Alan Watt & Jackie Patru – Sweet Liberty Radio – July 2005

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“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

July 6, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday. It is the 6th of July in the year 2005. It is end of our broadcast week, Monday through Wednesday now. It goes pretty fast. Last night I was reading to you from the third book that Alan Watt has written titled “Cutting Through” and Alan is with us tonight so maybe we can discuss some of what’s in the book. I have some questions myself about this situation, the Hapiru or Habiru, and maybe Alan can clear it up and I thought it would be a good idea to do that on the air because sometimes Alan and I have conversations off air and that I am so regretful that I wasn’t tape recording because you can never repeat it.

Jackie:  Okay. Let me tell you where my confusion is. The Habiru or Hapiru are spelled differently but they seem to have been – well, they talked about 1500 BC where they were written in the ancient accounts and obviously before that. That word back then meant the “dusty ones” because they were the caravaneers or whatever you call them, the merchants, the bankers, the gold and silver and money lenders, et cetera, the controllers. Okay. Would that be the priesthood, Alan?

Alan:  I think they were probably were not the actual priesthood, generally speaking. They would run a hierarchy though. There’s no doubt there would be some sort of coordination of a hierarchy because they all had exactly the same system regardless of which countries they had run into and which countries they were trading with. They were all using the same weights and measures wherever they went, which goes back to a common source and it was primarily silver they were introducing into those countries in those days. They had sources of silver and they also owned the mines in fact.

Jackie:  And those were what they referred to as the Habiru?

Alan:  Yes. The spelling is irrelevant. The Greeks wrote it one way and another bunch would write another way. It’s the phonetic pronunciation that’s important, so whether there’s an H there or not doesn’t matter.

Jackie:  Oh where you put the emphasis on which–

Alan:  Yes, because it was a term to describe the same and they were all Aramaic speaking people and they traded all the way from the Middle East into India and back again. In fact, Aramaic was the common trade language from basically the Aramean area right through the Middle East and across to India. That was the language of trade you might say was Aramaic.

Jackie:  Maybe you don’t know, but it seemed to me that they would have to have learned to speak the languages of the people with whom they traded.

Alan:  They did. Sometimes the banker ones, the higher orders of them, would settle in a city for a period of time.

Jackie:  To take over that city?

Alan:  They’d settle in the city and most of them settled outside the city. They were nomadic people. They were always nomadic by nature and hence they had no city of their own basically, most of the time anyway. They’d settle on the outskirts of the city and seemed to have a disdain for the city people and I have no doubt that the city people had a disdain for them too because their whole business was haggling – haggling over the price of things and the price of goods and so on, which isn’t a pleasant thing you know. However, that was their nature was to haggle for a good deal, but wherever they went they tried to introduce the silver monetary system, first by weighing and then eventually when coinage came along they introduced the coins.

Jackie:  Because those were weighed out perfectly already.

Alan:  It’s known too that these – they had different names for them. The Phoenicians basically were almost the seafaring branch of the same people, so the Phoenicians seem to be of the same people. It was almost a brotherhood really.

Jackie:  See, it’s really confusing to me.

Alan:  It isn’t so confusing because it’s like any brotherhood that’s in on a big scam. You have to have secrecy. You have to keep apart from the other people and you’d have to instill it into your followers to keep apart from other people so that they wouldn’t loose their mouths off and let the game away that they were into so many different scams.

Jackie:  In the Armana letters that you quote here, it says, “There was also a large and apparently increasing class of stateless and reputedly lawless people in Palestine and Syria to whom the appellation Apiru (or Habiru) was given. It has now become certain that they were a class of heterogenous (mixed races) ethnic origin…” Well, what were their races?

Alan:  That was a later – the term again seemed to be used again for another bunch who came along who joined them and these were a mercenary class which had originated from people who’d been cast out of tribes and cast out of cities. They were kicked out and so they became another branch of the brotherhood and that’s where centered themselves and they would lease themselves out for hire as mercenaries.

Jackie:  All right. How does that connect up with the people today that we know as Jews? That they call themselves Jews so that’s the only thing I know to call them.

Alan:  The ones today of course, they primarily come from the Khazarian lineage which was centered around the Black sea area and converted en masse to Judaism around the 5th or 6th century AD.

Jackie:  740 AD I think I read. I would have been around there.

Alan:  Most of them don’t have any lineage too, what was traditionally – in fact in Judaism didn’t appear until the fall of Babylon and that’s when a group of people came out of there with the Pharisees leading them and that’s when the first time in history that the term Jew or Judaic people was mentioned.

Jackie:  And they call them Jews but actually it would be more appropriate to call them Talmudists. I mean it’s a religion that binds them all.

Alan:  It was a religion that was born in Babylon. There’s no secret there because rabbis will tell you that there are two – one is a continuation of the other. In other words, the Judaic or the Exodus of leaving Babylon, the one that was written or compiled after that is really an extension of the part that was condensed inside Babylon; and when they come to points of doctrine, if there’s a conflict, the Babylonian Talmud gets precedence over the other.

Jackie:  Well okay. Where was the other – what do you mean the other?

Alan:  The other one was a continuation because they were still writing the Talmud when they came out and they continued it for a long time.

Jackie:  So it would basically be the Babylonian Talmud?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  And they would be Talmudists?

Alan:  Well, they would be, but the Pharisees themselves were a separate sect. In fact, they were a secret brotherhood, very small in fact, initially, 2,000 years ago, and they were only one small sect among many but they did have an awful lot of money, so they had power because of money. Part of the tradition at that time 2,000 years ago was to treat their fellow Jews they supposedly looked after no better than anyone else, because in a sense the Pharisaic tradition coming out of Babylon was the ancient Illuminati of its day.

Jackie:  And they weren’t even of the same race as the people that they took over there?

Alan:  Are you talking about the ones who went back recently?

Jackie:  No. When they came out and they went and they read the new law to the people, there is an account of that in the Old Testament and said the people wept because the people had already begun to intermingle.

Alan:  Also, one of them found a holy book and so they didn’t even know what their own laws were supposed to have been. I mean it’s such nonsense; it’s a fairy tale. You do understand this is a fairy tale?

Jackie:  Yes.

Alan:  It’s a foundation myth you see and in foundations myths they always make up a lot of things to try and justify something which never really happened and that’s why you have so many contradictions. However, in reality, Judaism came on the scene for the first time with anything at all to do with what we now know as the New Testament. It came on the scene only about 400 BC.

Jackie:  And a lot of what was involved in that, of course there were a lot of made up stories.

Alan:  They were all borrowed stories.

Jackie:  Exactly and they used some actual history to weave it in about and around their sect of people, the people that they lassoed into that “religion?”

Alan:  You’ve got to understand that in all times, more so back then, you had a military peasant class with a priesthood – no different from the Catholic Church up until a couple of hundred years ago, and it was quite easy for a bunch of priests to say, “hey, you used to belong to this land and your ancestors used to live here and here’s what your history is,” and it could be all brand new to them you see, because all they did was release a bunch of slaves out of Babylon and those slaves themselves became a–

Jackie:  Were those a mix of people also?

Alan:  There’s no doubt about it. How could you lose your language when you’ve been in captivity for less than 100 years?

Jackie:  What do you mean by that?

Alan:  Supposedly they went in speaking Hebraic and came out speaking Aramaic.

Jackie:  So what is the Hebrew language?

Alan:  The Hebrew language really is a much later compilation. In fact, it wasn’t until Maimonides in about the 12th century or so, who was the high-rabbi as they called him of his day, it wasn’t until he put the language together what they called properly. In other words, he filled in all the vowel points, which were not there. Without the vowels what they used to do was write the consonants and just a little pencil point where a vowel would be because there were so many dialects that different people would put down different vowels in the word. What Maimonides did was to officially put down into law basically what the vowels were so they’d all say the same words and pronounce them the same, but without those particular vowels it was just generally Aramaic. It wasn’t different from anything else.

Jackie:  Wasn’t it Maimonides that said or at least he was quoted as saying that even the best of Christians are worthy of death?

Alan:  He didn’t write so much on Christians. He wrote more so on Moslems because most of them lived in the Moslem countries in those days and they had to move from one to another due to warfare. What he did do was to give “Guidelines to the Perplexed.” That was the title of it. That’s where he laid down the rules of how to survive in other people’s countries.

Jackie: Is that the 600 and some Halakah or their laws?

Alan:  He wrote an awful lot of laws down, but he himself was not a – see, there’s different kinds of Judaism and that what people fail to realize. He himself did not believe in the supernatural stories of the Old Testament and other rabbis were against him because of that. He was a very much a rationalist in his way of approaching things. After he died there were actually fights in different Middle Eastern countries, fights to the death between rival groups of Jews – one supporting Maimonides and one supporting the traditional mystical type of rabbinical studies. Maimonides caused a lot of problems after he died because of the laws and so on he’d written.

Jackie:  So these people who became “Jews” because of this religion that this priesthood made up for them, they were of a mixed race also.What about the “12 Tribes”?  Was it 10 or 12 tribes?

Alan:  There was never any 12 Tribes of Israel.

Jackie:  Were there ever 10?

Alan:  No.

Jackie:  What were there?

Alan:  There was none. It’s a made-up history which never existed.

Jackie:  So the Benjamites and the–

Alan:  It’s all nonsense.

Jackie:  All of it?

Alan:  It’s all in that third book. It’s all zodiacal constellations. It’s not to do with real people.

Jackie:  Okay. What I was thinking that they used those names in the book where it has all the different names of each of the leaders of each of those tribes, Daniel and all of them, so those were made up names too? They did not exist as people?

Alan:  Not as people, no. In fact, most of them were titles to the sun. They were titles of the sun or titles of the godhead and Daniel is: “God judges.” It’s just like when the Christians give titles to Jehovah: Jehovahjireh and Jehovah-this and Jehovah-that. These are all titles.

Jackie:  There are those who say it is not Jehovah. It is Yahweh.

Alan:  Well, the mouth of madness is very big and you’ll find that there are many people whiling around in the whirlpool inside and that’s what religion is for. It’s like Christianity, it’s so ridiculous the way it’s gone. You’ve got one group almost falling out with another group because one stands on one leg and waves their arms in the air and one stands on the other. It’s ridiculous and that’s the mouth of madness.

Jackie:  All right. Let’s go back to the Khazars. We were talking one time. This was quite some time ago and you said I think they were there all the time. Those today that evidentially from the land of the Khazars, Khazaria, and they were a Turkic-Mongolian mix?

Alan:  That’s a bit wrong there.

Jackie:  Okay. What is it?

Alan:  It was an empire. It was an empire like the British Empire and just like the British Empire you would have English in the middle and then you’d have other tribes that were taken over from other cultures and colors even around them, all part of that empire and then all eventually called Khazarian. In fact in the Khazarian outer tribes, they were all used for different functions, but some of the outer tribes were even Moslem. The inner group were called the Royal Khazars and they were a nobility just like the nobility of Europe who only intermarried amongst themselves and the Royal Khazars were red-headed or blonde, blue-eyed or green-eyed and as I say they only intermarried amongst themselves, although they ran an empire of many different types of people who all eventually were called Jews when they adopted Judaism. They converted the whole country. A country about the size of Spain converted overnight to Judaism. Now when they disappeared–

Jackie:  Oh, excuse me. One of the things that you had said, these people that converted to Judaism, the tribe in Khazaria. You said I think they were there all the time and you said something about that they had migrated, that you believed or had read or whatever that they had migrated into that area.

Alan:  I have no doubt they did because they had symbols very similar to Egypt. The only religious symbols that they had were the obelisks. That was the only ones – by people, in fact by rabbis that went into Khazaria during that conversion period. The only symbol of religion that you noticed was the phallic symbol everywhere.

Jackie:  The obelisk?

Alan:  Yes, the obelisk. One of them said that they were basically a pantheistic people, meaning they worshiped nature, the earth, the “sciences” you might say and they didn’t have really a very mystical view of anything.

Jackie:  Do you think that these people if they did migrate into that area, do you think they were led there by leaders that knew that this was going to happen eventually in the future. In other words, they’re there waiting?

Alan:  Yes, I’d say so because the Khazars themselves, it’s an interesting lifestyle that they had. It resembled so closely the nobility of the Normans and all of the European aristocracy descended from the Normans who appeared in Europe at the same time as the nobility of the Khazars disappeared from Khazaria. The same traditions were held by the Normans where they would migrate throughout the year to different palaces of different cities, just like the Queen goes from Buckingham Palace up to this one or that one or whatever throughout the year. That was their tradition. However, they also controlled the trade routes, in fact, to get to China and so on, you’d have to go straight through their land and they lived on taxation. They taxed everyone who moved throughout their land, so that was one of the main incomes.

Jackie:  Weren’t they even taxing people who had to use the rivers?

Alan:  Yes and so they were heavily into taxation and the taxation system. They had a mounted nobility cavalry, advanced in its day, that had their own coats of arms and went into battle in certain formations so they were pretty well invincible in their day. Interestingly enough, as they disappeared from the land of Khazaria, a group of people appear in Normandy in France and call themselves Normans (or at least the historians called them Normans) and they had the same techniques with calvary, coats of arms and everything else and it’s thought that this was the nobility of the Khazars who came into Europe and took over the whole of Europe through force of arms. They had unlimited financing to hire mercenary groups and the wars of the Normans on even Britain took many, many years of full scale war, which tells you there was tremendous funding to keep armies in the fields for such a long time. Plus, they built wooden forts on the coastline of France, some of them a few acres in size, and they were prefabricated and they towed them up by parts over the channel to England and re-erected them. You were talking about something on the scale of the Second World War here. Unlimited financing to take over the whole of Europe and definitely with a strategy and a plan and I have no doubt at all that the Catholic Church was part of it, because along with the Normans came the Catholic Church and one basically stood up for the other.

Jackie:  Then once they installed the kings and the queens they just continued to interbreed with one another?

Alan:  Yes, right up to the present day.

Jackie:  Some of our listeners who may be newer that did not hear you say this, but it’s something that we have to keep in mind, is that these kings and queens were not even of the same nationality if you would of the people that they were ruling over.

Alan:  Exactly.

Jackie:  When you said that I thought of Catherine the Great of Russia. She was a German princess and she ruled over the Russians.

Alan:  Yes and you probably saw the movie “Braveheart,” did you?

Jackie:  Yes. Alan, in about 50 seconds we’re going to be taking our break so remember what you’re going to say about “Braveheart” and let’s pick it up on the other side.All right, ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to be back. We’ll be right back with Alan Watt so stay with us. We’re talking about the contents of the book here and it certainly is worth having. If you’ve got I and II this wraps a lot of it up, although I think Alan already has another in mind. If you don’t have I and II he suggests that you get them first so you’ll have more of a background on ancient history and this won’t seem so foreign to you. Before we talk about Mel Gibson, what was the movie?

Alan:  “Braveheart.“

Jackie:  Braveheart.” When I called you today to see if you would come on with us, of course we got into conversation and I wanted to remember the statement that you had made about people who want the truth. Will you repeat that as you mentioned it?

Alan:  People generally don’t want the truth. If they wanted the truth they’d have to be willing to forego everything they’d ever known, believed, been taught, instilled with, or whatever, and it’s like freefalling out of a plane. You’ve got to jump out of the plane and hope for the best and be willing to allow what’s going to happen to happen. Most people really are looking for something which will either augment that which they’ve already chosen to believe or they’re looking for some form of comfort.

Jackie:  Right and that’s what you said.

Alan:  That’s the problem.

Jackie:  The truth is not comfortable and it’s because it is always such a shock. When we’ve believed something right from the very time we were born and it was pounded and pounded and pounded into our heads and even the history that we were given. The only thing that I see that may have been true at least partially in more recent history are dates and names.

Alan:  That’s it. You know that’s how history is taught in school, is battles, places and names but you never get the why or who financed it. Who benefited from it? That’s all omitted.

Jackie:  It’s all memorization stuff. You have to be able to remember the presidents starting from the beginning to whatever your present is at that stage. I think every school child has to do that as though it means something.

Alan:  It’s indoctrination.

Jackie:  Well of course it is and not only that but it’s irrelevant because we know nothing about the presidents and what we do know about them or have been told about them are lies.

Alan:  They walked on water. They were superhuman and they walked on water and they never used the bathroom, just like the actors on TV.

Jackie:  You know when you hear people calling the church today apostate it’s as though all of that means it’s different and it’s not the “true church.” Whatever it was, ever was, a true church, it was all a fabrication of the priesthood.

Alan:  It was very cleverly contrived many thousands of years ago and they created a trinity. They always have trinities in the Mystery Religion and they created Judaism, Christianity and the Moslem all from the same source; and of course they used them all to fight each other, which enriched those behind it. They could also bring them all together at the end, one way or another; Christianity has joined voluntarily but the Moslems have been brought in by force.

Jackie:  The third way.

Alan:  Getting back to Braveheart, in the movie they portray Robert the Bruce as having the legal titlehood for taking over Scotland but he would never do it when Wallace was alive. Then it shows you at the very end of the movie the final battle with Bruce leading the people at the Battle of Bannockburn where they routed the English, but that was to unite the country under the guise of freeing the people.

Jackie:  To unite. What do you mean, Scotland?

Alan:  Scotland, and so what they did, again, this is the dialectic in action. The English are invading. Scotland has many, many clans all living free and independently and along comes this guy who will be king and after the battle he becomes king, he unifies the country, nationalizes it and introduces taxation for the first time in history. What he did is centralize power and it’s so cleverly done and Robert the Bruce was actually Robert de Bruce. He was a Norman knight. He wasn’t Scottish at all, so this nobility one way or another became the crowned heads of all of Europe.

Jackie:  William Wallace, was he a for-real character?

Alan:  Yes, he was.

Jackie:  I got real intrigued about William Wallace after I saw that and I wanted to know more about him and Chuck and I were down in Philly and we were at Borders books or one of the big ones and this particular bookstore is like three levels and all kinds of books and I found two books on William Wallace and one basically was when they made up their like poetry to tell a story.

Alan:  Sometimes they’ll say a note. A note is someone who’s died.

Jackie:  A node. That’s basically what it was. They said there was so very little in history able to tell about William Wallace. Now do you think that’s true or they don’t want people to know the truth or what?

Alan:  In Scotland, because Scotland was a colony of England you’ve got to remember, Scotland after winning its independence right up until James and James was a descendent of de Bruce, the Stewards were actually another name for the same bunch of de Bruce.

Jackie:  The Stewarts?

Alan:  They intermarried and intermarried, called themselves the Stewards of Scotland, meaning the keepers, so they changed from de Bruce to Steward which became Stewart as time went on, but James was a direct descendent from them with Norman nobility blood in him too, which doesn’t surprise me. Stewart

Jackie:  Over all these millennia this group has lasted but they aren’t always of the same – the leadership maintains their royal bloodlines but they were in the beginning part of that mixture of people?

Alan:  Within the group there’s two. There’s the ones who only interbred very closely and they’re the ones with the high noble stations in life et cetera.

Jackie:  Do you think there’s a strain? What I’m trying to get clear here, they refer to the Habiru as a mixture so they weren’t a pure bloodline of anything?

Alan:  No, they weren’t.

Jackie:  These people – we’ll talk about the royal Khazars, the Normans, was that a pure strain?

Alan:  As far as we can tell they go back for probably for about 1500 years or so that we can trace at keeping their own marriage lineages and interbreeding at the top.

Jackie:  What would be their race or nationality or whatever?

Alan:  It’s one that they haven’t given a name to, to the public. You see this entire world that we live in is a pyramid structure and it’s a pyramid structure which is called civilization, which is only possible with the introduction of their money, and the whole world revolves around their money. All school children are trained to get a job to work for their money. It’s all to do with the monied system which this small elite have controlled since the beginning of what we’re given as time.

Jackie:  Are you saying then, that if they did a DNA on let’s say Queen Elizabeth they’re going to find genes different than anybody else has?

Alan:  It would be very interesting to get a hold of it but I don’t think they’ll ever let it happen.

Jackie:  I mean wouldn’t that be what you’re inferring? If they’re of a bloodline that has–

Alan:  What you’ll definitely get are the same types of genes, traces of other genes. For instance, we know that the Bush’s are related to them. There are so many families. So many American presidents are related to them.

Jackie:  You said the Bush’s are just kind of little twigs on the tree though.

Alan:  They’re lower down. In fact, Kerry apparently was closer, he had more ties to the royalty than Bush did, but they only give you their own ones to vote for it seems to be.

Jackie:  So the people today that are known as Jews because they were born into this religion. I’m not talking about Sammy Davis, Jr. and Marilyn Monroe and those people who “convert” to that religion. But they are not supposed to intermarry. I guess that’s just to keep control of the tribe?

Alan:  The thing is, though, most of them who are not nobility, remember, have always intermarried. In fact, most books out in the bookstores will tell you that there’s an ongoing crisis within Judaism because so many of the men are marrying into gentile families. The same thing doesn’t hold quite as – and they always have done you see, so the lesser ones have always bred into other peoples and many have lost their descendancy by doing so and the rabbis have been screaming at them for hundreds of years to stop doing it and they’re still shouting at them to stop doing it.

Even Woody Allen was on a little program – he was with his wife and she’s gentile and his mother was there. The mother is home and the father was there and the mother came out with the usual thing you know, in front of this girl too, “It’s a pity you married a gentile because if we all do that then we’ll disappear,” and that’s the standard cry of the rabbis.

Jackie:  So these people that do object to the intermarrying actually believe that they’re of a special bloodline?

Alan:  They believe that, there’s no doubt about it. Many Jewish publications believe that they are. I mean they’re very boastful in promoting all the scientists in history or actors or whoever. They’re very boastful of their lineages and who’s come out of Judaism and they do boast that they are superior to other people. And I always think how ironical that it was inevitable that the clash in Germany would occur because here you have Adolph – not really Adolph, it was Himmler and the ones behind him who were really into this new religion, very, very New Age at the time, Theosophy really, of creating a Superman, a special superior breed; and here the people holding the reigns of the money power in Germany who already believed that they were the superior breed. There had to be a clash. There had to be a clash and maybe that’s the true saying that comes from their own Talmud, “For every action, there’s an equal and opposite reaction,” because you had two people claiming to be Supermen or special or superior living in the same country. Something had to happen and I think it’s sad when people actually believe the mythologies written by rabbis which pump them up into truly believing that they are superior. Now generally that would be called racism if anyone else said we’re superior to you because we’ve created so many musicians and so many scientists and so on and we’re genetically superior. Now if anyone said that that would be called hate speech.

Jackie:  They all go to the – no, I shouldn’t say all, but so many of them go to the high colleges. They get preferential treatment.

Alan:  There is another thing that the people have to understand and this is very true as well. The Western peoples were brought up to be employees. The education system was introduced all throughout Europe and Britain and America for the average people; it was to train employees to fill jobs. Whereas in Judaism, like Mohammedans, they’re the same, they will – the first generation will slave and scrimp and do without to put their children through the best schools you can find because they are well aware through their history that you don’t get anywhere by being an employee. You have to get to the top and they do sacrifice for their children, so do the Chinese. However, it’s one thing that was never ever instilled in the Western culture. The Western culture were definitely bred and raised and pushed towards being employees.

Jackie:  That makes all the sense in the world. What do you want to be when you grow up? Do you want to be a policeman? Do you want to be a nurse? But it is never what type of business are you going to start?

Alan:  No, it’s never, so people can decry the Arabs who are coming in, Chinese or Jews, but they do ensure their children go to the best schools and they do sacrifice a lot to make sure that they get through, so you can’t fault them for that. The fault lies in the fact that in the education system and the political system that’s emerged or was created in the West, the Western peoples were raised and bred to be workers to others.

Jackie:  To bee workers.

Alan:  That’s right, to bee – that’s the yellow and black school bus, the worker bee. There’s no doubt about it.

Jackie:  I wish I had a more clear understanding of this because it’s still very muddy in my head.

Alan:  You can’t go on preconceived ideas. You have to realize that in ancient times there were powers at work – very, very astute powers with tremendous communications between countries, which kept even the ancient world all working in a system. It wasn’t a haphazard system and they had knowledge of what they called previous ages. In other words, civilizations long before Sumer, long before 5,000 BC. There are powers at play in this world which have perfected the systems of deception prior to Sumer and I’ve no doubt they had much more advanced civilizations at one point according to their own histories of the Druids and the historian Tacitus who took some of the legends of the Druids and they survived previous ages by living inside mountains during floods and ice ages. The same story is told in Mt. Parnassus for the Greeks, and you’ll find the same thing in the Himalayas north of India and that’s where the high Brahmans say that they survived the last age. You’re talking about tremendous sciences held in the hands of the few who always will ensure that they survive, just as today there are underground bases all over the world stocked and prepared for the elite should any plague or warfare breakout again.

Jackie:  Okay, but then we’ll go back about 3,600 years, about the conflagration that Immanuel Velikovsky wrote about and it appears that the majority of the population of this earth was wiped out.

Alan:  It’s very possible a good proportion were, but I still think there were some people who survived on the surface of the planet and then one day many, many centuries later a few of these high priests came out of the mountains and started the whole ball rolling again. That’s what it seems to be. In fact the Armenians lived around Mt. Ararat and that’s where the fable of Noah’s Ark came from. It wasn’t a boat or an ark. It was a place of safety because Mt. Ararat is riddled with ancient tunnels where an elite came through bad times before.

Jackie:  Way up high in the mountain evidentially.

Alan:  Yes and deep within it. In fact, it’s so closely guarded even today by the armies around there.

Jackie:  How long ago was that supposed to have happened?

Alan:  The Egyptians, the Druids and the Brahmans all say that there was one which happened round about 4,000 – 5,000 BC, a big one. A big one and there have been minor ones and localized ones in between.

Jackie:  You’re talking the flood?

Alan:  Flood, ice age, something like that. I mean there’s no doubt that there have been many ice ages and even the scientists agree with that. They don’t generally agree with very much.

Jackie:  But they happened immediately?

Alan:  Yes and that’s the odd thing with ice ages as we’re given it, but there’s been many and of course what happens between ice ages is the ice melts, so you get to the point where as it’s melting the world gets warmer and something happens and it goes back to an ice age again.

Jackie:  What seemed to happen is that at least the account of the Velikovsky’s at that particular conflagration, something happened to the earth’s crust where what once was very, very warm suddenly was covered with ice and it had to have been something that fast to find those huge mastodons frozen solid in the ice but still had grass and plants, those tropical plants in their throat, in their teeth.

Alan:  That was Siberia. That area was the Equator at one time.

Jackie:  So something happened to the whole rotation and et cetera of planet earth?

Alan:  All you need is one good comet going close by to upset the gravitational paths and so on to upset the kilter of it.

Jackie:  And it wouldn’t be gravitational. It would be electromagnetic attraction.

Alan:  It’s all tied in to gravity. That would be enough to do it, or the only other possibly and this is a possibility. I don’t rule it out that there have been sciences here before, maybe millions of years ago, which were never entirely lost because the mammoths – the scientific team in 1905 went out to examine in Siberia. They found that one of these mastodons or hairy mammoths also had an erection, which meant it was instantly frozen, and it’s hard to imagine even with a comet or something to cause that kind of instantaneous freezing. Science can do it on a small scale that we know of – and we are at the bottom level of science from professorship down.

Jackie:  We’re out of time. We’re out of our hour. Okay, folks, we’re going to be back Monday. Hope you have a nice four days off and we’ll see you then.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

July 11, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Alan, are you there?

Alan:  Yes, I’m here.

Jackie:  Did you just hear a beep?

Alan:  I think you’re on though.

Jackie:  All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, good evening. Thanks for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Monday and the date is the 11th, Alan?

Alan:  It is, yes.

Jackie:  It is the 11th of July, folks, in the year 2005. I can usually remember the year, Alan.

Alan:  Yes. That’s a good sign.

Jackie:  Dates just absolutely totally escape me. We have Alan Watt with us tonight. I was out in the garden until 8:30 and certainly not prepared and Alan is always just so gracious and kindly agreed to come on with us and we didn’t really have anything set. Well, we don’t normally anyway, I guess, do we, Alan?

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  Except sometimes I say well I’d like to talk about that and what I’d like to talk about right now is you’re in northern Canada and your temperature today was 111 degrees.

Alan:  That’s right. 111 and it stayed there for hours and only started to cool down about an hour ago. It’s about 86 right now.

Jackie:  Well that’s a blessing.

Alan:  Emergency stations opened up in some cities called “cooling centers” where they’d rush people to cool down.

Jackie:  And you don’t know if they’re claiming that records have been set?

Alan:  They haven’t said anything so far, as far as I know.

Jackie:  Do you know if temperatures like this in the area where you are – I mean were they at one time common or normal, Alan?

Alan:  No. This is not normal at all and especially further north. I mean these temperatures should be close to the Equator but not this far north.

