaded on the map. He said the reason for it being that the youth have had years of indoctrination in Hitlerism and to leave them united would cause too much problem and so they’d have to have them separated with two different systems running it basically. You couldn’t have one country like Britain or the U.S. running both sides. You’d have to get a supposed enemy, which was Russia.

Jackie:  No, Alan, they were our allies.

Alan:  Back then, but they changed again their maps afterwards, and Uncle Joe went along with it, but they said that it would probably take just over 50 years before they would allow both halves to come together again, which is exactly what they did. Then, of course, he even goes into the building up of China, which he said was one of the best allies that they had and one of the best trading partners. Now China was mainly a third-world country and the only thing that Sumner Welles and his ancestors had done was to put opium into China because that’s where most of them made their money, their fortunes. In a sense, I guess they were a good business partner. Anyway, he said that the US would have to finance these countries and especially China to bring them up to a first-world status. Everything really was planned, I’m sure before World War II and these guys in the CFR (The Council on Foreign Relations), which is the American branch of The Royal Institute of International Affairs in Britain, they had the whole plan finished before the war was finished.

Jackie:  For the three wars?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Remember in 1906 Norman Dodd getting into the Carnegie minutes of their meetings, it was 1906 when they decided that they were going to have a war and a good place to start it would be in the Balkans because there was a lot of unrest there anyway and of course that’s where it was, wasn’t it?  Where the–

Alan:  The Arch Duke.

Jackie:  The Arch Duke was assassinated and it’s amazing to realize they waited until the U.S. Congress had passed the Federal Reserve Act because they wanted the American people to pay for it.

Alan:  You can’t have a war without borrowing and the ability to pay off the debt, so you need taxation. That’s standard in any big war. H.G. Wells wrote a book “The Shape of Things to Come” in I think it was in 1907 and he talked about the upcoming wars with Germany and he goes through this whole scenario. H.G. Wells got all of this material from The Royal Institute and Council on Foreign Relations professors who supply him with the data and he had to write stories around this data, you see, to encourage the public who read the books into this mode of thinking that we do need world government. Therefore, he wrote “The Shape of Things to Come” with a war with Germany, with a war in the air as well and he had three world wars. He said the third one will start in Basra, which is Iraq, and sure enough, here we have the third and final one; and then after that, he said there’ll be a scientific elite running the world (experts, all scientists), that’s psychology, psychiatry, physics, chemistry, everything, sociology. He also said that there would be a police of the air who would go around those places and countries who didn’t succumb and accept the authority, and they would gas them and spray stuff from the air; and we’re being sprayed now from the air. Nothing surprises me because it’s an old plan and these characters do work on their plans. They never give them up and when they’ve settled on a plan, even if it takes 100 years, they work towards it.

Jackie:  Yes, they sure are patient, aren’t they?

Alan:  Very patient. They are the builders you see. Freemasonry uses the builders or true brick masons. They use the terminology of the builders because they build society. That’s what freemasonry means. They shape society. They shape your thoughts, your culture and the changes in your culture; and just like when they built the cathedrals across Europe, the Comacines were brought in to do that.

Jackie:  The what?

Alan:  The Comacines. They had been initially a priesthood at the North of Italy around Lake Como and they were the ones, the experts in architecture and they planned the cathedrals and drew them up and it would take sometimes five or six generations of stonemasons to complete it. They use that terminology still today, that they build and shape society and they have puns on their words because they love to use – just like the ancient Egyptians had puns on words too, and of course the Bilderbergers and everyone has heard about them. Supposedly took their name after the first hotel where they held their first meeting in the Netherlands, but the Bilderbergers are the builders of the mountain. That’s what it means.

Jackie:  Builders of the mountain? What is the mountain?

Alan:  The mountain is a symbol of the their perfect society. It’s like a pyramid. That’s what a pyramid was. It was a perfectly shaped mountain. In other words, they used a natural mountain as a source; that is nature. They love nature, and how can you perfect nature? So they shaped it all geometrically, and of course the plan was to use that symbol to shape and perfect all of society and perfect that which is left imperfect, as they say, which is man himself; and as we see today, they’re well on their way. You turn on newscast shows today and most of what you’ll hear is experts giving you advice on how to do something or how to behave in a certain situation.

Jackie:  Or how to feel.

Alan:  Or how to feel, yes.

Jackie:  And what to think and say.

Alan:  It’s all social indoctrination.

Jackie:  They’re all squared. Is that right Alan?

Alan:  That’s right. A “perfect ashlar” as they say, you’ve been squared. A natural stone is roundish. There’s nothing true geometrical in nature, apart from perhaps snowflakes under a microscope. However, that’s what they plan to do, is to shape society. They’re the builders. They shape the minds of the public. They indoctrinate and that’s why you wear the little Masonic square hats when you graduate. You’ve been squared. We are in their system.

Jackie:  I remember when you were talking about that and then you mentioned a song “Another Brick in the Wall” or just a brick in the wall.

Alan:  That’s Pink Floyd.

Jackie:  Right after you talked about that, it’s been quite a while ago and maybe you would for our listeners – maybe you did explain it just now, but anyway right after you talked about that there was an article in the newspaper that Lilly found or else it was an AP on the radio. Remember you mentioned a hammer and the song “If I Had a Hammer” and they used the hammer to hammer out the – well, they were using all of those words in that newspaper article, Alan. Hammer, hammer, hammer, bricks and blocks et cetera. It was all there and it was within a couple of days after you talked about it and then they giggle probably.

Alan:  Oh, they do.

Jackie:  Who gives them their words, these journalists? Is it the editor when they write an article or something, then the editor changes the words?

Alan:  He can go in there and change them and delete certain passages that maybe they’ve gone overboard with.

Jackie:  I remember not too long ago reading something that a former journalist and he said that nothing – maybe it actually had to do with the Second World War, but nothing that they wrote ever really appeared as they wrote it.

Alan:  That’s correct. In fact, if you go through history, even recent history, you have these amazing quotations by famous people at the right times like when atomic bombs were tested and Oppenheimer supposedly made his famous statement, “I have become Prometheus the destroyer of worlds,” and of course he never said that at all, but they have these quotes ready to put in their mouths, you see.

Jackie:  What did they say he said?

Alan:  He said, I have become Prometheus. That’s the ancient God that stole fire from the heavens, intellect, and the destroyer of worlds; and of course he didn’t say that at all, but they always have these lines ready for the famous people that they present to us and we believe it generally. Even Winston Churchill had a whole staff dedicated to searching out the classics, the Greek mythology and so on, to get quotations and Shakespeare that he could use in his speeches. Then, of course, once he picked out or okayed the ones they picked for him, then he’d get his main scriptwriters to write into a script for him and he’d read it off over the radio with his Fireside Chat.

Jackie:  Him and FDR?

Alan:  Everything is a technique and the public must never know. They must believe the image that’s presented to them as it’s presented, never realizing that nothing that you see is happenstance. There’s no off-the-cuff remarks from any of them. They’re all scripted and that’s the world we live in, and Shakespeare said, “all the world’s a stage and we are but the players,” and of course that’s what these guys are. They’re playing to us and it’s a live theater audience and especially in wartime, it’s the theater of war, so they use that terminology.

Jackie:  Theater of war.

Alan:  H.G. Wells, who was a propagandist for MI6 who employed him, he’s the guy who was given the credit for calling it the first world war both the Great War, which is a Masonic term. Whenever you see anything GREAT, like Alexander the Great et cetera, they mean one from the mystery religions that started it and in control of it; and he also used the term “the war to end all wars,” which was the slogan they sold the public on so that the guys would sign up. They’re very good at propaganda.

Jackie:  What do they mean by that “the war to end all wars?”

Alan:  They hoped to get the Lion in, League of Nations or LON, which is another term for lion, they hoped to get that in as world government after World War I. They thought they slaughtered so many people that we’d all beg for peace; and while we were begging for peace, then they’d put on the conditions that we could not live as we had lived before. In other words, they were upgrading their system into a new mode of being, but of course the public didn’t quite go for it. They were used to the old system, which they hadn’t figured out wasn’t theirs either. It was just the system that they were used to.

Jackie:  What would it have meant – the League of Nations was originally called The League to Enforce Peace. What would the LEP mean?

Alan:  LEP is short for leopard, in a sense, so they like these little quips of things, so you have a lion on one side and a leopard on the other. If you go back to Nimrod, he’s got the checkerboard fur coat on, the ermine type fur that we see today on royalty. They use the black specked on top of the white fur. That’s a sign of royalty. They love these symbols. These are ancient symbols going all the way back to Babylon and no doubt before.

Jackie:  It occurred to me this evening as I told you I had a conversation with my friend in Colorado. We haven’t talked in a long time. They had a situation there and they wanted to talk to me before this because – well, actually her daughter did because her daughter finally woke up and sees what’s happening. Jerri and I haven’t spoken in a long time and she doesn’t have a shortwave so she hasn’t been listening to the broadcast. I said, Jerri, there’s just so much to catch up on because the first thing people have to understand is that we were all born into a huge grotesque lie and that everything we ever thought we knew is not and I don’t know that I have anything to say that will be of help because it’s like, okay, what kind of activity. Just for our listeners, they were having a meeting, the lady in Colorado beaten by an illegal alien. They like to call them undocumented immigrants, I think.

