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And now, live from Chicago, here’s the Black Knight of Talk Radio, James Arthur Jancik…

(Tom Petty’s Won’t Back Down, Intro)

James: Well, that seems to be the theme song from our next guest.  Alan Watt, a researcher into the causative forces behind major changes in historical development.  Born in Scotland, he watched the subtleties of politics and media as they guided the population of the UK covertly into the European Amalgamation.  There has been an open warning to North American people for some years now that the same process of amalgamation is being carried out.  With historical documentation, he shows how cultures are created and altered by those in control, always to lead the people like sheep into the next pasture. Learn the science of Religion Creation-Domination, rather than simply stating current events and details.  Alan attempts to deprogram the listener and the reader of his works.  He has authored three books, made available CDs, and just completed a CD on these subjects.  He spent a good part of his life in the music industry and has had poetical works published at major University Presses, mainly under a pseudonym.  Cutting Through the Matrix is his website.  And welcome to Feet to the Fire, Alan.

Alan: It’s a pleasure to be on.

James: Yeah, you know, we hear a lot about these secret societies and what have you, and one argument I didn’t like from, we’ll call them mainstream people, is that if these things were really going on in the background, we would see it on the news, we would see it in newspapers, we would read about it all the time, biggest stories, biggest headlines.  Well, why is that not a good answer?

Alan: Because the media, the major media, itself, has always been a part of government.  It’s the media. It’s the middle.  They peddle the info from the top to you.  That’s their job.  They give you a version of reality which you’re supposed to believe in.  And you’ll find, why do you think they call all newspapers in all big cities; there’s always a Sun, there’s always a Star, etc.  You know, these are all the symbols of Freemasonry, or the Mercury.  They’re Masonic.  They’re all Masonic.  They’re controlled.  And if you look at the big empires and empire builders within the newspaper industry, and also television industries, and they get knighted.  It doesn’t matter what country they come from.  They go over to Britain for their knighthoods, because they’ve served the system well.

James: And if the system’s medias are part of the deal, well, of course, they’re not going to expose it.  But then, how do we explain things like Richard Nixon getting nailed?

Alan: I don’t think he was nailed.  I’ll tell you, I really don’t.  Looking back at it all, and even with the way that they play their own people, who are not at the top.  They appear to the public to be at the top, but they’re put there.  Nixon himself, you’d have thought would have gone and held his head in shame somewhere in some backwoods somewhere, because he’d be ashamed to see the public.  And it wasn’t until he died that the public were informed that all that time, all those years, he’d been the main envoy to China, the most important job that was coming up for world trade.  He was setting up the whole Chinese industry and all the communications between the West and China for China taking over the industry.  So really, he wasn’t demoted, he was promoted.

James: Well, he retired.  Yeah, I would think that if somebody were to do something, they would go to, if I did something like that I’d be in prison, where he got a pardon.  And I understand that they take care of their own, it just seems like, from Nixon’s perspective he would have just went on a walk and went on his merry way, and yet there was some kind of a spanking there.  It seems, is it possible that maybe somebody inside the media did something and the word got out somewhere along the way that they had to do things, so in essence they’d have to do them in a way of lessening the blow.

Alan: It’s very possible.  It’s very possible.  They do take care of their own.  There’s no doubt about that.  But it also seems that they had him lined up for this job all along.  And they do give the public tremendous drama.  We talk about all these things that are given to us to talk about, and most of it, you know, is really drama.  It’s no different from the rags you get at the supermarket, at the checkout counter.  It’s almost gossip which they write for us to parrot about.  That’s what keeps the little people occupied is all the drama.  But we never get into the real stories behind the scenes.  Never.

James: Well, I would clearly say that when you’re in a company, you have a golden parachute if the company goes out of business.  Wherever you see the presidents of the company, or those that are board holders, actually becoming poor, I laughed when I saw the documentary on ENRON which had Ken Lay.  Ken Lay?  He was talking about how he lost millions and millions of dollars in this and he could understand about the people losing their pensions.  It just so happens that he had several million left over.  But he still couldn’t understand losing it.  Well, they should have nothing left over then, especially the way they did that company.  There should be nothing left over.  There should be no comeback.  I know Nixon was brought in to be a mediator.  I think there was a baseball game umpire strike or something, and he came in as a mediator.  And it’s funny how he was not shamed, if not imprisoned, at least shamed away.

Alan: It’s a different set of laws for those who have risen above a certain rank.  And that’s part of the key to all this Masonic business.  The lower members of the orders, until they get into the noble order, you see, once you become a noble, you cannot be tried by anyone except a jury of your peers.  That means other nobles.  And that never happens.  That’s why they don’t go down the hill to the lower court.  They can only be tried by their own peer group, and so that’s been, once they’re knighted they’re above it all.  They’re into a new category of regulations and rules, and they have protection.

James: Well, it does seem, well, I guess why I’m asking on it is that it just seems like, yes, he didn’t get what was coming to him.  It seems like it’s still a surprise that he got anything.

Alan: Yes.  And not just anything, but as I say, that was a major thing, because this was years, remember, they put him there years before the public got a whiff of NAFTA or GATT, the General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs, and then Star Chambers that would decide where World Trade would go and set up all the business to be set up in China, and all the industry to be transferred from the West.  I mean, Nixon was sent out there as the first man really to set that whole thing up, you know.  That was a big job, yeah, very important.

James: Maybe Nixon did something in the background that maybe somebody did a power play, and someone dropped the dime on him outside to try and keep him involved.  Maybe it was an internal struggle but they used a bit of the outside to keep him in line.

Alan: It’s very possible.  I know that, I’m sure Kissinger had some run-ins with him.  I mean, Kissinger really ran the show.  And small as I was, I could tell that the struggle was going on between them.  So, I wasn’t too surprised when he got set up.

James: Well, along those same lines we have Kissinger, we’ll say, running the show on that point.  People have alleged that the current president, he’s not running the show, he’s the front man for it.  Who would you put in the current administration as being the guy running the show, or is it somebody behind the things here?

Alan: The ones closer to the public view are always the Vice Presidents.  In the higher Masonry, you always find #2 is the main man, never #1.  That’s standard.  So, #2 is more important, if you understand Pike’s numerology, you’ll understand what he’s really getting at, and he wrote the rules in his book, so the #2 man is the boss.  So, it’s always the Vice President, and then it’s the scriptwriters, who write the scripts for the president.  You think about it, why even have a president if he’s reading someone else’s speech.  You didn’t elect the writers, you see.  But somebody picks them.  Somebody trains them.  And these speechwriters are coordinated with each other, in every country.  So, you see, there’s a parallel system set up here, and they’re all trained from a central core.  They all write the same kind of speeches for every prime minister and president at that same time.  So, they’re coordinated from a central core.  They’re far more important.  And they understand psychology of the masses.  They know what to say and how to say it, when they write the speeches.  And I really think they should get some kind of Oscars and let us see who all these characters are behind the scenes, that do the scriptwriting.

James: Maybe there’s something we can work out, where you can actually have the best actor and the best award.

Alan: Well, they could always give the actor’s one to the presidents, because all they do is read them.  And then give one to the scriptwriters too, a separate one.

James: But in all reality, it’s really not a funny thing.  It’s terrible, because we’re having a world run by these people, using us as simply cattle or animals or slaves or what have you to do their bidding.  They feel that they’re better than us.  They are treated better than us.  They have all these ideas.  And where did that come from?  Where did this start?  How did, did they wake up one day and decide that we’re going to be the elite?

Alan: I think the techniques and the elites have been here for a long, long time, maybe thousands of years.  You just need to read the ancient history to catch how the ancient system in commerce and trade and banking was done.  And it hasn’t changed.  And they understood the mentality of the logic of the masses.  Even in ancient times.  What’s fascinating is to read the philosophers from Greece and others who wrote about the mind and how the mind worked and how the masses would perceive things.  And then you follow up through kings and queens, backed by the Vatican for centuries, with their own advisors.  And then you see there’s the same technique being used all down through the ages where they always say the right things and do something else.  But it’s a science of guiding and controlling mass behavior that really is at play here.  And you can go into Machiavelli, John Dee, and Francis Bacon and others, who wrote almost, books basically intended for kings to read, showing the king how clever and devious this person would be as an advisor.  And they wrote books on how to manipulate people.  That was a standard science in the Middle Ages for instance.  They also had the British diplomatic corps, that was probably the world’s best for centuries.  And these guys were really spies in a sense, trained in the chess of life, the chess game of life.  And they would go into countries and agitate for revolution, and have the current governments overthrown, and then they would dispose of those who started the Revolution and bring in the British to protect the chaos, the fallout for the ordinary people.  And that’s how they took countries over.  It was very Machiavellian.  They understood how to use peoples to fight for them.  And these people would always think they were fighting for themselves and their own peoples, only to find out they’d all been fooled in the end.  This was a standard technique.  And Marlon Brando did a movie on this technique, in the 1960s.  It’s called Burn.  B-U-R-N, and about how the British took over some of the Caribbean islands from the Portuguese, and how they used the blacks to rebel.  Then they used the Portuguese that were third or fourth generation to rebel at the same time, betrayed the blacks and eventually betrayed the Portuguese leaders, and then came the British as a brand new empire to take over.  This was a standard technique.  They used the same technique in India.  So, these are sciences which are taught in special diplomatic corps in a high level.