Jackie:  Yes, really and I would think that you would probably have at the most days in the 80s and probably cool evenings. That’s the way it used to be here. When we moved here 10 years ago we would have – it could be a very beautiful maybe 80-85 degrees go down to 55 at night and it’s beautiful sleeping weather, but to have 111 degrees. That’s like out in Dead Valley. Is that Death Valley?

Alan:  With humidity on top of that.

Jackie:  With humidity, yes. Is there a formula for figuring out, well I suppose there is. If the temperature is 110 and the humidity is like what 70 percent, figuring out the actual heat factor, Alan.

Alan:  Up here you’ve got so many lakes as well so the more heat you get the more evaporation into the air and it gets terribly, terribly humid, but this is ridiculous the way it is right now. Even if you’re sitting still, you’re soaked. They can do wonders these days with science.

Jackie:  Yes, they can, can’t they?

Alan:  They’re dosing the skies with all these chemicals. Then they cause the smog as they call it and then they blame the public for driving and then causing the smog, which is coming down from the aircraft above you. The idea is to get everybody off the road and the public will because they never look up at the sky. They’ll believe what they’re told and they’ll say by God it’s getting warmer and it certainly is some kind of smog so maybe we should stop driving.

Jackie:  And global warming and we have to be good little citizens and car-pool and give up our second car.

Alan:  Then eventually they’ll move us in towards the cities, the habitat areas, and that’s the agenda. How else do you get the public to move? You cause the problems and then you force them to move. That’s standard.

Jackie:  Think about it. It’s the same way they caused the environmental problem and I tell you it occurred to me, when we were going – I think I mentioned this before. When Chuck and I were going to the watershed meetings and they had the Army Corp of Engineers come out and this one woman brought a video to show us because we had so many questions and she wanted to answer our concerns. They showed actual photographs, movie film of the pollution that was coming out of the factories right directly into the rivers and she said our problem used to be point source pollution because we knew exactly where it was coming from, we got all of our wonderful laws passed that prohibits it, but now the problem is non-point source pollution. Well, you know what that is, Alan? It’s runoff from the farmers’ fields. And they’re starting to – well, I won’t say who this person is, but this person has two horses and about 40 acres for the horses to graze on and they’ve already been to visit this person to find out what they’re going to do with that damn horse manure that’s being dropped on the fields, Alan. That’s sick.

Alan:  Again, this is all the agenda and it’s going to get more and more ridiculous as they go along.

Jackie:  I’ll tell you one more thing that just springs to mind. I have a report here for an environmental working group out of Washington, D.C. and they discovered all kinds of toxic metals that were being put into the fertilizer that was sold to the farmers for their fields. I mean we’re talking cadmium, nickel, lead, all kinds of heavy metals et cetera, because there was no congressional oversight, okay. Well, the farmers, well guess what? Because there’s no congressional oversight they don’t have to put on the bags – there was arsenic in it and that kind of stuff. They don’t have to put on the bags that these ingredients are in the fertilizer, so the farmers put this fertilizer on the fields and then they get the farmers for polluting the streams with these toxic metals, Alan.

Alan:  Sure. Sure they do. Everything is a setup because everything is a plan and they must make the plan come to fruition by causing the problems and so they are responsible for it in the first place, just like they’re responsible for spraying the skies on a daily basis and at night as well. This stuff is coming down. It’s in the rainwater. It’s in the snow even in the wintertime and of course they can also cause this intense refraction of sunlight. Once you have the air saturated with metallic particles, billions and billions and trillions of tiny metallic particles, they act like mirrors you see and they reflect the light back and forth all the time so it simply doesn’t hit the earth or bounce back and go into outer space. It’s bouncing through all these mirrors and this is causing the warming effect and this has been noticed in previous years when they’ve been spraying heavily. They cause the problem, sure, and then they blame the public for causing it and unfortunately it works pretty well because the public never look up at the sky.

Jackie:  I know. My new neighbor going to be across the road, Donnie, was out brush-hogging tonight, stopped and we chatted a bit before I came and we happened to be standing out there and they happened to be chemtrailing us. I had talked to Donnie about this before but you could tell it just didn’t gel and I said look up there. There’s a chemtrail, Donnie, and he looked up and he said yep, ah-ha, and then there were two more over towards the west and so I just started talking to him about it. I got some emails about this and that was way back then, wasn’t it, Alan?

Alan:  It was.

Jackie:  And I was reading it and I just quite – I didn’t disbelieve it but I needed some proof and then I got calls from friends. A call from a friend in Ohio, her husband is a doctor. She said Jackie, I don’t know what’s going on in the skies but she said you ought to see they’ve been putting these lines down and they’re puffing up and she said everybody is sick and I said oh my, my. Well, I’m going to fax you or email you some information that I have. Three days later I get a call from a friend in Denver. She told me the same thing. She said they’ve been laying these trails north and south for half the day and then they turn them east and west. She said there’s a perfect checkerboard up there and she said everybody’s windows have this greasy-like film on it, car windows et cetera. So, Alan, I started talking about it and I am telling you I got calls from all over the country. All over the country and I had never seen them, but I was telling Donnie all this and so he was listening to me because it was my awakening so to speak and I said I was telling our listeners I was doing the broadcast at 6 p.m. at the time and whenever this happened it was the sun was beginning to set over there in the west and I could see it out the door from my studio and that night I was saying well I’ve never seen a chemtrail. See, we live in the country and I happened to look up and there was a perfect X in the sky, Alan, and I watched the plane putting the underline under the X. That was my first experience actually seeing one of these things. Although I have lots of photographs that listeners have sent.

Alan:  Yes, but Joe Average can see them for himself if he wants to look up once in a while because they’re doing it everywhere.

Jackie:  They don’t see it when they look up, Alan.No, they don’t. I told you this I believe that when – the children know what chemtrails are, my grandchildren, and Jody was telling me that she and Ashy and Ashy’s boyfriend were outside one day and Jody looked up and there they were, laying the chemtrails, and she said look up there Ash and Ash said oh my God. Mama would be having fits right now and her boyfriend said what. She said well look up there and he looked up and he said what and then she had to explain to him what the hell he was (excuse my language) what he was seeing, Alan. He looked up and said what.

Alan:  I’ve seen it even at a local fill-up station and right above the sky there was a mess of trails and they were still laying them and I just mentioned it to the guy who was filling the tank in my vehicle and he just casually glanced up and yeah, yeah. It didn’t penetrate.

Jackie:  No. Well see that’s what I saw happen with Donnie and I proceeded to go through this little story to him and then he went huh. I said just watch it Donnie. Watch it pop up. I stopped in a little plant store when I did grocery shopping last week and told the lady there about them, Alan.

Alan:  See, that’s what Zbigniew Brzezinski talked about in his books with “The Technetronic Era,” which is to do with mind control for the masses and he said that “shortly the public will be unable to think for themselves. Instead, they will be downloaded with their thoughts from the previous day’s news and that’s all they’ll be able to talk about.”  In other words, if the news does not mention something they themselves will dismiss it if they see it.

Jackie:  It doesn’t register, does it?

Alan:  No, because technically they’ve got to a stage where they don’t think for themselves. They expect the media is there to do their thinking for them and will tell them what they should think about or worry about or be concerned about, therefore if the media doesn’t mention the fact they’re being sprayed, and you do, then they will ignore what you say.

Jackie:  Yes, exactly.

Alan:  It has to come from the media.

Jackie:  It’s the same thing with people when you show them the poison warning on toothpaste.If you swallow more than enough to brush your teeth, seek medical help or call a poison center immediately. Keep away from children under six. We start teaching our children to brush their teeth when they get teeth, Alan, and nobody reads that, but you show it to them and they just go, oh, I didn’t know that. It’s poisoned.

Alan:  I know.

Jackie:  And you know what I was just wondering? We’ve talked about this on the air. I wonder if we have any listener listening to this broadcast that brushes their teeth with fluoride toothpaste and if they do, unless you’re a new listener and this is all new to you, then what would somebody do when they realize that they know this but they’re still doing it if they realize it?

Alan:  Well, it’s doublethink. I mean it’s doublethink if they know something is poisonous but because the ads are still on TV, the smiling faces and happy people, it confuses them. They can’t go all the way with the fact that it’s poisonous because they, the big THEY, those that look after us in a socialistic system, they obviously wouldn’t do that to us to harm us.

Jackie:  Do you think that any of our listeners think that big brother government is benevolent?

Alan:  Unfortunately, you do have some.

Jackie:  Really?

Alan:  They can’t quite get it because – see, the ordinary people cannot imagine evil on such a grand scale being committed upon the people by agendas which your own government participates in. I don’t think there’s been one politician in any Western country come out and publicly talked about the chemtrails overhead – not one.

Jackie:  Well of course they wouldn’t. Of course they wouldn’t.

Alan:  Therefore some people, unfortunately, because they don’t talk about it at all, the person who still thinks government is real becomes confused and thinks “if they don’t talk about it, maybe it’s nothing at all.”

Jackie:  What about the person that sees the poison on the toothpaste tube? It’s the same thing.

Alan:  They are pretty well in doublethink as they say. They’re able to hold two opposing opinions in their head at the same time about the same subject, which means at least on this subject they’re psychotic.

Jackie:  So in other words they could say I know that’s true but I really don’t believe it?

Alan:  Yes, and yet that same person if you said to them drink a pint of gasoline, they’d think you’re crazy and you say why don’t you drink the gasoline? Because it’s poison. We know that’s poison. What does it say here about the fluoride? Well, it says it’s poison. Are you going to keep using it? Oh yeah. That’s doublethink right there. They cannot believe those smiling faces or the authorities would allow ads on TV that would harm them. They truly believe that all business is there to be benevolent. They believe that and that’s a tragedy. Brzezinski said it. The people would give over their own ability to think and make decisions for themselves. He says they will give it over to experts and the authority and unfortunately people have been raised now to actually believe that that’s what the media is there for, it’s to do their thinking and to be their watchdog for them, and of course it never was and it certainly is not now.

Jackie:  Because you know it occurs to me people that believe that we have to go to Iraq because they have weapons of mass destruction. I know because I saw it on the news. Well now, people are beginning to realize that this was a hoax because guess what? They’ve announced it. The media itself has said there were no weapons of mass destruction.

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  And now they believe it, but I wonder how they feel about the war, even “Saddam Hussein was a tyrant. We had to go over there and take him out.”

Alan:  It was on the news here when even they had the inquires into it after it was all over and there was a panel there with George Bush on it and Colin Powell and a few others and George Bush said at the time, when he was asked the question, he said, “oh I never said that Saddam Hussein had anything to do with 9/11,” and that is true.

Jackie:  Did he really?

Alan:  They left it to the media to eventually infer that Saddam Hussein was connected with it and so he justified it by saying “well the world’s better off with Saddam Hussein there anyway.”  That was his justification for it.

Jackie:  What about Osama Bin Laden?

Alan:  Oh, he’s all forgotten about now.

Jackie:  Yes, well you know what? I got an email and of course, just because there’s photographs that looks like Osama Bin Laden doesn’t mean it’s true, but that it’s possible he’s not even alive today.

Alan:  It’s possible he never existed.

Jackie:  Well, that’s a possibility too, isn’t it? Although the Bin Laden family was very closely connected to the Bush’s.

Alan:  They’ve done documentaries for the CBC to show you that the Bush family and the Bin Laden family were actually business partners.

Jackie:  Yes, they were.

Alan:  In fact the family who got the rebuilding job of the Twin Towers after the first bombing was the Bin Laden Construction Group.

Jackie:  You’re kidding.

Alan:  No. And that was Daddy Bush that awarded them the contract.

Jackie:  Oh my God.

Alan:  So they’re all in bed together.

Jackie:  But you’re saying maybe – well, I think Osama Bin Laden probably did exist. He was a CIA asset, I think. I don’t know.

Alan:  He took the place of Goldstein in “1984.” You always have to have a bad guy hiding that you never catch who does all these terrible things and with all their high-tech technology and millions of cameras in London even–

Jackie:  Wait, wait. Okay, it took me a little bit to compute what you said, Goldstein in “1984.” I was wondering who the heck Goldstein was and I didn’t realize you were talking about the book, Orwell’s book, and Goldstein was the terrorist, wasn’t he?

Alan:  All you ever saw was him on video. You never actually saw the person, just a figure on the video that they told you was Goldstein that was behind all the world’s terror and it’s the same with this Bin Laden. They can’t find the guy – with all their equipment and millions of spies all over the world and the fact that they’ve infiltrated every group you could possibly imagine, in fact they sponsor most of them; and with all the cameras everywhere in London they couldn’t even stop these bombings. Now who’s kidding who?

Jackie:  There was a French newspaper that printed a story that Bin Laden had been in a hospital undergoing kidney dialysis–

Alan:  That’s right, he was.

Jackie:  And that the CIA had actually been to visit him, and so maybe he didn’t exist but I think there probably was somebody; but their whole point was they just threw his name out there like they did with what’s his name at Murrah Federal Building.

Alan:  The fact is the Bin Laden family are actually Arabic nobility, so for one to split off from the rest of his family and supposedly go in the opposite direction is almost impossible. However, they needed a Bin Laden for that time because they already had all those countries slated for attack back in the 1990’s in the New American Century Plan that was set up by Cheney and Bush and Wolfowitz and a whole bunch of them. They had that in their order that they wanted to attack Afghanistan first, then Iraq, then Iran, then Syria and that was all first done in 1992 then it was rewritten for the New American Century group, which is the group that Cheney and Wolfowitz belong to. They republished it in 1998 and sure enough, in 2001, they started the invasion right in that same sequence, so this was planned years ago to take over the Middle East.

Jackie:  Yes and that brings to mind Norman Dodd when he got into the records of the Carnegie Foundation, their minutes of their meetings. They planned – and it was probably planned well before, but maybe this was the finalization, their details of World War I. This was in 1906 and they said well we should probably start it in the Balkans because that’s always been a place of unrest. And I’ll be a son of a gun, but they didn’t start it until after 1914, wasn’t it?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  And I don’t know where I’ve read this, Alan. They didn’t want to do it, have that war until the Federal Reserve Act passed in the U.S. so the American people could pay for the war.

Alan:  That’s right. It was all done to bring in world government and that’s why they wanted the League of Nations set up to be the precursor of the UN but to bring in world government. H.G. Wells who worked for the British government as a propagandist, in fact the term he put out there, the propaganda term was “this is the war to end all wars,” and so that was the slogan that all the troops in the world went by and died by, thinking they were going to bring in a more better world, you see.

Jackie:  Oh, because they thought they would get their League of Nations in at that time. Woodrow Wilson was pushing that, wasn’t he?

Alan:  Yes. In fact, America funded most of the meetings.

Jackie:  And prior to the League of Nations they called it The League to Enforce Peace.

Alan:  That’s right. Before that, it was the Concert of Europe. They’ve tried this for a long time and after World War I, H.G. Wells wrote in “The Open Conspiracy” (this was a non-fictional work), he said not enough countries are willing to give up their sovereignty so we shall have to have another world war, which they did. Everything that happens, every major occurrence which happens is planned that way long in advance. Everything, just like the New American Century in the ’90’s planned to establish what they called the democratic system in all the Moslem countries. Nothing happens spontaneously. Nothing happens by itself. It’s all planned way ahead of time, including the finances which would be involved and even how much taxation they would need from the public to pay for it. All of this is planned in strategy.

Jackie:  It’s very clearly laid out in the Protocols back in the last three or four Protocols, Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. You talk about a controlled economy, Alan.

Alan:  This is a controlled economy.

Jackie:  They laid it out beautifully. We have to take a break. Ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be back with you in about a minute or a minute and a half with Alan Watt. Stay with us. Okay, we’re back. Alan has written his third book and it is available now. If you haven’t read I and II, you really should do that first because they really follow one another.

Folks, for those of you who are maybe fairly new listeners to try to imagine that everything that we have thought that we knew, everything we’ve been taught in history really happened, to find out that it’s all a lie is really quite unbelievable. Alan started actually coming on air with us around in December of ’98 and we did five weeks together. Alan pretty much blew our minds away with the ancient history and I kept telling our listeners I don’t know that what Alan is telling us is true because I have not done this research and I have not read the books and know the things that he’s telling us, so I kept in a sense warning our listeners not to take it in like it’s gospel truth but to consider it. Then I started getting mail from listeners – things, their copies of old books et cetera, et cetera and say, look, this is exactly what Alan has been telling us and finally Alan really didn’t have a choice. Well, he did and he made the right one of course, but to sit down and put this in writing, but it isn’t just Alan’s commentary. There are photocopies of ancient books, folks, that it gets to a point where you cannot deny it, as much as you would like to, and I can tell you for myself that there was a period of time where I felt that – in fact I said this to Alan one day. I said I feel like I’m in another world some place and nothing I see looks real to me and Alan says that’s a very good place to start and I know that that is to open our minds.

You know you can’t just wash out all that garbage that’s been in it but you can replace it. You can replace it with truth or as close as we can get to truth because let’s face it. If we aren’t there – if we haven’t been there ourselves we don’t actually know, but, Alan, will you forgive me for going on like this?

Alan:  Carry on.

Jackie:  Folks, I remember one time I challenged him, kind of. I do that every now and then, and I asked him how many books he had read and he said oh I don’t know, about 1,000 or maybe he said thousands, I don’t know. I said well how do you know that the books that you’ve read are truth and the one thing that he told me that I have noticed, folks, and I know that this is so, although I cannot prove it of course, but when you read enough and you read from varied authors and various histories and there’s a thread that runs through. As Alan said, you’re never going to get all the truth in one book, but when you put enough of it together there is a thread that runs through that you know that there is truth there. Getting back to his books, this is what he has done with books I, II, and III and book three is called “Cutting Through.”  Alan, I don’t remember which titles are the first two.

Alan:  It’s okay to call it I and II and III.

Jackie:  Yes, I, II and III because it is cutting through the BS, isn’t it?  As I said earlier if you don’t have I and II you would want to start there. If you have I and II you definitely will want to have number III.  [See www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com for ordering information.]

Anyway, back to what we were talking about. I had a thought just before we took our break. All the stuff we talk about sounds like such a downer sometimes, Alan, and remember I told you I’m reading novels, a series of books that I had read sometime past about ancient people. The one I’m on right now is about the Cahokia Illinois mound builders and they weave the story. There’s a huge bibliography at the end of it so there is probably some history interwoven into the novel but it made me think about this last night. Cahokia evidentially at that time was the huge distribution center for all of the other tribes that lived near by and they got this ruler in – this is of course a novel. The people paid tribute to Cahokia to keep trade going, the traders that came in, but anyway there were people who defied this just totally powerful thousands of man’s army and such and such and they would go to the villages or to where their clans stayed and they would say well where’s your tribute. Well, we can’t give it to you because our people will starve. They’ll die. Okay fine, we’ll kill you and then there were those that defied it and made me think about this, Alan.

Even though they plan it so beautifully and so perfectly, it doesn’t mean that we should sit back and do nothing and say oh well they’re so almighty powerful that there’s no sense in making a phone call or whatever somebody is led to do. There’s no sense in it. I have a feeling that every tiny little thing that each and every one of us do makes a difference and at least sort of derails it every now and then. So I guess that’s what I wanted to say, that we shouldn’t get to a point where we just creep and give up.

Alan:  Oh no. We do have to realize too that the motto that this system goes by, the ones who cause the problems, is that the end justifies the means, which means that they are totally ruthless and they will do whatever it takes – whatever it takes at all to achieve their objectives, so we have to realize what we’re dealing with.

Jackie:  Oh absolutely.

Alan:  It’s like Tony Blair in England. He was ready to go out. The people didn’t want him. Nobody wanted him. Even the Party didn’t want him.

Jackie:  Does this have anything to do with that memo that came forth?

Alan:  It’s way more than that. It’s all the lies he told about the weapons of mass destruction, the fuzzy photographs they used to say that they were rocket launchers, which turned out to be trailers for weather balloons that Britain had sold them. Lie after lie after lie, and the fact that none of his party wanted this. It was only him to go to war.

Jackie:  It’s become public now.

Alan:  And so they were ready to kick him out and the public this week were ready to have a mass demonstration and maybe even riots in the streets over the new ID card that they’ve been told they’re going to get; and lo and behold, right on cue, the so-called mysterious bombers bombed London, which put Tony Blair back up there on the grandstand: “Oh, I’m here to protect you. We’re doing all that we can. It’s these nasty Moslems that did this, a brand new cell that we didn’t even know existed,” which is the biggest joke of all you know and it happened right on cue. You couldn’t get better terrorists as friends for Tony Blair than they’ve got right now.

Jackie:  You couldn’t what?

Alan:  You couldn’t get better friends as terrorists. If they were real terrorists they would just leave it the way it’s going and Tony Blair would get kicked out–

Jackie:  Oh right. Okay.

Alan:  You see and his party as well and also the public would have their riots in the streets about the ID card; but, lo and behold, right on cue, when they needed him most, the mysterious Bin Laden’s group blows up a few buses and things and this is all out the window now, we’re back to war again.

Jackie:  Are they blaming this on Bin Laden?

Alan:  It was a brand new faction that they didn’t know existed. The famous MI6 that had infiltrators in every group on the whole planet didn’t know that this group existed and they have millions of cameras all over London but not one picked them up doing this.

Jackie:  Oh my.

Alan:  It’s so mysterious. We’re all amazed. So it’s a joke.

Jackie:  So now Tony Blair gets off the hook.

Alan:  And the public cannot bring themselves to imagine that there are evil people running their country that would go to these lengths, kill their own people to justify a warfare. That’s why this technique works. That’s why it works. They say the end justifies the means. To them, if they had to kill half a million people or a million people, they would do that if they thought it was worthwhile in their cause.

Jackie:  Yes they would. You know that brings us back to the spiritual nature of man and the fact that we don’t know from one day to the next what is going to happen, so therefore the most important thing that we can do and I think you said this in your own little – when I say little it wasn’t what you say is little, but you said it all comes down to the individual.

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  And I’m just of course expanding on it as I have a tendency to do, but that getting conscious of our spiritual nature. Learning to listen to the voice within us and I don’t mean like we hear voices but when we know that something we’re doing is wrong to stop it and it doesn’t matter even if it means your job, that you say no. I’m not going to do this. I’m not going in and stealing people’s children just so the Human Health and Human Services can get $37,000.

Alan:  It’s up to the individual because it’s coming down to the wire and you will find most people will go – in fact they’ve done polls already after this bombing in London. That shows you how ready they are for all of this. They’ve already done polls to see how many people will take the ID card now. Suddenly they claim anyway it’s now about 85 percent, which is about right actually because study after study for the last 100 years has found about 87 percent of public will always do what they’re told and so this bombing has been good for the ID card, which is “must be” in Masonic terminology. It was ready years ago but they must get it through now. There’s only about 3 percent at any time who are actually awake to everything and I mean by that fully awake. There are other people who are caught at different levels. They’re part in the system, part out of the system. They’re part believers still in the system, but only 3 percent are truly conscious at any one time and it will come down to what are you going to do when they say you’ve got to take this card; and the card is only the precursor to the chip.

Jackie:  We have a call here. Hello, you’re on the air.

Storm:  Yes, Alan. Are you there?

Jackie:  Yes. You can’t hear him but he can hear you.

Storm:  Okay, I’ve got you okay. He can hear me but I can’t hear him?

Jackie:  Yes, right.

Storm:  I’ve got you. Alan, it’s Storm. I’m a frequent caller of Jackie’s. He is talking there it sounds really heavy and interesting. I’m glad I caught you at the right time. First of all, Alan, I believe that Blair knew about that bomb. I believe that possibly I can’t prove it–

 

Jackie:  Storm, that’s exactly what he said.

Storm:  No. But I believe he did it. I believe he had something to do with it. In other words, I think him and Queen Elizabeth had something to do with that bombing.

Jackie:  They don’t dirty their hands, Storm.

Storm:  That doesn’t mean they don’t have something to do with it. They can give the orders and let somebody else do it. MI5–

Jackie:  You don’t understand, honey. There are people behind the scenes giving them orders.

Storm:  Yes, but that would be the Queen though if you’re talking about–

Jackie:  Okay, Storm.

Storm:  Oh, you don’t think the Queen has given Blair orders?

Jackie:  Alan, would you like to comment on this?

Alan:  The Queen doesn’t give any orders.

Jackie:  Okay. Well, Storm, hang up and Alan will comment on this.

Storm:  Okay.

Jackie:  Thanks.

Alan:  The Queen doesn’t even have to have anything to do with this. She knows the agenda and that’s all that she actually cares about.

Jackie:  She doesn’t have to know the dirty little details.

Alan:  Oh no.

Jackie:  They don’t dirty their hands.

Alan:  Blair is the same too. There is a worldwide agenda here. It’s not a handful of people. There are many people involved in it.

Jackie:  Blair is a puppet.

Alan:  Oh, absolutely. Mind you, I mean he must accomplish his mission too and therefore his head would probably roll if he doesn’t because he’s been the main cheerleader for this war from the beginning and he knows that too and there’s no one else really who’s so pro-war to take his place so he’s got to keep there. These bombings have helped him tremendously as I say to get back up there on center stage again. “I’m big daddy here to protect you.”

Jackie:  It doesn’t mean that Blair didn’t have an idea this was going to happen.

Alan:  I’m sure he would have forewarning.

Jackie:  Exactly.

Alan:  In fact, Netanyahu was over there for the G8 meeting over there; and of course in Masonic terminology, eight is as above so below, the number eight, the two circles joined together above and below, and that’s what it means. It also means money and power in Masonic terminology and G before 8 means “gate” so this is a gateway. There’s a whole language here which the public has no idea about but all Masons understand. They were meeting over in Britain at the time of this bombing. They were in Scotland but Benjamin Netanyahu was over there as well in London and he was told not to move from his room. They knew that these bombs were going to go off, so yes they knew. It was a must-be. They had to get the ball rolling once more. It had been stalled by public opinion and now of course they can rush ahead with their ID cards and of course they pinpointed Iran right away, which is next on the list that they drew up in the 1990’s. Afghanistan, then Iraq and so Iran’s next and they said they believe this new terrorist cell – this is about five minutes after the bombing – they believe this new terrorist cell has been kept and trained and are based in Iran.

Jackie:  Oh. They didn’t know who it was. Very mysterious. Never knew about them before.

Alan:  This is how all of this is done, you see.

Jackie:  Yes, it’s how it’s all done.

Alan:  It’s like the passport that fluttered down from the Twin Towers when this explosion of jet fuel went off and this immaculate passport fluttered down off one of the supposed terrorists, not a scratch mark anywhere and so that pinpointed who did it, you see.

Jackie:  Whoever you are, caller, turn your radio down.

Storm:  Yes, okay. I was going to say that Queen Elizabeth ordered the deaths of some people in Ireland a while ago when they were trying to get them out of Ireland we know this was like many years ago. But that’s not true. The Queen can give orders to murder and bump people off and it has happened before. There was also some evidence somewhere that she might have caused the person, the boyfriend that was going with Diana so I’m not talking about there but no the Queen–

Jackie:  Okay, okay. Storm, we’re almost out of time here.

Storm:  But she’s one of the top people of the illuminati of the world. TLC British petroleum. She meets at the Bilderberger meetings. She’s in with the top people with the Rockefellers. She’s one of the top people of the world. There’s no doubt about that.

Jackie:  Okay. Thanks Storm. Any comment, Alan?

Alan:  The Queen doesn’t have to deal with any of it at all. She knows the agenda. She knows the money side of it. She knows – she’s been told that this elite must always be in control of the people. The methods are irrelevant to her. It’s all done for her and as far as Lady Di goes, the reason she was suddenly called from Princess Diana to Lady Di by the press was because that’s a Masonic terminology that the lady was going to die.

Jackie:  Oh my God.

Alan:  That’s in your face.

Jackie:  Lady Di. Oh my God.

Alan:  See, people don’t even know what they read.

Jackie:  Well of course not, Alan. Well, I didn’t.

Alan:  You see, so it’s always in your face, so much so that the public never see it for themselves.

Jackie:  I think that Storm – well, he listens to a lot of other broadcasts and has a tendency to take in what he’s hearing as truth and I don’t think he just quite understands that she’s almost the same kind of puppet that George Bush is. She’s a figurehead.

Alan:  That’s a fact.

Jackie:  She’s a figurehead and the people that have controlled the kings and queens and pharaohs et cetera down through the ages have the same kind of control, so she knows the agenda. She lets it happen but I think that it would be good if people could just understand that the heads of nations are at there at the behest of the controllers.

Alan:  Absolutely. You know 200 BC there was a pharaoh in Egypt who found out that he was not the boss and he was surrounded by priests who decided who he would see and who he would not see and often he wouldn’t even know that people had come to talk to him.

Jackie:  Oh that was [Tuten] – what’s his name?