Alan:  You mean they’re not called insurgents?

Jackie:  No, they’re not insurgents. No. Probably the group that was meeting were called insurgents. But there were about 50 people and they had rented a restaurant, a bar and grill to have their meeting in and there was evidentially a local talk show host there that had gotten this thing together and the woman who had gotten beaten was at the mike talking to the people and suddenly she said a Latino ran out of the kitchen. I asked her who was he? What right did he have to do this anyway? Well, he was the kitchen manager is all, but he ran out of the kitchen, grabbed the mike and told them to pay up their bill and get the hell out of there and they didn’t make any fuss about it. They paid their bills as they left and in fact they talked to the manager of the restaurant and he wanted them to leave because they were talking about this situation. Then they went to the park and the next thing you know, the police were making them disband, and she said what Debbie finally understood is that our First Amendment rights are gone but what should we do? Okay. We sit here and talk about this stuff and I wonder if – I don’t want us to be in a position where it is rendering people in their minds hopelessness or helplessness. Do you understand what I’m saying, Alan?

Alan:  If they continue blaming the side effects of plans, they’ll get nowhere. They have to go to the source of the cause of it and of course it’s no secret that many years ago when they talked about uniting the whole continent and doing away with the borders and of course they did that officially on the 27th of March. Bush signed that agreement that we’re now one big Fortress America and within three to four years the borders will be gone.

Jackie:  Actually that newspaper article said they restructured a continent in an afternoon.

Alan:  Yes, he met with the prime minister of Canada and Mexico and signed the agreement.

Jackie:  According to this, Vicente Fox is in his last term. Of course, G.W. Bush is and they said that Paul Martin in Canada was having so many problems that it’s not likely that he’ll be in another term.

Alan:  It doesn’t matter who the person is because they don’t run the country. They don’t run them. In fact, H.G. Wells in 1918, 1919 wrote about that. He said that they had achieved their objective because now every bureaucracy and every nation would have a counterpart in the League of Nations and they could bypass their government and go straight to their fellow bureaucracy in the League of Nations.

Jackie:  We have a break coming up here and it will be just about a minute and a half or so. Would you remind our listeners about the books you have available?

Alan:  I go into detail with the types of systems that we’re living under and where they came from and it’s an eye opener I think for most people. [See www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com for ordering information.]  As far as the books to check up on what’s actually happening, I was thinking of putting a few into the end of the third edition so you can go and look up the histories of the system that we’re living under and see how far back it goes because it’s been here for an awful long time. People don’t realize that in 1941 Churchill and Roosevelt signed an agreement for the NATO pact basically (North Atlantic Treaty Organization), and in that treaty they had a system worked out and they signed it into the treaty that they would make a world system, a federation of the world based on the federation of the United States. Of course, if you notice, the U.S. is now completing its mission, the mission that I believe it was created to do, the NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM (New World Order), it’s actually finishing off the plan. It’s forcing what’s called democracy, which is a World Bank running the show with a central bank puppet there and a taxation system and the social system of the United States. They’re forcing it on the last Moslem countries which don’t have the central banking system. They don’t have income tax and they don’t have usury. It’s the last part of the function of the United States we’re seeing implemented right now.

Jackie:  I’m back here, Alan.

Alan:  As I was saying about the system and how old it is, the public has no idea that there’s one reality given to us throughout our lives and it comes through education and then reinforced for the rest of their life by the media and magazines to give you this matrix idea of the world you live in, but there’s always another one which actually runs the show and the public have no input into and it’s run by very elite and wealthy people.

Jackie:  This situation with immigration is part of the plan of course and that’s what America was meant to be, but of course they’re doing it in all of the developed English speaking countries, aren’t they, Alan?

Alan:  Yes and all of Europe too is coming into it.

Jackie:  That’s what I mean.

Alan:  It’s exactly the same process in the laws actually, because I watched a program on it recently. When a country joins the European Union, from the day that it’s declared it’s now in force; so when Bush and Fox and Martin met down in Waco where they signed the deal, that was the legal announcement of the unification. Then they said in Europe it takes three to four years before they completely take down the border and that’s what we’re going to have here. That’s why they want the ID cards out now. It’s an old plan and Jacques Attali wrote about it in 1990 and he was at the United Nations. He was the top adviser for Francois Mitterrand.  Francois Mitterrand who was the President of France believed he was a reincarnation of the pharaoh Ramses II and he got the glass pyramid outside the museum there in Paris and it had 666 panes of glass in it. They love these little messages and so on. Anyway, Jacques Attali did write the book “Millennium” in 1990 and he said that the next great immigration rush would be out of the United States, he said, after the countries of Latin America flood through the gates. He said initially it would be like the barbarian hordes that assaulted Rome, the vandals and the Goths and so on. He said there will be criminals too coming up, the gangs will come up and pillage and plunder. He said but eventually after a period of time, maybe 30 years, it will settle down a little bit, but by that time the industry will all be gone from the United States and the next boat people will be the U.S. citizens leaving the shores of the U.S. going abroad looking for work. This is an agenda from the top and we are blaming the side effects – the people that are coming in, who are being encouraged to come in through the agreements between Bush and Fox and all the other bureaucrats who really do the work. We have to keep our sights on who really is causing this to happen.

That’s who you should be throwing all your time and energy at are these people; demanding to know these people who have set up this system, who planned it and who are implementing it, because the government is complicit with it. They do nothing to stop it since it is the agenda and that’s the bewildering thing for most people who still live in the first matrix, which is the one they’ve given you, they can’t figure out why their own government is not stopping it; so they’ve got to seek and then demand that their own government do something about it, because at the moment it’s just causing tension between the incomers.

Jackie:  Here in the states it should be done at the local and state level.

Alan:  Yes, but you know that the big boys are all in the pockets of the bigger boys and it’s a Masonic system. In all of the Masonic books, including Albert Pike, he wrote about the international brotherhood of man and the borderless world to come, et cetera.

Jackie:  You know another thing I was wondering about the people that are from Mexico who are saying we are going to take back our country, our land. Well, it was stolen from them, Alan. It was rested from them by warfare and you said people get angry with those who are coming in, they are only being used to further this plan; but my question is, was this planned that long ago when they took the land and called it the U.S of A, California, Texas. What is it, Arizona and New Mexico, wasn’t that all Mexican territory?

Alan:  Yes, pretty well.

Jackie:  And did they plan that so that they could have this divisiveness and this riotness and chaos?

Alan:  What they did, this is how far back this goes – well, it’s actually older, but you can go back to say the Normans that came in and took over Europe and they created the nations of Europe. These Normans, all this royalty at the top of each country that they created as a nation, they then put borders round and then they taxed the public who lived within those borders; and so they’d always have threats of warfare and skirmishes between their relatives and the peasants would die and then demand peace and then pay more taxes. That’s how the whole system works. They created the borders to get us to be industrious and patriotic and you have to remember that Karl Marx was trained by some of the best bankers on the planet who have very, very old archives of history, as opposed to public libraries. Public libraries are for the public you see. These guys have archives of history, just like the Vatican, and Karl Marx talked about the global system. Before, he said, it can become global, we must create and push for nationalism. Nationalism is a phase on the road towards globalism because nationalism creates central governments and central governments then take over from all the little governments underneath them and they standardize the law across the land. There’s a law for everything and that’s the system they’ve all gone through. They’ve all been highly nationalized and they call them “wars of national liberation.” Now you go into the next phase which is the taking down of the borders, because while they were nationalizing you didn’t realize that the guys at the top of your country and every country were all in cahoots and making the same laws for your country as they were for every other country, so that when they took down the borders you’d all have exactly the same laws in place. It’s all ready for world government.

Jackie:  Including the ingredients in frozen pizza.

Alan:  Exactly, yes.

Jackie:  That is so insidious. I mean you talk about details, Alan.

Alan:  You have to realize even in the group at Yale University, the Skull and Bones, which George Bush and other ones went to, they have a place called the War Room. All of the high lodges have a War Room and the War Room is where they plan their strategy of war on the public and we don’t realize it; that even as we think we’re living in times of peace, these guys are actually making war on the public constantly and they change your morality. They change your culture through fads, through promotions and they can make you wear whatever they want you to wear to be trendy, but they design everything for you. Your thoughts, your music, how you’ll feel, what you’ll be guilty about or not guilty about – it’s all given to us. We are infinitely malleable as they say and infinitely adaptable.

Albert Pike also talked about the war, the ongoing war of the Great Work and how they were the shepherds and we were the sheep, you see. They make the plans and Pike also said, “We never start a premature revolution.”  In other words, they go over it like a battle plan, a cultural change or a social change, and they go through all the expected reactions from different types of people and they already have their plans of actions to go into place when these organizations will come against them. It’s an ongoing war you see; and while they’re doing that with the adults, they’ve already implemented a graduated system in kindergarten right through their schooling so that those children who go into kindergarten at two are already conditioned scientifically for the conditions and changes they will experience in their life.