James: Now, you can see that clearly in the Mid-East now.  We have been told we’re going in to get rid of these weapons of mass destruction that were just waiting to destroy us, and well, there wasn’t any.  And if there was any, they were so legally poor as a definition, of what they were.  And it’s still like, oh well, we didn’t find them, but he was a bad guy any way, so we’re going to still do it.  And I know people are starting to back off of this and the numbers are going down and all that, but can we really do anything?  One of the things I do on the show is I want to expose truth.  You know good and bad.  Sometimes the truth is good.  You know, and you’re relieved by it.  Sometimes it’s ominous, but you need to deal with it.  But what can one do?  And we’ll go through that throughout the night.  What can one do, for example, on this current thing with Iraq?

Alan: To be honest with you, none of the standard things that you could do will work.  Because we never had a say in this thing in the first place.  It was planned years before the event.  It wasn’t a spontaneous thing to do with 9/11.  9/11 was a must-be that had to happen, to enable them to put their plan into motion.  And the public have no idea of the realities behind it all.  We’ve all seen all the lies that came out with the weapons of mass distraction and mass imagination which went nowhere, but it did its job at the time.  And what you find is, in history, whenever your boys are over there, you see, it doesn’t matter which party you then vote in to change things, they immediately turn around and say, well, we can’t pull out now, there will be chaos.  That’s been used for dozens and dozens and dozens of times.  It’s standard routine.  So, you could not do it by traditional methods, to stop it.  You’ll never get the big boys at the top to admit to anything until fifty years after the event.  That’s also how they work it, when they declassify information.  I tell you, the ways you’d have to change it now would be for people and relatives and parents to disown their own sons who join the military.  That’s what you’d have to do.  That’s the step you’d have to go to, because they depend on the little people at the bottom that do all the complaining to send their own sons and daughters off as cannon fodder, which enriches the big businesses, and helps them fill their coffers for the private corporations.  And the little guy has nothing at the end of it anyway.  You know.  So, you can’t, you have to think outside of the box for a change, because all the complaining in the world is not going to change this.

James: I think that’s a good point.  I mean, writing your Congressman, the only possible way that could help is if you were able to have your Congressman out from the office.  So what I suppose you can do, I mean, maybe as a collective of many things would help, to effectively hold their Congressman’s feet to the fire about this.  If they don’t fall out, I will vote for the next viable candidates, even if I don’t like the guy, just to make sure you’re out of there.  You know, that type of deal.  And that’s kind of weak, but that’s the only power we have.  That’s the power of writing a letter.  That’s the power of voting someone out of office.

Alan: What’s interesting, I mean, the whole thing of democracy was explained by Plato what democracy is.  And really, if you understand what he’s really saying is that it’s a front.  It’s a front for big power and big business, which can convince the public that they have rights, you see.  It’s a con game from the beginning.  It always ends up with dictatorship as well.  That happened thousands of years ago.  It happens today.  So, it’s a con game.  We don’t vote these people in.  They’re picked long before the public ever see them put on exhibition to vote for.  They’re selected.  They’re weaned.  They’ve been given the okay.  Politicians even at the grassroots, who don’t belong to family dynasties, to become a politician, you are encouraged to join charitable groups.  They’re all run by Freemasonry, by the way.  That’s the induction method.  And there’s always an older character there who will also be the Grand Master of the local lodge.  And it doesn’t matter what kind of charitable group you get onto as a board member, you will sit there, and you’ll learn the ropes of what to say, what to kiss, and what not to ask.  That’s how you play politics.  And then if he gives you the nod, he’ll pull you aside, he’ll tell you about a higher board with more contacts and he’ll allow you through, but he’ll also advise you to join a Freemasonic organization, be it male or female.  And the more you do, the merrier.  If you know what not to ask, when you can take the hint, when he’s encouraging you to stay off a certain subject, you’ll get ahead.  So, these characters have been vetted and screened for years before the public ever get a chance to vote for them.  That’s a fact.  That’s a fact of life.

James: And if we get to vote at all, it’s picked from say two candidates which are already okayed.

Alan: That’s right.  Exactly the same as it was in the Soviet system.  They gave you four members to choose from for president.  You had Politburo Member 1, Politburo Member 2, 3, and 4.  Which one do you want?  They were all vetted by the Politburo.  It’s the same thing here.

James: And it could be an internal game of challenge for them to get, who can get us to vote for them, would even make them a better choice, because they’ve got us to vote for them out of the three, so who would be a better choice for the job anyway, because he has the better ability to dupe the public.

Alan: Well, Carroll Quigley, Professor Carroll Quigley, that picked a lot of people that are now in your bureaucracy in the federal government.  He picked them for Rhodes Scholars.  He gave the okay for these guys.  Bill Clinton was one of them.  And, of course, the Rhodes Scholarship was set up to serve the British Empire for furthering a system, worldwide.  And he said, it doesn’t matter about the lower politicians.  They’re allowed a certain amount of competition.  But he says, the Anglo-American Establishment always put their own men in at the top.  That’s all they have to do.

James: All right.  Well, hold on.  We’ve got a good start here.  We’ve got a lot to talk about and go through this.  Take a break and continue talking with, Alan Watt.  Cutting Through the Matrix is his website.  A lot of information, books, CDs, DVDs, a lot of information there about this.  We’re only going to barely scratch the surface of what he has to offer.  And we will continue live and take your phone calls as well, and emails and chats.  888-863-2722, if you would like to ask a question directly.  We’ll be back live, after this break.

All right.  We are back and we are live worldwide with Alan Watt, Cutting Through the Matrix.  And welcome back, Alan.

Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure to be here.

James: And so, what I kind of do, is I kind of just jump around, so we’ll skip around and come back and continue, but, what’s in my head now, you see, and other people are seeing it, and they’re talking about it.  People are waking up.  Not necessarily in alarming numbers as far as we’d say; but why are you allowed to continue doing what you’re doing, than rather just kind of silence you?  Is it like a cat playing with a mouse, just fun letting them, so how many people get it and so forth?  Or is there some other, we’ll say force for good behind you?

Alan: I think that they constantly take at the top and they always have done, is kept their pulse on the people’s opinions.  Poll taking is a continuous thing.  At one time they used to simply hire thousands of spies, and London had thousands of spies employed in the 1800s, just going around coffee places, teashops, and bars to listen to the conversations of the public.  And they would insert in the newspapers topics of conversation, dramas and so on, and the public would get involved to see if it was taking, if it was working with them, to create public opinion.  But they also listened to see if there were original thoughts out there at all.  And to be honest with you, in this age of mass downloading of entertainment and so on, and the speed of life today, they know that as far as a majority movement goes, it will never happen.  They have the minds of most people.  Most people go through their life never even coming close to figuring out that the system they’re living in is a planned system.  It didn’t evolve by itself.  Every stage was planned.  And the major events that would happen through their lifetime that were outside of their control were also planned.  Most people never wake up to that.  And they never figure out that we’re in an artificial system, which can only spawn more deviancy with every generation.  They’ve known this even with animals since the 1700s.  They still do the same tests today for psychology students, where they put rats in a cage, a big cage, and it starts off, they have a magic number and all their social behavior disappears and becomes deviant and they attack each other.  It’s the same with us today.  They’re cramming more and more people into cities.  Plato talked about the city being the beehive, which would be used to bring in this new elitist form of control.  He called the Guardian Class were the ones who were the elite.  And he said, we shall use the beehive, where the people will be put, because once they’re in the beehive, where nothing is normal, any normalcy can be given to them and constantly changed according to their plans.  And sure enough, that’s what’s happening today.  A city cannot even grow its own food.  It lives in a completely artificial system, a pariahical system really, where you have an elite at the top, or at least the ones you see visibly, in the public eye, and everyone feeds off the person below right to the very bottom.  It’s an anti-humane system, built on being successful and fit enough to compete.  And if you don’t fall into the right categories you end up on the street.  And we call this civilization.  Civilization was shown in a Masonic movie called 2001: A Space Odyssey, written by Freemasons, and put together by Masons.  And they show you a lot of their religion in that movie, especially at the beginning.  And they believe in evolution.  They believe that the first ape-man as they say had the right, the one who became civilized for progress’s sake killed an opponent for the first time.  So, taking a life for the first time was the beginning of civilization, by using a weapon, and that’s what they call progress.  Civilization is a brutal mechanism which serves a few.