Alan:  Long before him, and he actually tried to jump out the window to meet people that he saw had been turned away by the priests to find out what they were there to see him for. The priests were always in control and it’s no different today. It doesn’t mean that these elite people are not part of certain bloodlines and they’re very pompous and they truly believe they are superior. They do believe they are superior, but they are not the ones that sit and plan all this. This is planned by strategical think thinks.

Jackie:  And they don’t give the orders.

Alan:  They don’t have to.

Jackie:  No, they don’t have to. We’re out of our hour and thank you for taking the time to be with us tonight, Alan.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure on a very hot night.

Jackie:  Well, keep cool. Have you got your fans going?

Alan:  Yes, I do.

Jackie:  Oh good. Well say hello to your guests for me.

Alan:  I will do.

Jackie:  Ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be back with you tomorrow night. Thanks for being here and thanks again, Alan. Good night.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Good night, folks.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

July 12, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for being here with us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Tuesday. It is the 12th of July in the year 2005 and I know that’s so because I looked at my calendar just before we came on the air. Alan is with us again tonight. Alan Watt, our wonderful friend. We’re going to – well, we’ll see what comes up. We never really plan what our conservation is going to be. However, we are going to talk about chemtrails tonight for one thing. Alan, thanks for being here again tonight.

Alan:  Yes, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  I’ve been spending so much time outside and there are things on my mind that I’ve wanted to talk about and I found a video that somebody sent me that Clifford Carnicom had done and I thought when I found it – this was just a couple of days ago. I really ought to get a hold of him and see if we can bring him on the air. I think he’s a credible person. Anyway, I pulled my email in tonight, which I haven’t done for about three days.

Anyway, I found this email, Alan, and this says “Chemtrails: A Meeting” and a Robert McNamara quote. This isn’t long and I think you would like to hear it. First, the quote is at the end of this but I want to do this first, a quote from Robert McNamara, October 2nd, 1979. He said:

            “There are only two possible ways that a world of 10 billion people…”

Now are there 10 billion people in this world?

Alan:  They can make the figure whatever they want.

Jackie:  Yes they can. Six billion for some reason was in my mind.

            “There are only two possible ways a world of 10 billion people can be averted. Either the current birthrate must come down more quickly or current death rates must go up. There is no other way. There are, of course, many ways in which the death rates can go up. In a thermonuclear age, wars can accomplish it very quickly and decisively. Famine and disease are nature’s ancient checks on population growth, and neither one has disappeared from the scene…. “To put it simply: Excessive population growth is the greatest single obstacle to the economic and social advancement of most of the societies in the developing world.”

Now I just want to remind our listeners who heard us do this, the math has been done taking the square miles of Texas if we figure six billion people, it seems, if I’m not mistaken, that a family of four – there’s so many square feet. In other words, the State of Texas can hold all of the people on this Earth if there are six billion people and it’s enough square footage that I think a family of four would have almost an acre. I might be wrong. Now that’s not piling people on top of each other in cities, Alan.

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  For God’s sake. Anyway, here’s the meeting. The meeting has already taken place and it took place on Friday, July 8th at 11:30 – excuse me. This is when this was sent, Friday July 8th, 2005. It says:

“A Meeting by Clifford E. Carnicom

A meeting has taken place recently between an investigative researcher and a well placed military source. The identity of both parties is to be protected. The source has intimate knowledge of at least one aspect of the aerosol operations, and asserts the following:

 

1. The operation is a joint project between the Pentagon and the pharmaceutical industry.
2. The Pentagon wishes to test biological diseases for war purposes on unsuspecting populations. It was stated that SARS is a failure as the expected rate of mortality was intended to be 80%.”

Jackie:  Alan, I don’t know if there ever was such a thing as SARS.

Alan:  I know that it killed less people than the common flu did.

Jackie:  Yes, there you go. It’s like the West Nile virus. We don’t know really if anybody ever – okay, let me go on here. These are the assertions of these people.

3. The pharmaceutical industry is making trillions on medications designed to treat both fatal and non-fatal diseases given to populations.
4. The bacteria and viruses are freeze-dried and then placed on fine filaments for release.

 

Jackie:  That would be from the chemtrails, right?Number 5. There’s 10 of these.

5.   The metals released along with the diseases heat up from the sun, creating…”

Jackie:  You were telling us about this last night, Alan.

“…creating a perfect environment for the bacteria and viruses to thrive in the air supply.
6.  Most countries being sprayed are unaware of the activities and they have not consented to the activities. He states that commercial aircraft flying are one of the delivery systems.”

Jackie:  Now do you believe that, Alan?

Alan:  Commercial, no.

Jackie:  I don’t either.

7.   Most of the “players” are old friends and business partners of the senior Bush.”

Jackie:  I don’t know about this.

8. The ultimate goal is the control of all populations through directed and accurate spraying of drugs, diseases, etc.
9. People who have tried to reveal the truth have been imprisoned and killed.”

Jackie:  I don’t know anything about that, do you?

Alan:  No.

“10.  This is the most dangerous and dark time that I have experienced in all of my years of serving this country.”

Jackie:  Now this was evidentially one of these – he said at the meeting it was an investigative researcher, which was probably Clifford Carnicom, and a well placed military source. Well you know what? I think Clifford Carnicom got conned.

Alan:  I’d say so. It’s probably Bo Gritz or somebody, yes.

Jackie:  He says:  “This information is relayed without qualification, as I am as I am knowledgeable in the level of integrity of the researcher that has made this information available to the public. There is both risk and restraint that has been exercised in the preparation of this statement.” I don’t know.

Alan:  No. It’s disinformation.

Jackie:  Yes, sounds like it to me, Alan.

Alan:  The whole thing began with the Open Skies Treaty and every country in the West signed on to this. It was never explained to the public what it really was, although they did legally put a few paragraphs here and there in the newspapers in Canada and it was so vague that you didn’t get much out of it except that foreign pilots were allowed to fly over Canadian and U.S. bases in various areas for observation purposes. However, when you look into it deeper and get copies of this Open Skies Treaty there are observers observing the observers. In other words, the observers are observing the ones that are spraying the public to make sure they’re doing it. A second blurb occurred about a year ago in the Canadian newspapers, just one more paragraph, saying that now foreign pilots could use domestic Air Force planes to do the same duties over Canadian skies under the Open Skies Treaty, so it’s under the Open Skies Treaty. The only countries that never signed it were China and a couple of the Far Eastern countries and Switzerland and they’re the only countries who are not being sprayed.

Jackie:  Would the jet planes then be carrying in their fuel?

Alan:  It could be in the fuel and it could be in extra tanks. They can do it either way.

Jackie:  But then the pilots that are flying these planes, they have to know that there’s an extra tank on it?

Alan:  They know what they’re doing because if they were commercial aircraft they wouldn’t be doing zigzag patterns across the skies.

Jackie:  Hell no they wouldn’t.

Alan:  Either that or it’s a very drunken pilot.

Jackie:  No, but I was thinking of the military planes.

Alan:  They know what they’re doing and I think it’s foreign pilots that will spray over Canada and the U.S. and the deal is that our pilots will be over there spraying their countries – kind of like a Dr. Strangelove policy, you see, and that makes perfect sense. No, it’s not commercial aircraft because you can actually see the commercial aircraft with the usual contrails disappearing about a foot after–

Jackie:  And they’re flying very, very high.

Alan:  Yes and in a straight line, whereas these guys do as you said checkerboard patterns. I’ve seen them do u-turns as well and the stuff that they lay down forms these odd-looking polymer clouds. Now we know that the polymer and that’s what gives the rainbow bursts around the sun towards sunset especially.

Jackie:  What is polymer?

Alan:  Polymer is basically forms of plastic particles from polyethylene. They found in the 1950’s that they could use this particular compound to bring viruses and bacteria down to a vast area and cover a large area and the polymer was the carrying agent. That was officially disclosed in the 1950’s and they were actually testing some areas in Britain with it then to see if it would carry viruses or bacterium down to the ground and even under a National Health System of course they could have all the data of how many people had asthma or bronchial attacks et cetera. All the testing has been done and they’re doing it for real now. I’m sure it will also weaken the immune system. We know for sure there’s aluminum oxide in it and barium and–

Jackie:  Now how do we know that for sure, Alan?

Alan:  It has been tested and I know some people who’ve recently done tests on them.

Jackie:  You know the people personally?

Alan:  Yes and the last test had 2 percent per liter contained for aluminum oxide alone.

Jackie:  And what is the aluminum oxide?

Alan:  Aluminum oxide does a few things. It can be used in conjunction with HAARP and this has been disclosed a long time ago that HAARP, which travels with electromagnetic pulsations through the atmosphere, can act more effectively when it has metallic surfaces. In other words, it makes it more conductive that the air becomes conductive like a circuit and again if your target happens to be the population–

Jackie:  When you say conductive are you taking about let’s say if there’s an electrical storm?

Alan:  No. They send out pulses. In fact they said with HAARP they can literally pulse out messages which the public would receive in their head, and this is old technology, and so the more conductive the subject is by either inhaling or consuming or whatever, we’re doing both, with aluminum oxide especially or any metallic substance. There’s also copper, by the way, traces found in this spray.

Jackie:  But more than the body can tolerate.

Alan:  Copper should not be in rainwater or snow.

Jackie:  Right. Because copper is one of the trace minerals that is found in the body, isn’t it?

Alan:  It is; but as I say, this is coming from rainwater. You’ve got copper in the sky.

Jackie:  In other words, more copper than the body needs or can handle?

Alan:  Yes, so they’re making each individual a receptor, which makes perfect sense, and they have admitted that they’ve tried HAARP out on large population areas. Maine was one of the first main places that they tried it out on and they found out that easiest thing they can do, the simplest thing they can do is to create alterations and mood either from elation or to anger and depression and they found a tremendous high suicide rate at that time. They found domesticated animals were going crazy and biting their owners and so alternations of moods are easily affected with HAARP and depending on the frequency they use they can also make you elated, as though you were drugged basically and happy.

Jackie:  Mood swings, in other words. Then these people who have the mood swings they get diagnosed as being bipolar and they get given drugs.

Alan:  This all falls in together but it also after time especially the aluminum oxide will help destroy your immune system and since they do – this is the regular television CBC news and BBC news, they keep having international conferences every month or so talking about the inevitable flu that’s going to come around the world and kill most of the people and they keep saying it’s just round the corner. It’s just round the corner and so they are lowering our resistance to fight off something which should not kill us, but if we’re weakened in our resistance it very well might, so this is deliberate planning to control and at the same time to start the culling process. There’s no doubt about it. That’s the function of it. Now again Zbigniew Brzezinski–

Jackie:  And it isn’t race specific?

Alan:  It doesn’t seem that this flu one is as far as we know. The BBC said that their scientific surveys on this new Avian flu and they’re only calling it the Avian flu because birds carry it apparently, geese and ducks et cetera, migrating birds, and they said they found two genes in this particular flu which do not occur in nature, which is another way of saying it’s man-made, you see, so it’s been altered to be deadly, obviously.

Jackie:  And besides that, there’s been Avian flus before that didn’t transfer over to humans.

Alan:  Absolutely, all dogs, cats and even mice have their own types of colds and flus which don’t transfer to humans and they always have. However, today it’s so simple to alter viruses and bacterium. It’s so simple to do and they are doing it and they have been doing it for a while. They’re going ahead with it obviously and they want to bring down the immune systems of the target areas, which of course is primarily the West. I know some people who were over in the Far East recently and as I say some of the countries like Brunei and China, they did not sign the Open Skies Treaty so they’re not being sprayed and when they were over there they didn’t see any of these chemtrails anywhere in the skies.

Jackie:  This was in China?

Alan:  Yes and in Brunei, quite near, Far East.

Jackie:  Think about this. The reports that I’ve received emails and like that it’s being done in the English speaking countries England, Canada the U.S.–

Alan:  Australia.

Jackie:  Australia, but France, Germany, actually European white nations that were once basically Europeans.

Alan:  There’s no doubt about it and it’s happening on a daily basis and also on a nightly basis.

Jackie:  You know I thought about this with all the immigration with all the different races that are being brought into our countries. They’re doing this specifically in these countries to the ones that I just mentioned. Well, you still have the Japanese, but Japan basically has only Japanese and China basically has only Chinese and India and all of those that are swarming over here, they’re dispensable so they will be victims of this stuff the same way that all of we will, or all of us I guess would be more grammatically correct, and yet, Alan, it appears to be the white basically European people that are being done in.

Alan:  I’d say so. I think the bee, the busy bee, the white person, has almost fulfilled his task and they don’t need him anymore. We still have a few qualities which can be utilized against the system–

Jackie:  Yes, dangerous to them.

Alan:  We’re very good at retaliating if we understand why we’re retaliating and of course they don’t want that particular type around.

Jackie:  I think about this very often sometimes especially when I question whether continuing the broadcast makes a difference and I remember a long time ago that you said when we were talking about the Federal Reserve System, the monetary system. You said if enough people wake up to it, it’s going to collapse of itself; and that stays in my mind that statement you made and then I think to myself, if nothing else, the information that people get from the Sweet Liberty broadcast is at least imparting truth. At least as close to the truth as we know it and maybe that is the prime reason because I’m going to tell you, Alan, when you listen to some of the other broadcasts that are on the air there’s so much fluff and there’s so much BS and so much non-essential misinformation and disinformation along with it that it’s really basically keeps me doing the broadcast because I think well if Sweet Liberty goes off the air then where are people going to get the truth that are listening to what they believe to be alternative radio. And it isn’t that there isn’t truth that they’re getting, government stuff that’s going on, but it’s details and details and details that we don’t need to keep getting. Well, there’s certain things that need to be brought out, I think. I’m not saying that all of the broadcasts are non-essential but it seems that there’s so much disinformation included–

Alan:  It’s deliberate. There’s no doubt about it.

Jackie:  Yes, it’s deliberate. We’ve got a call here. We’ll take it. Hello.

Storm:  Hello.

Jackie:  Yes, Storm.

Storm:  Greetings Alan and greetings to Jackie. I’m listening to what you were saying. I was listening and I’ll just make this statement and hang up, that the Arabic guy that was being charged with the murder of the Dutch filmmaker said in the trials that he could be a CIA operative or connected to the CIA but he said that he did it for Allah.

Jackie:  He did a what?

Storm:  He would do it again when the mother or one of them was crying and sometimes at these murder trials you get a lot of emotional stuff like that, but he said to the mother that he’d do it again for Allah and so the point that I want to say is that in a way I think it’s not good for the mother. It’s not good for the victim but in a way it’s good for some of the Dutch people and people at large that aren’t connected with this New World Order of Holland or France. You know the ones I heard the stupid political correctness they were talking on the shortwave and in the Dutch newspapers about two years but that last [inaudible] and talking foolishness and kind of good for them because now they realize that if you let these barbarians in your country and letting those third world and all these ideals evolve and all the crap they’re screwing themselves over and that’s what they let in so I know–

Jackie:  It’s all by design, Storm.

 

Storm:  What now?

Jackie:  Yes, thank you.

Storm:  It’s going to backfire because I think it will backfire in the end because most of the people in Holland may not realize that and so as a result they’re still going to be against massive multicultural influx.

 

Jackie:  A lot of people in the U.S. are against it and it just keeps happening. Storm, thanks for your comments.

Storm:  Also I wanted to ask Alan – oh, that’s right, he can’t hear me.

 

Jackie:  He can hear you.

Storm:  I’m going to say this and hang up. Can he maybe just describe to me what exactly the power position is Queen Elizabeth? In other words, is Rothschild above her or is she and Rothschild about on the same level? I’ll hang up. Thank you.

 

Jackie:  Okay, bye. There’s two things here Alan. This Allah thing, well that would be Moslem, right? I’m not familiar with what–

Alan:  The old god was EL. Here’s the Masonic explanation.

Jackie:  I’m not familiar with the situation he was talking about but what caught me was that the guy said I would do it again for Allah and what its doing is their – I get so much of this stuff on the internet about Muslims et cetera.

Alan:  It’s war propaganda.

Jackie:  Propaganda, yes.

Alan:  I mean let’s be honest here. Who invaded who and when did the trouble start?

Jackie:  Okay. Let’s talk about that after this break. Who invaded who and when did the trouble start and maybe you’ll address his question about Queen Elizabeth. Folks, we’re going to take a break here. Alan, you know that statement that Storm made about whatever this murder guy did and said I would do it again for Allah?  Well, that evidently is the big thing and that opens a tremendous can of worms because that’s exactly what their intention here is to create hatred.

Alan:  Again, if this person and other people can’t get it through their heads by checking themselves The New American Century (and apparently the New American Century website), which is the official organization of Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and all the rest of them, which tell you that they intended to take over those countries back in the ’90’s and why they were going to take over them in that order, starting with Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Iran and so on, then there’s no point in reiterating the same thing to them. They can check that themselves if they really care. This whole war was planned in the 1990’s by very powerful people and very powerful corporations. Halliburton put bids in for a share of the action in 1998, so this is where you are with all of this. This is nothing more than a plan – a business plan to take over the Middle East, bring the same system of democracy, which is centralized government, a central bank owned by the World Bank and a system of debt which taxpayers then have to pay off forever. This is the one system that they’re spreading worldwide and all this Allah stuff that they’re using is just the propaganda, no different from the “slant-eyed Japanese” propaganda of World War II. It’s the same stuff.

Jackie:  I was in the car today and I was listening to a talk show host that sounds quite a bit like Rush Limbaugh and I think that’s his aim is to be the Rush Limbaugh of today, but they were advertising a book called “The Ezekiel Plan” and you should have heard the commercial. This guy, whoever wrote this thing, wrote about the Iraq war two years before they did it. He wrote a book about that. He wrote another book about something sort of like prophetic stuff, like this guy didn’t have inside information and now the new book is called “The Ezekiel Plan” and it is the prophetic, it’s prophesied in the Bible. In other words, they’re selling it based on the damn–

Alan:  Of course, yes.

Jackie:  Then it says, “get the book, get the book to find out how much time do we have left.” It’s like Steve Quayle when he was talking one day on his broadcast about some terrible thing that was going to happen. I mean it was going to happen and the whole thing is going to collapse and all of this, and at the end of his broadcast then he said hurry up and get your gold before it’s too late.

Alan:  He was selling generators, foodstuffs at way over market value and rations for the Y2K thing and he made a fortune off of it. He also said, like James Lloyd, that he wouldn’t come back on the air if this did not happen. Months after nothing happened they’re both back on again.

Jackie:  They have no shame, do they, Alan?

Alan:  No. That’s a psychopathic trait, but people are also paid by the CIA to do this. The CIA started up American shortwave.

As far as Queen Elizabeth goes, if people want to believe that somehow she’s at the top, that’s their choice; and no matter what you want to tell them, or any truth or any facts to go and check, they won’t do it anyway.

Jackie:  No, because they believe what they hear.

Alan:  They want to believe what they hear, that’s the difference, and so they don’t check. However, there’s no doubt that special families are bred for certain purposes, but no the Queen doesn’t deal with the details of this. She’s just told; she is a symbol looking over a vast herd of unwashed masses and that they’ll have to be gradually culled off and she’ll have been told that in a very sophisticated scientific lecture probably and it will sound quite natural for her to go along with it, but she won’t do any of this planning and neither would the Rothschild’s. No one in public view could possibly be running this show in case they were assassinated and in that case they would lose their main people. You never put the real controllers in public view. You would never even let the public know their names. Anyone in public view is technically expendable.

Jackie:  It came to my mind when it really clicked with me when we heard about – well, if this happened, but when the chosen people were taken into Babylon and there they were with their own priests, with their own religion, allowed to live separately from all the other people and they were supposed to be in captivity, Alan?

Alan:  And run their own businesses.

Jackie:  Yes, and run their own businesses.

Alan:  No, it’s complete fiction, utter fiction.

Jackie:  That’s when it occurred to me, so, okay, who was controlling the king?

Alan:  Yes and who really came out of Babylon? Was it the Babylon high priesthood?You see, Babylon is wherever they put themselves. That was part of the mystery of Babylon. It could be anywhere they set themselves up and so all we know from the records is that a bunch of people came out with a brand new system of priesthood that didn’t exist before and preached a different type of religion and that religion was based on basically human understanding of law and various laws. It was all to do with legalisms and of course to Christians, they were given one version of it, but it’s almost like keeping two-thirds of the rest from them because the Christians were not given access to the Talmud or the Kabbalah; and only by having the study of all three do you get the big picture. This is a long, long-range plan. There’s no doubt about it.

Jackie:  When you mentioned their legalisms, it brings to mind Moses Mendelssohn’s quote or statement that he allegedly made that Judaism is not a religion, it is a law religionized.

[Call] Hello.

Storm:  I was going to say I’m familiar with that because that happened to William Cooper too, that these people like Rothschild and Rockefeller you never see their faces or their names because they’re not actual government officials so somebody could bump them off.

Jackie:  Is that what you wanted to say, that you knew that?

Storm:  No. I was wondering if he knew if there was anybody in the past that actually attempted that because I don’t remember or recall that ever happening because that could happen.

Jackie:  Okay, thank you. Hello, Alan.

Alan:  I didn’t quite catch what he said there.

Jackie:  What he said is that he knew that what you said about the front guys not being out front and he wondered if you knew if there had been any attempts on any of their lives in the past. The Rockefellers, the Rothschild’s et cetera?

Alan:  No, they’re given preferential treatment and so on. The very fact that a Rothschild could come into Britain supposedly and pull a stunt, a con, if you like, by pretending that Napoleon was winning against Wellington and dumping his bonds so everybody else would dump theirs, then he bought them all up for pennies, and get away with it and walk freely around the narrow streets of London and this ancient nobility of Britain who had assassination teams simply left him alone, that’s rubbish. You see, Rothschild was asked to come in and manage the whole system by the nobility. That’s what it was. That’s what it was. The real powers themselves are never allowed to be shown in public. In fact, in theosophy and a few other Masonic groups they say that the Hidden Masters that run the show at the right time will come forward and show who they really are, but by that time they will have sewn up world government and obviously they’ll have total control of the world and have no fear of anything happening to them, which means that they can only appear in a completely totalitarian system.

Jackie:  In the Protocols they mentioned that their king despot of the blood of Sion, their pope of the world, he will be so benevolent and so with the people that they will even put him out with the people as though he trusts all the people, but they said that of course he would be totally surrounded by his protectors at all times; but whoever it is, Alan, that if they’re going to present somebody, he is going to be slicker than we’ve ever seen before.

Alan:  He’ll have all the answers to the problems of the world because he and his cronies created the problems of the world.

Jackie:  Yes. He’s going to get rid of property taxes too, by the way, because they talk about that in there how the property taxes right now ever escalating. They serve their purpose because they cause unrest, but when they come into their power they’ll get rid of those kinds of things.

Alan:  They will because we won’t have any property by then and we’ll all be living in habitat areas and the UN websites they tell you that there will be no private property. It will be rental only and there will be no private automobiles either; so anybody who wants to check up where we’ll go and how we’re to live, simply has to look into the United Nations website.

Jackie:  We have a quote at our website at sweetliberty.org and I think it’s either in Regionalism or the States Right. Rexford Tugwell after – actually, I think it was around 1934 it was a small newspaper article in Colorado where he said the government will own all land. That was 1934, Alan, or someplace around there.

Alan:  They still Tugwell society, which is funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, but maybe we should also mention that I have the books out now that explain a lot of this.

Jackie:  Well you go right ahead my dear.

Alan:  I go through the Masonic meanings of things, which is very important to understand the language we’re using or what you’re reading in the newspapers, because there’s double meanings in everything and I give you the lost word and tell you what it really is and all the rest of it. None of the nonsense they put out there on the books for you to buy off the shelves and I give you the extracts, where it comes from and so on, very old books, and I also go into the history of money from ancient times. How it was introduced. How they brought down countries – country after country until they were all on the money system.

Jackie:  Built them up and brought them down.

Alan:  That’s right, by using usury and getting them all in debt. It’s a silly thing for relief of Africa. I don’t know how many times they’ve written off third-world debt and these boys, the front men of the so called Rock Star Association that come out and demand we forgive these loans to the third-world countries are working for the banks because we forgive the loans every three or four years. Then we give them another one as soon as they’re forgiven, but what the general public who are all cheering this don’t realize is the money is borrowed from the World Bank by the U.S. and Canada and the guarantors to pay the loans off are the Canadian and American citizens, so when we write the loans off to the third-world country the citizens of the U.S. and Canada end up paying it. This is the con game that goes on and on and on and none of the money gets to Africa anyway. It never does.

Jackie:  Maybe they’re going to call it CanadaUS?

Alan:  That’s a good name, but if you want the three books [see www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com for ordering information] and you can’t buy this information off the shelf.

Jackie:  As Alan has suggested, that if you don’t have I and II yet, it would be better to start there and if you have those books, No. III, “Cutting Through” is now available. Alan, did you find a way to get those copied by the way?

Alan:  I did get a dozen copied today.

Jackie:  Did you really?

Alan:  By some strange miracle. Some of the pages are a bit too close to the edges but it’s legible but I didn’t have the same chaos as the last time.

Jackie:  You went to another place?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Did you want to tell our listeners what happened to you?

Alan:  Well, it’s difficult to imagine but however I did take three master copies in for I, II and III into a Staples place where they recopy. The girl told me it would take half an hour, no problems. It was a quiet day and I came back in half an hour and they had my pages all over the counters scattered. They had a full counter about 30 feet long at the back covered with different pages from my stuff. There were pages on top of the photocopiers. Neither photocopier would work properly with my material and it kept chewing the copies up. However, in between all of this, in a four hour space, mind you, they did other peoples’ stuff, rushed it through and both machines worked perfectly with everyone else’s material. As soon as you put mine back on, sure enough, the paper jams and they have to get the paper from inside and at the end I knew they couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty together again because I didn’t know where all this stuff was.

Jackie:  You didn’t know where the masters were.

Alan:  Oddly enough, the three girls there were in sort of a daze and they were not standing talking to each other. They were reading through my material, which was all over the place.

Jackie:  And one had told you they weren’t supposed to read it?

Alan:  That’s right. I asked her what’s happening and she said well nothing at the moment. I said, well I’ve been here for four hours while nothing’s happening except that you seem to be destroying everything I’ve written, and their answers were completely out of context with the situation: like is there something the matter, sir? It was incredible.

Jackie:  And they didn’t seem to be flustered at the problems they were having?

Alan:  No.

Jackie:  Hello.

Pat:  Hi Jackie. I was wondering if you could ask Alan what his position or opinion is of the Protocols. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him give his opinion one way or another whether he believes.

Jackie:  Yes. Who’s calling?

Pat:  This is Pat.

Jackie:  Pat, speak up just a little bit, your question again.

Pat:  I was just wondering if you could ask Alan what his personal opinion or belief on the Protocols, whether they’re real or fiction or forgery and also if you can ask him to speak on his background. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him speak about his knowledge or where he’s from.

Jackie:  Like a bio on Alan?

Pat:  Sure.

Jackie:  Okay.

Pat:  Thank you.

Jackie:  Thanks, Pat. Alan, did you want to finish what you were saying about – well, folks, when Alan and I talked that evening when he had experienced this, what I got listening is that the people that were going through all these problems – I’ve been to Staples before because we put packets together and we have them copied and collated and et cetera and the thing is that while all of this was going on for four and a half hours at least, because he waited a half hour to come back to get them, these people didn’t seem to be flustered at the problems they were having and the way Alan was talking about it sounded like these people were in just some kind of a daze. Didn’t it Alan?

Alan:  Yes. You see what we’re talking about was the Queen and the Rothschild’s and so on is tiddly-winks because there are sciences at work here and forces way above all of this. The sciences alone are so far advanced it puts all science fiction in the kindergarten categories. Sciences are so advanced.

Jackie:  Would you like to come back with us tomorrow night?

Alan:  Sure.

Jackie:  Let’s go into that and would you like to comment on Pat’s question about what your thoughts are on the Protocols?

Alan:  The Protocols, whoever wrote them – to me, I don’t care who wrote them because the fact is everything in them and there’s no doubt they were written at the time they were said to be written and what they wrote about things that would be made to occur within society, not by any supernatural means either, have occurred and it’s too precise. It has too precise a grip on societal structures, mass psychology, individual psychology and group psychology. It’s too perfect. I’m sure it wasn’t put together by one person and regardless of who it’s attributed to, the fact is what was planned in it cannot be denied.

Jackie:  And the way it’s written of course they speak about themselves as being the chosen and their dispersal has been actually a blessing to them and so either in fact or by them wanting people to believe it was those who called themselves Jews who were laying this out.

Alan:  At the same time it was done primarily as far as we know by those in Russia who were Kazarian extract who had no Hebrew blood in them at all, so that’s another little mystery as to who these people really were in the first place.

Jackie:  Will you consider tomorrow night about giving our listeners a brief background on who Alan Watt is?

Alan:  Yes, not too much though.