Jackie:  Yes and I heard them talking about this in the school-to-work thing when I was a C-Span junky and over and over and over again because they were talking about the preschool, that they want every five year old child ready to enter kindergarten. In other words, get them pre-prepared and I know this is like you were talking about the morals and there was an item in the newspaper that somebody emailed to me. A kindergarten class where they were promoting homosexuality to these little children, the father of the little boy told the principal that he wanted to be informed when they were doing this so that he could opt his son out to get him and take him home. He came to the school and they wouldn’t let him go into the room evidentially and he went and got his little boy and they arrested this father.

Alan:  We are in compulsory indoctrination times and that’s what it is, compulsory indoctrination. They have so many young boys now drugged with Ritalin and so on, and of course now they’re going a step further and blaming bad genes, bad gene mixing, so they’re back into eugenics big time. It’s never gone away really and there’s more things to come because the system that they’re bringing in is a scientifically managed system. It doesn’t mean the sciences are true or correct, but as long as the ones who implement it believe so, they’re going to force it on the public, including annual psychological evaluations with the mandatory treatments to follow. We’re going into their beautiful utopia, which is a hell for the people, but if it worked it would be a utopia for the elite who rule the world. What they do not want is free thought. They’re doing all their best to stifle it and making it illegal to even ask questions on certain topics and when that happens you know you’re in trouble and trouble is coming. However, it also means that they’re starting to break when they start to use violence on people and try to forbid from using their own minds and inquire into anything they want to inquire to. There’s trouble when they have to come out with the batons and handcuffs, and so that’s their weak link. They show the brutes as they are and that does not gain public support. They’ll go through the same old techniques like the robots they are and they’ll try to bash it into the public eventually, but that will fail. That will fail and that is their weak link. They cannot bring on everything that they want to bring on simply by indoctrination through movies and plays and so on and documentaries. It comes to the time when they come out with the big stick and that’s when the public see them for what they are.

Jackie:  When they overstep their – when they get as blatant as they’ve become.

Alan:  They’ve been preparing an internal army for years. They’ve building it up for years for when they pull the plug on the economy, what’s left of it, and I think they’ll do it once the job over in the Middle East is over. That’s the last task that the U.S. has to perform before it then must succumb down into the system that it helped create, and so this is a very old plan and the U.S. was born for this. Even Benjamin Franklin said it and Jefferson. They both made the same statements about the United States: What is it to be? He said “a light for the world and he said I can envision a World Federation run by 12 wise men,” which is right out of the Kabbalah.  Jefferson said the same thing and that’s exactly what they signed in 1941 with the North Atlantic Treaty Pact, was that the United States system of a federation would be basically forced on every other country in the world. That’s how far back it goes.

Jackie:  You know the thing that amazed me to find out and I got it out of that history – anyway, where every single war that the U.S., that the American people have fought in, have been to get more territory. Meaning the islands and everything, everything and they said it right in the book. Again, it’s empire building, Alan.

Alan:  That’s why you have an Empire State and you have a big obelisk there called a skyscraper, which is the Empire State Building, but no one ever thinks well what empire are they talking about?

Jackie:  That’s right.

Alan:  It’s World Empire, of course it is, and back in the 1960’s the CFR and The Royal Institute of International Affairs (which has a branch in every British Commonwealth country, and in Canada it’s called the Canadian Institute for International Affairs), they held a meeting in London to discuss which country would promote the global culture for the coming years. They decided then, okay, that Hollywood primarily and America would promote the system of culture creation for the world, so they are the culture creators.

Jackie:  But we didn’t know that we were going to be controlled by those who call themselves Jews.

Alan:  Well, they’ve always been in that business.

Jackie:  Yes, they have, haven’t they?

Alan:  Of “entertainment,” as they call it, and it’s old as can be.

Jackie:  Well, it goes far beyond entertainment, Alan.

Alan:  All entertainment has always been this way. We don’t realize it. When a person is being given a lecture, for instance, if you’re sitting in a school you have the ability to accept what you hear or parts of what you hear and disregard others. That’s your mental censorship kicking in, your ability to think for yourself, but that guard is not up when you’re being entertained and so the ideas expressed in the movie or the play penetrate past your guard and go into your subconscious, and then you and your life will start to emulate in certain situations that you’ve seen portrayed. You will emulate what you saw and behave in the way that you saw the people behave in the movies and that’s easily done nowadays.

The Tavistock Institute where the main advisors for the Coronation Street Series, which began in the 1960’s and is still ongoing, and on that series back in the ’70’s they showed you the intermarriage, the troubles between incoming people from India and the mixing and so on, and the characters portrayed the parts well and when the real thing actually happened the public acted in the same way. They saw how the actors had handled the situations and they emulated what they saw. Everything that you see under the guise of entertainment is actually conditioning. Plato said that about 2,400 years ago. He said the traveling players that come to Greece it was mandatory that the whole city had to attend, each person, including the slaves, had to attend these shows at least once for every traveling troop because he says that’s where the culture is given to the people. That’s where the changes in the culture are given to the people and even he said the fashion industry – industry was the word he used, it gave them the fashion and he also talked about the music and how important it was to indoctrinate the young. This is an ancient technique that’s been used for thousands of years and a fantastic example of that was on the CBC news tonight and it was from Britain, where the store keepers are now banning teenagers who wear those pullover running tops with the hood on it.

Jackie:  They call them “hoodies.”

Alan:  Yes, and that’s where you get the word hoodlum. People don’t realize this is an old technique they brought back in fashion for today.

Jackie:  Why are they banning them?

Alan:  But of course through this whole thing they didn’t tell you–

Jackie:  But why are they banning them?

Alan:  Because they’re having so much crime with people putting up their hoods and going into stores so the camera can’t recognize their faces. They put their heads down and of course they’re standing there with the baggy pants with the crotch down to their knees and these sweatshirts on with a hood on it, and over the conversation you hear the rap music going. The jungle music and of course not once did they mention where the children all got this fashion from or where their ideas came from; and of course it’s much music. The BBC gives it to them. Therefore, the elite give you the problem and they come out with the solution, which is more laws and ways to behave and more checkpoints on the streets and so on. That’s so typical. They give you the problem. If they wanted to make ballerina costumes very trendy for masculine males, they’d do so. They could do it.

Jackie:  Yes they would and I just heard our one-minute warning so we’re going to have to wrap this up tonight. Thank you so much for being here with us. Alan, thank you so much.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

May 25, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday. It’s the end of our broadcast week here and is the 25th of May in the year 2005. Alan Watt is with us tonight. Alan, thanks for being here tonight.

Alan:  Yes, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  So what’s up?

Alan:  Well, I guess there’s a lot guess up because there’s so much going on that I think everyone’s concerned about the ID card coming out.

Jackie:  Well, I would hope everybody’s concerned, Alan.

Alan:  Some are; but I think the ones who are usually watching what’s happening, they understand it. The rest of the public of course are either oblivious to it and therefore they’ll accept it quite calmly as it comes along, as they would anything else. With the biometric scan, they really introduced that when they introduced the driving licenses in a lot of places. That was the same thing with the biometric reading of certain points in your face so the computer can then recognize anytime.

Jackie:  I think Georgia has already done it.

Alan:  Quite a lot of places have done that already.

Jackie:  What are they doing in Canada?

Alan:  The same thing. It’s the same here, the same everywhere.

Jackie:  I know, but are they requiring the biometrics?

Alan:  They have for the driving license for quite a few years now.

Jackie:  Okay, what are the biometrics? Are we talking fingerprints? Are we talking retina scans?

Alan:  No. The driving license up until now has just been the actual biometric photograph – the computerized photograph.

Jackie:  Oh, the digital thing?

Alan:  Yes. It does do certain geometrical patterns between points in your face so they can recognize it again once the computer’s broken it down, so that’s been here for quite a few years and in Britain as well as everywhere else.

Jackie:  How do they use facial recognition? I mean what’s the deal with these?

Alan:  Apart from the fact the computer literally breaks down your face into numbers really, it’s tiny little numbers, zeros and ones, binary code, they also take points between your cheekbones; the distance between your eyes. All of that thing is being measured as that photograph is being taken.

Jackie:  And what is the purpose for that?

Alan:  I think the purpose of it all was to get us all used to it, so that when you move into the next stage of the ID card itself it’s no big deal since you’ve already got that photograph already.

Jackie:  I know. But what I don’t understand is what’s the big deal measuring the distance between our eyes et cetera, et cetera?

Alan:  It’s a certain distance when you get your photograph taken. There’s a certain distance between you and the camera, which is computed into the whole thing, so that they can positively identify you even if you’ve had some facial features altered for instance.

Jackie:  Oh, I see.

Alan:  They can still measure between the eyes.

Jackie:  Let’s say if you had nose job or something or even a face-lift or something?

Alan:  Or a chin implant. They can still take the rest of what’s left and still positively say that’s still that person.

Jackie:  Do you think it’s true that we all have doubles?  Do you think there’s anybody else exactly like somebody else, exactly?

Alan:  There are some like that, absolutely, I know that for a fact.