James: Well, I saw that movie and I was moved by it.  It was fascinating, and yet I disagreed with it.  And I like the way that you put it that way.  It actually, I was grieved when they “advanced” by killing the other ones.  But it seemed like that was where they were looking at being the stronger.  And now you put that to the latter part of the movie, when you’re drawn to Jupiter, and we’re the ones, the apes we’ll say, who are going to rise to that next level, and you’ve made an analogy that that next level is to subdue those underneath it.

Alan: Sure.  Dominate.  And you find that in this system, where most people at one time were taught when they were bringing in, especially the banking systems, where they could sell off national debt, like the Bank of England for instance.  At one time people believed that the economy or the economic system was there to serve the people.  Now, of course, in higher universities, they teach that the people are here to serve the economic system.  And that’s the truth of it.  That’s how it’s taught today.  That’s how it’s understood and perceived by those at the top.  We are here with a function to serve the system.  And this system with its money and all the rest of it is just a tool.  Money is a means to an end.  It’s the biggest trick in history, is to get you to accept money, until you have a whole world training its youngsters to be busy bees, to be picked up in yellow-and-black school buses, and trained from 8am to 4pm, which is just like going into a job once you leave school.  You’re being trained to participate in a system which you have no, basically, import in creating.  So, it’s an artificial system designed long before us.  We are sold into debt before we’re born through these borrowing money from international banks.  And Jefferson himself said that a generation born into paying off a previous generation’s debt were de facto slaves.  That hasn’t changed.  Slavery has always been here.  It simply hides itself.  It hides its form from sheer brutality to the next level.  So we now have a more genteel cover over the name slavery.  It’s called citizenry now.  You’re a citizen.  And when you’re a citizen, you belong to the country.  You’re owned by the country.  The definition of a citizen today in dictionaries is someone born into a system with preexisting duties to that system.  It doesn’t mean you’re free at all.  You cannot be free and be born into it with preexisting duties to perform.  You’re owned by the system.  And that’s why immigration takes such massive boards is to see who’s going to get the right to tax you for the rest of your life, if your old boss or your new boss.  That’s what immigration is all about.  And giving you status as a citizen.

James: Well, we’re seeing this stuff, and when we get more into the next hour we’ll talk about, I don’t happen to think that this is done and over.  I realize that when we’ve figured out Plan A, they’ve already drawn up Plan B.

Alan: Yes.

James: So, it’s a chess game.  They’ve already figured out all the moves on the board, and so they’re not even worried about it.  In fact, if people do kind of surprise them, it might jolt to them, because they’ll say oh, man.  And then they go with a backup plan.  I say that there is something that can be done that will surprise them.  And I go to the movies, I shouldn’t say the movies, because a movie won’t change things, but Lord of the Rings has been a very good example for me.  I’ve been reading it over and over again, about how, no matter how big they were, and how they always think using their same logic, and then something as illogical as somebody working together and actually losing out on those things they hold dearly, was the, it turned the tides.

Alan: I’ll tell you though, for every movie you watch, there are two sides of the story.  And if you understand.  You see, the public are meant to view things and identify with the heroes.  That’s how simply it works.  That’s how drama has worked in all ages.  We emulate that which we see.  The man will identify with a hero.  The woman with the heroine.  And what you don’t realize is they’re writing an occult story behind it, from their point of view, as well.  Because the Middle Kingdom was mentioned by John Dee and Francis Bacon.  Francis Bacon put it in his New Atlantis, and he talked about the people in the valley and people in the Middle Kingdom and the Upper Kingdom.  You’re talking about a Masonic side of it, which they don’t explain to the public.  And what they used to win in the end were the dead.  It was the shades, the ghosts.  Those who are already dead were used to win the battle for them.  And then, once they had won the battle, the dead disappeared.  Their usefulness was gone.  They’re talking about the people.  We always fight the battles for them thinking we’re fighting for ourselves.

James: Yeah, I can see how you’d take the movie, I can see that slice of it, as you quote that. And that’s well said.  I was looking at...  And I’ve always been bothered about the high blood and the low blood and I want to get into that too, of some aspects of what that might really be.  But I’m kind of not looking at that part, I’m looking at the part where each one of us plays a part into it, that can take down the big, you know, people without control and all the power and all the money and all the knowledge that their arrogance and their greed blinded them to their Achilles Heel.  And of course, what’s after that, the bookends, and there’s no story about how the other people worked together, or how this one worked with that one.  I mean, it’s just a story, but I’m kind of looking at that aspect where if we could unplug from this Matrix and stop feeding it, like, in fact, you mentioned about the soldiers.  There was a song I heard called Universal Soldier.  And the group escaped me, but it was kind of like an Irish folk group.  But anyway, when they got done with the song, they walked you through it, and the end result is, who gets blamed for war, is actually the one pulling the trigger.

Alan: Well, ultimately they are.  You see, we are the willing fools.  Masonry talks about the willing fools, all over and over.  Including their lower members.  You’re a willing fool.  You believe you go into something for the right reasons and it’s your belief in it that makes your part to serve their system work for them.  And young men are picked for old men’s wars because young men are pretty stupid.  They haven’t grown up yet.  That’s why they pick them at 18.  You haven’t even learned what life is about yet.  They’re still playing soldiers one day and then wearing a uniform the next.  They’re living half in fantasy than reality.  And that’s why propaganda movies are so easily, work so easily, because they use at the top, they use tribal psychology on the young people.  It’s well understood how tribal psychology works.  Every ballgame you watch is based on the same thing.  And every young boy wants to be the hero that’s applauded by his peer group.  And so, they use these techniques in all these propaganda movies where the enemy can’t shoot straight and you’re always the good guy.  And of course, they never go into the politics or who benefits from all this in the movies.  All the young guy sees is being a hero and getting the women, the status he’d never get in the city street, and all of this stuff.  It’s a technique that’s exploited by very old men who have access to old sciences.

James: Yeah, I see that.  In fact, I like how you’re slicing things, so, I want to keep as it goes, I want to keep going to get your slice of it.  Because I like how you’re slicing it.  There’s many ways to slice things, and they all have purposes and so on, but I like how you’re slicing it.  So, when I throw the movie The Matrix into that, what’s your slicing on that one?

Alan: The movie, The Matrix showed you many, the sides of this.  One fallout of The Matrix movie and I’ve had some calls from young people, part of what you see in movies is predictive programming, getting you ready through a novel idea.  It used to be books, now it’s movies, which grabs your imagination and carries you off into another world to come and The Matrix is almost, actually, it is here.  But what it showed you in a movie is that you could fight the system from being inside the internet.  And I had to tell these, and there’s movies out already on top of this, which are encouraging the same thing, that you could fight it by being part of it.  And I tell people, look, if you’re inside a computer program, if you were hooked up to it, which you can do, they did that in Sweden back in the 70s on prisoners.  They put chips in their brains and wired them right to their computer.  And that’s open.  That’s acknowledged.  If you were inside a computer program, you didn’t design the program.  There’s no free will inside a program that someone else designed.  Everything that you could think of has already been thought of inside that program.  So, predictive programming was unfortunately a side effect of that movie, however, on an allegorical side it showed you the system really as it is.

James: All right.  I want to continue on that, because I’ve got some observations of the Matrix.  I actually, I got the impression out of unplugging from it, but then they do go back into it and fight the Matrix from within it, rather than outside of it.  So, that’s a very interesting point.  But hold on.  I tell you what.  I’ll call you back at the top of the hour, because I have a report now for this week in free energy.  So, we’ll give you a call back and continue.

Alan: Sure enough.

James: All right.  Alan Watt will be back after a little report.  We are going through and cutting through even deeper into this kind of Matrix aspect idea of they are setting the playing field.  And even when we think we’re breaking out, we’re still playing one of their games.