Jackie:  Okay. All right, well that’s great. I’ve had a lot of people ask me and it might be helpful for our listeners or it may be just interesting to know about who Alan Watt is and so ladies and gentlemen, we will pick this up again tomorrow night. Alan will be back with us and we’ll play it as it lays and thank you for being with us tonight, and Alan, thank you. Thank you for taking time out from your guests to be on the air with us.

Alan:  Good night.

Jackie:  Good night.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

July 13, 2005

Alan:  This the Jackie Patru show with Alan Watt here and Jackie’s just popped out to get some things that she needs and she’ll be back in a minute or so. Today is the 13th of July 2005 and I think we’re carrying on today in our talk at where we left off yesterday, if we can find the exact place where we did break off. We we’re talking about the system that we live in and where it’s come from and where it’s going, which is quite something in itself. I should also say at the beginning that I have three books to sell with information on freemasonry that is not published in books which you can buy from the shelf. I go into the religions as well, the creations of religions, who created them, what they really mean and how it’s been used against the public to control their minds, very effectively in fact, up to the present time and so there’s three of them. [See www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com for ordering information] and I’ll get them out as fast as I can. What I tried to do is to go through how the system works. I even go through the language for the public so you’ll see that your language itself contains meanings within meanings, which the Masons use all the time. Albert Pike himself said “we never talked so freely as we do amongst the public because they don’t understand what we’re really saying” and I show you their codings which are within the language we use every day and you’ll see it in newspaper headlines and blurbs on the news and all that kind of thing.

Jackie:  Yes and you got your copies made, didn’t you, Alan?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Thank you for opening for us. Folks, Alan probably already said this is Wednesday the 13th of July and it is the last night of our broadcast week of course. I want to share our spiritual message tonight. This is a statement attributed to Jesus in Matthew 25 beginning with verse 35.

             “For I was hungry and you gave me meat. I was thirsty and you gave me drink. I was a stranger and you took me in naked and you clothed me. I was sick and you visited me. I was in prison and you came unto me; inasmuch as you have done it unto the least of these my brethren ye have done it unto me.”

 

Basically what he is saying is that we are all one. Yes, Alan?

Alan:  What he’s saying is that if you neglect those who are less fortunate as yourself then eventually that which afflicts them will creep up to you.

Jackie:  Okay, “As you sow, so shall you reap.”

Alan:  It’s the same today as the gasoline goes up and so on and as always in history the middle classes are the last ones to scream because they think well I don’t care about the ones beneath me who get driven off the road first, I’m okay, until it’s starts to eat into their budget. That’s why the system is constructed this way. No one stands together on anything.

Jackie:  You know what that reminds me of in Flint, Michigan, which is where I was born and raised, of course it was an automotive town for eons, but then of course they started closing down. People at the factories made very good money for those times and often there were husbands and wives who both worked at the factory and they had something on television. I wasn’t living there at the time but there was a documentary on TV about the people who were being laid-off their jobs and for example one of the couples that they had were saying that the wife had been laid-off but he still maintained his, but they weren’t able to meet their mortgage payment and they were going to lose their home; and I was talking to a person and she said well good for them, maybe it’s time they start seeing how the other side lives. In other words, there was no compassion and it was just like well if we’re poor why shouldn’t they be.

Alan:  I’ve seen this all through Europe which was going through all of the deindustrialization since World War II, the only difference being that it was never admitted to the public that this was an agenda and so you lived through a misery of constant close-downs and unemployment, and of course those who make more than the rest and who think they’re indispensable have no compassion on the ones beneath them. Everyone has been divided them and that’s how you rule them. You divide and conquer. You have no cohesion there you see and this system is set up deliberately in that fashion so it can be taken down at any time and there is no cohesion between the people and that’s very unfortunate but that’s deliberate too.

Jackie:  That’s basically what this verse tonight from the Bible said.

Alan:  Yes and the most amazing thing is that the antidote to all of our ills is in the New Testament, there’s no doubt, and it preexisted the writing of the New Testament. The antidote has always been known but people won’t go there because the antidote is for everyone to help everyone else.

Jackie:  In other words, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Alan:  And a pure faith that if you do give your extra coat to somebody, then when you need one down the road then someone’s going to give one to you. If people truly followed that system, which was a natural tribal system at one time, there would be no bankers, no money, no debt, no system to rule our lives and dictate to us what we must do. Unfortunately, in a materialistic world which has been created through the banking system, everyone looks at everyone else to say well who’s going to go first and try this, to try this other way, and no one wants to do it.

Jackie:  They address that very thing in the Protocols, knowing human nature, that bringing people into the materialistic system where the more stuff you have the more “oh I guess you’re supposed to be happier?”I have a friend who’s a multi, multi, multimillionaire and I actually feel sorry for this person. In fact, I used to work for him but I talked to him one day. He had just gotten a new condo in Nevada, a penthouse thing, and he said he was sitting there surveying his kingdom and he has – I suppose his friends – and he’s actually had pictures taken with Poppy Bush and lots of movie stars and that’s his life; and I don’t know. Do you think he thinks he’s happy?

Alan:  I’m sure he thinks he’s supposed to be happy, because that’s what everything gears you up to is the more you have then the less worries in the material world you should have, so therefore technically you’re supposed to be happy and of course that’s not true because this is an artificial system we live in. There’s nothing natural about anything. In fact the whole commercial system runs on the fact that people are not happy and that’s why they can sell all kinds of gadgetry to the public on the premise that if you buy this you’re going to be happy. If people were truly happy the system would fall apart by itself and we’d buy no more and see gee I’ve actually got all I need or all I want, you see. No, it’s all a big lie and it’s not a natural system. It’s a system that was developed thousands of years ago by let’s just say beings that have observed humanity for long enough to decide how to take it over and it was taken over through very clever means, looking at the weaknesses of the male and the weaknesses of the female and exploiting them. That’s how you take over. You exploit those weaknesses and you dangle beads in front of the woman et cetera and then you dangle the woman with the beads in front of the male and that’s when status comes in and superiority and I’m better than the guy next to me, I’ve got all this wealth, and that’s how the whole darn thing was done.

If you look at ancient tribes, for instance, it’s recorded even in the writings of Tacitus of Rome that the European tribes, the chiefs who were elected by the way had no more property or personal valuables than the average tribesman. They had no more, so the money system itself creates the greed, creates the class divisions and of course it also enables those who run the system to then take back any money which represents your labor in taxes. That’s how they do it. They get the world working for them under the guise of you working for yourself. You’re actually working for them when 40 percent or more of your labor goes back to them in taxes.

Jackie:  In your book and I had this as a question I wanted to ask you. You had told us about Sparta in the past and how Sparta the people lived. You had told us about a system where the men were warriors and they actually had to be in the army and that they weren’t able to live with their wives and stuff like that. It was all common. They ate together and lived together and in your book you talk about Sparta, and I’m not challenging. I want you to explain this that you said the Spartans had been at one time a healthy wholesome people in total control of their own affairs and you used it as an example. They had their own monetary system et cetera. Was that an earlier time?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Okay, so it was after they got into the monetary system that they got so nuts?

Alan:  Every country had been taken over by bankers from Asia Minor basically who had come in and the merchant bankers were that. They were merchants and bankers in one and they dangled their goods there and they introduced their silver and said well if you accept this coinage in other words and then repay us the next time in the same coinage you can buy more stuff. They were introducing their money system everywhere they went and Sparta initially allowed some of them in and the King Lycurgus noticed that every other country that allowed this became servants to these bankers. They were all in debt. Every citizen was taxed to death. Property was confiscated and so on, and so he kicked them all out and reestablished the traditional means of exchange which they’d used, which was basically iron and the iron that they used was tempered in such a way that you couldn’t even cut it and then reuse it for anything else. It was solely for money and no one else wanted it but they were self-sufficient so they used it internally and it functioned very well.

Jackie:  What you told us about them, they were almost slaves to the government. Well, they were. That was later after.

Alan:  That was later because they went through such prolonged warfare for many, many years fighting the countries that had already been taken over. See, once the countries were taken over by the bankers, the bankers then put their own men in to advise the tyrants to create standing armies and train them and they gave them the money to supply them with armaments and then they would send them off on conquests on their neighbors. In other words, those countries which had not yet accepted the money, so they tried that with Sparta too and Sparta fought for years and kept winning all the time and they threw many, many other nations armies against them but the Spartans kept winning. However, through it all, they lost so many men and they captured so many people that they used as slaves that they began to get debauched themselves. That’s what warfare does to people in a prolonged fashion. Even though you’re winning the war in a sense in a defensive way, you still become debauched because you still have to have grain growing and farming done and all the rest of it, and when all the men are off fighting, then once you start using slaves then you’re going down the same path as the very people that you’re fighting against.

Jackie:  I noticed that you said in here that when the bankers began getting a toehold you said along with treaties loans came the usual (this is today) that that was way back then. What is the timeline here?

Alan:  The Spartans eventually had to give in.

Jackie:  I know but what is just the general timeline?

Alan:  They had to basically give in and admitted defeat around 350 BC or so.

Jackie:  Okay, that long ago?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  You said here and we know that this is so by our own experience today, along with treaty loans came the usual pornography, narcotics, expensive wines and deviant sexual practices everywhere they go. Everywhere they go.

Alan:  They’ve found so many clay tablets even of pornography and intercourse and postures and all this stuff and they found it all the way from Babylon on the trade routes and they’ve even found down in the Aegean Sea where ships were sunk that there was whole boat loads of what was then pornography, wine and drugs as well because they did have trade with India and carried opium all over the place. It’s the same technique. It’s been here for thousands of years.

Jackie:  That’s why this international priesthood that’s been around for eons so well knows basic human nature.

Alan:  Absolutely. There’s no creature more studied on the planet than man and women in minute detail and that’s why human behavior is predictable if you put forth a sequence, as though pushing buttons. A certain sequence will produce a certain reaction from the public and it will always produce the same reaction if produced in the same way.

Jackie:  I want our listeners to know that what you mentioned about the pornography, there is a photocopy here in the book, a picture of one of the clay tablets of what you were talking about, sexual positions. Do you care if I read one paragraph here?

Alan:  Carry on.

Jackie:  This is after Sparta. I wanted our listeners to hear this.

“The reason for dwelling on Sparta is because it is perhaps one of the most clear examples of how countries fall, one-by-one to tried and proven methods of subversion by a determined group of men of ‘secrecy,’ a special ‘brotherhood’ with a cunning and totally ruthless ‘something’ at the top, something with almost incredible intellect and knowledge of human behaviour; something which plans the future many centuries in advance, that which it calls progress nothing more than a business-plan for the entire world. There have been many ‘Spartas’ down through the ages, with ever-increasing mass slaughter of peoples as this dark ‘thing’ gets closer and closer to its goal. Not one generation has been allowed freedom from war for the last few hundred years, especially in Europe.”

Boy, it’s just like you’re describing today, Alan, and this ‘thing.’ What is this ‘thing,’ in your mind, what is this dark ‘thing’? It’s almost out of this world.

Alan:  It’s a combination; it’s almost a mosaic you might say.

Jackie:  Would you define mosaic for me please?

Alan:  A mosaic is that which is made up of different parts which make the whole, like a jigsaw puzzle, and so certainly there’s no doubt whatsoever here in the world we have different strata of humanity working towards a destination which openly declares the elimination of the majority of the rest of humanity. These people who are at the top of this are extremely wealthy because has always been the key to everything in an economic system. We are actually classified as human cattle and producers in this system.

Jackie:  The word capital as a matter of fact came from the word chattel, cattle and capital.

Alan:  Yes, and even the stock market – the stock was the cattle in the markets, like a cattle market.

Jackie:  Oh my God, Alan, like the stockyards.

Alan:  That’s exactly where it came from, so we are the laborers. We are the stock market. Everything in this system is artificial – deviant actually. See, anything which isn’t natural is therefore deviant and the deviants are running the world and not only running the world, they’ve trained everyone who’s born into the system that this is all quite natural and that money is natural and 12 or 13 banking families control the world and that’s somehow quite natural too. Then we’re trained through a schooling system to go out there and produce for them and pay 40 percent or more of your taxes back to them so that they can then keep in power and create a system of power which cannot be broken because they buy armaments and all the rest of it to take care of their own system. Money is the key. Money itself is a deviant creation.

Jackie:  And taxes are a deviant creation.

Alan:  Absolutely. Taxes at one time were called “fees,” from “feu,” from the Norman word “feu,” for feudal, you see. Feudal, you had fee and you had to pay your fee to the lord, and so they changed it from that to taxes. Now to tax someone means to labor. To labor, you see. You tax yourself, you’re laboring yourself, so taxing is simply taking away so much of your time, energy and work and giving it or actually stealing it from you and giving it to them and that’s how this system keeps itself in power.

Jackie:  So taxes are so taxing?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  On our energy?

Alan:  Absolutely. That’s what taxes mean. They take from you that which would be useless to them unless it was their system, and that is money, so they dish it out there so that we all run like little trained rats to grab the money. We pull levers all day long in a factory and then we get a feed at the end of it or we get a paycheck. It’s the same Pavlovian principle and then they take so much of it back from us, but by this token they can hire as many as they want of us to work for them for their agenda and even create the weaponry and the scientific structure to maintain a superpower over the public of the world and that’s exactly how they keep control of it all. Money is a deviant thing. It’s a deviant creation and those who run this system are the deviant creation.

Jackie:  And what we as individuals can do is everything within our ability and power to do not to become part of the system. You know the ID. If you’re caught on the street today without an ID of some type, you’re going to be probably termed a terrorist.

Alan:  Yes and when you tell them well I have no ID or no idea, that won’t hold up anymore.

Jackie:  No, it wouldn’t. We have to take our break here. We’ll be right back with Alan Watt. Alan, thanks for your patience.

Alan:  If I can go off the track for a minute and mention something.

Jackie:  Oh, go anywhere you want, my dear.

Alan:  I need advice on something here.

Jackie:  What?

Alan:  Yes, because you know how I’ve been getting trouble photocopying the stuff I write?

Jackie:  Yes.

Alan:  Well, today I was making up a master copy on my little single photocopy machine and tiny piece of plastic bust which held a spring on it and that was the end of that, so what I want to know is there anything out there that isn’t too expensive that can actually be used for some sort of desktop publishing so that I can do my own prints and so on on a fairly large scale that isn’t too expensive and lot of maintenance and so on?

Jackie:  Alan?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  You are asking the wrong person, but you know what? You’ve put this out there and folks, I want any of you who have some information for him, there could be one of you out there who has equipment that you’re not using that you might like to donate, except I need for Alan to be a little bit more clear on what it is he is looking for. Now Alan, exactly again what is it?

Alan:  Well, I have so much trouble with the companies the regular chains like Staples and so on —

Jackie:  Out of this world trouble.

Alan:  Literally out of this world trouble, destroying master copies and everything–

Jackie:  Not the people, the machines.

Alan:  That’s right and the people doing crazy things certainly. I’m almost paranoid to put my stuff out there. No Mason is going to print this stuff because I disclose the real truth about masonry – not the bookstore-shelf type thing you can buy. I go much deeper than that, but no Mason is going to print this and so what I need is something which can do multiple copies so I’m not standing all day making up one copy for one person.

Jackie:  Well, you know it seems to me like you need a duplexer too. Either that or – in other words, duplexing means having both sides of the page copied.That could be an expensive piece of equipment. When I owned my business – in fact I bought it particularly for this stuff that would do duplexing and collating and et cetera. Collating is putting the pages in the order. Those machines are pretty expensive but you can if you had one that gave you nice crisp clean copies you could always feed the pages in, turn them over, put them back in and feed them through the other side and you could do that and it still would be time saving. Anyways, folks, this is what Alan’s question was and if there is anybody out three that has some suggestions for him or as I said maybe a piece of equipment that you’re not using. I had a lovely copy machine donated to me back in about 19 gosh about ’94 and it doesn’t duplex or anything like that but it is a really – well, right now it needs door but it is a nice machine and it was donated and people are very generous when they appreciate what you’re doing.

Alan:  Well, if I had something like that I could churn out a book a month. That’s the problem. I take my stuff into the stores. They see these symbols and so on. Everything goes crazy. The machines break down. They shred your master copies and you end up walking out with a box full of shredded material, and that’s happened actually.

Jackie:  Who’s to say that maybe some wealthy person could be listening to this broadcast that would be willing to set you up or something like that.

Alan:  Yes, because I certainly am not wealthy. I could be if I wanted to go back into the world for sure, but no, I scrape by like many people and I donate a lot of time to what I’m doing.

Jackie:  Yes you do. Pat called last night, Patrick, and he wanted to know if you would be willing to give us a little bit of a bio on yourself so they get a sense of who is Alan Watt?

Alan:  Well, I won’t go too far into credentials except to say yes, I certainly did have a profession that was sort of highly regarded and I walked away from it and I was qualified and so on. I then went into music and did a lot of session work in studios and I also formed groups to play live musicals and I also did classical guitar solo on stage across Europe.

Jackie:  Didn’t you build your own guitar?

Alan:  Yes, oh yeah.

Jackie:  Oh yeah.

Alan:  Yes I did. I did all that too and I walked away from that again and I made a fair bit of money at the time and I also walked away from a marriage and left the money with it and I didn’t care because I thought I could do it all again if I wanted to. However, then I chose a different path and I’m glad I did, because the path of learning – I’d learned all I had to learn by meeting powerful people and seeing how culture is created by certain individuals who are trained from birth basically in culture creation of music or movies or stage plays and so on, so I mixed with that crew and I could see them working and I knew it was not haphazard. I knew there was a direction to all of it. No matter what country you went into the same things were happening culture-wise in every single country, which told me there was a guiding hand behind this and that those who created the culture and altered culture were all in cahoots together from some central source and of course we know that is true today. Truly, there is no grassroots culture.

As Plato said 2,350 years ago, he said, we give the people their culture, we control the mechanisms of culture. He said we give them music, the type of music and he said so we need the music industry. That’s what he called it. He said we also use the fashion industry which goes along with it and we also use the acting industry; and it hasn’t changed today and he said the people see these things and emulate what they see and the fashions that are worn, they mimic them. They want the same clothing et cetera, so this was understood thousands of years ago. And it’s so much so that Plato said that music especially since it can affect the young to go to any lengths of either ecstasy or rebellion. He said music should be licensed and musicians that are very good at their art should be licensed because he knew the power that it could have on the young especially and he says we can use the youth for rebellion simply by the type of music we give them. This is 2,350 years ago and nothing has changed except that you have massive studios all interconnected, a massive industry that throws people in front of you, builds them up and tells you that they’re stars and they don’t even have to have any talent at all because the equipment is so fantastic anybody can sing through it and sound right. All you need is someone to act or mime and they’re an instant star.

Jackie:  I remember when you told us that, that they just choose the people to put them out front and that maybe the best really talented ones are at home. But I’ll you when that really – I didn’t disbelieve you but there are certain times you say things, I don’t discard it or reject it but I don’t necessarily accept it as oh okay because Alan said it. But I flipped on the TV one night and they were having one of those Jerry Lewis Telethons. This lady walked out on the stage and she had on a long full skirt, kind of long. She had boots on and she was singing Nancy Sinatra’s song “These Boots Are Made for Walking,” I felt so sorry for this woman. I thought oh my God, she can’t even carry a tune. Who in the world is that and then Jerry Lewis said come over here and sit in Uncle Jerry’s lap and it was Nancy Sinatra. She was heavier so I didn’t recognize her looks, but Alan, she couldn’t even carry a tune.

Alan:  Many of them are like that. Marianne Faithful that used to be with the Rolling Stones or Mick Jagger, it was the same. She was always discordant. She was tone deaf in fact. There’s many like that.

Jackie:  Just give me one song she sang?

Alan:  I can’t even remember.

Jackie:  I remember the name but I don’t recall.

Alan:  They were so pitiful that they’re not worth remembering.

Jackie:  When you were talking about giving us the culture through music, you see the children today opting into the black culture. It’s actually African.

Alan:  This is something even beyond Africa.

Jackie:  It is, isn’t it, Alan?

Alan:  It’s beyond Africa. Even in Africa they had some talent but the stuff that they’ve used the blacks to promote, it’s a scientific sub-primitive type of music which is beyond way before Africa. I was listening to one rap artist who went downhill on drugs and alcohol and the high life and he said we walked into a studio when we first started with a clean decent song, and I’ve seen this happening because I used to work in that kind of field, but he said by the time they had finished with the song they’d rewritten everything and “kill cops,” there was “screw you” and all this kind of stuff in there and they became instant hits and their image was made for them. You’ll wear your baggy pants down to here et cetera, he says but that wasn’t how we even started. That’s what those who control the industry wanted.

Jackie:  So in other words – yes, it occurs to me and I didn’t even think about it. I wasn’t the blacks who really thought up these baggy pants and wearing the hats backwards. It was given to them and then the white children and all of the races are mimicking it and do you know the thing that gets me is that the parents go along with this and allow it. We have a phone call here. Hello.

Kate:  Jackie?

Jackie:  Yes.

Kate:  I don’t know if you’re taking a phone call. This is Kate.

 

Jackie:  Hi Kate. We’ll take your phone call, my dear.

Kate:  Ask Alan. I’m very disturbed. I heard on a program earlier, do they have a human right tribunal in Toronto, Canada?

 

Jackie:  You’ll have to hang up to hear him, honey.

Kate:  Yes I know.

 

Jackie:  Okay, Alan, you heard her. Do they have a human rights tribunal in Canada?

Kate:  I heard a restaurant owner that was put up before that tribunal because he refused to advertise gay marriages. I mean have they come to the point that Edgar Bronfman the Jew that runs Canada and promotes homosexuality is coming to the United States and I’ll hang up.

Jackie:  Kate, did you say that you heard that on a newscast or a radio broadcast? Oh, she’s hung up. All right, did you hear if she said she heard it on a radio broadcast or a news broadcast, Alan?

 

Alan:  I didn’t catch that part, but it is illegal not to take advertising from these communities as they call them. If you’re a printer or whatever you happen to be and you deny them access to your facility and you will not print their material, then you will be fined or imprisoned or whatever.

Jackie:  I thought she said a restaurant owner wouldn’t promote gay marriage and went before the human rights tribunal in Canada.

Alan:  I don’t see how a restaurant though has anything to do with promoting gay marriage.

Jackie:  Did she say restaurant owner?

Alan:  I think so.

Jackie:  Okay. Her basic question is do you know if there’s a human rights tribunal in Canada?

Alan:  Yes. It’s the wrong term for it because it’s not human rights. It’s the agenda’s rights and it’s called political correctness. The term political correctness in English is the direct translation from the term they used in the Soviet Union because that’s what they went through and that’s why we call it political correctness. We have it here now of course. It’s mandated. This is what you will think and this is what you must say and don’t you dare say anything to the contrary. This is of course freedom and democracy. It’s so farcical that these people who claim that they’re not bigoted and anything can go because they don’t care and anybody should be able to worship whatever they want or do whatever they want, when you go against their agenda they certainly show you that they’re utter liars because they’ll come down on you for your beliefs. They’re utter hypocrites, under the guise of complete liberalism they will destroy, they’ll annihilate you because they’re more intolerant than any system that’s ever existed basically, but that is their system.

Jackie:  Well, I’m going back to the parents here. I just think it is so important for parents who know this and understand this and hopefully our listeners are sharing this information with their children so that the children understand how they’re being used. For example, gay rights. I made it clear to my grandchildren there’s nothing gay about homosexuality. Now they act like oh it’s great today and it’s normal. There’s nothing normal about it. The human body wasn’t even made that way.

Alan:  Well, what gets me is that – see, all children as they’re going through puberty feel awkward, male and female. You watch them moving even. You can tell them feel and look awkward and they’re trying to sort out who they are in the big scheme of things, which is artificial to begin with, and here you have counselors saying well maybe you’re homosexual.

Jackie:  That’s right.

Alan:  They also tell them well maybe if you haven’t tried it then you’re inhibited.

Jackie:  Thank you for bringing this up because I received a call from a listener last night and he said it’s never going fly. It’s just not natural and I didn’t want to get in a debate. I just said they are pushing it down the children’s throats and I recall hearing this on I think it was the news. Not on TV, but radio when a 12-year old boy, a seventh grader, he was told after an assessment test or whatever they do, psychological testing at school, that he was homosexual and they asked him how do you feel to find out that you’re homosexual? He said, I don’t know because I didn’t know I was one. But the fact that from grade school, kindergarten today, they are promoting this homosexuality is a normal healthy way of being, there’s nothing wrong or unnatural about it. Well, these children are in such a formative stage and today’s children have been given and shoved down their throats so much pornography that sex has become meaningless.

Alan:  This is what people have to understand: nothing in society in cultural change comes from the public. It comes from a system that’s changing direction to the next part of their system and what it is is that they want to create a world and Plato talked about it thousands of years ago. They want to create a world where they have perfect slaves and they’re going to clone these slaves. However, step-by-step you have to get to the cloning stage and that can only be done when the public have no conception of what normality is anymore.

Jackie:  And of course they’re doing it. Give us the young. Give us the young and within a generation we can change the world and that’s exactly and I hope my caller last night is listening to this because I just wasn’t in the mood to go into it and we’re almost out of our hour again, but you shared something with me. There was a documentary on I believe CBC and these young people and they were wearing the tongue buttons or whatever and a young girl 12 or 13 years old I think – I know this is sensitive but it was regarding oral sex and she said it’s nothing.

Alan:  It’s nothing, yeah. It’s like Bill Clinton, “I did not have sex with that woman.” Technically, he was using newspeak as you would say.

Jackie:  Yes. All right, well Alan, once again thank you for being with us.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure as always.

Jackie:  Thank you and ladies and gentlemen, have a lovely four days off from this broadcast and we’ll be back with you on Monday and I’m hoping tomorrow, Alan, the rest of the garden is going to be totally finished. It hasn’t rained yet and they promised it.

Alan:  Oh well. If they promised it they’ll give it to you.

Jackie: Okay. You have a lovely time with your guests. Give them my regards.

Alan:  I will.

Jackie:  Okay, good night.

Alan:  Good night.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

July 18, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. We were so late getting on. We had a guest lined up this evening and I do not know what happened. This is whatever, so at the last minute I called Alan and what we were going to be talking about tonight and I hope that she will be able to come on with us. We were going to be talking about aspartame. I’ve got a video, a DVD actually and this thing is just atrocious. It’s terrible what’s going on and the deaths and the illness that has been created by this terrible additive of excitotoxin that has been added to so many foods. Anyway, Alan is with us and today is the Monday the 18th of July in the year 2005 and I sure hope you stayed with us. Well, those of you who are listening did stay with us, didn’t you? We were five minutes late getting on. Alan, thanks for being here tonight.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Yeah, right. Way last minute, huh?

Alan:  Last minute, yes, and a very hot night too.

Jackie:  Oh boy is it hot there too, Alan?

Alan:  On Saturday, it hit 115.

Jackie:  Oh no. Now, actual temperature or heat index?

Alan:  That was the temperature on the thermometer. It was over 100 in the shade.

Jackie:  Oh my God. And what is it going down to in the evening?

Alan:  It’s around just above 80 right now, sometimes 85.

Jackie:  But I mean Saturday, it went down to 80 that night?

Alan:  That night, no. It stayed around – well into darkness it was just below 90 and they were spraying the skies like crazy.

Jackie:  Yes. Well, it’s I don’t know about probably 90 here. I was going to do a check on the weather bug and see what the heat index is because it feels almost like it did when it was 96.The heat itself is just something else. I want to share something with our listeners, something that you mentioned to me, Alan, and I don’t want to forget to say this because I think it could be very helpful for many of us this coming winter. Folks, I was talking to Alan – I’m heating with natural gas here now that Chuck is gone and not using the firewood and gas, the prices are just terrible. If they keep raising them I don’t know what’s going—well, I do understand it’s part of rural cleansing because those of us who live out in the country we have these what the heck do they call them Alan where its supposed to be all the people are involved.

Alan:  They want us into the habitat areas.

Jackie:  What I’m talking about is that the gas company itself. I forget what it is. When I lived Carlinville, Illinois, it was the same thing and the electric prices there were just absolutely terrible. Anyway, folks, not this past winter but the winter before I kept my thermostat at 60. Sometimes I got brave and put it down to 59 and I was wearing several layers of clothing in order to even have a modicum of – I was comfortable although my hands and my nose and stuff was cold but I literally was wearing three layers of clothing and last winter I kept my thermostat at 62 and on account of that my heating bill went $100 a month. When I called to ask them about it she said well you’ve used 10 more decagons this year than you did last year at the same time. I said oh I see. Last year I was wearing three layers of clothing to keep warm and this year I’m wearing only two. Well, what Alan suggested when I mentioned to Alan how come like in the spring, in the fall if it’s 60 degrees and you put on a pair of sweats and a flannel shirt or a sweat shirt you’re very, very comfortable and yet I was freezing at 60 degrees in my home in the winter time and I asked Alan why that would be. The one thing that Alan mentioned is that because it is so dry, the cold is a dry cold and he said that if we put a humidifier in the house and add humidity to atmosphere within then the 60 degrees would be probably the same thing.