Jackie:  Okay. How do you know that for a fact?

Alan:  I met someone who thought I was the other person and it was the oddest thing that ever happened.

Jackie:  Did he talk funny like you? I’m teasing.

Alan:  I don’t know but I’ll tell you, listen to this little story. I had come down from Inverness in Scotland down to Sterling this morning, that one morning, and had brought a girlfriend down with me. I got off in Sterling and a woman shouted my name and she said Alan and I said who is this woman? She obviously knows me and then she said Alan and then I still stood there with a puzzled expression and she said, Alan Watson. I thought well she’s so darn close she must obviously know me somehow and it turned out she was the next door neighbor of this guy called Alan Watson, who was married that lived next door to her and had just left that morning on a trip up to Inverness. I had just come down from Inverness.

Jackie:  And she saw you there with another woman.

Alan:  Yes and she would not believe – I mean she still wouldn’t believe me and she came right up to me too and she still thought I was this other guy.

Jackie:  And he did talk funny like you then?

Alan:  I guess he must have.

Jackie:  Well, he was from Scotland.

Alan:  That was weird, though, but that did happen. It was the oddest thing.

Jackie:  Yes, especially so close to home. Well, I was reading an item today about again this real ID and some woman wrote I think a doctor but they’re talking that this – see, I went through my files, Alan, and this was from last year in October and it had something to do with one of their intelligence bills they had passed. This article told about the national ID that buried in that that was passed last October, but that’s where all this biometrics and things. Because see, I haven’t seen anything about it in his Conference Report that I wrote. Well of course, the thing is they have given the Homeland Security the authority to add any requirements that he wants to and you know there’s something in this thing about building a wall or something in San Diego for illegal aliens to stop them. I don’t know what it’s all about but it’s something about building a barrier 17 miles or something and the Homeland Security Czar has total authority over this too; and in the process he has the right, the authority, to just bypass any laws that are in force whatsoever. There’s got to be a lot more to this than I am reading in this report.

Alan:  It is a totalitarian position this man holds. He has all rights to do everything he wants basically.

Jackie:  I want to remind our listeners of this. The New York Times featured, this was not long after 9/11 when they came out with the restructuring, you can read that in the Homeland Security section by the way. What do they call it? The 21st Century what – the plans for restructuring? Anyway, the New York Times did like a graph. Not a graph, a flowchart like if you’re doing a family tree. What do they call that?

Alan:  Genealogy.

Jackie:  Okay, but this is the U.S. government and what they showed the pecking order. They showed the president. Underneath the president they showed the Homeland Security Czar. Underneath that, a big line, there was FEMA and underneath FEMA there was every single department and office in the U.S. government. So the Homeland Security Czar would have authority over the FEMA director and of course the puppet president would do whatever he does. But the thing is, where they showed the U.S. Congress was up in the top left corner of this thing on the page and it wasn’t connected to any feature at all, not one part of the structure of the U.S. government.

Tell our listeners about your books.

Alan:  What I’ve put in these books, the first two are basically a sort of gestalt type of education into all that’s happening around you, which you don’t really see in a sense. You see them on an exoteric level. I show you the esoteric and it helps to get the reader to participate in what he’s reading because you’ll find that certain cogs in your brain start to mesh together and start making sense of what’s really going on. The third one goes into the religions, what was behind the religions. [See www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com for ordering information.]  You’ll find the same esoteric story is contained within every major religion known to the high priests in every major religion, whether it was Judaism, Brahmanism, whatever. It’s all the same at the top and of course the world has been run, as they say in the Kabbalah and other major books out there, for 6,000 years with the Great Work as they call it commencing around 4,000 BC. The Great Work was to take over the world and perfect that which was left imperfect, and by that, they mean perfecting wild nature into nature which they can control through science and ultimately restructuring man, rebuilding man and woman in the way that the scientists deem fit for their purpose and that’s what’s called the Great Work. Of course, as we all know with the talk of brain implants, which they do have ready to go, and cybernetics to create people for special jobs, various tasks and so on, and actually cloning thrown in there, you can see that that’s where they’ve been heading for all this time. The complete reshaping of the world in which we live through the understanding of nature or science and the rebuilding of human type specialized beings, which the elite will deem necessary for the elites’ survival.

If you go into Charles Galton Darwin’s book (the grandson of Charles Darwin), he wrote a book in the 1950’s called “The Next Million Years” and he said there was simply too many people from the working class types, the lower classes as he called them, and they wouldn’t be necessary in the future which science had already mapped out; so he said they had to start eliminating the lower gene pools which they didn’t need and the rest would be altered for specialized jobs to serve the elite. He himself of course believes he was one of them; and he said, we the elite will not be altered ourselves because we are steering the ship, we are guiding the ship and we need our survival capabilities in order to take the world where we want it to go, whereas the rest of the people, the workers, will not need that ability in their brain, that part of the brain that gives you your survival capabilities, because the State will be taking care of all of their problems for them. Of course in a socialized system, which is almost worldwide today, you’ll find that most of your problems – actually most of your decision making is already taken care of by governmental departments and what you’re left with is sort of a narrow avenue where you can still use self-will and make your own decisions. The rest of them are really made for you and in fact you’re born into their system where debt, the owing of debt, the paying of debt, all of this stuff has already been done by previous generations. According to Jefferson, and the Old Testament, anyone born into a debt is therefore a slave. Charles Galton Darwin in his book “The Next Million Years” actually said that. He said, “every type of system in this civilization has been based on slavery and we are simply making a more perfect form of slavery.” 

It isn’t that your system is changing. The fact is: it was never your system. You were simply born into a part of it you got used to and the true owners are simply upgrading their system to the next phase.  I go through this in my writings and I quote other authors too who were part of the same structure and what you find is that pretty well every major event in your lifetime that’s happened to any country in the world, you’ll find that these major events were planned long before you were born. They were discussed by very high-level groups of very wealthy people and you’re simply living the script. It’s no accident that today into this new millennium we kicked it off really with a completely different structure of totalitarianism coming in, in order to ram through the “scientific socialism” as they call it down our throats under the guise of terrorism.

Jackie:  I’m back here, Alan. Did you want to continue with your train of thought there?

Alan:  I pretty well came to it. I was telling the people that all the major things that are happening now and have been through their lifetime were actually planned.

[CALL]

Jackie:  Well, I’ll tell you what you said today that you would like to ask Alan, because you are not a stupid person as we both know, but you’ve been uninformed and you said that you would like for him to give you maybe – for the person who is just waking up. How did you put that, for the average Joe?

Tim:  For the blue-collar guy.

Jackie:  The blue-collar guy. You ask the question, Tim.

Tim:  I think my question was, Alan, what are the top five things that you would tell a regular old blue-collar person who’s just starting to wake up? What would you want them to know?

Jackie:  Okay, Tim, the way we’re set up here you have to listen off air, honey. Off the phone.

Tim:  I’m on internet because I couldn’t make out WWCR.

Jackie:  Okay cool. Well, you’ll be able to hear his answer. Check it and see.

Tim:  I’ll try tuning it up and see what happens.

Alan:  Well, the first thing he’s got to know is that if you’ve classified yourself as blue-collar, you’ve already put yourself in a category. Everyone puts themselves into a pre-made category in the system because the entire system is fake. There’s nothing natural in the system.

Jackie:  Would you repeat that again in case Tim wasn’t able to hear it yet?

Alan:  The first thing is not to put yourself into a category, whether it’s blue-collar, white-collar or whatever.

Jackie:  In other words, don’t label yourself.

Alan:  Yes, because that’s what they want you to do is have a certain impression of who you are and that’s all that you are and here you are in this level, and of course that keeps you submissive really to the system and to the ones who actually run the system and puts you in an inferior position. By rights, everyone who’s born technically is a sovereign unless they give it away and you give it away unknowingly through the labels that you allow to be put on yourself.

Jackie:  In other words, calling ourselves a democrat, a republican, a conservative, a liberal, a this, a that.

Alan:  Left right, whatever.

Jackie:  Left, right.

Alan:  Up, down.

Jackie:  Okay, thanks. That’s wonderful.

Alan:  That’s the first part of it. The second part is that when a person wakes up to the beginnings of it all, they think that the system that they’re used to has been taken over. In reality the system they were born in was created for them by the elite and it had a purpose to serve and the same elite are simply upgrading their system to the next part and you’re not comfortable with it because you’re just simply not used to it, because this system has been fake from the beginning. It’s all based on money and a form of slavery, which, with the use of money, is more hidden. It’s sophisticated, as Charles Galton Darwin said, but when you end up paying 40 percent or more of your earnings back in taxes openly and hidden taxes and property taxes, you are in fact simply a slave who is feeding himself, clothing himself and making sure he can get to work. Whereas in the old days they had slave masters who had to throw the clothes at you and once in a while a pair of shoes and so on. Therefore, it’s a more sophisticated form of slavery and we have to ask ourselves if that’s why we’re here, to serve?

Jackie:  In other words, the whole like American dream I could relate this to myself that it isn’t – the dream was given to us and the system that we’ve been living in, as you said, it’s a system that has – it’s a controlled system in other words?