Announcer:  And now, live from Chicago, here’s the Black Knight of Talk Radio, James Arthur Jancik.

James:  Well, with us tonight is Alan Watt, live from Canada, who’s making these points, John K. Stubbs made in ’60, ’68, where we ended up putting our head in the sand like an ostrich, because there’s nothing we can do.  So we might as well just go along with it. But the problem is, we’re going along right into the slaughter.  There is no medium.  The people who are running things here seem, they’re not content with we’ll just use you a little and feed you a little, like the old slave model so to speak of limiting freedoms, limiting creativity, but providing health.  It’s like now, you know this is getting boring just having these people tag along.  Let’s just kind of destroy them.  It seems like we’re going to the point where we’re going to see how bad it can get.  How much can they manipulate us?  How much can they kill us?  How much can they get us to kill off ourselves?  How far can they push that envelope?  Now if you think I’m exaggerating, well, how about corporations who lay off as many workers as they can, raise the prices as high as they can, lower the quality just as much as they can, just to see how far they can push that company.  It always goes bankrupt.  Pow, we went too far.  Well, we’ll buy this other company and we’ll do the same thing.  Eventually we’ll get to see how far into it.  It reminds me of Kramer, driving his car to see how far he can, how close he can get to empty for the car to stall.  But it’s not really funny.  We’re back to Alan to talk more about this in a minute.  And back to Alan Watt.  Welcome back, Alan.

Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.

James: You know, back to that Matrix thing.  You know, you bring up a good point.  And I like what you’re doing, because you’re really focused on slicing this right at the bone and the marrow of the meat so to speak.  That’s good.  We need people to have things that they look at and we can throw stuff at them, and they already have their paradigm shifted this way.  And then you could slice it.  Boom.  Oh, I see, there it is.  Keep doing it.  And then all of us can assimilate that point, and that we all have our specialties, we all do it, and we all share with one another, and then we have a consciousness. That we can see what’s coming down and it’s nice to see you do that.  And I never thought about that, as much as I love the Matrix, and the answer is to say no.  It’s what Neo did.  He still was in the Matrix.

Alan: That’s right.  He was in the Matrix, and in the last movie, remember, he gets to see the Grand Architect, who runs all the programs.  And the Grand Architect is the Grand Architect of the Universe, the Masonic Grand Architect they call him.  And he asks Neo a few questions.  Now, Neo, remember is new.  And Anderson, is son of man.  That’s what it means, from the Greek, Andred, so it’s the New Son of Man.  So, he’s the Jesus character for the New Age.  And he meets the Grand Architect.  The Grand Architect throws a few questions at him, and behind Neo, there’s about 50 or a 100 screens of television there, which shows Neo going through every possible reaction in answer to the questions.  So, everything is predicted.  Every conclusion you come to is already figured out in the programs by the Grand Architect, who tells him that, that there’s nothing new that you can think of yourself in this program, you see.  So, you could not possibly fight it from within.

James: I did not see the latter movies.  A bunch of people I’ve talked with about it have mentioned about how the last two deviated from the message in the first one, so I actually didn’t watch it.  But giving the account, what you’re doing, it seems that way.  But, I don’t agree with that statement.  If it is all over and all thought of, then why be here?

Alan: What they’re showing you is a predictive programming because there’s movies followed up in different venues along that theme, which have really got the young going, who think they can get into the Matrix and fight it.  In other words, literally by using a chip in the head.  That’s what I’m talking about.  You see, you’ve got to understand that side of it.  On the allegorical side, simply allegory, they were showing you how the system does work.  If you understood it already you understand the movie.  They showed you the legal system run by the programmers of the system.  Everyone in the Matrix thought they were normal.  They were given a fake life to live.  And they saw their fake people they thought were very real doing jobs.  And then they also showed you the Frenchman who was in charge of the underworld.  Well, just like this system, the same boys at the top run the overworld, the legal system, and the illegal system.  Everything is the Duad, everything is the Hegelian dialectic, where both sides are always owned by the capstone.  So there’s a lot of allegory of the real system of the world as it is now, in the movie.  However the movie takes place inside basically the internet.  You plug into it.  So, it’s a different world as well they were showing you.  Two worlds; one allegorical of the present, and one that could possibly come.

James: I see what you’re pointing at, which is well taken, but outside the movie, our real world, we’ll say, where there’s a lot of things that are comparable allegorically, where does our own connection with the higher beings, our souls, God, where does our intuition, our ability to get information from outside of the Matrix?  I’ve had things, dreams, and things pass into my head that were outside.  I mean, how does that play into this?  Is this a card they don’t believe exists?

Alan: No, they know it exists.  That’s why they gave us religions and that’s why they also would take the beginnings of a religion and then use it against the people.  I always say if there was another Jesus Christ or anybody like that or a Buddha, within ten years the big boys would control him and give you a different version.  So, religion has been used as a control mechanism.  And we think within the box.  If you’re brought up with a set type of religion it’s hard to get outside that box to even envisage some kind of Creator that’s completely different from the one you’ve been taught, you see.

James: Oh, yeah.  I would agree with that.  I actually had a breaking of my paradigm, years ago.  I restructured or allowed to restructure following truth as I went along, and it showed a much different paradigm and actually quite better.

Alan: That’s right.  And it’s a more independent or personal level which is outside of the “us” group.  You see, religions are meant for the masses.  That’s why they gave the mass to the masses.  And you’re taught to think as a mass, and even the born-again Christians think they’re going off to heaven like some giant posse, all together.  It’s always a mass thing.  And even in the ancient times, pre-Christian, the Enlightened Ones who always pop up now and then and know that it’s nothing of the sort.  The light goes on one at a time in different places all over the place and not as a big group. The mass culture will always go the group way, and they’re easily led.  That’s why they have a shepherd, a good shepherd.  And every religion has its good shepherd at the top.  A shepherd owns the sheep, you see.  And he lives off the sheep and he feeds off them and he clothes himself with them.  The sheep don’t know any better.  So, anyone who’s got a good shepherd should throw it away, and bolt, bolt for the hills, you know, as fast as they can, until they can think for themselves.  But yeah, often thought will come from way beyond all of this when you’re ready for it.

James: I want to get into some of the spiritual aspects of this in a minute, but you bring up an excellent point that I brought up here, that there are many people out there who are telling us that we’re sheep, and that we should not be sheep.  But, in reality what they’re saying is don’t be sheep following them, be my sheep.

Alan: That’s right.  And you fall from the frying pan into the fire, again, old techniques.  That’s why the Big Boys always make sure they…  When they know that a religion is dying off, they can sense it, they have their polls again, and they’re great at keeping statistics.  And when it’s dying off, they’ll give you something similar, because people, what they look for immediately once they try and leave the old sheep pen is to look for something with the same kind of rules and familiarity that they can jump into.  So, they always make sure that there’s one with some similarities they can walk into.  And they keep doing this.  And the people, sure enough, they do walk into it.  The whole new age movement was talked about and planned in the 1800s; and the New Age was the Freemasonic magazine’s title of the Scottish Rite of Freemasons.  They put the magazine out every month back in the 50s, and that was the title of their magazine, the New Age.  And they said right in there, they would bring in the New Age for a new period, a new era for the world.  And sure enough, they have created over a hundred-odd years, they’ve created a whole new religion.  And the people who have drifted into it, buying the books off the shelves and being fascinated, it never dawns on them that it was all being created the same as the old religions were created, by very clever people, with expertise in this area.  Nothing happens by chance, as Plato said, as far as culture goes, the elite always give the culture, and they can promote it from the bottom up if they need be.  But in reality, it’s decided and created at the top.  Any grassroots movement and religion would be outside of their control and could have incredible consequences to them.  So, they never allow a grassroots movement to actually come out of and be and exist for long.

James: Once the grassroots movement starts, they immediately try to hijack it.  They can’t squelch it, or if they think, well, we could use this to our, but here’s one of the things I was thinking about, that the best lie to tell would be the lie that has the most amount of truth in it, with the least amount of interference and using the smallest amount, smallest part, at the right part of it, to be able to deflect people wide of it.  The best lies tell a lot of truth, before they have that lie inside there to be perfectly placed to really shoot you off.  And so, my question to you is, are they, end up, if we can wake up, they’re in their own way are providing us with information that would allow their own overthrow if we could separate the wheat from the chaff.