Alan:  Yes, it certainly helps absolutely.

Jackie:  Well nothing else makes any sense. Sixty degrees is 60 degrees and yet at 60 degrees in the winter time, my God you’re freezing.

Alan:  I know. If you put humidity into the air, it’s completely different from dry warm air and lasts longer too, by the way. It keeps your heating bills down.

Jackie:  Well I guess it would.

Alan:  It actually holds the heat, you see, the moisture, and your furnace will kick on less.

Jackie:  Well I heat with baseboard hot water heat, which is wonderful, I love it. I had that in Illinois also and it is a wonderful heat and you don’t have the forced air blowing in and it is a comfortable warmth, but I know that it has to be what you’re saying because nothing else makes any sense.

Alan:  Yes and if you get static shocks in the winter time in your house, that’s a sign it’s too dry.

Jackie:  Yes, well I don’t recall getting static shocks for whatever reason but it has to be that because we’ve had even in the early summer and of course in the spring we had a lot of days that were 60 and 58 and et cetera. I only wore a pair of sweats and a flannel shirt and I was very, very comfortable, Alan, and I thank you for that and I wanted to tell our listeners this because it might slip my mind when winter comes to tell them this, so you keep this in mind, folks.

Alan:  There’s no doubt that energy is going to be the big thing. We’re going into a crisis point of crisis creation and that’s why the gasoline is so high. They’re modifying the weather like crazy. There’s no doubt about it. It’s the Wizard of Oz with his advanced science that’s doing this.

Jackie:  Remember I told you I heard on the Weather Channel that day that it had been really unseasonably cold and then it started nice and warming up and she says well we’re keeping the temperatures up there for you guys to give you a break this weekend; and I thought, you know what, they’re really doing it.

Alan:  They are doing it.

Jackie:  I mean I don’t know if these weather people – do you think they know about this?

Alan:  I’m sure they do because I mean even NASA had to put out some kind of cover story to explain the satellite photographs of the Earth, especially North America which was just almost a fog of they called them contrails from the aircraft; of course it’s chemical. We know it’s chemicals. Many people have tested this.

Jackie:  They said also that it was commercial aircraft, didn’t they?

Alan:  Yes and let’s be honest. I mean commercial aircraft didn’t suddenly – in fact there’s less commercial aircraft than there was last year.

Jackie:  Well are they going to make X’s in the sky with underlines and pretty sun rays?

Alan:  They’ll probably play games with the O and the X and the straight lines. They’re playing games, plus the HAARP can be picked up on the shortwave; if you scan the shortwave, you’ll pick up the frequencies.

Jackie:  I just lost some volume on you. Oh, there we are. Say that again.

Alan:  You’ll find on the shortwave if you scan it, you’ll find where the HAARP frequencies are if you scan during the day or in the evening and sometimes early in the morning around 9000 kilohertz you’ll find the HAARP and it makes a wow-wow-wow sound constant. Then around noon time, it’s just before the same station that WWCR is on, it’s just a little bit before–

Jackie:  12.160?

Alan:  It’s just before there around 12,000 you’ll find it and then in the evening it changes just before 5070 and generally it will stay on that all night until the early morning.

Jackie:  What will it be, at about 6000 or what?

Alan:  You just scan from about 5000 onwards until you come across it before the first commercial station.

Jackie:  And how do you know that’s HAARP, Alan?

Alan:  It wasn’t there a couple of years ago. They were testing it once in a while, but about a year and a half ago or so they started to use it full time.  It doesn’t sound like anything else on the shortwave. It’s a pulsation, a very strong signal and it’s a pulsing sound it makes and of course HAARP have – they have declared – they always legally tell you in a sense what they’re doing, even if it’s a brief quip somewhere, but they did say that they had stepped up their generating power and even the Alaskan one; and remember there’s 56 or more of these HAARP facilities across the planet.

Jackie:  And there’s acres and acres of transmitters, towers.

Alan:  Yes. They can actually link them up in different countries and bounce them off the ionosphere and then bring them down on any target they want to – hold on a second.

Jackie:  Is that Max?

Alan:  Saw some rabbits. Wow, it’s a little cat. I don’t know where that came from. That’s new.

Jackie:  In the house?

Alan:  No, outside, but it’s coming up this way. I don’t know where that came from. Anyway, the HAARP is playing full time and of course they’re spraying as well like crazy. Even when the storms are going on you see them laying these lines you know. They never stop.

Jackie:  You mean when we’re having thunderstorms?

Alan:  Yes. You’ll see it before. In fact, I’ve got used to telling when there’s going to be a thunderstorm because there’s a different kind of spray they lay out. They lay it on very, very thickly and it turns into that almost like looking through a polythene sheet across the sky and that’s the polymers, which is a form of plastic molecule that they are spraying, and it’s quite something to see.

Jackie:  Besides the metals.

Alan:  The metals come down too.

Jackie:  You know it occurs to me that occasionally we do have new listeners I think and we’re sitting here talking as though everybody knows exactly what we’re talking about. Just briefly, explain what the HAARP project is.

Alan:  This is Auroral Research Program, the High Altitude one which is supposed to – it first came out in the Baltic Region when the Soviet Union was using one in Riga. They built the first one we know of.

Jackie:  Is that the one called the woodpecker?

Alan:  That’s right. Basically, all the ham radio enthusiastics were coming off the band. They couldn’t even pick up certain bands because they were blocked out by the woodpecker and it was like a tap, tap, tapping sound at that time, very fast though, and so eventually they targeted it. They could actually diagnose where it was coming from and the Russians admitted they were using this type of powerful ‘standing wave’ as they called it which they bounced up into the ionosphere and then it was targeted down on North America. It was invented by Tesla apparently in the early 1900’s and Tesla himself said that he was stopping experimentation of it because it superheated the atmosphere. It caused a standing wave which could be many, many miles wide and around the standing wave, where nothing really moves, just hot air, they’ll have storms and floods even like a vortex around it. Like a tunnel and he said this could superheat the atmosphere so much that the atmosphere could ignite and yet here they are building these things all over the place and actually using them and targeting North America.

Jackie:  You know on the video that was made called “Are There Holes in Heaven,” Dr. Nick Begich is on it. There’s also a physicist and what she was explaining she said that the ionosphere is sort of like a bubble or a balloon – a bubble around the earth and she said when they send this very concentrated beam of energy into the ionosphere and the earth is rotating, she said they don’t know but it could literally slash holes right into the ionosphere and totally destroy the ionosphere.

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  And her fear, her concern was that they know not what they do and they can be causing irreparable damage to this planet and its atmosphere and outer.

Alan:  As I say, they definitely have advanced science. I think it’s actually more advanced than the public are even aware of, or being told of, and I’m sure they know exactly what temperatures to create. They do admit – in fact they signed a treaty not to use this weather modification and HAARP technology. They signed a treaty at the UN back in the 1970’s and on that treaty they said they will not use it against other countries, so that means they’re open to use it on their own people.

Jackie:  Yes. It doesn’t say anything about within. It prohibits the hostile use of the technology that can cause hurricanes, title waves, earthquakes, like the tsunami that hit.

Alan:  That’s right, so they can do that. They can cause drought and they can cause flooding.

Jackie:  I think that was 1972 or ’74. And folks, think about this. The technology, it didn’t say in this ENMOD treaty that the United Nations did, it didn’t say that it prohibits the research or the development. It says prohibits the use of weather modification techniques, hostile use, and already back then they were admitting that they can cause earthquakes. They can cause floods, hurricanes, all kinds of damaging weather and earth upheavals.

Alan:  If you look at Alberta where they grow such much of the corn and wheat and so on, for the last four years they had a drought – in fact they had a plague of locusts–

Jackie:  I think that’s what – isn’t that what a grasshopper is?

Alan:  It was grasshoppers last year, yes, and so most of the farmers have been going under one by one, and this year when Ontario – typically you have a standing wave and nothing moves. The air didn’t even move here in Ontario. No rain up until about yesterday. Alberta was getting flooded for the last two months or so, complete flooding every day, and whole towns were being upset by this thing.

Jackie:  And that’s the big agricultural area.

Alan:  Yes, so they’ve been put under and Chile apparently is being built up for the NAFTA for joining NAFTA, and Monsanto and Archer Daniel Midland have been using our tax money through the NAFTA grants to build up the huge agricultural business in Chile. It’s interesting as we’re getting put under and our farmers are being put under, here’s the big boys and the commercial farms ready to go with all their produce that we have paid for basically.

Jackie:  Genetically modified produce?

Alan:  Yes, and that will start to supply North America when there is no farming here. Everything is preplanned. Everything that happens in this system is preplanned.

Jackie:  It’s difficult for some people to grasp, even though I believe that within them they know it. It’s just so difficult to accept, to climb out of. Well, you called it free falling. Like free falling, like jumping out of an airplane without a parachute. If you want the truth we have to be willing to let go of all of everything that we thought we knew and begin anew so to speak, and the one thing that I’m clear about is that I know we’re much, much closer to the truth than I know for myself than I have ever been and it has become real clear to me unless I was there, I still don’t absolutely know. I mean I know that there is truth except that – for example, Alan, I received an email. I don’t know if this appeared on the news or not. Thirty-two little Iraqi children were killed by a car bomb and I would imagine if it was on the news they said that it was – you know, what do they call them?

Anyway, there was a report done by a Palestinian, I don’t know if it was a radio or newspaper or whatever. There are actual photographs that they showed the U.S. soldiers handing down candy to Iraqi children and what they did, according to this report, they lured the children into the street into the area and they said that there was a vehicle there that they were afraid had an explosive attached to it and they wanted to keep the children away from it. Well, then they finally told the people it’s okay, there was nothing wrong with the vehicle. So they had all those children in that area giving them candy and Pokemon toys and then they took off like a bat out of hell and the car exploded and they said it wasn’t TNT because it left a crater in the street. It killed 32 little Iraqi children and wounded 10 others that were in the area and I sent it over to Darrin to put onto our website and I realized truly we don’t know if even that is the truth. It looks – the pictures. They had the photographs of the soldiers handing down the candy and they had photographs of adults just sobbing with blood all over their faces and their hands at the children’s death; and yet what I put before it is: if this is the truth, then the American boys and girls/men and women have become the new world barbarians.  Thirty-two little children exploded for what?

Alan:  There’s so little you can take for – well, you can’t take anything on the news today for granted.

Jackie:  See, this wasn’t on the news. That’s the point. This came from a Palestinian or Arab newspaper and whoever put it online translated parts of it for the English-speaking people and just highlighted certain aspects of it. But that’s what I’m saying and to me the pictures gave evidence but it occurred to me that the pictures could be pictures of anything.

Alan:  We’re in a time as I say of chaos because it’s manufactured chaos and to bring in a new age, which this is, they always create a chaos. That’s why your gas is going through the ceiling, the price of gasoline. All energy is going through the roof. They’re modifying the weather to create weather chaos and blame the public for driving and causing it, and the public believe what they see on the news. They think they’re causing the smog, but they never look at the sky and see the stuff being sprayed right above their heads.

Jackie:  You know probably it was back in 1992 when I first became awake and became involved. I read – actually it was an article about ethanol and how easy it is to make it. There were actually instructions on how to make ethanol and run your car on it and in this article it said that the Rothschild’s were buying up at that time hundreds of thousands of acres of land in Brazil to grow the corn so that when they go to ethanol they will be still the suppliers of our fuel and they’ll probably make it illegal to make your own ethanol.

Alan:  Yes, they will. You won’t be allowed to distill anything at all. They already have those laws in place because any spirits you distill yourself they crack down on.

Jackie:  I thought about that, but it’s like alcohol, yes?So the revenuers will come in and crash up your tanks?

Alan:  Yes. There was a fellow who was telling people in Canada a couple of years ago I think online and it was on the regular news. He was telling people how to make their own and how to build the still to make it and the government did crack down on it and arrested him.

Jackie:  Well, you have to have a license to do that.

Alan:  That’s right. You cannot share power. I mean that’s how you keep power. You don’t share it.

Jackie:  Yes, the definition I remember reading this of a license is giving you permission to do something that would otherwise be illegal. We’re at the half hour here, ladies and gentlemen, and once again I’m sorry for our late start tonight and I’m very grateful for Alan for coming on with us because I certainly wasn’t prepared with information to present to you tonight.

All right, we’re back with Alan Watt. I stayed in the house today, Alan. I took a break and I spent about 50 hours last week in that garden, and boy, did I ever wear myself out, so I’ve been inside the last two days. Well, it rained yesterday and I’ve just been inside trying to take care of some things in here and I’ve been spending some time on the book.

Alan:  I put back that bunch that was printed up and were destroyed at the printers.

Jackie:  Oh good.

Alan:  I’ve got another set made up there.

Jackie:  Okay, now see I keep losing volume on you for some reason and you’re back again. It’s interesting. You just go real, real almost far away. Why don’t you give your address and tell the listeners how they can get the books.

Alan:  I’ve got three of them and I call them “Cutting Through” and you can imagine what I’m cutting through and it’s I, II and III.  [See www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com for ordering information.]

They go through the freemasonry aspect. They go through the historical aspect of the religious collusion with the different agencies and crowns and so on, and countries bringing us to where we are today and where they’re going from here, and it’s documented as much as possible. There’s no real speculation because it’s spelled out for you to follow.

The last bunch I had printed up they destroyed the copies and the master copies so I had to go through a whole bunch of paste-ups to try and put it all back together again.

Jackie:  But you did get it all back together.

Alan:  Yes I did, like Humpty Dumpty.

Jackie:  Although Humpty Dumpty wasn’t able to be put back together again.

Alan:  I know, I know. This was a job, I’ll tell you, but these things happen when you’re trying to write about things you don’t normally find in the bookstores.

Jackie:  Alan?One of the things from what I understand in freemasonry is that they’re supposed to revenge the death of Jacques de Molay. Well that’s recent. I mean what was that, about 500 years ago?

Alan:  No. Molay I think was in the 1300’s.

Jackie:  Oh, 1300’s.So about 700 years ago?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  But my point is that freemasonry has been around a lot longer than 1300 years.

Alan:  It was there under different names thousands of years ago.

Jackie:  Yes, but it wasn’t called freemasonry at the time?

Alan:  No. They always use the builders’ terminology because they build society. They build culture and then they change culture.

Jackie:  They build temples in men’s minds.

Alan:  That’s right. And of course the whole idea of masonry, Solomon’s Temple is the individual himself. They rebuild Solomon’s Temple, meaning they take the basic person and rebuild him and he becomes a holy temple as a fully-fledged freemason. These are all allegories and it’s all in the Old Testament too. It’s disguised under different stories and of course they didn’t invent it. It was on the go before, all the way back into Egypt and even into Sumer. It’s been here for thousands of years and freemasonry that was given to the general public or the middle classes in the 1700’s in Europe was a fairly new thing. They’d used primarily the nobility as the builders for thousands of years, but in the 1700’s they had to bring in a middle class to help manage the Industrial Revolution which they were putting society through as a plan. Therefore they had to give them a lesser form of masonry and so they created freemasonry for the middle classes and then for the lower classes eventually and also for the military.

The standing armies have traditionally always been Masonic. All of their drilling their marching and everything is all Masonic ritual, even if they don’t know it themselves, and pretty well every military base has a Masonic temple within it and when they go abroad they have a traveling lodge that goes with them. The British before the American Revolution started up various lodges and they planted the English lodge throughout America; Benjamin Franklin joined it. He was one of the first in his area to join it and he wrote about it and eventually when the British army came in they also brought the Orange Lodge with them as a traveling lodge and during the battles or after the battles Washington and different masons would cross the lines and share Masonic brotherhood with their supposed enemy the British in their lodges and sign their books. That’s the whole thing about freemasonry. When there’s battles or wars going on, if they give the Masonic signs to each other and the passwords, they’re true brothers and must help each other regardless of what side they’re on.

Jackie:  I saw a painting that was done depicting George Washington, the British Cornwallis and a couple of other of their probably higher-ups in the army in a tent during the Revolutionary War sharing tea and having a little chat, and this is while their “Revolutionary” war was going on. It was after Carol Valentine’s report that she did on the Noahide laws and she used – I saw the definition before but I didn’t understand it so I pretended it wasn’t there. The definition of a freemason is a Noahide and so I took that one paragraph and set it aside and said I want to do some more research on this and then I found a lot of information in an old book called “The Cause of World Unrest” and it was very telling, very telling. The connection if you would between what they call themselves Jews, the so called Jews and freemasonry–

Alan:  Well, every freemason becomes a Jew when they join.

Jackie:  They have to, Alan.

Alan:  No, it’s actually called that – to the public they call it an Entered Apprentice; to each other they call it the Jewish apprentice.

Jackie:  Do they really?

Alan:  The whole ritual is taken from the mythological Jews who joined. It wasn’t Jews actually. It was Hebrews at that point supposedly that joined the secret society of Hiram from Tyre. He came to help build the temple, which again is all allegory for the story, and he had a secret society with him; so these Tyrians or Phoenicians actually, they were a Phoenician group, and the king was Hiram supposedly came to Solomon and initiated some of Solomon’s own men into the secret society and that’s what it’s all based on. However, this is all mythological because as I say you can find the traces of the secret society 5,000 years before that. You’ll find it in very, very early Egypt and you’ll also find it within the writings of the priests of Sumer, so it’s been here for what we can call the beginning of civilization – which is the system. That’s what they mean by civilization: The system of rulership with a small learned class holding power over the people and religious classes who at that time acted as bureaucrats over the people and managed all the public affairs. That’s what they mean by civilization.

Jackie:  That’s exactly the way it is today.

Alan:  Yes. It’s their system. It’s never changed.

Jackie:  The police chiefs and a lot of the police, the politicians, the bureaucrats, they’re all freemasons.

Alan:  They’re all freemasons.

Jackie:  Supreme Court judges.

Alan:  Peter Wright was on trial during Margaret Thatcher’s era. He worked for MI5 and MI6 and he was so disgusted with what was happening within the organizations that he wrote a book called “Spycatcher.“  He tells you that when he was asked to come in as an expert in electronics, that’s why he came into it, he said that when he went to the small office where the records keeper basically. Very much like the James Bond movies with Miss Moneypenny was it? That same sort or type of secretary said to him “of course you must be a mason,” and he says, “no, I’m not.” She says, “wow” she says “everyone in this organization is a freemason” and so he let a lot out of the bag as he wrote that book “Spycatcher“.

Jackie:  Did you say he was on trial?

Alan:  Margaret Thatcher charged him with disclosing secrets of the realm, so he was charged with treason. His second book was “The A to Z of Spycatching” and that’s when she had him arrested; and in it and during the trial he did bring up the fact that Lord Rothschild of England, Victor Rothschild, who was one of the few members of the family who also did something else apart from banking. He was also a scientist and he was in charge of most of the military secrets of Porton Downs, the military establishment for bacterial and biological warfare, and Peter Wright alluded to the fact that the main spies who all defected from MI6 and MI5 to the Soviets had all been lodgers. They all boarded with Lord Rothschild and his wife in their early years, so he was bringing the connections forth that this Mr. Rothschild was passing the secrets on to the Soviets. Every time the head of MI5 got close to this truth he was immediately suspended or demoted and they put somebody else in place, so he let a lot of stuff out of the bag and Margaret Thatcher put Peter Wright on trial for disclosing all this information.

Jackie:  Did you say he wrote two books?

Alan:  Yes. “The “A to Z of Spycatching” when they arrested him. They didn’t put him in prison. They had to let him go but they did take all the books and they put them back in the pulp. The pulped them all back to pulp. He was disclosing the fact that Lord Rothschild was the head, he was “The Fifth Man” as they called it, this person who controlled these MI5 double agents in Britain and Victor Rothschild was the only contact with them all. What was more amazing was the fact that every bit of information that Victor Rothschild was given to do with any of their technology was immediately known to the Soviets and it could only have been through Victor Rothschild. There was another writer after Peter Wright wrote a book called “The Fifth Man” and in it he goes through a lot of this stuff about the Rothschild’s.

Jackie:  Is that book – was that pulped also?

Alan:  No. That one is available and I have it.”The Fifth Man” was the title of the book.

Jackie:  Where was it published, over in England?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Victor Rothschild –I want to ask you a question. Now Amschel, was he the first Rothschild?

Alan:  There was old Amschel.

Jackie:  So Victor was down the line a little ways.

Alan:  Yes. Victor was in the British army. He joined the British army during World War II as a bomb disposal expert and eventually was promoted up to the head of the scientific and development part of the military. Even after his name was connected to these MI5 agents that defected to the Soviets, these double agents, rather than kick Rothschild out he ended up in charge of all the British security forces. That’s what Peter Wright was so angry about. Why on earth would you put this guy who was a suspect in charge of all your security forces?  Until you figure it out that the whole thing is nonsense. There was no Cold War. The elite who ruled Britain created a fake enemy, the great bear in Russia and they created the Cold War and they had to make it very real to the public and even to a lot of the small players involved in it like Peter Wright himself. The fact was the Soviets couldn’t feed themselves from the beginning to the end. They couldn’t even make a good television set. They were supported totally by sales of grain from the U.S. and Canada right up until the very end.

Jackie:  I don’t think sales, Alan.

Alan:  I know, I know. We loaned them the money, which they could then buy the grain from us.

Jackie:  There was one thing. I read a book and this was very early on when I was first becoming involved and it was written by I can’t remember. He was a guy that ran for president. Anyway, he told in there about the export import banks and I had known about that but I didn’t know what it was and he explained it and used an example. When a private corporation for example loans money and he used an example of the Soviet Union and I forget what company it was – what bank. Probably a Rockefeller bank here that loaned the Soviets hundreds of millions of dollars to build the [Decoma] River Plant which was a plant that not only built trucks but all kinds of war machines, war vehicles. Well the export import is that the import export or whatever. I think I get it backwards all the time. Anyway, the reason it was set up was to guarantee loans that are made by private corporations to foreign countries if those foreign countries do not pay and so the export import bank our tax dollars reimbursed Rockefeller’s Chase Manhattan Bank hundreds of millions of dollars that went over to the Soviet Union to build war vehicles that in essence could be used against us. And you know I went to a town hall meeting while Dick Durbin was there, our U.S. Congressman, in Collinsville. Alan, talk about an early-on education, when he was taking questions I had the book there and it was a paperback and this guy’s name is escaping me of course. Anyway, I mentioned this and I said I’d like to know about this. I’d like you to comment on this that our tax dollars are being used dah-da-dah and he looked at me and he started talking and he wound all around me and I’m still standing because I’m waiting for him to respond to my questions and I’m telling you, he just somehow danced around me and the next thing you know he was calling on someone else and I was still standing there and I raised my hand while I was standing up and he pretended I was invisible. And do you know the thing is the thing that shocked me more than anything is that the people who were sitting there didn’t say wait a minute. Why don’t you answer this lady’s question? Respond to what she just said. Do you know what they wanted, the next lady that raised her hand? She wanted to know how come she couldn’t when she had to drive to Springfield to work she couldn’t count it as commute time and she wanted some bill passed that would allow her to deduct that on her income tax. I was in shock, Alan.

Alan:  That’s a good example though of the purpose of setting up the Soviet Union because it was the dialectic approach to a third way. First they created capitalism and then the other side of the coin was communism and then they blend the two together because they’ve socialized society. What Lenin said was when the politicians in the United States begin to discuss during elections social issues, to do with pensions, healthcare and so on, then they have been effectively socialized; and that would never have happened if it wasn’t for the supposed enemy across the sea there, the Soviet Union. That was its purpose; it was to make the people back home say well they better give them some benefits or they may revolt. This worked very, very well. The countries of the West are all socialized now.

Jackie:  Is there something in the Bible that says beware of the bear from the north?

Alan:  No. That was Nostradamus and it’s the same with the “yellow hordes.” That was Nostradamus too. It wasn’t the Bible.

Jackie:  I’ve told you this, when I was little I spent a lot of time listening to the adults conversations and I remember during I think it was after the war, World War II, but I remember some neighbor that use to spout the Bible all the time when they were sitting around having coffee and they were talking about Russia and she said that in the Bible – I thought she said the Bible. It says beware of the bear from the north and that that is Russia.

Alan:  You see, in the celestial sky towards the North Pole, you’ll see the Great Bear and that’s always been associated with Satan, that area.

Jackie:  Is that Ursa?

Alan:  There’s Ursa Major and Minor. Also in the Bible they make references to Satan living in the north, so that’s always been associated with the Great Bear.

Jackie:  I can remember walking to school worrying about whether or not we were going to be attacked by Russia.

Alan:  Fear is a fantastic method of controlling millions and millions of people because they look towards leadership to take care of things for them. It’s a natural tribal instinct, which these people at the top understand very well and they manipulate it to their advantage and they take advantage of the people all the time. That’s why we’re always in a constant state of crisis. There’s not been one generation who’ve lived in a time of peace from the beginning to the end of their life. Either financial chaos or war or both, but they keep us going up and down like yo-yos.

Jackie:  Yes and you know what I’d like you to do our last few minutes here? Comment, address that, how we can know this stuff and not be living in fear. Not be living in panic and know this stuff. Will you talk about that?

Alan:  The first thing is not to respond to it. I take it for granted that whatever comes out of the news, and I’ve got plenty of information to back this up, whatever comes out of the news is psychological warfare. It’s designed that way. It’s not new by the way. The news business was not taken over recently. It was set up like this. In the 1700’s in England–

Jackie:  I’m talking about the topics that we discuss on this broadcast, it could be very frightening to people.

Alan:  It can only be frightening if they take it to heart that what’s happening is all by chance. When you realize it’s all planned this way you begin to lose your fear, especially when you realize it’s always been this way. It’s a technique of controlling the peoples’ minds through fear; and once you realize that, you stop fearing them and of course you stop using their system. You stop voting even for them. Why would you vote for a corrupt system that’s always been corrupt?

Jackie:  Why would you vote when your vote doesn’t count anyway?

Alan:  Exactly, yes, so the thing is to take everything with not a pinch of salt but a mountain of salt because psychological warfare is nothing new. It’s been used on your grandparents and their predecessors too. It’s ongoing and it’s a technique to make you submit to powerful figures in the system so that they can get their way; and their way is always more for them, less for you and it’s a form of tyranny, which we now call democracy. And tyranny is tyranny. It doesn’t matter what they want to call it, what guise they give it. Stop giving your power to them. Stop worrying about the things they tell you to worry about and start thinking for yourself.

Jackie:  Yes and not only that, but knowing this. Knowing that it’s all by design. Like for example the aspartame in the food, to kill people, to reduce the population, et cetera. Do everything that we can. In other words, make choices of how we’re going to spend our time, Alan?

Alan:  Absolutely.

Jackie:  And are we going to go, oh, well I’m not going to garden because it’s too time consuming, and then are we going to eat their poison food and their genetically modified food that genetically modifies the body, or will we do what we can to live as naturally and free of their system as possible.

Alan:  Also, it takes every individual who knows this stuff to speak out about it to whoever they meet.

Jackie:  Exactly.

Alan:  They mustn’t be afraid to speak. When you’re afraid to speak the game is over.

Jackie:  Well, we’ll do this some more, won’t we, Alan?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  Thanks so much for being here tonight.

Alan:  It’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  Ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be back tomorrow night on time bearing any unforeseen incidents. Thank you for being here folks. God bless you. Good night Alan.

Alan:  Good night.

Alan Watt on

“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

July 25, 2005

Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Guess what? We’re on time tonight. Isn’t that a treat? It is for me and I suppose at least you’ll appreciate it. Today is Monday. Thanks for being here with us tonight. It is the 25th of July and it just seems like the whole month of July passed me by like it was never here. I don’t know about you, about the concept of time, it’s weird. Anyway, it is the 25th of July in the year 2005 and our guest this evening is Alan Watt once again. I’m very appreciative of Alan coming on with us. I’m having some kind of a problem with my printer and there’s information I’ve been wanting to share with you folks and I can’t get it out of the printer and Alan was kind enough to come on here and keep this broadcast rolling. Alan Watt, thanks for being here tonight.

Alan:  Yes, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie:  So how has it been with you and what’s up?

Alan:  Oh, just the very hot weather we’re getting up here and the spraying of course. They’ve announced that there’s going to be a storm tomorrow, so I watched them make it, spray it above me in preparation for the storm. That’s how down pat they have this.

Jackie:  So they’re actually calling for the weather tomorrow?

Alan:  Yes.

Jackie:  So you’re watching them prepare the skies for the weather that they’re calling for?

Alan:  That’s right. It’s quite something to watch them just go from east to west back and forth and lay on this odd looking – well, you’ve seen it. It’s like someone stuck their hand in candy cane and just pull out big strands of it in different directions and some of them are different, plus the trails they leave behind them are spreading much faster than they used to.