Alan:  Totally.

Jackie:  Totally controlled in every aspect?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  In entertainment; in fashion; in religion; in education; and history and everything that we ever thought we knew.

Alan:  That’s right and it also alters what you think of as purpose—purpose in life—because really you’re confined to a very narrow channel, as far as what you think are free choices, because all the other choices really have been made for you before you were even born. The system is already in effect. The debt system is already there. You’re born into owing a debt that you did not incur and that’s how the slavery system works in the Old Testament. If the debtor who was in bondage to pay off a debt had children while he was still in debt, then those children then belonged to the slave master as well. That’s traditional. That is traditional and so as Jefferson said, “if a generation is born owing a debt incurred by a previous generation then those children are actually slaves.”  This is well understood by the ones at the top.

Jackie:  And you know that’s a tough pill to swallow and people who’ve listened to the broadcasts with you for a long time they’ve got it or they’re beginning to get it. They’re in a stage of getting it. We all are but I know for myself when we first were – well, when you and I talked for about six months before you even came on the air with us and you’ve been coming on the air off and on since then, but when I finally got it that everything that we thought we knew was a lie and all of this wonderful American dream. This is the greatest country in the world. We’re free. We have a Constitution et cetera, et cetera; it was tough, Alan, and I went through a period of disorientation that was incredible where everything looked foreign to me. It was almost as though I were in another world or something, and so I want to say this to Tim and to any of our listeners who are fairly new and if you don’t have, if you haven’t ordered, Alan’s books, I’ll tell you what folks, it will take you a long way into what we’ve been talking about over the past several years.

Alan:  It’s interesting too because the third thing you’ll find is that you go through a death, a form of dying, and you go through all the process of it when you find out that democracy is a big lie and that you really have no say in anything because everything has been decided by people you’ll never meet or even know of. You go through the same stages of depression and so on as any other death as you let go of the old and begin to see what’s really there, so that’s probably the third thing that happens.

The fourth thing to do, I would definitely say, is to get a hold of some old books by people like Bertrand Russell who worked for the establishment that planned the future because the world is just one big business plan.

Jackie:  And this would be the more recent past?

Alan:  Yes. He wrote a book to do with education and how the conditioning process would be worked on the minds of the young and in such a fashion that the parental input would be null and void because the indoctrination from kindergarten onwards would be introduced in a very scientific way and it would really take hold of in the minds of the children, so that when they went home at night, no matter what the parents said, the children would take the indoctrination from the school as a priori in their dealing with things. That book he put out back in the early 1900’s from his own experimental schools that he was given permission to set up in Britain is called “Education and the Good Life.” That was the title of it and the other one he wrote was “The Roads to Freedom,” and in both of those books he goes through the whole future. We’ve actually seen it occur since then and he was part of the planning committee for British Royalty and nobility. He’s Lord Bertrand Russell and he saw nothing wrong in the small elite, the intellectual elite and the scientific elite having the right to dominate the world and all the people in it.

Jackie:  What would the title of that book mean to him The Roads to Freedom“? Freedom from what?

Alan:  They’ve always been terrified of the masses. That’s why you have such incredible amounts of entertainment and hobbies and sports and so on to keep everyone occupied and to get rid of any angry tendencies that can be played out on a field. They’ve always been terrified of the people actually truly being awake and seeing what was really going on, so they’ve always been terrified of the masses and quite rightly so; because if the masses could understand what’s been happening to them and what is happening to them today, I wouldn’t like to be in the shoes of any of the elite.

Jackie:  And they wouldn’t like to be in their shoes either, would they?

Alan:  That’s correct and that’s why they’re spraying the skies. They’re killing off people. They’ve gone too far to turn back now. They can’t come out and admit what they’ve been doing, but the signs are all around us – apparently even the UN has come out and admitted that the leading cause of death now is bronchial problems and pneumonia. They know what they’re doing and they can’t come out on any media and tell you this now. They’ve gone too far. The sperm count in the West is down by 75 percent. In other words, men are three quarter sterile from what they were in 1950 and it’s about time the UN comes out next month and tells us the next statistic because they do it every year. Their plan is working and now of course with the next phase they plan – Bertrand Russell goes into this whole thing from the early 1900’s, that they would create different types of humans for specialized work and he goes into it in a book called “The Impact of Science on Society.”  He outlines all of this cybernetic type genetic manipulation and the need to eradicate again the part of your brain (for the masses, that is) which leads to your survival capabilities. It’s your survival capabilities they’re worried about. If they were working, you would know what’s happening to those around you and yourself.

Jackie:  What part of the brain are we talking about?

Alan:  Basically it’s the part where all your intuition is based.

Jackie:  Is that the right side?

Alan:  It connects with them but it really is – they call it the primitive part. I mean all animals should have that. All wild animals have it because they can sense what’s going on and it allows them to survive.

Jackie:  But you said one time that for example and I always forget whether it’s the left or right side. One side is logic, knowledge et cetera, and the other side is creativity, intuition. Which side is which?

Alan:  The right is emotion and so on.

Jackie:  The right is right. Well I could remember that then.

Alan:  But all parts of your brain are still connected to that part which is your basic survival center and that should connect with both so that both sides can go into action and save your life. However, if you notice today, people are so passive and nothing is bothering them really, most people, and they don’t even complain about the cost of gasoline; and when you see dictatorial measures taken to take away all rights and freedoms, really amongst the majority of the public, there’s no real problem with it. Well, that’s not natural you see. Plato went into that over 2,400 years ago. He said that we domesticate animals to eradicate their wildness and their survival capabilities. That’s what a domesticated animal is. It’s placid and tame and it doesn’t have the intuition of its impending doom, you might say, and of course that’s what he suggested they actually do to people: Breed them the same way and breed out the aggressive tendencies which would allow them to be free. This is well understood. It’s been discussed by many think tanks over the last 100 years or so and they’re actually implementing it through scientific methods.

Jackie:  I think it’s important for our newer listeners when you say okay this has been implemented over the past 100 years. It is just another phase of a system that has – but it takes itself in cycles, it seems, Alan.

Alan:  A long time ago the Egyptians had the diet of the slaves down to a very fine art. They knew exactly what to feed them, what not to feed them, to make them obedient, sluggish of thought but efficient enough to work. Not too fit and healthy so they could run off, so this has been tried by the Egyptians. The East India Company also used those techniques in its plantations. Malthus, who wrote the Treatise on population and population control, also wrote a book about feeding certain things to the people so they’d be sluggish of mind but very obedient.

Jackie:  And so did Charles Galton Darwin.

Alan:  The same thing. Of course, now we see that they’ve gone for the genetically modified food, which has taken over everything; and Monsanto, who is one of the biggest producers of the modified food, one of it’s subsidiary companies is called SEARLE Pharmaceuticals and they work with the parent company on the modified food. Now Searle Company is one of the main leaders in psychotropic drugs for the psychiatric industry.  What on earth are specialists who normally make drugs (which tranquilize people) working with the food producers for?  And I think the answer is pretty obvious to everybody.

Jackie:  Who was it that said, one of the people in the U.S. government, that they would spray–

Alan:  That was Rumsfeld.

Jackie:  Rumsfeld. That they would actually spray a Prozac-like aerosol in the air if there was another terrorist attack. Is that what he said?

Alan:  He was asked right after 9/11 and it was an American station, probably CNN, but they probably didn’t show it in the states, there was part of it where a reporter asked him how are you going to deal with another strike in another city where there can be widespread panic throughout the whole city?  And he said we have plenty of aerosolized Valium and Prozac which we can spray directly from the air which will calm the people down to such an extent they’ll be kept out of a panic situation.  When he said it, I thought well that’s probably what they’ve been doing all along in the spraying, because if I was one of them and I wanted to bring the world through this incredible transition, where amongst the few choices left you can at least your own mate to breed with and they want to stop even that from occurring, and so if I was going make the people of the future, I’d modify them just as much as they’ve modified the food. They call it “genetic enhancement”; if I was going to do all these massive changes, I would want the public to be tranquilized too. Of course, it makes perfect sense that’s what they’re doing.

Jackie:  We have number five to do before we go off the air.

Alan:  Well, number five is when and it comes to everyone is when you re-access yourself and who you are and where you stand in position with all those around you and you reshape all of your priorities, because they must obviously be re-categorized. Everyone I think goes through the same stages right up to there, where you have to decide what really is important to you as an individual with very limited choices really in life. Is it the material world that you’re totally attached to? Or is there something else inside of you which will push you off in another direction or stand up and say no when the time comes for you?  It’s a decision time in other words you will come to.  Most people will take the ID card, which is only a precursor to the chip which is implanted and it’s already there. They’ve admitted that. Most people will take all of this hoping they can hang on to those material things, their house, vehicles and all this stuff, and it’s a vain hope because these characters have said in all of their books that the world that they’re creating with human habitat areas, there will be no private property. There will be no private property. There will be no private transportation allowed. That’s on the UN website, by the way, under those habitat areas. Even though you think you’re trying to save what you have, you have to accept the fact that the people who are running this world, even if you take the card and then take the chip, you’re not going to be allowed to keep that stuff anyway.