Alan: Yeah, they are, because they’re tremendously legalistic.  They must always show the antidote to whatever poison they put out, in the full knowledge that most people will never take it up or even recognize it as such, but technically, it’s in there somewhere, heavily camouflaged, though it may be.  They do give you the antidote, which would take a miracle to be honest with you.  And the antidote, you see, the Old Testament is the rulebook of a system.  It’s not people.  All the names you get and so on, it’s a rulebook of a high, very high occultic system that the high Freemasons understand.  Not the little guys with the pot bellies and drink beer and all that stuff.  The high ones understand it.  And the New Testament is an antidote with hidden allegories, inside it, which preexisted Jesus, had been used before down through the ages in other major religions, because they always give you the antidote within each religion, knowing that the people won’t take it up, because to do it, you’d have to be so idealistic in your own nature, that you’d have to completely alter your way of living, behaving, etc, in the full knowledge that the bulk of the populace around you won’t give up all those little things that they hang on to, which keeps the system going.  You see, man’s inhumanity to man is what feeds this whole system.  As I say, it’s like every generation breeds another crop of young foolish men, who are easily used for war, the purposes of which they never really understand, often for their whole lives afterwards.  They don’t realize they’re working for private business and corporations at the top.  It’s nothing to do with the propaganda that’s fed into them so easily.  So, we are in a sense our own problem, and yet until we solve those problems, the elite will always use us for their own advantage.  They use human nature.  They take the drives that we have, the instincts that we have, they amplify them until we’re neurotic with them, and then they sit back and watch the fallout.  We saw that with the Sexual Revolution, and where that went to.  If you take anything, any advertiser will know, if you want to sell any kind of food, you just repeat it and repeat it over and over and over, especially late at night, when people are almost somnambulistic, they’re in a hypnotic state, and it sinks in.  The people will want the food, even if it had never dawned on them before in their lives, until they saw this particular delicacy.  It’s the same with sex.  Any need or drive that you have can be exaggerated beyond a neurotic response, until it becomes obsession, and then you watch the fallout.  And the fallout is always predictable in advance, as well.  Then you create chaos in society.  Then you bring out your solutions, which were formed long ago, when you formed the whole plan.  These are all techniques that have been used over thousands of years and repeated when required.  We saw this with the fall of Greece.  The same techniques were used.  The same with the Fall of Rome, as they change the ages.  They had the same thing in ancient Egypt, when they finished the line of the Rameses, or Aries, which is a Ram in the Astrology, Astronomy, the Zodiac.  They finished the line there and had havoc in Egypt as they changed the ages to the next age.  They had Jesus change over, he’s the fish.  The fish is the symbol of life.  He says, I come to bring you life.  And now, we’re into the Age of Aquarius, where he empties out the pool, the gene pool to an extent too, where the base material, those who can’t come through into the next age, the New Age, must be eliminated according to the esoteric tradition.  This is also written into the Hindu religion, which is heavily involved in all of this.  So, most people go through their lives never understanding any of this, although, personally and around them, they react to the fallout of it.  They suffer from the fallout of it.  And they’re part of the problem too, as they go through it.

James: What you’re saying, it fits very well.  And I’m wondering if what if you took that saying, and you’re seeing it from a perspective of the people running the show are calling these shots and doing it and so forth, and it’s therefore, let’s say a negative reason, or a controlled reason or whatever.  What if that perspective was actually a spin on, we’ll call it a positive evolution, where the solutions are laid out because, how do I say this, myself.  Where this is a positive evolution, we grow spiritually.  But because the dark side will say, well has the same knowledge, or at least very high knowledge, of the program, that they will spin the result, pre-spin them, so that they have them, and they fall in line, people go, oh, Gee, it’s just like you said, this is all part of a negative plain.  But in reality, it is a positive allowance for people to go through to choose the right way out.  And the people who are throwing stones inside, the demons or devils, or whatever you call it, the negative side, are trying to make it look so that the architect “God” is the controller involved, whereas in reality the people inside who are trying to derail it are the ones throwing stones.

Alan: Well, that’s part of it.  I’ll tell you why, because, you see, it’s also in the traditional religions, even though most people don’t know that, because they read it in a different way.  They read it in the way they’re trained to read it or expected to read it.  In the ancient religions, including the Greek, you had different levels of deity.  And the levels of deity represented parts of a system.  They also had the Demiurgos in Greek, where the Demiurgos was basically the devil, or the dark side that was in charge of the world of matter.  This is the world of matter that we live in, you see.  And beyond him there was much higher levels of more enlightened levels, intelligent levels, but when it came to the world of matter, they had to dominate this world, the dark place, and therefore, in the world of matter, since even Marx goes into this to an extent, Karl Marx, the wars are always about the material, who’s going to own the material, who gets the big share of the material world.  And also with the female, she is mother, which is moter, which is matter.  It comes from that.  So, everything comes from the mother.  The male part…

James: Hold on.  We’ve got to cut for this break.  If you want to just pick it right up where we left when we come back, that would be great.  Just hold on for a minute.

Alan Watt, Cutting Through the Matrix, literally, live on Feet to the Fire.  We’re back again after this break

We’re back live, talking with Alan Watt, cuttingthroughthematrix.com, and welcome back, Alan.

Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure to be here.

James: So, if you could just pick up where you left off.

Alan: Yeah, this world, which is matter, is the Middle World, that’s what they mean by it.  It’s the place where spirit and matter meet, and where the future of both is decided, perhaps on an individual level.  However, it’s a battleground, because the material is always looking for more material, and everyone in this world of matter knows, what, what is right really?  If we all did the right things, the whole system would fall apart, as far as the slave system goes, and yet, we’d have to trust each other to help each other out in the meantime, which we could all do, you know.  We could all do the right things, and stop saying, well, I’m okay, even though the family down the road just lost their jobs or got kicked out of their homes, so they can’t pay their taxes.  We’re the only species that actually kicks out its own out of its home, because they’re poor.  Or they lost their jobs, or they can’t pay.  They don’t even do that to turtles that carry their homes on their backs.  We’re the only species that has to pay for your shell, you know.  This is an exploitive system.  And we all know it.  However, when each one is riding high or getting by, and affording enough entertainment and all the rest of it, we don’t want to see that which is below us.  Where we might even have been ourselves at one time.  We don’t want to look there, so we ignore the fallout around us, even in the worst of times.  This is a cruel system, which doesn’t let up, even in times of Great Depressions.  The taxman still came round demanding money from you, and he was trying to get water from a stone.  No one had any.  So, you went out of your home.  So, the system carries on, even when it’s broken, and you at the bottom always suffer, and yet rather than kick this system out the window, we hang on to it as long as we’re okay.  It’s crazy. And so, man’s inhumanity to man is bred into the very system from the first day at school when you’re taught to compete with each other.  It’s already there.  And you’re taught to do that all…

James: Competition is used to learn, but it’s kind of terrible I think.

Alan: And it works on your basic, exploiting the basic fears that we have within this system, which is not fear of being left alone by a tribe, which it used to be.  That wouldn’t happen in the old tribal system.  With money came in the isolation of everyone from everyone else.  And you didn’t help each other out.  Each one was racing ahead, trying to keep up for themselves, not for the whole group.  And so that, all your fears were exploited and that’s your basic fears of loneliness, poverty, ill health, all those things, starvation.  They’re exploited in this system.  And it depends on our corruption, our personal corruption to keep itself going.  It needs that to keep itself going.  But we could all, we all know what’s right and wrong within ourselves and how the system could be, if we all trusted each other, and not be stupid, either.  There’s always the psychopath amongst every level here, right down to the bottom, but we all know what’s right and what’s wrong and what kind of world it could be without all the exploitation of everyone else.  We worship those who have clawed and stabbed their way up to the top, to become multibillionaires.  People worship the stars.  That’s why they give us the stars.  Even on your newscasts you get half of Hollywood and the stars.  People who are very rich, and really haven’t done much to get it.  And then, when you go into the lives of some of them to find out how they did get up there, you’re kind of shocked, and maybe not so shocked.  It’s a dog-eat-dog system from the top to the bottom.  And we worship the guys, the top crooks who can get up there.  And that’s what they are.  That’s what they are at the top.

James: I’m sitting here, for lack of a better word, I’m saying Amen, brother.  I mean, it is just crazy.  There’s no other way to say it.  And we are literally willingly doing it.  Now, how much do you think metaphysical influence do we have, other than simple flashing light and buttons down here.  Do you think there is a spiritual war behind the scenes, doing the same thing, from another dimension, astral dimension or what have you?