Jackie:  You’re talking like cotton candy, yes?

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  Cotton candy. They way they can wisp it out?

Alan:  Yes, and unlike normal clouds they go in all directions and have these long curling tails on them, so it’s like living in a science fiction movie and or maybe a horror movie, because like horror movies most of the people involved don’t know what’s happening to them. That’s the oddest thing about it.

Jackie:  I think I was telling you about this. I got an email and somebody was kind of doing an overview on all the stuff that’s going on, a quick one with the chemtrails, the food additives, the genetically modified food, the vaccines. All the new and unique and sometimes unseemingly untreatable diseases, designer diseases, and then at the end of it he says gosh it almost seems like someone is trying to kill us, doesn’t it?

Alan:  I mean chemicals that should not be there will make you ill. Anything that’s not naturally in nature especially in these concentrated doses will eventually affect everybody. There’s no getting away from it. It’s everywhere.

Jackie:  Yes, and the people that call you. You’ve talked to people from all over the country that so many of them or that the people that they know are having respiratory problems.

Alan:  Yes, frequent recurring too and some people are more prone to it than others as well, so it shows up on them more frequently and more obviously. A lot of people you know can carry these illnesses and pneumonias for even two or three years before it really hits them, but the older they get the more it takes it out of them and so the more obvious it is. However, the very young and the very elderly are coming down first, but it’s also affecting all age groups. Whether they smoke or not doesn’t matter and people who are prone to allergic responses are coming down with it too. This is affecting – in fact pharmacists across the country and from other people who’ve phoned me they talk to the pharmacist and I ask them to talk to the pharmacist and it’s like taking an informal study because the pharmacists are going great guns with antibiotics right now to cope with the bronchial infections.

Jackie:  Didn’t you suggest that people ask their pharmacists what is the most prescribed antibiotic today?

Alan:  The new one they’re dishing out by the handful or the bucket full is Vioxin. That’s a fairly recent one but I wouldn’t really use that except if nothing else works. It’s more expensive too than the regular antibiotics and because it’s fairly new I don’t think it has a generic supply yet. They have the patent for a while.

Jackie:  You’ll probably pay about $20 a pill for it.

Alan:  Yes, something like that, not far off actually with the dispensing fee. The next most commonly prescribed thing for people who never had this before are the bronchial inhalers for bronchial dilators for people normally who have asthma and now it’s being used for people who are developing asthmatic symptoms later in life and it’s due to these chemtrails.

Jackie:  Yes, there are young people. It isn’t just later in life because there are several friends that we have that I know their children are suddenly asthmatic and have never been asthmatic in their life.

Alan:  That’s happening more and more frequently. We’ll never get a complete study because I’m sure the government is keeping a lid on it. We know they’re keeping a lid on the fact that they’re even spraying. They won’t even talk about it but they’re collecting all the data, I’m sure. Another sort of informal study you can do is to inquire from undertakers what the most common cause of death is today and if their business is up, and it certainly is, and once again it’s persistent pneumonias. This is affecting everybody from north to south and east to west.

Jackie:  Gosh Alan, it sounds like somebody is trying to kill us, doesn’t it?

Alan:  No. That’s paranoid now, Jackie. They wouldn’t do anything to harm us.

Jackie:  I’m just a conspiracy theorist.

Alan:  Yes, they actually love us and they’re just helping the aliens to take care of us. But no, I mean not one single newscaster on regular media or a newspaper will even touch the subject, so they all know that it isn’t just losing their job perhaps. It’s maybe the fact they’ll never work again or it might even be more serious, but no one will touch the subject.

Jackie:  Well, they aren’t allowed to and even if they did, do you think the news is live – the news is precut, isn’t it?

Alan:  Yes it is. Everything is bits and bites and it’s all censored, edited. If you look at the end of the newscast, which most people don’t, just look at how many producers are there editors, sub-editors and so on who decide what’s to be left in and what’s to be read over the airwaves.

Jackie:  In other words, what you’re saying is the whole show is produced but you’ve got the one person sitting there live doing their scripting; because I was thinking if one of them dared to just come right out and tell the truth it wouldn’t even be aired, but maybe one of these days some brave person will just get up and say I can’t do this anymore right on the air right live. You know what I mean, Alan?

Alan:  It wouldn’t happen because there is no such thing today as actually live. They have at least 20 to 30 seconds delay.

Jackie:  Okay, that’s what I was wondering.

Alan:  And they’d switch to something else right away.

Jackie:  So it couldn’t happen.

Alan:  Everybody is being watched you know.

Jackie:  Well, I got an email not too long ago and allegedly, you don’t know this but it was somebody who said that it was a friend of theirs who worked for one of the networks and she said – this is referencing the past presidential election and you know there was next to nothing in the news about all the vote scam that went on all over the country but actually it was the state of Ohio where it was just totally out of this world. In other words, in one precinct using this as an example. Let’s say they had 85,000 people voting when maybe there were only 30,000 registered voters in that precinct. It was just out of this world and I remember watching that night. I flipped it on just before I went to bed and this Ken Blackwell who’s the Secretary of State there in Ohio, he was saying it’s going to be at least 10 days before we can get the vote in and da-da-da and the next morning they were calling up for Bush and you know what I found out? I’ve been doing some research on JINSA, that’s Jewish Institute for National Security something. Okay. JINSA. It’s a Jewish organization and they’ve got this board of advisers and I was looking at the board of advisers. Ken Blackwell is one of the JINSA board of advisers. I think between JINSA and APAC they’ve got the U.S. government pretty well tied up. I mean APAC controls the Congress because of their large amounts of money; they can get rid of a congressman if they want to and JINSA is the adviser and so many of the people that are part of JINSA – in fact Cheney used to be on the board of advisers. Wolfowitz, I think it was in 2003 he was given the Man of the Year Award by JINSA and they come right out in their mission statement in their program and talk about that basically what their function is is to work hand-in-hand with the U.S. and Israel for the protection of Israel.

Alan:  These are huge lobby groups as well with tremendous funding.

Jackie:  They’ve got a whole bunch of retired military admirals, majors, et cetera on their advisory board. It’s really pretty sick. But you know what? At least – I don’t know. It gives you a sense at least – not more than a sense. It takes away any doubt whatsoever that the U.S. government is totally under the control of these creatures.

Alan:  I think the U.S. government was maybe set up for this very purpose. I always think of the symbols of the U.S. from the beginning, actually before the beginning, all the Masonic symbols are so open. They’re ancient symbols going way back to Sumer actually through Egypt with the eagle, the symbol of Manasseh with holding the arrows in one hand and the olive branch in the other. Of course you’ve got 13 fruit and 13 arrows in the U.S. one and the Rothschild family has the same symbol with 5 fruit and 5 arrows for the 5 sons of Rothschild but it’s the same part of the coat of arms.

Jackie:  And there was the 13 original colonies.

Alan:  That’s right and before that, I’ve got an old book from the early 1800’s with the coinage and the tokens they were using for money prior to the revolutionary war.

Jackie:  In the colonies?

Alan:  In the colonies and this stuff about FDR putting the Great Seal or putting the pyramid on the money with the All-Seeing Eye on the pyramid, this was done before the Revolutionary War because if you check into the tokens that they were using and the money they were using prior to that in the colonies you will see the same thing there. They were using the pyramid and the All-Seeing Eye prior to 1776.

Jackie:  Yes well Alan, the chapters of the book that I have been working on so diligently for the past week and a half. Maybe it’s been two weeks. I don’t know. I’ve just lost time. It’s chapters 16, 17 and 18 and they’re already to go over to Darrin. In fact, I’ve got them sitting there just ready to send over. This is exactly what was addressed in these chapters. Well actually chapter 16 turned into three of them because first we were looking at the connection between the Talmud and the freemasons, the Jews and the freemasons. I mean it just leaves no room for doubt and then the question came into my mind actually after I finished chapter 12 of the book about the Revolutionary War because they constantly take claim – they brag that every single revolution that they were behind, so I got to looking into that and there is absolutely no doubt that it was orchestrated and pulled off and paid for this Hyam Solomon that is the big hero of the revolution. There’s one of the bios on him from I think it’s called Wikipedia. It’s an encyclopedia online. Well Wicca or something like that. I thought of what you said about Wicca. But anyway, they come right out and say that he went over to France and got money from the Rothschild’s to finance the Revolutionary War and in so many ways how they were involved in this and one of the pieces that I was excerpting from said that when the Declaration of Independence was written it was sent to Holland via St. Eustatius. I think it’s St. Eustatius or something like that. It was an island where the Jews had developed a stronghold and they were supplying et cetera–

Alan:  Gunpowder was coming in too.

Jackie:  That’s right. But here’s what it said, that the Declaration of Independence was sent to Holland via the Jews from St. Eustacia. And that it was stopped by an English ship and confiscated and that the Declaration of Independence had a letter along with it that was explaining the document and it was in Hebrew. The letter was in Hebrew and then I found a piece on the French Revolution and that was the last thing I added to chapter 18. Well I started doing some research on Lafayette, I got wondering about that guy. That was the French – he entered the war. He was a wealthy Frenchman came over, he actually according to the bio purchased a ship and put together a bunch of – I guess they were revolutionaries. Actually, they didn’t call them that. But Lafayette was a Freemason and he was the Grand Master of the Grand Orient Lodge until his death. He came over here and helped whip the colonists into fighting shape along with his revolutionaries that he brought with him. Then he goes back to France and then of course Benjamin Franklin was the Ambassador to France for five years after that, so was Thomas Jefferson, and it said that after he went back to France he kept very close contact with brother Benjamin Freedman and then Thomas Jefferson and then it proceeded to say that – I forget the words they used. Basically, he helped to foment the Russian Revolution and actually fought in it and then again in 18 – maybe it was 31, I can’t remember the exact date. He actually led a revolution to take down the Bourbons, so this was an international revolutionist.

Alan:  It was international. Albert Pike wrote about it.Albert Pike said at that time in the 1800’s, he said that we are behind revolutions. He didn’t mince words about it and he said that we never begin a premature revolution. In other words, they do all their groundwork first. It takes years to set up. They train the people to do exactly what they’re to do. They go over every possible scenario that could occur and ways to defeat oppositions long before it even begins and he said that’s why they’re so able to pull it off; and then Pike trained Giuseppe Mazzini, which is just Josef Mason. That’s what it means. Mazzini is Mason, and he became the head of the World Revolutionary Party in Italy and that became the communist party Lenin took over from Mazzini. This was a continuous thread right through the Scottish Rite of Freemason from Charleston in the States.

Jackie: In the book that I excerpted from in chapter 16 was titled “The Cause of World Unrest” and it did mention that letter that Mazzini allegedly wrote and how they said that they were going to loose the nihilists and the atheists. I mean the bloody terror that they were going to cause and it all has happened that way. And the thing that’s amazing to me, I found this piece on the French Revolution and in 1789 which is of course when the treasonous U.S. Constitution was being ratified here during the French Revolution or just before it – anyway, they came up with what they called the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizens, okay. Well, guess who wrote that? Well, in the first place, this article and I excerpted this and is the last part of chapter 18 the article said if you look at article 1 of the French Declaration and you look at article 1 of the UN Resolution you see that they’re almost identical, and Alan, they were. I went and looked them up and put them in there and then so I’m reading this French Declaration and then you get down to the bottom and it says the above document was written by Major, General or whatever, Lafayette and his good friend and neighbor Thomas Jefferson. So there we are and of course they said a lot of it was based on the Declaration of Independence. Well, who wrote the Declaration of Independence? It wasn’t Thomas Jefferson. His name was put to it, but when you’ve got the same damn language from back in the 1700’s right up to 1948 and the UN is the same creatures with the same plan.

Alan:  There’s no doubt this has been an old plan that’s been worked down through the centuries to get to total control and it’s a scary kind of future they envisaged because it is total control. They don’t believe in individual freedom. They believe in the collective and they also under the guise of – because they use communism of course to the extreme because the final system, which we see right now in fact, has a fascist elitist group at the top with a massive bureaucracy running the common people under a communistic system, socialist system. It’s a combination of the two and Lenin himself said there are three explanations to describe communism. He says there’s one for the workers, which is very simple because they must get the workers behind them for revolution sake and they will think that it’s going to give them equal rights and so on. Then there’s one for the middle management level, which is more detailed in the scientific socialism which is very important. Then of course there’s actual real ones at the top who understand the agenda and that is for those who deserve to rule the world have the right because of their superior intellect, they have the right to manage the lives of every single individual on the planet.

Jackie:  Wasn’t Voltaire somebody that has been pushed out there like a great?

Alan:  Voltaire – just like today they use a lot of writers and novelists and so on because most ideas are put across through fiction because your guard is down and you enjoy the book and you don’t realized you’re being programmed along a certain way. Voltaire initially was from Switzerland. A lot of them came from Switzerland, these revolutionaries. Voltaire was groomed by a woman in Switzerland, a very wealthy woman. He had to leave there eventually because he was caught three or four times exposing himself in the streets to children and so they took him to France and eventually Benjamin Franklin took over as the Grand Master of the French Orient Lodge and he initiated Voltaire into the society.

Jackie:  Yes he did. I read about that – and this was right from the Grand Lodge, The Ancient and Accepted da-da-da from Scotland, and it was a piece on freemasonry. It told about all these wonderful people like George Washington and Benjamin Franklin and Voltaire and Lafayette. It told all their names. But anyway, it told in there that – I think Voltaire was in his 70’s according to this when he was initiated into the higher degrees and that brother Benjamin Franklin did the rites and everything and then Voltaire touched the lambs wool, the apron to his lips with tears in his eyes.

Alan:  That’s right. When he did that with his apron, I guess he exposed himself again.

Jackie:  I guess he would have, wouldn’t he?

Alan:  There was so many perverted people in these societies towards the top and of course the ones down below don’t know that but they are very perverted and it’s almost as though they’re selected for that. People who have a grudge against society or they’re personally an outcast because of their preferences are used to promote the agenda through writing and today it’s movies and so on, but this is an old technique. Benjamin Franklin also belonged to the Hellfire Club in England outside London High Wycombe and it’s an interesting name, High Wycombe, from Wicca, you see, and they had the riotous orgies there. The odd thing was during the Revolutionary War when Franklin was over in France, he traveled there every other month to London and he got into London – no one stopped him. You think he’d be arrested, but he was allowed to come and go into London and attend these orgies at the Hellfire Club and of course the actual Hellfire Club itself is still standing today and they had about five years ago in the British newspapers they renovated it and they did take up the floor boards and they found the remains of I think it was five or six babies.

Jackie:  Oh, they were doing sacrifices.

Alan:  They were either doing that – but they were doing more than that. They were doing selective breeding because every High Masonic club at that time had a type of brothel attached.

Jackie:  All right, listen. Hold the thought. Don’t lose your train of thought because we have to take our break. Ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be right back with Alan Watt. And please don’t lose your train of thought there. The babies and the selective breeding.

All right, we’re back with Alan Watt, and folks, those of you who listen regularly are very aware that Alan has written three books. His third one is now being delivered and I’m going to have Alan explain a little bit about the books and give you his address for those of you who would be interested. The reason I see these as so critical is that Alan gives us a lot of ancient history and as he’s said over and over again that the same things happen down through the ages and for me and I believe that. I didn’t disbelieve it at all.

But Alan, I was explaining this to you. The research that I’ve done and all of the connections that have been made and that there can be no denying that what you said about the U.S. being founded to bring in the final plan of the New World Order, the world they’ve planned for world dominion. With all the information that I’ve discovered there can be no denying it and there’s something different about believing it and actually knowing it and it’s sort of like taking a magnifying class just to one little piece of history going back 200 years. When you see the plan besides the writers and the producers and the directors and the actors and all of the intrigue and all of the machinations, you realize that this same plan with the same type of activity – it’s like a pattern that has gone on throughout the ages right up to today all over this whole planet and your books take us way back there and help us literally to get out of the forest so we can see the trees. I guess that’s what it is. That’s what I wanted to say about that. If there’s anything else that you want to say, you go ahead.

Alan:  Both Franklin and Jefferson made the same statement in their memoirs and they both said that the federation or the confederation of the United States would lead to a confederation of the world, of the nations, under one government run by 12 wise men. The 12 wise men of course in the Cabala is the perfect number of government. These guys were steeped in Cabalistic teachings.

Jackie:  In Hyman Solomon’s – one of his bios that I read they said that it has been said that he actually he wrote the Declaration of Independence which is hogwash too and that he designed the Great Seal of the U.S. and that he always knew that America would be a world – an empire or something like that.

Alan:  That’s why of course Wolfowitz and the rest of these boys in that club have said that this is the New American Century. They say there must be an empire. There’s always been a world empire leader and they are the new world empire leader, so they’ve almost achieved their goals.

Jackie:  Yes they have and you know I’ve thought about that with the John Birch Society’s magazine “The New Americans.”  I wonder if that’s a code for them for New America, the New American Century.

Alan:  Birch is a Masonic term.

Jackie:  Birch was a Mason.

Alan:  Birch, Ash, Icke – Icke is oak in German. He’s oak, you see, which is higher than the birch, and so they use these trees for specific designations and it’s a warning to all masons what they are. Masons always have their little clue there through the names of societies and so on.

Jackie:  You know the Birch Society reprinted [Berule’s] book. What the heck was the name of that book? You know Abby Berule, the Secret Societies or whatever and in the preface of the book they had said that freemasonry is no longer – it’s now benign. In other words, there’s no power left in the freemasonry. Welsh. That was his name, right?

Alan:  That’s right.

Jackie:  Welsh. What kind of a name is that?

Alan:  Again, it’s not from Britain, put it that way. It’s not Welsh, it’s Welch, ‘ch.’  A lot of these names are abbreviated. They compact them. You’ll hear the name Baruch who was the banker. Now a lot of them of the same name compacted it down to Birk (Burke, Burk), for instance; so Welch is like Wel-loch or Wel-lash and so they compact it down – that’s what they do with a lot of these names.

Jackie:  Are you having a storm there?

Alan:  Not yet. They’re still spraying. It’s building up to it though.

Jackie:  I just heard almost cracking like lightning.

Alan:  There may be further south.

Jackie:  Tell our listeners about your books and they can get them.

Alan:  Yes. There’s three of them and I call them Cutting Through and there’s I, II and III. [See www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com for ordering information] and I’ll get it back to you as soon as I can.

Jackie:  And you do recommend if they’re only getting one book and they don’t have the first one they should get the first one first?

Alan:  Yes. I lead them through the Masonic steps and leading up to the final one, which is a lot of ancient history to do with the same takeover techniques with the money boys and so on in ancient times through what records remain and you can see how incredibly precise this high masonry is. There’s nothing slipshod about it. It’s a science. A definite science, so much so, that your whole language as been created and masonically encoded in the 1500’s when they updated English from the old German Saxon to what we call English today and Francis Bacon who helped to do that and he talked about it. He said, “we are creating the international language of the future which will be called English.” They had a whole team of priests basically working on the creation of the English language and Shakespeare worked with them too, and Shakespeare through his plays introduced – I can’t remember how many thousands of words, over I think 100,000 new words, into the English language. Basically, they created the English language.

Jackie:  Why are they making a big deal today about everybody having to learn Spanish like here in the U.S.?

Alan:  It’s simply for the U.S. to have more friction. They’re building up internal friction within the United States on purpose and then they’ll pass laws which are coming down on everyone and then they’ll come out with all the solutions to it. They’ve done the same in Canada. They have French and English. They’ve tried this in different countries so they know how to create friction very easily.

Getting back to the Hellfire Club, in the 1700’s and right up to today in some very high clubs they have brothels attached to them. Now these weren’t normal brothels in the usual sense; they did have women who worked “regularly” you might say, but they also had the higher prostitutes who were very high-class prostitutes with certain genetic lines in their blood basically, in their genes; and the Hellfire Club when Franklin was a member, the top one there was Madame Bouvier.

Jackie:  That was related to Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy?

Alan:  That’s right. In fact, there’s two of them still alive today, two of the Bouvier’s in France, two sisters. They were highly sought after and if you could serve the system well of Masonry to further the revolutionary cause towards global governance by this intellectual elite or you contributed to science—that’s why they all try to get their names in the science books—then you were allowed to mate with one of these high women, and the offspring then was trained and brought up as a tongue-in-cheek “orphan.” The “window’s son” they call it, and he would be trained for high office either in bureaucracy or politics. This still goes on today and there’s talk even that Bill Clinton was one of these and that his father was one of the Rockefellers but his mother definitely was a high-class Madame Bouvier type who went to the very wealthy parties all over Europe and America.

Jackie:  Oh, she wasn’t the lowly maid?

Alan:  Oh, no. No. She went to very expensive parties and traveled extensively.

Jackie:  You know I was wondering about this Lafayette. In his bio they said that his father died when he was two years old and that 11 years later his mother and grandfather died leaving him immensely wealthy and he was trained at the military school there and by the age of 16 I mean he was a professional solider. It made me wonder when the mother and grandfather died 11 years later if it was a natural death, or an accident, or were they taken out of the picture so their minion could have that kind of wealth.

Alan:  Well, it’s that and it’s also to cover the fact that they have brought up these children with one training and that’s the expertise in martial war. Napoleon was also raised for that exact same purpose and when they came out with the first Declaration of Rights in France, they also said that we think that a man may come out of Corsica—where Napoleon was born and raised. A man might come out of Corsica and lead the revolution to glory; and of course Napoleon came along and he was steeped from the age of five onwards in nothing but warfare and warfare techniques. They train them specially for their function in life. It’s quite fascinating.

Jackie:  I thought he came in after the revolution.

Alan:  Yes, he did but the revolution was failing. The “mountain” as they call it, the old masons, the older elders, they formed a huge part of the government. They were always arguing with the younger ones and Napoleon stepped in and took it over and he literally didn’t change just France. He changed every country that he went into.

Jackie:  Well, he must have ticked them off because they vilified him.

Alan:  They vilified him in one sense, but in another sense he did much more. He did what he was supposed to do. He helped unify other countries into larger countries. That’s part of the ongoing war program is to – like the Soviet Union did. They took all these small countries and incorporated them and then gave them exact same system of money, education, bureaucracy and so on, until you couldn’t really tell them apart. Napoleon did help to unify a lot of the countries, small, tiny countries into larger ones, and that lead up of course to the first world war, step-by-step, it’s all going in the same direction. Now you have a United Europe, which was also Napoleon’s dream and it was also Winston Churchill’s dream. That was part of it. Karl Marx talked about a United Europe, a Pacific Rim conglomerate and a United Americas, and he wrote about that in the 1840’s and said they’d all be under a super world government. This is nothing new. It’s all been put out there. It’s just isn’t taught much, if at all, in schools. However, the books are there in the universities. It’s an ongoing process and the United States is simply finishing off the task, and as it finishes off the task its standards of living must come down to meet those of the rest of the world which is being leveled.

Jackie:  They’re leveling the playing ground, the playing field.

Alan:  See, a country which cannot feed itself, number one, and the farming basically is going right out the window in Canada and the States. It can’t feed itself. It has no industry to even rearm if they had to by themselves, is no longer a nation really. In other words, they’re helpless, so they need the international system now.

Jackie:  There was somebody evidentially on the Fox New Network and I don’t know who it was but I did get the email and the interview and I skimmed it and this yo-yo said on Fox News that he’s expecting within 90 days something very – another terrible attack on the U.S. I don’t know if it had something – by the way, there is an article and I checked it out myself from the Navy Times. The title of the article was “Uncle Sam Wants You Even if You’re 42 Years Old” and that was the article from the Navy Times. I went and got it and then there was I think New York Times article and said that the Pentagon was calling for raising the age on recruiting to age 42.

Alan:  They had a blurb on one of the newscasts that they’d actually taken in undertakers – recruited them, called them into duty and I think they were close to the age of 60.

Jackie:  Undertakers, that would be to take care of all the dead bodies?

Alan:  Yes. The U.S. according to the BBC and CBC in Canada is having a tough enough job just policing Iraq and they want to go into Iran, Syria and so on, so they must have trouble in all the other countries that are going to help them to motivate them to help them. That’s why you’re having all this trouble in London and so on. If you were a true terrorist you would sit back because Tony Blair and his cabinet were ready to get kicked out of parliament after all the inquiries which were out in the open and about all the lies that he told to get the public to go along with the war. He was on his way out and then the week following the bombing was scheduled to be mass demonstrations in the streets against the ID card and why would the terrorists go and help Tony Blair?  Because off go the bombs, he’s back up on the podium again and “we’re here to protect you.” He’s in charge. He’s the man of the moment and out goes the ID. The public are getting it.

Jackie:  The real ID like we’ve got here?

Alan:  It’s the same company that’s manufacturing it for the world and it’s an active chip inside it and you must carry it at all times and it has your health on it and everything. Plus, it will be used they have said for your bank card as part of the cashless society. That’s out in the open over there, so they’ll monitor everyone’s transactions. This is total observation.

Jackie:  There’s a piece there titled “New Order of the Barbarians.”  I’ve talked about it before. In fact, a long time ago I read most of it to our listeners and this insider Dr. Richard Day – this was back in the early or mid-60’s speaking to a group of pediatric physicians in Pittsburgh was telling how they were going to bring all of this about. It is absolutely amazing. Dr. Lawrence Dunegan who I believe just recently passed away was a pediatrician, one of the attendees and Dr. Day told them that several years ago he wouldn’t have been able to tell them what he was going to tell them that night. But he said everything is in place and nothing can stop us now. We are going to go in to the 21st century with a running start he said and this time we’re going to get it right and he goes into detail about what they’re going to do. That’s what sparked this thought in my mind, Alan, about the cashless society and how they’ll do it and how close a track they’ll be keeping and when you read this you will have no doubt that this was told by an insider. It wasn’t somebody who made it up. He even talked about the people who believed that they could run and hide. Maybe go out and live in the woods or something. He said we’ll burn the forests down and what the heck are they doing today, Alan?

Alan:  I know. The Ministry of Natural Resources had a documentary on with the Forestry Commission and it’s so interesting. I always laugh at the theories as they swap from a complete opposite theory and the opposite becomes the new norm and now the guy who use to fight the fires – the new theory is that they should set the fires. Of course, British Columbia had over 3,000 fires last year and a lot of people lost their homes in it and the ministry is now starting these supposed control burns, which have the habit of getting out of control. That is the new norm now. I noticed that none of the animal rights activists are even talking about this, which doesn’t surprise me, because think of all the animals that are getting killed and roasted in these fires.

Jackie:  And part of the insanity as I recall. This was quite a few years ago in California and some people were burning brush around their homes to make a firewall and these people were fined because there was some kind of a mouse that lived in that kind of brush. These people were actually fined for setting the fires that literally wound up protecting their home from the forest fires; and yet, like you said, they’re burning all these forests down and many animals with it and these animal-loving organizations aren’t saying a damn word.

Alan:  They’re willing fools and it’s only their leaders who know the real agenda, but the willing fools are just another class of sheep just like religious people. They do what their leaders tell them and that’s why they’re not protesting. Their leaders, just like the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union was run by NGOs, primarily women, and I’ve got that first-hand from a lot of people from the Soviet Union and they were all handpicked by the politburo all the leaders of these NGOs and it’s exactly the same here. The Rockefeller Foundation I know for a fact because one woman works for them and her job is to write checks to these NGOs. That’s all she does. Thousands of checks and the Rockefeller Foundation is backing most of them and along with that comes the Rockefeller policy. If you accept the money, accept the policy.

Jackie:  And the NGOs in one of the UN’s writing that I have, they’re talking about the UN becoming a true world parliament and that the only thing that was missing was the voice of the people and then basically what it came down to is that the NGOs are the voice of the people and to use an example of that the – oh, what the heck is it? The business. Gee, everybody joins it.

Alan:  Rotary club.

Jackie:  No. When you own a business. Oh shoot. I went through this the other day talking about this with somebody and the name escaped me. It’s local. Chambers of Commerce, Alan.It’s one of the oldest NGOs. It’s international and of course then it’s national and then of course it’s state and then it’s local and I was a member of the Chamber of Commerce for years when I owned my business, until I found out that they were promoting the NAFTA and I was beginning to wake up and I got out of it. But when you think about the millions of people who were members of the Chamber of Commerce and there’s the Chamber of Commerce at the international level speaking out for all of the UN programs. They take this. That all of the millions of people that are members of the Chamber of Commerce, the chamber is speaking for those people and that’s the parliament of the people are the NGOs.

We are out of our hour. Alan, thank you. You know what? I don’t know. Maybe you’ll come back tomorrow night. You know what entered my mind as you were talking was the hermaphrodite when you mentioned women and we had a conversation about that and I think it would be very interesting for our listeners and so maybe we could pick that up tomorrow night.

Alan:  Sure.

Jackie:  Okay, thanks. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here and God bless you and have a lovely evening, folks. Have a nice day tomorrow. Alan, thank you. Good night.