Jackie:  You know what? I realized that when I got involved in this when it hit me and I said – my awakening was the first Iraq war when they had Poppy Bush talking about the New World Order, a gentler kinder world that we’re going to live in and the Iraq war which didn’t make sense at all to me why we were there. When it hit me it was just like a two-by-four across my head and what I realized and there were people because you know I owned a business and it was quite a successful business, a small business but it did very well, and the talk about me was and this was even in towns around Springfield that I got the echoes of what was being said. Well, I heard she’s really gone off the deep end and people – what I realized is if everybody was like me because the way I was then was – you know my girls were grown. I was doing my business and taking tap lessons and my oil painting and playing Trivial Pursuit on Friday nights, et cetera, et cetera, and I realized literally, like a light bulb, if everybody is like me, because I am a perfect example of the problem, that nobody is going to have anything. I won’t have a business. Nobody will have a business and that was – because I began to neglect my business. I just never went there anymore. I had people working for me, Alan, that I didn’t even know and by the time I sold it I sold it for a pittance of what it had been worth because I had neglected it so, but there wasn’t anything more important to me anymore, but I realize that.

The time does fly. We had a good half hour. I’m glad Tim called because the questions that he asked I think and your number five, re-assess ourselves. What is our purpose? Why are we here and who are we? Know thyself basically is what it is. Alan, thank you.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Thank you so much for being with us tonight, folks.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” (Solo)

May 30, 2005

Alan:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This isn’t Jackie. It’s Alan in case you’re wondering. I joked with Jackie earlier that maybe the spray is affecting everybody and we’re getting too much hormonal treatment coming from the skies, but no, it’s me Alan Watt. I’m standing in and today is the 30th of May 2005 and I think it’s the end of the Memorial Day in the United States of America.

In Canada we had our version of the same thing a couple of weeks ago and it was rather sad to see all the footage from World War I and II and then the Korean War; excerpts which had never been shown to the public before because it would have been “bad for morale” as they say. What you see are battlefields just full of bodies from the First World War lying in formation as they went over the trenches just dropping in line. One row after another and no one could ever persuade me that the generals did not know how to fight this war and so they just continued for two or three years sending regiment after regiment up into machine-gun fire. This was definitely a population reduction program, which really worked very, very well for them. Every town and village across the lengths and breadth of Britain has these monuments with thousands of names on them of people that were often your ancestors just wiped out at the age of 17 and 18.

My grandfather went to World War I at the age of 15. He lied to get in. It’s just incredible to watch the techniques used by the big powers to get us into battles and wars. They can lie to us so we think we know what we’re fighting for, but we never really do. It’s not until 50 years later or more that we find out what the real reasons of the wars were. What the real motives were? Who benefited from them?  And of course the history of warfare goes back for many, many thousands of years using the same techniques and when money was first introduced by the Minoans who lived in the Aegean Sea, the Minoans are the precursors of the Phoenicians and very probably they were the same people simply using different names down through time. The Minoans live in beautiful island in the Aegean Sea. We know that because some of the remains of their buildings are still there and they had every room hand-painted in fresco art, which is still beautiful today. These Minoans owned the shipping lines of their day, the caravan routes across the Middle East and elsewhere. They owned basically the whole economy of the Old Ancient World and they lived the life of luxury in the Aegean Islands.

They also had connection to Egypt and we know that from the frescos which we can see on the walls, where the young boys’ curls come down to the sides of their cheeks, which is a sign of youth, and the Egyptians used the same symbols for theirs and very probably they used the same artist to do their frescos. However, these Minoans left very little to us by knowledge except that apart from their luxurious lifestyles and the command of the trade routes, they also traded factory towns wherever they went. They would take over gradually through the introduction of money, which at that time was weighed and we can find the same weighing of money going back to Sumer. The same scales were used. The same weights and measures were used and these ancient merchant bankers literally were standardizing the weight and measure system across the Old Ancient World. When they took over a town or a village by the introduction of money and then the gradual lending of money, which led to interest, which then led to bankruptcy, they took over those little areas, put their own men in as tyrants and created factory towns, and then had everyone working producing things to pay off the debt; and this was going on 4,000 BC and probably longer.

We know for instance that the Egyptians traded with them. We also know that the people in the Levant areas traded with them and we know that they had an island of Bahrain, which that was their half way place where they brought in all of their goodies to sell. They could defend that little island and that way it was like a bank into itself, heavily defended. Even the Sumerian tablets show us the island they had of Bahrain was called “Dilmun,” heavily fortified and the people themselves in Sumer did not know where all the goods actually came from at that time, but it’s thought they were actually being brought over from somewhere in India.

We’re looking at a tremendous society in ancient times run by a small group of people who introduced money everywhere they went. They introduced debt systems wherever they went. They introduced gradually, through bankruptcy, slavery systems wherever they went and then we’re given to reason as to why they disappeared. Their main religious symbol as far as we know was a battle axe and it’s the battle axe of course we eventually see showing as the fasciae [fasces] of the Romans much, much later. However, in between that time and the Romans, they changed their name to Phoenicians and moved into that area which is now called the Holy Land and they ran their trading routes from that area.

We know that the Phoenicians did kill their first-born in times of trouble; they’d sacrifice their first-born children. Only the nobility did this and thousands and thousands of urns have been dug up, unearthed underneath the temples where they buried the remains of these burned children. It’s quite fascinating to see the same symbology eventually go into the Old Testament because there’s hints, lot of hints at old Jehovah demanding the first-born of every creature; and no matter how much it’s been scrubbed and polished, we can still get traces of that thing happening within what we think of as the Hebrew people.

However, getting back to the money situation, the money was the key to pretty well all of the world’s problems 5,000 BC and onwards. Without money you could not hire an army or train it or hold it and then send it off abroad to fight for maybe years, and so whoever created the money ruled the army. What we find is an ongoing succession of countries becoming empires by the introduction of money, living quite happily with slavery systems as part of their system and we see them attacking countries which did not use their money and would not allow the debt system to come in. They simply used countries they’d taken over to invade them and force it on the people and this went on as they built up empire after empire.

The Greek Empire, which preceded the Roman Empire, had a huge effect on the Ancient World. Alexander the Great – although he was Macedonian and the Macedonians, by the way, their language is directly descended from the Phoenician tongue. Alexander had been trained by Aristotle who’d been trained by Plato and then going back a whole bunch of trainers prior to that went back to Egypt, because these were the Egyptian mysteries which were being exported abroad. We find that Aristotle was sent out as a “fisher king” to train revolutionaries to take over more and more of the world. Everything that came out of Egypt always ended up with people (students) setting up elsewhere and causing revolutions. Revolutions being the key to the “Great Work,” as they called it, of taking over the world and making everything one.

Aristotle also was married to one of these international bankers of his day. His wife was the niece of one of the biggest international bankers who lived in a so-called area of the Holy Land. He trained Alexander to be a warrior. He trained him in the mysteries and he trained him to lead men and he also trained him that he was a god, because in all the mystery religions when you work through them you end up finding out, my God, you’re a god yourself. Alexander did what he was told and trained to do and he took over a good part of Asia and the Holy Land of course and Egypt as well, and he was heavily, heavily funded from the banks back in his own country and the banks of Greece. When he died he left a couple of his generals who started dynasties in the countries which had been taken over. Ptolemy ended up taking over Egypt and becoming a pharaoh, so the latter pharaohs were not Egyptian. They were actually Greek, right down to Cleopatra.

They had a tremendous import and export business in the Ancient World when the Greeks ran it and when eventually it became too hot for the Greeks, they simply (the elite) moved and created Rome. Even though we always think of the Romans as speaking the old Latin language, the elite of Rome through their entire empire era spoke Greek amongst themselves because they were descended from the elite of Greece who all claimed to be the descendents of gods. The Romans, of course, you’ll find in any history book that the Rome Elite did exactly the same because they were the same people and they even dedicated temples to themselves while alive and the people could go and worship their statue there as an actual deity, a god.

Constantine, even after he’d officially accepted Christianity, he himself was a member of the Mithraic cult, which was a mystery religion, and others; and he in his lifetime after 365 AD he also set up a temple where people could go and worship his likeness, his deity. Christianity did not put an end to the mystery religion. It was still working in the open in 365 AD and afterwards.

The obelisks that you see in Egypt were a symbol – each one was a symbol for some aristocracy member having reached a great height in the mystery religions and the obelisk was a phallic symbol of Apotheosis, attaining godhood, having the power of a god; and it was always shown with the virile obelisk symbol and that could even be used for a female. Cleopatra had one for her and other Egyptian queens prior to her. You’ll find these obelisks, these phallic symbols from Egypt, some of them were taken to Rome. One was set up in the circus. Constantine had his son go and fetch them, which is a great job in itself, and then of course in about the 1700’s the pope of that day had it moved to St. Peters Square outside of the Vatican.