Alan: There’s a spiritual war for sure.  Rather than classify it, it’s much easier to realize what they’ve given you in the past, in all the major religions too.  And they always give you the little warnings.  And they say, fear not those that can crush the body, because they can do that at any time.  But fear those that can kill the body and the soul.  It’s the soul they want to kill.  It’s that spark that is actually you.  It’s what they call the psyche.  It’s you, your whole mind, you as a person, not the body you inhabit.  It’s your mind, it’s everything that is you.  They want to destroy that.  And if you look at most people today who have come through the last twenty, thirty years, they’re dead before they’re forty or fifty.  Physically, mentally, they’re dead.  They just come in and zonk out in front of televisions.  They’re in a routine. They’re waiting to go to the old folks home and die off.  I mean, they’re dead already.  The spark of life, the zest has gone out of them.  Their soul has been destroyed.  And that’s a technique again, which they understand at the top.  To retain that spark that is actually you and never to lose it, through all the things that come your way, is the ultimate goal here.  You must retain that.  When you do, you are alive.  You are really alive.

James: You’re not advocating a mass conscious change in as much as an individual conscious change, which will result in a mass conscious change.

Alan: I wouldn’t say it will result in the mass.  I’ve never said that the masses would ever survive.  It’s never happened in previous times.  In a sense, you see, every individual is choosing what they want in every age, and what they’re going to do with it in every age.  They’re deciding for themselves.  It’s not a mass movement.  It never was a mass movement, this world.  The masses always go the way of matter.  And that’s what they choose, ultimately.

James: I guess that’s been my problem.  You mentioned about what you’re saying about the mass way, like the narrow road versus the wide road, etc.  It’s all over the place.  But, I guess my thinking was, is if people around are simply kind of blindly following this path that’s been laid out that’s destructive in front of them, and that a person around them in their sphere of influence has a different path, they may be awakened by osmosis so to speak to another choice for no other reason, than, well, what is that?  I think I’ll try that.  And then, once they’re there they see the benefit of it.  And I guess that’s a big assumption that I’m making that really.

Alan: Well, you’ll always find that someone who can grasp what you’re saying has already been doing some thinking along that way for themselves.  That’s what you’ll find.  Someone who’s, and this is true, it’s even in Masonry too.  They call the people the profane.  And they mean the dead by it.  And that’s what’s behind all religions, when you’re picked up from the dead, you stand up, you pick up your bed and walk.  It’s the occultic stuff, written into all religions.  It’s the same story in all religions, actually.  So, when you stand up you become alive.  That’s what it means.  And you’re given life.  However you can’t make someone do it.  They must want to do it for themselves individually.  It’s always, always been this way for thousands and thousands and thousands of years.  So there’s truths in there, heavily covered up, of course, for the masses.  But you cannot make a person wake up, if they don’t want to.  It’s almost a choice to stay where they are in slumber.  And some people will tell you, they’re afraid to wake up because they’ll have to change their worldview on every single thing that they ever thought they knew.

James: Oh, yes.  It is literally everything.  It’s like when you turn from looking toward the left to toward the right, your peripheral view still looks at things and so forth and so on, but when you actually wake up to this paradigm shift, you’re in another whole world.  I mean, and I’m just picking up an analogy or whatever, but if you look at a TV, and you look at someplace to educate.  And you take this red pill as the Matrix says, and you wake up on the other side, you see the whole structure of that destroying, destroying matter, sending beams into your head, programming yourself, the companies behind it trying to maximize their profits and pay people small.  I mean, it’s just this whole thing.  It’s like, holy cow, it’s just a TV, and it turns out to be this whole system involved that you can see through.

Alan: Absolutely.  It’s the biggest tool that’s ever been used for culture creation and alteration and guidance, worldwide.

James: I’ve got a part of the chat room here, it says, once you wake up a little, you need someone there who knows the rest of the way out or at least, is a couple of steps ahead of you, so you’re not thinking you’re crazy.  Because, as you start waking up, it’s like, wait a minute, everybody is wrong everywhere at all times.  It’s like wait a minute, I’m the one that’s crazy.  Can I be the one waking up and everyone else around me is wrong, and so, it’s good to have someone there who has at least a couple of steps ahead or around, so they can say, yeah, yeah, and help you out of there.

Alan: Yeah, that’s true.  It’s true.  If a person is totally sincere, because there’s no such thing as I want to wake up, but I want to hold on to some of that which I believed in before.  I always liken it to freefalling from an aircraft.  You jump out there, with or without a parachute, generally without, and you must be willing to do it, not knowing where you’re going to fall and how you’re going to land, because if you’re truly earnest in wanting “the truth” you must be willing to discard everything you ever thought you knew.

James: Now, that’s a very sobering point.  In my life I’m in a position where I had no choice but to literally discard everything and start from zero.  I mean, it was almost to the point, do I go to death or insanity, meaning like, just turning off, whatever that means.  Or, do I allow myself to be rebuilt from the bottom up.  And I chose to go with, well, I’m talking with you, so I didn’t choose to die, but I choose to submit to truth.  And I believe, and I don’t even know why, that there was a truth, there was a benign force, literally that was interested in empowering me to be the best I could be, to learn, to understand, without taking anything from me.  And we’ll call that God.  And by believing in that, I took this step forward, I leaped out of the plane, basically.  And the good news is, that even though, as bad as it sounds, once the readjusting starts to get, you know a little bit, you get some facts together and you start to see things, you won’t want to go back.  It’s like you can’t imagine how you even were there.

Alan: It’s a completely different you that emerges.  And this is what has always happened again with individuals, as I say in every age.  In every age being a period of time, that’s called ages, just so we can recognize when one they’re talking about for historical use.  But that’s always happened.  It’s an individual thing, where you’re born again, and it was adapted into a Christian religion.  It was even pre-Gnostic.  It always existed, but it happened by being so sick of the present you and how you related to the world and your own indoctrination you had to literally die from it.  That’s what it meant.  You died and you were reborn.  You died to the old, the old understandings of everything, and you became reborn.  Meaning you started afresh, with a completely new perception, on everything that you looked at.  That’s what it’s always meant, in all lands in all ages.

James: And it’s almost like there’s a small portion of people, whatever that number is, that will actually see this, and that number is kind of written into the equation and so that are we’ll say, the dark forces, are going to be like, yeah, a few will get away, but we’ll get hold of them.

Alan: Yes.  And what they do is they understand this process, and that’s why they put all, so many of the fakes out there to distract the people into cults and into the so-called esoteric groups that have them dancing around in circles and doing all kinds of rituals, so they make sure that you get trapped up in those things, for the unwary, and most of the people will actually go that way, again, because of their training from a previous type of religion, with ritual, with all of that stuff, they’ll look for something familiar and that’s why you have these groups with their degrees and all the nonsense.  And all it does is put you back in another prison.

James: Yeah, I was surprised, when I got out of, we’ll call it the Judeo-Christian type of religious structure, which does not have anything to do with Jesus or God.  It’s like the structure.  I went into a kind of a New Age structure, like okay, I really went back to zero, I want to learn, start all over again, I’ll learn every side.  I’d listen to anybody.  I mean, I didn’t jump in, but I listened.  And I was very, one spiritual teacher after the other, one after the other.  I learned a lot of stuff from them, but one thing I universally learned is every single one of them was like meet your new boss, it’s the same as the old boss.  You’ve got to do it my way.  Here’s the rules, here’s the levels, if you’re not, you’re going to be shunned and you’re going to be made fun of and thrown out.  And I was like, wait a minute.  That’s not New Age. That’s Old Age.  It’s the same old story, with just another king.

Alan: That’s right.  That’s right and they have professionals, you know, trained.  I don’t know if people realize that MI5 and MI6 in England, London, the British version of the CIA, much older, much wiser.  In fact, they created the CIA from the OSS.  MI5 and 6 have a complex in England, where they train people to go out into the world to create mystery and confusion.  And they admitted in declassified documentation a few years ago that they sent Aleister Crowley out, the high Freemason to set up a new branch of Freemasonry to attract the youth in for the coming New Age.  And he started the channeling stuff and all of that, made it popular, made the drugs popular to go along with it, the free sex, all that kind of stuff.  And that was created by a division of the British Secret Service.  They haven’t stopped, they haven’t stopped, believe you me.

James: It seems like when you put it into those terms that selling drugs or getting drugs into the inner cities is not that much of a stretch.