July 26, 2005
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.  Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  It is Tuesday.  It is the 26th of July, in the year, 2005.  I hope you had a nice day, folks.  It was up in the high 90s here today, and I don’t know, the humidity, it felt like about 140%, but we had a storm this evening, but it seems to have cooled off and that’s a blessing.  We talk about the weather a lot, don’t we?  We just, well, it is the weather, whether we like it or not.  Basically, that’s what it is.  Because it’s being controlled and modified, and they’re causing, the controllers are causing a lot of problems for people, besides health problems, destroying the farms, and just probably having fun with their little game.  Anyway, Alan is back with us tonight.  We were, just before we went off the air last night, he had mentioned something that sparked a conversation that we had had.  I thought it was very intriguing and I thought that you folks would like to hear what, we’ve talked about this before somewhat, that the Plan, if you would, the Ultimate Plan, according to what Alan says, is to actually recreate, literally recreate the physical human body, and simply have unisex, a unisex individual, a hermaphrodite.  I guess that’s, I don’t know if you would call it unisex or what.  Alan, what would you call it?

Alan Watt:  It’s the end product of supposedly the next Great Leap Forward, which is to create two in one.

Jackie: Yeah, would you call that unisex?

Alan: In a sense, in a sense it will be a true bisexual, you know.

Jackie: A true one because it will have both female and male organs.  We talked about that.  Well, when we were talking the other night and you got talking about this, what they’re already capable of doing, can we kind of repeat that conversation?

Alan: It’s the oddest thing, when you go back into ancient history, and Plato for instance talked about, now these are allegories for something to come rather than something that was.  So he refers to the deity or the creator or the god that they secretly worshiped, the aristocracy of Greece and he refers to it as being both male and female, male in the front, and female behind.  And it’s almost a joking way of putting it across that rather than walk, the thing actually sort of rolls or handstands and that’s how it moves, and the way that he continued this conversation was to say that eventually the deity separated the male from the female, but not all of them he said were male and female.  He said, sometimes it was a male in front and a male behind.

Jackie: What does that mean, a male in front and a female behind?

Alan: Well, that’s what he was saying, was that they weren’t all male and females.  Some of them were male both ways.  And he was using this allegory for the fact that so many Greek aristocracy, well, most of them actually were homosexual, and he said they were looking for their soul mates.  And so he used a story to validate their lifestyle you might say.  So, he said, that’s why the aristocracy was actually involved in pedophilia really.  Because they were searching out their soul mates.  And of course, the nobility, including Plato himself.

Jackie: And the soul mate would be male?  Yes?

Alan: That’s what he was getting at.  And the Greek nobility shared an awful lot in common with the Egyptian nobility in that they all believed in reincarnation, but they also believed that the spirit or the soul, the soul itself.  There’s a big, big difference between the soul and spirit according to Plato.  But the soul itself was not gender neutral.  It actually was male or female.  So they believed they came back each time as males, you see.  And because the other parts that would split off from them, eons before that, was what they were searching for, and supposedly that gave them the right to have sexual, well, interaction with young boys.  The odd thing again, when you jump from that even to the writings in the Talmud and in Jewish folklore which comes from much, much older cultures, they also believe the same thing, that the deity was both male and female, therefore he made Adam in the same image, the perfect likeness, the perfect sameness, meaning that Adam was initially both male and female, and that the real fall came when the female was separated out of Adam.

Jackie: Well, it says in there, male and female created he them.  And I’ve always wondered, you know, what that particularly meant.  Created he them.  Male and female.

Alan: And of course, it’s in translation you start to see the differences.  In the actual Greek, the word that’s used for this perfect sameness is imago or image.  And that actually comes from the term which you use to describe the shell of an insect.  When you open the shell of an insect, the cocoon, you have the perfect image inside that cocoon of the creature that lived inside of it.  And so, in other words, the initial Adam was the perfect sameness as the deity, meaning that he also had the same powers and everything.  And then the female was separated eventually from him, and that’s when he lost his power.  However, in all Masonry, and pre-Judaic, pre-Hebrew, this was already accepted in the Egyptian culture and in the Greek, ancient Greek culture, was that when Eve was separated, or the female was separated, the male retained the spirit, and the female simply retained the right to reproduce her own kind on the earth.  And that’s still true of higher Masonry today.  That’s why Albert Pike, and Mackay and others all said that the female can only reflect like the moon, she can only reflect her husband’s glory, who is the sun.  He has spirit.  That’s what it means.

Jackie: That sounds like a friend of mine, during the time we were campaigning for Bo Gritz.  He was one of those hellfire and brimstone guys, and he loved Paul and the Old Testament, and he called himself a Christian.  And he was a divorcee, and he said to me one day, it was a shame that, no, no, that was about me, it was a shame that so many good people are going to go to hell.  But he was talking about his wife and daughter, he said, God is no longer in that home.  And when I asked him what he meant, he said the male is the Godhead, and when I left that home, God left.  And let me tell you, what’s really pathetic about it, he said it not as if he really believed that, that he would be in pain for his wife and daughter, but he said it in a real, holier than thou and superior attitude, like he thought it was cool.

Alan: Well this is an ancient belief.  As I say, Masonry today has simply adopted a much older religion or mystery religion that flows through all the ancient cultures and the aristocracies, right, as I say, back to Egypt and even back to Sumer.  So, this is an ancient, ancient belief, hidden belief in the secret societies, which still is ongoing today, that that’s the big secret, that Eve basically has no spirit.  She is mother, which is matter.  I mean, even the language supports this belief system, so she can only reproduce matter, whereas the male is the initiator of life, the female then takes over and reproduces.  But her world is the world of matter.  That’s what they believe, mother/matter, you know, so that’s why again women in the Eastern Star are fooling themselves and all the other, many, many branches of female side degrees, that were put in there simply to get the females on board as they say.  Pike and Mackay and others all state that.  Plus the Quatuor Coronati Lodge in England, which is the main historical lodge of research for Masonry, they all say the same thing, that these are simply show degrees, and don’t contain the secrets.  Getting back to the hermaphrodite, it’s so odd that all priesthoods down through the ages have taken the same route of primarily recruiting males.

Jackie: The what males?

Alan: They’ve taken to recruiting mainly males to be priests.  It wasn’t until the Protestant so-called Revolution, which wasn’t their revolution at all, it was already planned by the same side.  There’s only one side in everything.  And that’s when they started bringing the families you might say, the male and the female into the church.  But even so, it’s still retained by the male, all the authority within the church.  Or at least it used to be, you know.  In the Catholic Church it still holds to that effect, and of course, in most other cultures, such as the Muslim and so on, it’s still, the reins of power are still in the muftis, the priests.

Jackie: Yeah.  You know what I heard, that is probably so, when God created man, she was only kidding.

Alan: Well, sometimes I wonder, because it certainly seems to be a joke, you know.

Jackie: Yeah, it’s a joke.

Alan: No, this is an ancient goal, was to reach perfection as they say.

Jackie: Well, these are weirdos, Alan.  I mean, we’re talking about some real weirdos here, let’s face it.

Alan: Yet they’re weirdos with the power and the system based on money.

Jackie: To bring their dream about.  Yeah, well what I’m saying though is that, just because it’s such an ancient held belief, I’m not saying that it isn’t a possibility that in “the beginning” when they were first genetically engineering the human body, maybe there were hermaphrodites, but where this thing about the soul comes in, I mean, that’s just idiocy.  We’re dealing here with some real idiots.  And I don’t mean idiots in the manner of not being educated, or being stupid.  I mean, they’re idiots.  They’re out of this world, Alan.

Alan: Well, you can certainly have idiots, but the problem is that they’re idiots with power and that’s scary.

Jackie: They are.  You bet it is.  Idiots with power.

Alan: And when you go, again, going back to the ancient mystery religions, like the Roman equestrian order, that was the high nobility order, they had so much in common with what we think of as the Old Testament, which is just a conglomeration of the Mystery Religion, as it already existed in all different peoples.  The equestrian order used to pitch a roofless tent in a field, and the novices would come in there for their initiation, and they did, definitely, have sexual, anal intercourse with what was then the Grand Master.  And then, when you jump forward to the Knights Templars you find the same thing was charged against them.  They were indulging in sexual intercourse with each other, and that is validated by a lot of different sources, including John Dee, who did his best to cover up for them.  But he did say that was one of the main charges which could not be denied, and we must remember, they were also a priesthood.  They were a priesthood, and that was quite common amongst priesthoods, you know.  So, what you find is, here’s an interesting statement the Dalai Lama made, when he was asked, not too long after he’d moved out of Tibet in the ’50s, and went to Europe, he was asked what he thought of homosexuality.  And he started to answer in the traditional Tibetan cultural stance, and then he checked himself, to realize that he was now in a new country with different views.  And he said, well, if it doesn’t break the vows of chastity, then it isn’t sexual intercourse at all.  In other words, to everybody’s way of thinking, sexual intercourse is traditionally between male and female, therefore it doesn’t exist, whatever men do amongst men is a different thing altogether.  And that was the traditional excuse down through the ages amongst all male priesthoods.  So, in other words, it’s the old story of changing perspective by the use of different words.  And that’s very, very common.  But the Knights Templars in their different statements, in different countries, did say the same thing, that they were sworn as brothers to alleviate each other’s sexual needs.  So all this hoopla about the wonderful Knights Templars and the Red Cross on their chest and they were heroes, we have to really look at it as it was.  It was vastly different from the way it’s portrayed in Hollywood.  It was a priesthood first, and they were warriors, second.  It was a priesthood.

Jackie: Don’t they mention, don’t they mention in the Old Testament the dog priests?

Alan: That’s right.  But all of the cultures, that’s what you’ll find in all the histories of all the peoples, the same organization existed everywhere.  And they traditionally in all temples, and Israel was no exception.  At least the Israel that we know of did exist for about 500 to 400BC, it was no exception, and the archaeologists have proved it.  When you went to the temple, affixed to the temple at the front door, there was always the hall of prostitutes, where you would go in and have ritual intercourse, generally with a prostitute.  That was the generative power.  That was part of the process.

Jackie: A female, you mean?

Alan: A female.  But they also saw one on the other side of the main entrance, and that has a male standing there.  So it led off there for the males, if you wanted a male instead.  And that was the same in all, in Egypt, in Greece, all over.

Jackie: Well, let’s bring this back to today if we could, because you were telling me that they have already announced it, in scientific journals, etc, that they’re able to create hermaphrodites today.

Alan: Yes.  In fact, NASA did a two-hour documentary special, and it was narrated by David Suzuki, who does the wildlife programs generally, and he’s a geneticist actually.  They talked about going off to mine the planets.  So you can imagine the cost of tin eventually, if they’re going off the mine the planets.  They said it might take many years to get to a planet.  And the first thing they’d have to do, just like the old, old Star Trek series, they’d have to build underground quarters for living accommodations.  They said the trip would take so long that they’d have to alter the human body, perhaps into the hermaphroditic type, which is self-reproducing, and can also be put into a state of hibernation, and of course, what they were getting at as well, was that there would be less tension, by having the same species, just one type, no male and female in conflict or competition with each other, or competition with other males.

Jackie: And they could reproduce themselves.

Alan: Yes.  That’s the whole idea.  And they said that they could actually do that and, in fact, they said they could make a human to be, alter a human to live in any type of terrain, or climate, and they could actually make you like Cousin It, if you imagine.  Cousin It was in, what do you call that program that used to be on, the Addams Family.  It was covered in hair.

Jackie: I don’t know.  I didn’t watch the Addams Family.

Alan: So if they went into an arctic type region, they could create a type of humanoid, and they can do it.  They said that, that would be covered with its own fur.  They could.  They can do that.

Jackie: This was a NASA presentation.

Alan: Yes and it was big, they spared no expense, naturally, because this is all to get the public to accept the vast expenditures into space research.  And of course, Joe Average has been geared up and brainwashed into supporting it and thinking it’s exciting, when in reality, it has nothing to do with Joe Average.  It’s only the plan of a small elite for the benefit of a small elite, and for the furtherance of their plan, which is to basically do on other planets what they’ve done here on earth.  Suck the life out of it, basically.  They said that the hermaphrodite can be made.  So, they obviously have plans to do it, since they admit they can do it.  I have no doubt they’ve been testing.  We know for instance that long before the double helix and the genes and so on were actually physically seen, they knew they were there.  And if you read Rutherford, who was the great mathematician, who did the dimensions of the Great Pyramid, Rutherford in his own memoirs said that he was employed by the World Medical Association.  This is the beginning of the 1900s.  He’s talking about a World Medical Association.  And he said, to study human genes.  Now, why would you need a mathematician to study human genes around 1910, when supposedly they couldn’t even see the genes by then?  He’s giving it away that they could.  They were way, way ahead of what we’re told.  And I’m sure the experimentation has been going on for an awful long time, and that’s why they’re so confident they can create anything that they want.

Jackie: I had a question that you explained.  We were talking about the chromosomes, the X and the Y chromosomes.  And I had to be refreshed on that.  The woman carries the X, the male carries the Y.  And then a male/female mating, if it’s an X Chromosome that mixes with hers it’s going to be a girl, but otherwise if it’s a Y and an X, it’s going to be a male.  Is that correct?

Alan: Yes.  That’s right, and of course that’s part of the mystery too, that they’ve always known, that the male produces in his sperm both X and Y.

Jackie: Oh, and the female only produces the X.

Alan: That’s right.  So, when the male Y, and of course the letter Y in Freemasonry means two in one, two into one.  That’s why they have such a big to-do about the letter Y.  Every letter in the alphabet means something in Masonry.

Jackie: Yes, and the X, really, literally could mean exed out.

Alan: The X is also something that you write off or discard.

Jackie: Yeah, like the X Generation.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: Or like, you said, Ex, the former.  So, my question was, in my mind, that I asked you, how in the world does it reproduce.  This creature would have to have, of course, the male testes.  It would have to have a female uterus, and that was where I was feeling confused.  But you explained, maybe what you knew, or at least you figured could happen.

Alan: We are in a scientific age, where they can literally extract anything from any body.

Jackie: I know, but in a natural way, how would they reproduce?

Alan: Well that would be a new natural way, you see.  That would be the new natural.  And of course, they don’t even have to have the male external organ to do it.  They can simply extract it and again, replant it you might say in another area.

Jackie: Or right up there.

Alan: It won’t be that difficult.  And since they say that they can do it, it means they’ve already done it.

Jackie: Exactly.  And it’s actually, it could say exactly where it is, when you think about it.  Just retract, you know, the outward appendages, but, okay, my question was, would they have to have sexual intercourse, in order to do it.  And you said, that probably not.

Alan: I don’t think they’d actually want that.  I think they’d rather eliminate the sexual desire altogether.

Jackie: So they would create this creature to where it would somehow get a sperm connected up with an egg.  I mean, the body would have to be built somehow, where it could be released, or something.  Yes, Alan?

Alan: Yeah, it could be.  Or again, once again, it could be extracted, even.

Jackie: You mean by outer means, by somebody else doing it.  I have a feeling….

Alan: Or even a machine, really.

Jackie: A machine, okay, whatever.  But I have a feeling, I don’t know why, but if they’re going to do this, they’re going to try to make it so it will all happen without having, you know, to plug in or whatever.  That there will be, maybe they wouldn’t like that though.  They would lose some control, wouldn’t they, Alan?

Alan: Yes.  And I can see the day coming, and they’ve written about this too.  There’s a book called, Future Man, and I’ve got the ISBN and the author and so on in the Second Book that I put out.  That’s an official scientific book, by various genetic research organizations, and it goes through a lot of this information, and they do, they’ve had huge meetings, international meetings about creating new types of humans to meet the scientific requirements of a scientific age.

Jackie: I can’t imagine.  We have to, wait.  Hold your thought.  Because we’re about to take a break and I’m just going to repeat what I said the other night.  I can’t imagine this world without women.  We’ll be back, folks, right after this, with Alan Watt, in this intriguing conversation.

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Jackie: And we’re back with Alan Watt, and we’re talking about, folks, if this sounds, really way out there to you, it’s only because it is.  And yet, Alan, in the books that he has done provides as he was saying before the broadcast, the actual pages from these books, where they’re talking about it.  And the clues are there.  And it’s interesting Alan, not too long after we talked about this, the first time on the air.  Now, I think it was probably a few years ago, there was a big, what do you call, documentary on one of the channels.  I have C-band satellite, so I don’t get all the mainstream, but HBO or one of those.  And it was on hermaphrodites.  And it was about people who were born, and yet, in this documentary, for the most part, the parents either had them turned in from one, either to one or the other sex.  But basically, there’s an organization of hermaphrodites, and what they were saying, these are people who didn’t have the change, that who they are and what they are is just fine.  And boy, if that isn’t getting people ready to accept this, I don’t know what is.

Alan: Well, we’re in tremendous flux right now.  Everything that was natural, or seemed natural, is in flux now.  It’s deliberately made so.  And of course, this has been written about by various organizations, including the Communists, of course.  They said a time would come where the Western Civilizations would almost crumble, and be ready to be born anew into another direction, and that’s what’s happening.  Everything that used to be valued as normal has been totally broken down.  And the Masons have terms for it where they build. In the Middle Ages they built huge cathedrals, and as they were building a new one, they were dismantling the old at the same time.  That’s why they call themselves Masons.  It’s society they build, and that has been under attack for a long time, especially since World War II. That was the first change, when they put the women into the workforce, as an excuse that the men were off to war.  And then of course it was followed by massive campaigns to get women into the workforce continuously, and in Europe, they played it out there that they had to get it for extras, to supplement her husband’s pay, and then it became of course standard.  And now as you know it’s the norm.  So women have been encouraged to give up that one outstanding and unique feature that they have, which is to have children.  And they give it up at the expense of their own psychological health and the detriment of the people, of course, in order to get a career.

Jackie: Because they think they have to.

Alan: This is all encouraged, deliberately so.  We had the sexual revolution, we must remember, the term was revolution.  We had the pop revolution, and then the rock revolution.  So all of this came at the same time.  And the drug revolution.  To destroy that which was, in order to prepare the way for that which is to come, which is the new society, which is already planned by people you’ll never see.

Jackie: Yes.  And you know, a thought that occurred to me, which is a little frightening, because, okay, I guess what I’m doing is stepping into their shoes.  The people, the children who are brought up into this “new society”, everything is so normal to them, what we call normal and what is normal in our mind, may have been given to us as normal.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: Okay, do you see what I’m saying, Alan?  And yet, everything that isn’t, what seems normal, natural.  I would have to say natural.  But then again, we don’t know how much genetic tinkering, even with our food and the flowers, and all the plants, everything.

Alan: The inoculations even.

Jackie: Well, yes.  But genetic tinkering, I’m talking with everything that to us is natural today.

Alan: Of course.

Jackie: And so, if that is a possibility, I guess what I’m saying is, stepping into their shoes, anything else other than as it is would seem abnormal.

Alan: Sure and especially with the massive indoctrination that they get at school, which actually begins at kindergarten, the whole sociological program towards what they will eventually experience in their lifetime, and the changes which will come when they hit thirty or forty, and how they will react to it.  That’s programmed into them as soon as they’re two years old at kindergarten, in Europe.

Jackie: What was the movie, not Nineteen Eighty-Four, but, you know, where they have the incubator babies and things like that?

Alan: That’s Aldous Huxley’s book, Brave New World.

Jackie: Thank you, Brave New World.  Shoot, there was something that I wanted to say about that, and I’ve forgotten what it was, trying to remember what the heck the name of the book was.  Just go ahead and continue, Alan.

Alan: Well again that’s a good example.

Jackie: Oh, I remember.  I remember, remember the people who didn’t succumb to the system, who were living far away, that was in Brave New World, wasn’t it.  They called them the Savages.  And I remember these women sitting around saying, oh my God, you’re saying that they actually give birth to a baby from their body, because in that time, it was all the, what do you call them, from the bottles.  And that’s exactly what could happen today, it truly is.

Alan: Well, there’s been a lot of movies like that.  Sylvester Stallone did one movie where he’s a cop who goes into the future through cryogenics.  He’s frozen, and wakes up in the future, and he finds out they don’t have sexual intercourse and exchange bodily fluids.  They use that term, you know, and the actress that played his opposite there looked disgusted that they actually used to literally mingle their bodies and their bodily fluids together.  So, this has been, they’ve got this across, in so many different ways, because all fiction is simply predictive programming, as Tavistock calls it.  It prepares our mind to accept something which we will experience in our lifetime.  And because we saw it though fiction, it seems familiar and the idea isn’t so horrible.  That’s why it’s portrayed this way.

Jackie: And as you were saying Alan, when we were having this conversation previously, and I always wish when we have those kinds of conversations we’re actually doing it on the air, but what you were saying, you see, because in my mind, it was difficult to imagine how a man would want to not be with a woman, or that a woman would accept, you know, that type of a thing.  And it’s as you said.  The women are already giving up the femininity of what a woman is.

Alan: Absolutely.

Jackie: They’re giving it up.

Alan: Carl Jung wrote a book called Memories, Dreams and Reflections, and a few other books.  He was the psychiatrist that really was a true psychiatrist, as opposed to Freud, who was a fraud.  And Carl Jung did a visit to the States, in about 1953, and he was astounded, he said, when women lose their eros, their femininity and begin to emulate the males, then he said, that culture is on the decline to things unknown.  And he said he saw that for the first time in America, back in the ’50s, where women literally tried to match the men in their strides, in the way that they walked, their gestures, and also, even emulating the kind of speech that men generally use.  So he saw it being portrayed right in front of his eyes in the United States.  So that’s true.  When a culture loses its eros it’s ready for anything that their masters plan for it.  Because there’s nothing to hold on to.  You only fight for that which is.  When it’s already in flux, and it is not what it was, then there’s nothing to fight for, you see.  And that’s the trick of this whole system.  It’s so slick, so clever, that as we watch things changing, we are automatically adapting to them.  We’re being downloaded with propaganda on a daily basis, from so many sources, that by the time we realize what’s happening it’s already too late.  And it’s almost overwhelming.  We also have to realize that the men have their sperm counts taken every year by the UN, they do surveys.  Now, the UN has never declared why they’re doing these surveys on the Western countries since the 1950s.  And last year, the sperm count in the average Western male, including America, actually in Britain, it was down 85% of what it was in 1950.

Jackie: In Britain or America?

Alan: In Britain.  America was 75% down.  So, in other words, the men are only 25% fertile as they were, as opposed to 1950.  And the UN gives these statements every year.  They never qualify it with a comment as to why they’re doing this study.  You would think for instance, they would say, this is a crisis situation, but they don’t, and that’s the tell-tale that this is an agenda.  That it’s being caused by probably the inoculations I think, primarily, and since the polio vaccines began in the ’50s, by Doctor Salk.  Now Dr. Salk is known for the polio vaccine, he’s lauded as a hero, and yet, when you go into the history books, about this man, he belonged to the World Eugenics Society.  He believed in survival of the fittest.  And he was all for eradicating the common person, because he said, in the future to come we won’t need all these laborer workers.

Jackie: And that is the truth.

Alan: And he said there’s too many of them, and they’ll have to be eliminated.  And this is the guy that comes forth with a vaccine to save us?

Jackie: Yes.  And tell our listeners what you heard him say on the television at a Round Table.

Alan: This is a CBC documentary, in fact, on him.  And they showed you old 8mm clips where he’s talking, he’s standing in his white coat with a couple of his partners, and he said, oh, yes, he says, we did know that there were over a hundred simian or monkey viruses in each polio shot, he said, but we thought it outweighed the risks, you know, the benefits would outweigh the risks.  And he said, we did know that the Simian 40 Virus, that’s just a numbering system to identify the particular one, and this is the fortieth virus they identified that everybody got, had one function, and that was to cause cancerous tumors.  So they knew all of this.

Jackie: I thought you said brain tumors.

Alan: No, it’s all cancers.

Jackie: Oh, just cancerous tumors, period.

Alan: And so they knew this.  This comes from a man who in his own circle was better known for his speeches on eugenics and population control.  And yet, they conned the whole Western World into taking this shot, and now we find that most men are almost sterile.

Jackie: Well, I’ll tell you what a lot of that probably has to do with too, is the estrogen dominance.

Alan: That’s a plus factor.

Jackie: Well, yes.  Because according to Kurt Nubian, his information comes basically from Dr. John Lee.  There are 60,000 sources today of xenoestrogen, and xenoestrogen, folks, is an artificial estrogen, but the estrogen dominance causes femininity in men.  It causes infertility.  It causes women to have endometriosis. In fact, one of the reports that I found on this, Alan, came from a Canadian doctor.  And what was amazing to me, is that he said, for the past fifty years, and you remember, what’s his name, Charles Galton Darwin’s book, in the Next Million Years, that was done in the fifties, and he was talking about the use of the hormones, and how they would change the people.

Alan: If you want to pacify aggressive males who might just upset the apple cart during massive changes, you stop them from being aggressive males, and you make them effeminate.  And that’s been done.  It makes perfect sense.

Jackie: Yeah, but it’s also causing.  Okay, look at what else it’s causing, besides sterility in the male, the low sperm count, they said that the incidence of hysterectomies, total hysterectomies, in Britain is high, only just behind the U.S., and they said something like 40-some percent of women will wind up getting total hysterectomies, and not even having to if they had their hormones balanced.  So, you’ve got the men losing their sperm count, and you’ve got the women having their reproductive organs taken out, Alan.

Alan: Yeah.  And you’ve got population control.

Jackie: No lie.  Population control, big time.

Alan: And of course, what they didn’t, and they never do, promote through any of the Hollywood movies or the sexual educational programs, is the fact that most women are becoming infertile through their fallopian tubes being infected with chlamydia, which is a long, long acting infection.

Jackie: And it’s sexually transmitted.

Alan: Sexually transmitted.  And so many men have it and don’t know they’ve got it, because in the man, he has a mild, very mild warming, not a burning on urination, and he’ll think nothing of it.  And so many, in fact, they did a survey in Toronto, as being an average Western city, they did a survey about a year ago, and they found that about 60% of women, 25 and under, were carrying one or more sexually transmitted diseases.

Jackie: Oh my god.

Alan: Because they’re so promiscuous.  That’s the new norm, you see.  That is the new norm.

Jackie: Well, they’ve covered their bases.  I mean, they just don’t miss a lick, Alan.

Alan: No, they don’t.  It’s total warfare on the public, and it always has been.  Only now, over the last century, they stepped up the scientific techniques to accomplish it.  I mean, Proctor and Gamble admitted, there’s another thing, they promoted, don’t breastfeed your children.  And they came out with the ostermilk they called it, over in Europe.  And of course, the big pull again was to women’s vanity.  Your breasts won’t sag so much if you don’t breastfeed your children.  And so many children lost out on the kicking off, the starting off, of their immune system, which they got from their mother’s milk.  And then Proctor and Gamble promoted the other big thing.  Well, babies need special food now, you see.  I don’t know how we managed for thousands of years without Proctor and Gamble.  And they were using a sterilization agent, a fluid, to wash out the jars before they put the baby food in it.  And it just turns out that years later they find out that it’s also an artificial form of estrogen, a synthetic estrogen, and they didn’t know that at the time.  And sure you have all these effeminate males now.  So, this is a plan.

Jackie: And I wanted to say this too, for our listeners, folks, plastics, I added this information, and Darren has already put it in, about what Alan and I are talking about, and to give you just a little list there of sources of the xenoestrogens, and basically, we spray it in our rooms, we spray it in the air, we brush with it, we smell it, we sleep with it, we live with it, we slather it on our bodies.  It’s just about in everything.  This information is there.  And we also, Alan, I wanted to say this, I thought about it while you were talking.  We talked about this a long time ago, and I read to our listeners a report titled, The Deneuralization of America, or the Population, and this was extremely researched.  I went into probably two thirds of the sources that this article gave, and they were there, you know, the source scientific journals, etc.  So, be sure to check that out.  Alan, go ahead, I’m sorry.

Alan: I should mention the fact that I’ve got these three books to sell, you know.  They’re called Cutting Through, and there’s 1, 2, and 3.  The three of them.  And if you want one or all of them [ see www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com ] and I’ll send them out to you when you order them.

Jackie: There you go.  And be sure that you put your full name and address and return address on it, or they won’t deliver your mail.  And the books are certainly, definitely, worth having.  Basically, what it does, well, it’s based on information that Alan shared with us over a couple or three years.  And confirmation of the information that he has given us, and I say that he brought us out of the Dark Ages.  He brought us out of the forest, so we could see the trees, and it’s not been a happy or easy ride folks.  I will admit that.  And I think about you.  I mean, Alan, I just finished those three chapters of the book, and I was in a funk that was not good, and I realized that I literally was just emotionally exhausted.  And it was discovering the details of the things that you had already told us, but it was in more of a general way.  And to be able to look, behind the scenes, and see all of the players, it was almost overwhelming to me.  So, I think about our listeners.  I think about them and how they feel.  And folks, just know that, I don’t know, rather than bemoaning all of what we’re learning, maybe give thanks that we are coming closer to the truth than we’ve ever been in this lifetime.  We’ll be back with you tomorrow night.  Thank you for being here, Alan Watt.  Thank you, so much.