France also had one which they put outside their parliament building. Another one was taken and sent to London where it stands on the banks of the Thames faced by the four major banks that rule Britain. Another one was taken from Egypt and ended up in the park outside New York. It’s still there and we wonder why would brand new countries send off to Egypt for obelisk symbols in an era of supposed Christianity; and what it tells you is that the mystery religion not only co-exists with Christianity, it claims to have created the religion of Christianity and it is behind it in fact. These obelisks were brought from a place which had an empire; a world empire of its time, Egypt, and placed around the world in other areas.

There was also one taken to Constantinople where Justinian ruled the Catholic Church at that time. The only new one which was built on any scale was the one to George Washington and we have to look at that very carefully because why in this supposed what we’re told is all these Christians fighting for their new country and no king but Jesus et cetera, et cetera and the propaganda we read coming out and afterwards of that era – why would they erect an obelisk to George Washington? And the reason of course is that George Washington was a member not only of the British Royal families, as you can find from Burk’s Peerage, the official Queen’s genealogists, but most of the big figures that we know of that signed the Declaration of Independence were terribly High Masons, freemasons of that era.

In the modern Masonic books they boast about the fact that they’ve been behind revolutions, that they gave us the national and international education system and they do the planning for the future. Now obviously these aren’t the little Masons on your street corner. These are the lower freemasons who think they know what they belong to, but in the words of Albert Pike, who was the high chutzpa of the Southern Jurisdiction, he was the Grand Master. He was actually called the Pope of Freemasonry. He said for the lower masons “it’s not necessary that they understand what the symbols mean. It’s only that they think they understand,” because freemasonry does not end at the 32nd and then the 33rd honorary degree. It goes way beyond that and there are much, much higher sects and then you get into the noble lineages, the knightly images, Aristocratic freemasonry where you now get into the real stuff of what’s really going on. You’ll find that these aristocracies and these nobilities can trace the lineages back for thousands and thousands of years and they only intermarry through the advice of the high priests who match them up genealogically with their wives so that they can maintain, as they say, “the perfect breeding.”

In the newspapers over the last few years, they’ve been quite honest especially in the British newspapers to inform us who these presidents are and their running mates too, and generally you’ll find that both of them are related to the royal families. John Kerry actually had more bloodline connections in the royal families of Europe than did George Bush and he has plenty enough. What we’re looking at here are families who have been involved in huge business and banking going back for many, many thousands of years, right down into ancient Greece and even Egypt.

When we look at Prince Charles, he made the famous statement that he not only goes back to the lineage of David but he goes back to the days of Noah. Now supposedly these people are quite sane, so the newspapers tell us, and yet they come out with these statements without any qualification to the public and we let it pass, even though they say it with a straight face; but when you really do the digging, you’ll find they’re telling the truth. At least to the fact that they can trace their lineages back for thousands and thousands of years.

If you go back to the Minoans, the earliest merchant bankers who owned the shipping lines, the ships themselves and the trading routes going all the way to China and then passing it on to the Phoenicians and then again the building up of the Grecian Empire, which then promoted it further and created a larger empire, then the Roman Empire which took over a good part of the world. What we’re seeing is a step-by-step enlargement of empires until eventually they’ve got to where they are now, which is the final step towards world empire. The people who are up there in charge of all this have descendancies going all the way back to all the ancient famous people of ancient history. That is not a coincidence. It’s impossible to be a coincidence. These people are literally specially bred through their mating up of their partners to do exactly what they’re doing.

If we jump even further back to Plato of Greece who lived around 2,350 years ago, Plato laid out the agenda for world empire in a book called “The Republic” and if we give some background on Plato, he like all of the aristocracy claimed direct descendancy from the gods. He was trained in the Grecian mysteries. He then went off to do his studies like most of them did in Egypt and then he left to go to the Middle East, which is basically Jerusalem, and from then on from studying the mysteries there he then went to India and then completed his course there and came back to Greece, where he did exactly what all those before him had done. He started his own mystery school up where he recruited the youth and he taught the youth the methods of governance, of how to change the world, the direction they were to change the world in, the reasons for it and sometimes to create revolutions. He also talked in “The Republic” of this perfect world state to come, where “The Guardian Class,” as he called it, which today we’d say were the aristocracy, most of whom we never hear about and see in public. These Guardian Classes have been here forever and Plato said that they would have complete and total rule over the perfect world state. He said they were specially bred for intellect. They were specially bred to have sensitivity – it was intellect but not softness, as he called it, meaning they would not be terribly forgiving; and then he likened it to the ways that animals have been bred already for thousands of years. He said, “we can breed domesticated animals with certain traits.”  And he mentioned the dogs, different variety of dogs. Some were bred with other dogs to create vicious types for guard dogs. Some were bred for higher intelligence like the sheep dogs and so on. He said we can do the same with people.

Now when he said that, you also get the clue that the Guardian Class that he’s talking about have also been bred for that position. They can be ruthless when required. They can use intelligence most certainly. They’re cunning but they have enough congeniality to get on with each other as the Guardian Class. When you realize that priests even in the Christian era took over from the old mystery religion boys when it came to mating up kings and queens and rulers by the same technique of going through their genealogies for certain traits, then they could pretty well, as Plato said, like a good well-bred dog, he said you could actually breed the qualities into a person and their offspring that you wanted. Therefore, if you got someone who was a bit too weak or too kind, you would not let them be king, so you would breed them again and then get the perfect one, the one who was aggressive. The perfect type of Alexander for instance who would go and enjoy killing and slaughtering and yet still have a fairly high intellect. This is the Guardian Class that he was talking about.

He then went on to say there’ll be a helper class around them who could be drawn from the lower classes, which he called “the ITS”, the lower classes in his day were simply called “the ITS.”  You were a non-person. You were a thing. You were classed amongst the lowest animals and he talked about the need to breed them the same way for specialized tasks and specialized functions. If you wanted people to be miners, you would breed them small and squat and you’d match them up to wives that were the same. You would make sure that they had good health. They were strong and robust and could withstand the dampness in the mines and the conditions and they actually did that. They bred people the same way as you’d breed animals for specific tasks by mating them up.

In the world to come that he talks about, he said eventually no one will be allowed to marry in the IT class, the lower classes, without specialized permission, instead we shall selectively breed the types we need. And isn’t it strange that here we are today where that science has been pushing so hard through genetic engineering to get to that very step?

I hear the bell and I believe we’re going to take a break for a minute. I’ll talk to you later after the break.

I think there is a truism that you can never take sponsorship from any company or corporation without some sort of, how do we say it – there’s a compromise always made and most of those on shortwave today are heavily financed and backed by companies who sell various products, generally fear-based products which you buy in emergencies and so on, and that is their outlet is a fear-based station or program which cries horror and terror all the time. It’s good for business and people could do that, but Jackie has decided not to because there are more listener questions involved here. Is it right to make people so afraid and then have them buy your products out of fear? We should really think about these things and Jackie doesn’t want to compromise what she has to say by bringing in a big partner.

If anyone wants to get in touch with me, I’m putting out three books which explain this ancient history right up to the present time. I explain how the societies have been involved in the creation of religions, all religions, and how they manage societies through mind control basically and that’s what religion was always used for, still is.

Now we get back to what we were saying there about these amazing long, long genealogical lineages going back, all the way back to Sumer – which tells us obviously that Sumer was not the beginnings of civilization. It simply resumed that type, the system (I call it) of civilization from a previous civilization. We know that 6,000 BC and before, there were other trading groups called the Harappans who traded all the way from India and all through the Middle East. These Harappans whose cities they’re still digging up lived very well. They were definitely traders, very wealthy. They had hot and cold running water going through their buildings. They lived better than many people of today live in fact and I think they simply transposed eventually into the Sumerian culture because when the Sumerians sprang up, they did not learn or evolve in their system. It was already established from all the different priesthoods who were also bureaucrats. They were specialized bureaucrats or priesthoods. They had a monied system and a weights and measures system. They had receipts which you could use at the local market and they’d bake it for you in clay in 15 minutes. They had a whole system of taxation, right to death taxes, in Sumer 5,000 BC. Nothing really has changed terribly in this system.

If we look at Charles Galton Darwin, who was the grandson of Charles Darwin, and this particular Darwin was a physicist working in England in the 1950’s, in his book that he put out called “The Next Million Years,” he goes through this system. He says quite openly and honestly, he said that every system in civilization—and that’s the key. They’re talking about their system, which is called “civilization”—every system has been based on a form of slavery and he said what we are creating now in the 1950’s is a more perfect form of slavery, where the average person will be unaware that they are actually a slave. This was to be done so gradually and carefully and through various taxations et cetera and the burgeoning of bureaucracies that the public would slowly step-by-step simply accept it. They would never really think about it and once it was in place it’s almost impossible for most people to actually go back and find out how all this started, it was so subtle and gradual. That’s what they’re talking about.

They took their basis for a slave system, in Charles Galton Darwin’s book, he took it from the serfdom of England. Now England being England doesn’t like to use the word slave so when the Normans took over in about 1266 they created a serfdom, which is a slave system for the inhabitants, and the serf was bought and sold with the land for hundreds of years afterwards. The serf technically owned nothing. The little farmhouse that he lived in was not his. It belonged to the lord, but he had to grow all of the lord’s wheat or corn and he would be left with about 60 percent—in non-intensive farming, remember, 60 percent of his labor, his corn, was kept to himself and to feed his family and his helpers; 40 percent went to the lord, which he generally sold most of.