Alan: And make it popular.  Make the youth want it.  Tell them that they can channel entities, they can bring Egyptian gods into them, and let their imagination just go rampant.  And then you have your chaos going.  Then you control the chaos.  It’s much easier to create chaos and then guide the outcome of it, give the solution.  And that was all generated years before the sexual liberation, years before the pop revolution, rock revolution, and all the revolutions.  They’re real revolutions.  A revolution is a turning around.  That’s what to revolve means.  And they use revolutions.  Most of them are bloodless, but they change the culture, and they’re planned way ahead of time.  And they sent Crowley out there in the 1910s and the 1920s, to set up that whole structure of the OTO, the Order Templi Orientis, another branch of Freemasonry which they created to bring the youth in.  And you find most of them who end up in the rock bands and the groups all belong to the OTO.  That attracted them in.  It’s all through their music.

James: Well, when you put all that together, I bet there’s a lot of people out there who are listening who are just gelling together.  I mean they’re starting to come together.  They’re going wow.  You know, they’re getting little goose bumps, and whatever kind of internal type of a, I call it a resonance.  When I hear truth, there’s a deep inside profound resonance, and I really can’t even go farther than that.  And when I actually go check it out, I learn, I just didn’t believe anything, and I just didn’t believe me.  I went and checked it out, and so I had more and more conscious resonance.  What do you do when someone says, you know, they’re waking up now, and they’re seeing this, they’re seeing the terrorism turn into this thing I was talking about.  They’re seeing the destruction in their life.  The church, even though the people in their church may themselves be nice people, they’re still part of the church.  What do you tell them?  It’s like the gospel when you go to a Baptist Church and they take you and they give you these lists, and they follow all this stuff.  In your case, you’re still going to have to tell them something, even though you don’t want to make them disciples; but what do you say to somebody who’s just waking up from this?

Alan: You have to feed them little bits.  You can’t feed them a lot at once, because you overwhelm them with what you know.  It’s impossible.  It’s like trying to get a thousand volts into a one-and-a-half volt battery.

James: What would be like the first step you know, in the general sense, what would you recommend?

Alan: You help them, really, rather than impart information, you help them to start thinking.  Because, up until then they haven’t done much thinking for themselves.  You, there’s a process to thinking, truly, which they haven’t even begun.  Because even from kindergarten right through the schooling system they’ve had indoctrination, but they haven’t been taught how to think logically or critically.  At one time critical thinking and logic were taught in schools.  That’s been completely eradicated now, and now it’s all groupthink and consensus for democracy, and where individualism is frowned upon and shunned in fact, and punished.  So, they haven’t, especially those who are maybe thirty and under, they haven’t, they don’t know how to think for themselves.  When they do try and think for themselves they’ll explain whatever they’re talking about through a series of movies that they’ve watched.  And they don’t realize that’s where every idea and conclusion that they’re now coming to has been given to them is from the movies, you see.  They’ve never ever thought originally for themselves.

James: Well, I think that’s a good point that when you’re waking up or thinking, it’s like never realizing that to stand up it’s going to be a little weak at times.  You’re going to have to learn how to think.  I mean, it really is becoming a born again, in the most literal sense, and also I’m glad to hear you not, and I missed this in our little group of people, I call them program observers.  One of the things is, we’re noticing that you’re not looking to follow.  You’re not trying to set yourself up to be a leader.  You are out there kind of walking around, you know, from my perspective, sharing your wisdom, but you’re not, looking to, you know what I’m saying, you’re not looking to make the followers of Alan Watt.

Alan: That’s right.  And also, to be honest with you, I’d rather teach a very few in a lifetime than masses of people.  And those who teach masses of people are always used, ultimately, and abused and because their ego grows so huge.  And so they fall for traps laid in their way, and then their followers go around in circles as well, and then leave and go off to another group.  That’s not how truth works.  Truth works, as I say, on an individual basis, and where as in the past I’ve taught individuals, a very select few.  I won’t take anybody on, or for money either, for that matter.  So, I have to know they have the qualities and the genuineness has to be there, and the ability to understand and learn has to be there, because you put an incredible amount of energy yourself into a person, in more ways than simply talking to them, there’s more to it, than all of that.  You give a lot of yourself bringing a person up into life, you know.  So, it can be exhausting.

James: Oh, yes.  In my case, not that I’m any kind of messiah, but I’ve got these things, and I’ve woken up along the way, and I went to people, I went to people thinking, wow, look at this.  They’d go, wow, you know, which is almost never.  And secondly, it was almost like my responsibility to do it.  I felt responsible to share with people and I learned that that’s not my responsibility.  My responsibility is for me to wake up and for me to get this stuff together, and then, as I go through life, I will connect with people along the way and share information, like I’m doing with the show.  I have you on, and other people on, sharing information.  I’m not attached to them making sure that they know what I’m saying or they know what you’re saying, it’s just, here’s what said.  You know, some of it is incompatible, incompatible with other principles.  And it’s up to the people out there who listen to it, and it puts in their head, yeah, okay.  It’s not up to me to make them, or feel responsible.  When I became not responsible, it was like the weight that came off my shoulders was incredible.

Alan: Oh, absolutely.  You unload a tremendous burden when you really do break through.  You dump such a heavy, heavy burden of indoctrination, and you do.  You feel free for the first time.

James: Isn’t it funny how we’re taking phrases here that are literally direct quotes from Jesus, and those same phrases are said in a church and the differences between the two.  I mean, we’re literally talking freedom here, and they’re literally talking slavery.

Alan: They are talking slavery, because as a group, who are authorized to exist by the system they serve, you’ll find that the huge churches are part of the whole culture creation structure, and they stand up for this system no matter how inhumane it is.  It’s incredible how they can even pretend they’re following one type of religion, while they promote and practice the other.  They allow their tax money to go to make bombs to slaughter people all over the planet.  And all this kind of thing.  They allow their tax money to be used for aborting children all over the place, and used for research and development to ultimately clone us and to perfect types of workers.  They applaud this system and stand up for it.  It’s amazing.  And yet, they’re such hypocrites, because they should be on the streets promoting the opposite of all of that.  You know.  But they’re not.  And they wear their suits and ties, the Masonic uniform too, and they don’t even understand they’re in Masonic organizations.

James: Well, I could keep going on and on here.  We’re coming to the end.  I wanted to make sure to give time to people to get a hold of you in any way you want to be put out there so they can learn and draw from all the items you have, such as your website.

Alan: They can look into cuttingthroughthematrix.com, and there’s other mirror sites going up all the time.  And all I have really is the lack of time. But they can get lots of shows for free there.  And they can buy the few things that I have up there, which helps to keep the whole thing going, so far.

James: In fact I had a person who wrote in here, was heralding the fact that I have free archives compared to others like Jeff Rense who you have to pay.  And I said, well, I can assure you that while the archives may be free, it is not free to make them.

Alan: That’s right.

James: And I rely on people who see the value of it, who will either buy the products or donate money or what have you, because it takes an incredible amount of time and energy to do something, and the drive is not to be famous or rich, the drive is to share the information.

Alan: Absolutely, absolutely.  In fact, this is the only, there’s nothing else to do for me in this world except do what I’m doing, because nothing else can compare to it.  There’s nothing else as urgent, either.  There’s nothing out there.

James: Well, I agree.  You know, I tell you, I’m encouraged to hear you talk on these things that are, you know, keep on keeping on.  It underlines the necessity of getting information out there for people to, and I love it.  I’m a listener as well as the host of the show.  I learn, it’s like, a long time ago someone gave me a statement.  He said, if you want to learn, teach.  And in this case, I don’t end up teaching as much as I put the whole thing together, and I learn a lot, and I ask the questions, and we have the open lines and have people ask, and it’s very important for that, so.

Alan: Yeah, absolutely.

James: Cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  That’s really the best way to do it and then, from there you have a bunch of other items.  Well, I appreciate it.  I’m going to end up here with my man here going to cut us off, but I appreciate you being here and talking about these items, and I’d like to have you back on and be in touch with lots of other things, and I wish you well, and keep on keeping on.

Alan: I’ll do the best I can.

James: And you know what, that’s all you can do and it’s rarely the whole idea of somebody doing the best they can do has become foreign now.  It’s doing the least you can do, get the most out of it, get the least amount of quality you’re experiencing.  Well, God Bless you.

Alan: And the same for you.

James: Thanks, we’ll be talking.

Alan: Thanks for having me on.

James: Alan Watt, Cutting Through the Matrix.  It is, I’ll tell you, it’s good to hear that stuff.  It’s real and it’s the deal and if you don’t listen, and let stuff come in, you’re just doomed to kind of just wander around.  And actually there are people who don’t want to know, they don’t want to learn the stuff, and they want to wander around, and of course in that one movie, the Matrix, it shows a guy like that.  But, it’s wake-up time, and we’re all waking up.  We can all do it together.