Alan: It’s a pleasure.

Jackie: As always, thank you.  Ladies and Gentlemen, Good Night and God Bless You.

July 27, 2005
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

Jackie Patru: Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen.  Thank you very much for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  This is the 26th?  Yes, Alan?

Alan Watt: 27th, I think.

Jackie: Oh, 27th?  I just lost another day.  It’s Wednesday the 27th of July.  You were right, Alan.  I had to check my calendar.  It’s the 27th of July, in the year 2005, folks and as you obviously are aware, Alan Watt is with us again tonight.  Let me first begin here with our spiritual message.  And we’ll bring Alan up.  This is from Ephesians 6, beginning with verse 12.  Well, we’ll start with verse 10 here.  “Finally my brethren be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.  Put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all to stand.”  Every time I read that, I think about that wrestling, Alan.  I mean we wrestle not against flesh and blood.  It is without.  It is also within.  The wrestling goes on within us.  I know that.  I know that.  First of all, I want to say hello to our very good friend, John, and his friend, Bill, and their family who are camping in Allegheny State Park, here in Pennsylvania.  John is from New York.  And he was Chuck’s boss, but Chuck’s very, very good friend.  I was thinking about this tonight.  I got a call from John, Alan.  And they’re out camping, and they have their shortwave, and he called to get the coordinates.  I hope they can bring it in.  It occurred to me they’re out there in the woods, but when Chuck passed over, besides for myself and my family, my children and grandchildren who absolutely adored Chuck, I believe probably, and his family, of course, but John his friend probably was impacted the most of anybody that I know.  They were very close.  And so, I want to say hello.  And I hope you guys are listening, John and Bill at least.  And Alan, thank you for being with us tonight.

Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie: I wanted to share something with you, with our listeners.  I pulled up some email, Alan, in fact when you called.  That’s what I was doing.  There has been a bill that was passed that was yesterday, on the 26th.  I guess it just came to light today.  This came right from the government website, Thomas, where the bills and the status, etc.  Folks this is Senate bill 442.  Listen to this, Alan.  It’s a bill to provide for the Secretary of Homeland Security to be included in the line of Presidential succession.  Isn’t that amazing?

Alan: It makes sense though.

Jackie: Well this was sponsored for our listeners in Ohio, Senator Mike Dewine of Ohio.  And Alan, it passed the Senate without amendment and with unanimous consent.

Alan: Well, they all get their marching orders before they even see it.

Jackie: Yeah.  Michael Chertoff, you know I have made the statement, because I had read it, that he had been the former head of the KGB, and I think that it was not Michael Chertoff.  I think it was somebody else, an appointee of Bush’s, but what I did is I got some information on Chertoff, just to clean this up with our listeners, because folks, I’m not confident that he was, as I have said, the former head of the KGB in Russia, but he is a dual Israeli/American citizen, US citizen, he’s a son of a rabbi, he’s a former assistant attorney general for the criminal division of the justice department.  I had never heard of him before, Alan.  And listen to this, Michael Chertoff, dual Israeli/US citizen, oversees the US bureau of citizenship and immigration.  My, my.  So, we can, I guess, he’s the one that gives the rules for how many of these illegals get to come across the border and etc.

Alan: That’s the whole agenda.  Everything is international already; it’s just that the public don’t know it.

Jackie: Yeah, well, you know, this, it makes you wonder what might be up.  I mean, what do they know or whatever is in the plan, why they’re.  Wouldn’t that be frightening?

Alan: Well, as I say, it’s an old, old plan.  Albert Pike talked about it extensively, and said that Freemasonry would be used to push it worldwide through revolutionary movements, and it has done so.

Jackie: Through the revolutionary, yes.

Alan: And of course, if you remember, it was Dodd that did the inquiry into the merging of the Soviet system with the American system.

Jackie: Oh, you’re talking about the educational system?

Alan: The whole system altogether, when he did the inquiry.

Jackie: Norman Dodd.

Alan: That’s right.  And of course, that’s what the Ford Foundation told him, that was their job, to change the culture in such a way that it would blend smoothly with the Soviet system.

Jackie: As a matter of fact that was during the time that Congressman B. Carroll Reece was holding the hearings, congressional hearings.  I think that was in the 50s, wasn’t it, Alan?

Alan: It had to be.

Jackie: Yeah, the congressional hearings on the foundations, tax-exempt foundations, and for just further for our listeners, folks, Norman Dodd was one, he had some type of position on that committee; but it was the Ford Foundation he went to, Alan?

Alan: Yes.

Jackie: And when he asked to see their meetings of their minutes folks, and the man told him simply, and this was according to Norman Dodd, the man said, well, I would like to be able to you know, help you here, but he said that all of our meetings, our minutes are archived away, because he said after our work was done, after was it, was it, Alan, was it after the UN, after the US joined the UN.  But he said that their function had been, and they felt that they had completed it, to see that the US could be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.

Alan: And you must realize what a gigantic enterprise that was.  It meant that the educational system had already been taken over and was working towards that, because most of it is through indoctrination, and of course, the bureaucracies, people don’t realize that bureaucracies, federal bureaucracies deal directly with their counterparts at the UN.  There’s a similar bureaucracy for every level that your federal government has set up within the UN.  So they don’t have to go and see representatives, they go straight to the UN and that’s been going on since the League of Nations.  H.G. Wells talked about it in 1919.  He said that that means the bureaucracies and the heads of bureaucracies can deal directly with the League of Nations and bypass all representatives that are elected.  So this has been going on for an awful long time.

Jackie: Who was it that you quoted, the Freemason?

Alan: Albert Pike.

Jackie: Pike, right, Albert Pike.  The connections of Freemasonry with revolutions, with the American Revolution, and…

Alan: And the English one before that.

Jackie: Well, with all revolutions, Alan.  But that’s what got me looking into it, because of all the reading that I’ve done, and there, from their own words, they keep claiming that, you know, their hand is behind every revolution.  And for some reason, I guess because we’re so brainwashed, you know, the American Revolution, the War for Independence, that was exempt in my mind.  That didn’t count because that was different.  And realized how their influence in the early colonies and in the Constitutional Convention, and etc, that was when the question entered my mind, Alan, well, what would make us think if they were behind every revolution, that the American Revolution was spontaneous?  And it was a real downer for me.  But, you know, it’s like that quote, at least attributed to Patrick Henry, for me, I would know the truth, the painful truth.  I would rather know the truth than to continue to live in the lies that we were born into.

Alan: Yeah. I mean, they’d had international meetings before the Revolution in America, the leaders of Britain and France and other countries that were empire builders, and of course they could only go so far with their own populations who knew darn well that there was a small clique in every capital city running the whole show and benefiting from the wars.  And they’d gone as far as they could go, so they had to get a new knight in shining armor to pretend that they were going to lead the world to freedom.  And so they created the United States.

Jackie: The land of the free and the home of the brave.

Alan: That’s what it was for.  And of course, that’s why they said Novus Ordo Seclorum.  It’s a new earthly or secular order.  And that’s bringing in the New World Order, and that’s what it was designed to do and all of its symbols are out in the open.

Jackie: And they referred to America as the New World.  The New World Order.  One of the things that I also delved into, and convinced myself and I hope the readers, that it isn’t funny, I don’t know why I laugh at some of this sick stuff sometimes, Alan.  We did not, the Americans did not win that war against Great Britain.  And when you look at the treaties in the first place, that first battle, or the last battle of Yorktown I believe it was, Cornwallis ceded the battle but not the war.  And it was quite a while after that before a treaty was actually signed.  And you see when you read that treaty that it was the king that was laying down all the parameters.  Even to where the colonists could fish, where they could dry their fish, and etc.  And then nine years later there was another treaty, it’s called Jay’s Treaty, and Jay, by the way, after he got back from England, from agreeing to this thing, was burned in effigy all over the country.  And Alexander Hamilton, the king’s man, was behind this treaty, but basically the people even knew when word got out, what he had done, knew that he had sold America out.  But nine years later, they were still, Britain, England, still had military bases or forts out West, and they were still doing their trapping all over, you know, just as though it was still their country, and that was nine years after the so-called War of Independence was won by Americans.  It’s really sick, Alan.

Alan: Well, when you’ve got to deceive the people, it has to be real.  So you create real wars, but only those at the bottom think it’s for the reasons that they’re fighting.  The guys at the top are well aware that, as Carroll Quigley said, wars are fought to change society.  It brings about social changes.  And sure enough, people swallowed it.  They thought they’d won.  They worked really hard thinking they were working for themselves.  They built up massive farms everywhere.  And of course, it never dawned on them that this hidden priesthood, let’s call them, work in centuries, and they knew they could take it all back from them a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years down the road.  That’s how they plan things.  And of course, America was the great hope for all the people who were getting thrown out of countries like Scotland and Ireland on mass, at the point of bayonets.  And these are the people who came across and started to clear the land and make something that was just wild forest before, and swamps.

Jackie: Yeah, but they still had the land barons.  When you read Charles Beard’s book, An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution, what you realize is that the people who came over here and did all the labor, and did the settling, the land that was available to them was not the cream of the crop, because the land barons had already scooped up thousands and thousands of acres of the best land.

Alan: Washington was one of them.

Jackie: Of course, yes he was.  And people came over here and either had to take just, you know, the crumbs so to speak, or pay high dollar to get a decent.  And when the movement in America began heading westward, the speculators just went out west and bought up land there.  And so by the time the people got there, once again, these elite had all of the cream of the crop of the land out west.  It’s really a comedown, you know.  You live in this dream, Alan.  You know, the dream, the American Dream.

Alan: Well, that’s what a dream is. It’s not real.

Jackie: Of course, although what I realized is this baby is a nightmare.

Alan: Yeah, you wake up from the dream into the nightmare.

Jackie: Into the nightmare, yes.

Alan: When you wake up.  This is an old, old scam, and it’s been used before in history, and it’s simply used again.  And after the skirmish, I call it, of 1812, it was Baron Rothschild’s son who was sent over to reestablish the border between Canada and the US.  And he sat down with both sides and he drew up the 49th parallel, and they love the number 49, you know.

Jackie: 49, but why?  What does that signify?

Alan: It’s 9 and 4, 13.  That’s one of their favorite numbers.  That’s why before most towns you’ll see 13 miles or 13 kilometers to, and that’s the last signpost you’ll see.  It’s all Masonic.  It’s everywhere.  And that’s the laugh on the public, because most of them don’t realize it.  They’re living in another world designed by another religion, and Albert Pike says that quite definitely two or three times in his own book.  He says, make no mistake, Freemasonry is a religion.  And it’s a very deep religion, and towards the top it’s probably the most elitist religion on the planet.  At the bottom they think it’s a self-improvement society, but at the top, you know, it’s a world where the elite have the right to live on the schmucks below.  That’s how it’s designed.  Another good book to read is the Robber Barons. That’s an oldie.  And most libraries probably still have a copy.  And that tells you how the taxpayer funded the building of the railroads, which were basically handed over to the private companies.  And I know in Canada, most of the politicians all had shares in it.  So, once again, the public finances big enterprises.

Jackie: Who wrote the Robber Barons?

Alan: I’ve even got the cartoons.

Jackie: Do you remember who wrote the book, Alan?

Alan: I can’t remember his name, but it’s well documented and it’s got all the names of the participants and the elite families, and how they ended up not only getting the railroad tracks built, but they got so many miles on either side of the track for free.

Jackie: Yes, they did.

Alan: And you know, it’s one scam after another.  In fact, the Bronfmans came in from Russia, in the late 1800s, in the first wave, they came from Russia, about 1880, and they just happened to set up out in Saskatchewan way, and sure enough, eventually along comes the railroad going right through their land, and this very, very poor farming family we’re told, who probably did no farming at all, and whose name in Yiddish just happens to mean Whiskey Man, that’s what Bronfman means.

Jackie: Oh, Bronfman, you’re kidding me.

Alan: No, that’s what the name means, yeah.  And so it’s all coincidence, of course, you know.  And anyway, they got the rights to all the hotels and whorehouses along the railroad track.  And then of course they bribed every politician.  They had prohibition passed in the States, and they smuggled all the booze into the States, and they shared that with the Kennedys, in the US.  And then of course, after they finished prohibition on the US side, they bribed all the politicians in Canada to then pass it in Canada.  So they simply reversed the flow of the booze.  It’s just one gigantic scam after another, you know.  And that’s what history is made up of.  And of course these families end up as multi-millionaires.

Jackie: His story.

Alan: Yeah.  They end up as multi-millionaires and they’re in politics, and the people bow to them, you know.  The ordinary people bow to them.  And they’re nothing but gangsters, you know.  That’s all they are, just gangster families.  And that is the history of it, and that’s what history is all about.  It’s just one scam after another.  And there’s no way that George of England had anything to do with the American Revolution, because George of England was mad as a hatter.

Jackie: Well, it was according to the bio on Hiam Solomon, the hero of the American Revolution, I know I said this last night, but it bears repeating, in his, in one of his bios, it says that he went to France and secured a huge sum of money from the Rothschilds to help finance the revolution, Alan.

Alan: And the British Rothschild financed the British side.  That’s how it works.  It’s amazing to watch this con game going on.  And what’s even more amazing is that the monarchy in France helped the Americans with the revolution, because England had made so many plays to take over France in its history that the monarchy weren’t on very good terms.  And then of course, once the American Revolution was over, it started in France.  They deposed the monarchy that helped them.  And it’s interesting, even though it was taken over under a new system, it still had to pay that loan back, America still had to pay the loan back to the brand new type of government.  That still stood.  And that’s what’s amazing, even when governments change from one form to another, it does not affect the owing of money or the legal paying back of money.  It must still be done.

Jackie: Exactly.  That was part of the treaties that were agreed to after the war, the revolution, the American Revolution, that the British subjects, whose property had been seized by the government, had to give the property back to the British.  And they did not have to become American citizens, by the way.  You know what I’d like to do?  We’re about to take a break.  And why don’t you take this time, the next few minutes, and tell our listeners about your books, how they can get them, and then I’m going to go and take care of that barking.  She’s wanting in this room is what she wants, Alan.  So, I’m going to be off mike until after the break.

Alan: Okay.  I have three books dealing with Freemasonry, ancient Freemasonry.  Freemasons.  The term that’s used today is a recent term.  So, I go through the history of it, way beyond the guilds of England, of the Middle Ages.  Much, much earlier than that.  And I also go through the history up through the present times, and show you what’s going on.  And I also give you a lot of the Masonic coding, which is all around us.  And if you want any of these books [see ordering information on transcript].

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Jackie: Okay, we’re back with Alan Watt.  So, where do we go from here?

Alan: Well, it’s a matter, the problem on the shortwave as we all know, is that we’re either preaching to the choir, or we’re preaching to people who have recently woken up and have looked around for other alternate means of news and it’s not an easy thing to handle when you’ve just woken up.  Seldom do two people in a family wake up at the same time, and that often is the main problem that I hear, is that one has woken up and they’re asking how to deal either with their spouse or their extended family, and I tell them generally that they have to learn to live inside their head, because if the other person hasn’t woken up there is going to be tremendous conflict there.

Jackie: Live inside their head?

Alan: Yeah, in other words, the thoughts that they have, the knowledge that they have, rather than keep repeating it or sharing it with a partner who has their fingers in their ears, it’s best to learn to live inside your head in that situation, because you can’t make a person wake up who’s not ready for it, no matter how much documented evidence you have, they have to be almost spiritually ready for it, you know.  So, you’ll get a lot of conflict, because they want the old person back, the person that was quite happy with their life, or quite happy with the way things were, and went to work for their eight hours a day and watched TV when they came home.  That’s what they want back.  And it scares them, when the one who’s awake, it scares the partner to see them becoming animated, you might say.  Sometimes people panic in fact when they realize it’s all a con game, and they realize where this is all leading to.  That’s probably something that’s never been discussed on the shortwave, is how to deal with that situation.  Those who do wake up tend to be very, very alone, and as I say, they have a tremendous, burning desire to share their knowledge, and it’s always with the person next to them.  And if that person, as I say, is not ready for it, there’s going to be tremendous conflict.  And of course they’ll be called nuts and all the rest of it.  And it might even lead to divorce, in fact.

Jackie: Unless the person who has awakened, has an ability, as you said, to live in their head.

Alan: Yeah, you almost have to be two people.  The person they’re used to, the person they expect you to be, and the one you really are.  You have to almost hide this now, although it’s impossible to go back, that’s the other thing, you can’t go back to watching sports or whatever you used to do to pass the time, you realize that everything is there to either indoctrinate or to make you pass the time without thinking.  So you can never go totally back.  On the other hand, you have to realize that you’re now awake, and those around you are fast asleep.  And you cannot simply by giving them information wake them up.  It doesn’t work that way, you know.  They have to have something inside themselves to make them ready to wake up.  And you cannot do that for another person, you know.

Jackie: Unless, unless, well, eventually, I’m not saying eventually it will happen, but the possibility of it happening maybe, in fact, a long time ago we were talking about this, the brainwashing has been so intense and the mind control, and my question was because, what we “know” or think we know, all of the information that comes into the brain forms a pathway, and those pathways are there.  And my question in my mind was, can you replace what’s already in that pathway that has erroneous information or does it have to be short-circuited.  And my guess was, it would take a short-circuit.  And when I asked you your opinion of that, that’s exactly what you said, that it would have to be short-circuited, and then my next question of course was, how would that happen?  And you said, unfortunately for these people, it has to be something that hits them personally.

Alan: Yeah, it’s a crisis of some kind.  And yet again, in a marriage situation, often it will go the other way.  The crisis will occur, but the person will often choose, because there’s a choice involved here too, to remain in the life that they’re familiar with, because it seems more comfortable to believe in it all, even though things are crazy with prices and all the rest of it, they still want to believe they’re being taken care of, because they know themselves if they start to believe this and check into it, which they’re scared to do, they’d have to rethink everything, everything they’ve ever known.  And that terrifies them.  That really terrifies them.  And so they risk a nervous breakdown to come into another reality.  And so often they’ll choose the divorce instead.  So that’s the conflict that arises.  And of course, if there’s more family members involved, they might just gang together and demand a visit to the psychiatrist even.  That also happens to some people who phone me.

Jackie: Is that right?

Alan: Yeah, because it’s too terrifying for them to start rethinking everything they’ve ever learned.  It’s too terrifying for them to say, my God, that means that every newscaster, every famous face on television is there to fool me.  They cannot go that way, you know.  They want to believe in the Dan Rathers.

Jackie: Alan, it begins when we’re born.  Because our parents were lied to the same that we were lied to.  And so, we live in literally a dream world.

Alan: It’s a Disneyland.  And also, what they did thousands of years ago, they studied all mammals, and mammals all behave in the same fashion as humans.  We’re another mammal.  And what you find is that if there’s a crisis or something threatens the little family of mammals, the females run into the middle for protection, the males automatically form a perimeter to protect, and if they’re attacked, then the males all go off to war, you might say, and try and beat whatever the intruder is.   And that works exactly the same way with human beings.  The women traditionally look towards the men for protection, in a rather violent world, and today, they’re bypassing the husband of course, because this is the final stage of this system, this part of this system.  They’re bypassing the husband and now government is directly dictating to the wives with regard to, you know, feminism and all the rest of it.  And government is appealing and saying, well, we’re here to protect you, that’s our job, and of course they’re giving their power to the government.  They give their power to the beast, the one that promises to protect them.  And effectively the husbands are being bypassed.  And this was all done by design, because as I say, they understand mammal behavior, and they know how to interfere with the normal flow of it.  So we actually are the most studied species on the entire planet, human beings.  And they know how to manipulate the male and the female.

Jackie: Who are these creatures, Alan?  Who are these creatures that are studying “human beings”?

Alan: Well, these creatures themselves claim, as I say, they have their own inner religion, and they do claim that they were rebels in a spirit world.  And I hate the word spirit, because spirit means drunk.  You know, you drink spirits to get drunk, and that’s why they gave us this term in the English language, from the Latin.

Jackie: What would the word be if it wasn’t in the English language?

Alan: It’s the true essence of what is you.  What you are.  The true essence.  It’s beyond the physical.  And these creatures do claim that they were cast out after a rebellion of some kind.  Now, people can call it whatever they want, a cosmic rebellion, dimensional, whatever it is, but the fact is, they believe that they were so perfect in this other form, this ethereal form, non-material you might say, that they willed their own physical bodies into existence.  And there were already natural people living here, that’s what they claim, but they themselves willed their bodies into existence, and because they did that, the first generation retained these supernatural powers.  And when they started to interbreed with the people who were natural to the planet, they began to lose these powers, and hence there was a speedy return to interbreeding amongst themselves to try and regain those powers.  And from then on, they’ve kept their genealogical lines going as far back, well, we don’t even have access to them.  It’s beyond and before Sumer, before 5000 BC.  But that’s the reason for the intense interbreeding that still goes on today, and the priesthood that matches them up for those bloodlines is very, very important.  It still exists.

Jackie: That’s why we have all the begats in the Old Testament?  Who begat who.

Alan: Yeah, even though it’s all nonsense in the Old Testament.  The Old Testament was a manufactured fallacy.  It’s actually a book of a system.  That’s what it teaches.  Every Masonic Lodge has that black book of law, that’s what it is, in their lodge.  And it’s a system with esoteric meanings.  It’s not real people.  It’s they use the names of people to teach stories, esoteric meanings behind the stories.  That’s what it’s for.  But it was put together by definitely descendants of these fallen ones, you might say.  In Egypt, and everyone agrees about this, 72 priests wrote the Old Testament around 300, maybe even 200 BC, in Egypt, and they wrote it in the language of the Coptic Greek.  And it was never translated into supposed Hebrew, which is just updated Aramaic, until about the 1st century AD.  So even in the time of Jesus, if he did read anything in the Synagogue, he must have read it in the Greek version, because that’s all they had at that time.  So, it wasn’t written by Hebrews, it was written by another people altogether, for the people who believed themselves to be Jews.

Jackie: And I’d like to make a connection here.  Where you mentioned that the Old Testament is really a book of laws, that was something that I realized, that the Old Testament is literally a political program that is wrapped in a cloak of religion.  And Moses, the first five books, I guess it depends on who is saying this, you’ll read that the first five books of the Old Testament are the Torah, which is the basis of the Talmud, and then some say that it’s the entire Old Testament.  But whatever, Moses Mendelssohn, who was evidentially a very respected and revered Wise Man, Jew, made the statement, that Judaism is not a religion, it is a law religionized.

Alan: It’s a very pragmatic system.  Really, that’s what it is.  It’s a system.  In the Old Testament slavery is okay, there’s no laws against slavery.

Jackie: And it’s God who’s demanding all the wars.

Alan: Yeah, it’s the godfather.  It’s a mafia system, you know.  That’s what it’s all about.  That’s what the whole world is all about.  That’s what all empires have always been about.  It’s a small elite being gangsters and lording it over the other people, living off the backs of the other people, and hiring the historians to write a nice story about them, you know.  That’s what history is all about.  And it’s all to do with this thing called money, without which none of this could occur.  None of it.  You could not hire an army without money.  You couldn’t keep men together long enough to invade anybody if you didn’t have this thing called money.  Money itself is an artificial creation.  And we think it’s quite natural because we’re born into a system that completely revolves around this thing called money.  And we are actually called economic units, you know.  Every human being is given that title.

Jackie: Actually, we are called human capital, Alan.  Human capital.

Alan: Yeah, that’s right.

Jackie: I just want to say this for our listeners.  There is an article there titled, Are Your Children Human Capital?  And it is literally, it has been discovered that that’s exactly what we are to them as you just said, Alan.  And then after I found that article, I found the executive order that Bill Clinton had signed, where he created a commission to study capital, all kinds of capital, and in that it was including human capital, and the commission was to report on the depreciation of capital, and of course, my question was, how do you depreciate human capital?

Alan: You make them sick, and you give them diseases.

Jackie: Yeah, you get rid of them.

Alan: Which is happening in Africa on a wide scale.  And it’s actually happening more subtly in the Western countries as we discussed last night, with the sperm count plummeting in the males, all by design.

Jackie: And the women having hysterectomies

Alan: Yeah, hysterectomy.  And here’s the problem.  People keep thinking or asking, well, when is all this going to happen.  They don’t realize, it’s been happening before they were born, and it’s been happening all through their lifetime.  There’s a Population Control Council in the United Nations.  Before that, the League of Nations also had the same council.  And they don’t sit on their hands making wish lists of how to control the population of the world.  They actually implement schemes to do so.  And of course, we’re told, they just make mistakes with inoculations.  They didn’t realize that the polio vaccine would affect the human race the way it has, cause all the tumors and sterility and so on.  It’s just a mistake.  And then in Africa, they gave all the free smallpox vaccinations out, and they didn’t change the needles, and lo and behold, the trail of AIDS, all through Africa.  And again, it’s another big mistake.

Jackie: Are you sure that that AIDS virus or whatever it was, wasn’t in the vaccines that they gave to the Africans?

Alan: Oh, I have no doubt it would be in it.  I have no doubt.  They started actually the same program in Haiti, and that’s where the AIDS first broke out, and then they went over to Western Africa, and you can follow the trail from the UN free smallpox vaccine.  So, this is going on.  The agenda is underway.  They can’t come out and tell you, oh, by the way, we’re killing you.  I think they’d have their hands full with upset populations.  So they simply don’t tell you; they do it.

Jackie: Well, yes, they do tell us.  And I’m going to mention the toothpaste, again.  On the toothpaste tube, unless you get your toothpaste fluoride free, because fluoride is a killer, but there on the toothpaste tube there is a warning that says, keep out of reach of children under six, and if you swallow more than enough for brushing, seek medical help or call a poison center immediately.  And Alan, that’s the thing that just blows me away.  Because I have showed that to so many people, and they just, it doesn’t compute, that they’re paying for their poison.

Alan: Yeah, but they still believe that they’re being taken care of, and they cannot believe that anything would be so widely advertised and promoted that would harm them.  See, they live in two different worlds.

Jackie: Then it’s time that people suddenly, somewhere, somehow, snap out of it Alan, and really take a look.

Alan: Well, it’s going fast.  I mean, you see how autism has rocketed, skyrocketed up until the present statistics.  And it’s all to do with the inoculations they’re giving the babies at such a young age.

Jackie: It’s the mercury.  It’s the mercury in the vaccines.  Thimerosal and fluoride.

Alan: They know this.  It’s a program, a population control program.  And Joe Public thinks, well, we’ve got spontaneous autism now.  It’s just a plague of autism and it’s quite natural

Jackie: 1700% increase in autism.

Alan: Yeah, and of course the old autism that used to be here, prior to the 50s, was one in about 10,000 or 25,000 it was, true autism.  And that means that from the time of the baby’s birth, it did not react normally to stimulation and so on.  Whereas this type of autism that comes only occurs after the inoculations.  All the doctors know this.

Jackie: There’s something I’d like to say here right now, because we haven’t said this in a long time, I haven’t.  Folks, when you have your children in school, in order for them to be in school there is required vaccines that they have to have at particular grades.  And every single state has opt-out for parents.  All they have to do is sign a form.  And in fact, when I finally got through to Nicole in Missouri, and she did a lot of research, found the law, and was calling the school, that was the first day of school, this past year to let them know that she was not going to vaccinate.  Actually it might have been a year before. But anyway, she said that she was on the way to pick up the form that she had had faxed to her to a Staples from, you know, the Health Department in Missouri, and the school secretary said, well, honey, we’ve got these forms right here.  You know, Nicole was ready for a real fight, and all she had to do was walk into the office and say I want the opt-out form, and that’s what she did.  And I want folks, listen to me, all of you who have children in school, if you vaccinate your child after hearing what we just talked about, then there is something very, very, very wrong.  I don’t know what else to say about that, but I wanted that known to any of our possibly new listeners, Alan.  Oh, I have to vaccinate them, that’s what Nicole was telling me.  I have to vaccinate her or she can’t go to school.  And I talked to Ashley and I said, Ashley honey, don’t do it.  Don’t let them vaccinate you.  And you just tell them, no. And that’s basically what Ashley did.  She said, I’m not going to get it.

Alan: Everything is done under pretense and under color of law, but in fact, it’s just a matter of bluff.  And the willing fool, as they say in Masonry, if you’re a willing fool, you’ve swallowed it all, and believed it all, you’ll go and take it, you see.  But it’s up to the person who thinks to ask the questions and demand the opting out.

Jackie: Thank you.  And Alan, thank you so much for being with us again this evening.  And ladies and gentlemen, we’ll see you back on Monday, and thank you.  And God Bless You.  Good Night.