Now when you work out the taxation system today, it’s quite amazing to find out that through direct taxation and hidden taxes the average Joe is paying 40 percent or more in taxes, so we are serfs and slaves, only we’re better at it. We’re self-maintained. The slave master doesn’t have to throw us clothes or shoes or hire thugs to watch us. They simply train us that we’re free and tell us that, and then we work ourselves and what’s left we actually feed ourselves and clothe ourselves and buy vehicles to get to work; plus all the licenses and insurance it takes to do that. He was quite right that we are living in a more sophisticated form of slavery.

When we jump back again in time to Plato, because Plato out of all the mystery philosophers wrote much more about this system that was to come, he said outside of the Guardian Class the helping class would be consisting mainly of a military; a hereditary military. He said towards the end we will bring females into the military and eventually these females will breed with the soldiers and they will have an intergenerational army, who will know nothing except what they’re taught in the military and they will be apart from civilization population. Of course, now we’re getting to the end of the whole thing and we see that happening today, where they’ve already vanquished the differences between male and female. The women are emulating the males and of course we’re finding more and more of these army people marrying each other and having offspring, who then become members of the military. They are training people and breeding them exactly the same way that Plato said they would.

Towards the end when they have the whole world system in place, Plato talked about the reductions of populations by various methods including disease to reduce the excess which would no longer be required. He said eventually they will have their utopia run by the Guardian Class who were technically a scientific elite and he called it “The Natural Aristocracy.”  The same term that you’ll find that Thomas Jefferson used because he was an illuminati himself. They believed that they being the well-educated scientific types had the right to dominate those less intelligent or uneducated and run the world through scientific means; and that also meant running the people the same way, forbidding certain ones to breed, perhaps sterilizing others, and this is almost where we are at today. Almost all of the program has been implemented and Plato said eventually those who will be left (he’s talking about the lower ITS, you might say) would simply live with a duty to serve the state. That will be your only function: a duty to serve the state.

From there we jump into the Rockefeller Foundation and all the other foundations and they’re pouring out propaganda about the New World Order and what it’s supposed to be and my goodness it’s along the line of Plato. No excess population. You will not be born unless they have a job to put you into and they also talk about the specialization through breeding for specialized tasks. Now we’re hearing that the future laborer is going to be a cyborg, part machine. They definitely will be unable to think for themselves because they will have chips installed which will be connected to regionalized computers, which will direct their work for them, and this is all pretty well out in the open for anyone who wants to look at it now. It’s called “social Darwinism.”  It’s the perfect society for the elite, where they don’t have to use media, novels and nice stories to persuade us to go along a certain direction. They simply will have the right to make us go along in the direction they want and leading eventually of the annihilation of individualism. Individualism is their great enemy, that’s why they want to destroy that part of the brain, as they’ve said in so many writings, that gives you your ability of being an individual, of even perceiving yourself amongst others as a distinct living entity. They want to destroy that through chemical means and various other means.

Arthur Koestler who worked for the United Nations on this very project of how to lobotomize that part of the brain which he called “primitive,” but it’s the part of the brain that gives you all of your individual survival capabilities. He said, “how do we destroy this to get world peace?” He said, “should we put drugs in their water which will attack that part of the brain? Should we put it in the drinking supply or their food supply or he said spray them from the air?” and my goodness, what do we find? They’re doing all of them.

Inoculations of course were also mentioned because inoculations, just like biological warfare, they can target specific parts of the brain and literally burn them out. Now Charles Galton Darwin in his book again, “The Next Million Years,” tells us that the elite themselves, the scientific elite, the natural aristocracy, will of course leave themselves unaffected. They will not be lobotomized he said because it will destroy the survival capabilities of anyone who is. Since they are the elite who will be guiding the planet he said we will need to retain all those faculties; and so those women and men who they have deemed to belong to the natural aristocracy, the super scientific elite, will remain unharmed. Of course, the food that they will be given won’t be genetically modified as it’s been given to everyone else today.

Now this might sound shocking to people and it is the bad news. Of course it is, because you have to look at the bad news to see what can be done about it, even for yourself, and that is the key to it. You can’t start off a movement to try and save the world. You’ll find most people don’t really care or they’re too far gone already with their inoculations and their lifestyle and their buying of the fast foods and so on and the cans of the modified stuff. You have to save yourself first of all so you can think more clearly and you must try and get those around you to do the same. People who can grow their own foods should be doing it, because when you see that Monsanto has a subsidiary company called Searle and Searle Company is a pharmaceutical company specializing for many, many years in psychotropic drugs for the psychiatric industry. Now when the two of them are working together to make your food, alarm bells should be going off and you say why would a company who specializes in various kinds of tranquilizers and anti-psychotic drugs be in bed with these other guys to make our food?

Now that’s a simple basic question that everyone should ask and they should really know the answer before they ask it because it’s obvious. Plants have grown drugs in the past. India thousands of years ago had a huge slave population who lived on Soma. The drug Soma produced by a plant. We’re talking really about opium. Plants are famous for creating certain drugs. Now when Monsanto spends years swapping genes from various, various species of animals, insects and even humans to put them into these modern plants, coupled with a psychiatric producing firm or drug producing firm, it’s rather obvious that these modified foods are also producing certain drugs and these drugs are affecting people, who are losing memory. More and more people are losing short-term memory, of all ages. Therefore you have to keep yourself alive and in peak condition as possible by eating natural foods, which you have to grow yourself or get from someone that you know has natural seed. There are some companies out there, which I’m sure Jackie will tell you about when she comes back on the show as to where you can send for companies which sell natural seed – the seed that has not been altered, as far as anyone knows.

Canada found out five years ago by accident that the Canadian population were the test rats for the modified food and we got the news from England. It turned out that the government of Canada had entered (and they’ve admitted this too) secret deals with Monsanto to test the modified stuff on the Canadians. Now the Canadians here have a national healthcare system so all your healthcare goes into central databases in Ottawa, so they can see immediately what health effects are causing on the public. It’s a great way of taking data you see on your experiment and since the government admitted finally under pressure that we’ve been eating this modified food for 10 years, and since governments always lie, you could probably stretch that to 20 years.

We see the effects around us. Those who are awake can see the sluggishness of the minds of Joe Average. It isn’t their fault. You can’t blame them. They’ve been inoculated with God knows what and we can’t find out actually what they have been inoculated with. They’re eating stuff that’s scientifically designed to slow them down mentally. They’re not reacting to anything really, such as the gas prices skyrocketing. You’re looking at a population that’s being tranquilized and then we find out all the spraying that’s going on is adding to that. We are in the middle of a war and it’s a war primarily of the mind. This is the last war. It’s a war for the mind and when the mind goes, any other war is gone. Forget it. The war for your spirit or anything else goes with it. Therefore I’d advise those who can start a regime of healthy eating for themselves by finding out who is selling organic foods, real organic foods, to go out and do it and start it because you cannot waste time on this. When your mind goes you go.

Now this has been a rush in this hour to put out so much, but the point was a system was developed and put into operation; a plan was hatched thousands of years ago to take over the world. The rabbis claim it was about 4 – 4,500 BC that this “great plan” came down, as they called it, and was set into motion. The Greeks said the same thing and therefore the reference to Prometheus is a symbol of this great light or plan coming down to the high initiates who had put it into motion; and they hoped to have it all in place by what they called the Age of Aquarius, which we are now entering into now. The Age of Aquarius they said for the people it would be a sign of peace, love and understanding. Of course, the elites knew it for its deeper meaning, which is: as Aquarius throws out the old water from his bowl, it’s the sea of life he’s talking about. It’s the gene pool and of course the old man gets thrown out as they bring in the new. That’s what it really means and we are living at that time when we’re about to embark upon the next phase, which can be introduced very easily, they’re ready to do it, of enhancing genes as they say and then giving us a completely cloned human being – who they will say is much superior intellectually and otherwise.

They are creating what the Christians would call “the anti-Christ” you might say, someone who believes he’s god-like and he certainly will have an incredible intelligence. He’ll be charming enough to fool most people and because the media will build them up to this stardom status, the public will believe that they should follow this guy, this guy has got all the answers, but there won’t be just one of them. There will be many of them and unfortunately the public generally fall for the massive propaganda when they create this type of “superman” you might call it, so be aware that this is all underway. World meetings have been held over many years about this very time that we’re living in and the strategies were all laid down. Thousands of think tanks work on them all the time and we are about to see it come into effect and we are about to take the brunt and we are the ones who have to be able to speak out and inform those who are uninformed as to what’s really going on; so it’s not all black or hopeless. There are people out there who do understand what must be said openly and we must also accept there will be a backlash against anyone who can put over their knowledge to those who have none. This will definitely come.

That’s almost where we have to conclude tonight, I think, because we’re up against the bell. Tomorrow night Jackie will be back with, you refreshed I’m sure, and we’ll take it from there. Thanks for listening tonight and once again my name is Alan Watt and I thank you very much for listening. Good night, folks.