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ALAN WATT    BLURB

"SING YOUR SONG AND

STEAL SOME TIME"

February 28, 2007

Hi, folks. This is Alan Watt at cuttingthroughthematrix.com. February 28, 2007.

It started with a beautiful sky this morning, then watched the planes coming in to do their magic act with their crisscrossing massive trails, right across from east to west and north to south, making all kinds of weird and wonderful patterns with chemicals. Some of the planes even did u-turns and partial circles. Quite artistic in a sense. Maybe they're getting more artists than just pilots, unemployed maybe artists, because they're getting more creative with the sky mapping. Big "Xs" as well because "X" marks the spot.

However, we're not supposed to notice all this you see. It's a hush-hush thing. We're supposed to be diverted and look at Iran because well my goodness, who would have thought – who would have thought that all the times that we were growing up in different generations that secretly the Iranians were the masterminds to take over the whole planet, and at least that's what's emerging now from all the propaganda that's coming out of the West as they've got to demonize the enemy. Very old techniques: Terrify the publics of the world into lots of weird and unimaginable crisis caused by these nasty people over there and then go in and do something about it, so much so, that people will eventually breathe a sigh of relief when you go in and blow them all to smithereens. That's the standard techniques of demonization and dehumanization too of the enemy.

We've watched it time after time down through countless centuries. Same techniques, same formula and the drums beat. The newspapers go into action with little snippets of my God, the Iranians are going to destroy the American food crops. They've been secretly – possibly secretly – reengineering all the food plants and it will knock out the crops in the US breadbasket.

Well you see that's nonsense because it's already being done by Monsanto and all the big boys since they've modified everything there is to modify, including some of the insects, but the drum beats go on and after Iran it will be straight through into Syria since that's the agenda. That's the New American Century Plan – the Project for a New American Century all coming to pass and we're supposed to sit back, get terrified of these masterminds over there in Iran who have been secretly planning to take over the whole planet and kept it so secret up until now, we had no idea – no idea.

At one time we thought it was the Soviets that were going to do it and then it was the Chinese, but no, it's the Iranians. That's the real masterminds and who would have thought?  This is the childish propaganda that unfortunately works so well. Why change a formula when it does work. Same old script: Demonize the enemy, terrify your own public until they're relieved when you go in and invade the enemy. Standard tricks.

You know you can condition people to almost expect tragedy. In psychology they know that a person who's afraid of everything secretly in a sense wishes for it and it isn't until their worst fears materialize that they feel a temporary relief, like a phobic person; yet they can train people, normal people to experience this.

We're on a rush now for a new planet, a new way of living, the global community where we live in little communes and this little commune over here will make the soles of the shoes for the planet and this other commune will make the upper tongue for the shoes and another bunch will make the laces for the shoes, and we'll dress with flowers in our hair and beat tambourines doing simple peasant folk dances; while the elite jet-set all over the planet and drop into what were once country areas for the weekend of camping with all their servants from helicopters because there'll be nobody left on the rural areas. They'll all be moved into the habitat areas making the shoes and laces and stuff to be self-supporting. We've got a wonderful plan, eh?

It's like something out of a fairy story and yet that's literally what the "Agenda 21" system from the United Nations is all about, "Agenda 21" where we'll all live in happy little folk-type communes with fixed populations.

I used to wonder about that actually when I first came to Canada and whether you're driving through Canada or the U.S. after you see all the Masonic signs as you're driving into a town you have a big board with all – it's telling you right away this is a Masonically controlled community. Then you'll see a billboard with the population of the town and I used to wonder how could they get it so even because they'd have 2,000 or 2,100 or 2,200, but it was always even figures and I thought, "my goodness, this is awfully good population control." It was never 2,951 or anything like that.  In this upcoming habitat society it will be even more perfect and actual.

You'll have to keep a fixed population because the UN is supposed to dispense all the food ultimately when they are the big stick or benefactors. They'll dish out the food to each country as they've said themselves and it will be up to the elite of each country to keep the population in control because you won't be given extra bread for extra mouths. No doubt once that's on the books and it's working and so many are getting aborted and "we're breeding for our needs" as they say in this practical society that's to come, they'll then readjust it and make it lower and lower until there's only a few peasants making the shoes for the whole planet and the shoe laces and so on. That's what will happen. They don't need such masses of people anymore.

We're all the "useless eaters". You see, if you're not up there by Darwin's standards, the Darwin socialists that run the world, if we haven't made it to the top and stayed there for a few generations, showing we've got good genes, you see, if we haven't made it there, then we're the refuse. We're the "junk genes" that they talk about. We're the junk. We're the left behind amoebas that aren't going to progress any further and become a real person and so we're all failures. That's just it. This is the science – this is all the stuff that comes out of the scientific discussions if you understand what they're saying.

If you listen to the eugenics societies which are now called "Bioethics Committees" – Bioethics Committees. Isn't that nice and warm and fuzzy for the same guys and same offspring actually of the same eugenicists who used to write massive books on the shape of your ear lobe and where your eyebrows were to decide if you had criminal traits. It's the same bunch but they're now called as I say bioethics committees and they have discussed everything under the sun, including who should live and die, all to serve this wonderful upcoming system.

No one voted these guys in. They just appeared one day when they first came out with the "test tube babies."  That was the first rumblings that something was beginning to form to take care of this for the people. For goodness sake, we couldn't let the people get involved in this discussion. No, that would never do, so they gradually had these foundations set up, funded from who knows where, but the bankers will throw their cash in there no doubt. When any major thing has to be decided to do with genetic engineering, reengineering, or euthanasia or any of these problems that they have, we have these bioethics committees that are non-governmental but have governmental input. Isn't that something?

See, our whole lives are run by a new type Soviet and that's what the Soviet meant. It was government by committees. We are living in "The Third Wave" of Alvin Toffler, the title of his book where capitalism and communism comes together to go third way, where the elite will still run the show, a sovietized communistic bureaucracy of those lobsters they call "bureaucrats."  You know the ones that sit there with the steely eyes and don't see you as a person. They're just like a lobster looking at you. Well the bureaucrats will be communized and they will take care of the masses beneath them.  That's what it all about, the third way, the combination of capitalism and communism. All planned in advance, discussed internationally in advance.

Gorbachev wrote about it in his own book, "Towards A New Civilization," the merging of the two systems and they were set up as apparent opposites by the old, old ancient brotherhood who understand all this stuff and are taught this from a very early age. If you want a change to come, you've got to put forth an alteration to get a counter to the alteration and then come to a compromise and the compromise itself is the new way, the change. Thesis, antithesis and synthesis. You control all sides. You can't simply do it by making a move when no one opposes you. Stubborn refusal to be involved doesn't go very well with them. You've got to get involved so they make you involved one way or another and then when you get something coming out of it that you'd never imagined, they can turn around honestly well you voted us in you see.  This is the technique of management of the herd as they say.

Thousands of years ago, they had their little folk sayings, as we always used to have little folk sayings. Little ditties that would make sense like proverbs and they used to say that when an individual child is born your nature was your song and so you'd have songs for so-and-so and you had the Song of Solomon, even though that's esoteric and doesn't mean what you think it does, but you sang your song. That was living your life because the song was your life.

In the old natural systems each person would have their song. Some American Indians would have their particular individual song, like a theme tune. That was their way of communicating with whatever was out beyond them which they sensed. A communication so they communicated by their personal song. Everyone should have their song and what a tragedy to watch people literally mentally and by the destruction of the soul giving up that spark so early on in life and simply living to get old. There's no fire left in them. The song has gone out of them.

I've been involved in music. I know what can be done to a song but also I know what can be done to your own song of life. Then we go through the school system where they pick apart your brain and then reshape it into what's authorized and if you can't conform you’re on Ritalin. I don't think anyone says it better than Melanie who sings it with gusto.

"Look What They've Done to My Song, Ma"

By Melanie

Look what they've done to my song, ma

Look what they've done to my song, ma

It was the only thing I could do half right

And it's turning out all wrong, ma

Look what they've done to my song.

Look what they've done to my brain, ma

Look what they've done to my brain

Well they picked it like a chicken bone

And I think I'm half insane, ma

Look what they've done to my song.

I wish that I could find a good book to live in

Wish I could find a good book

Well if I cold find a real good book

I'd never have to come out and look at

Look what they've done to my song.

Ils ont change ma chanson ma

Ils ont change ma chanson

C'est la seule chose que je peuz faire

Et ce n'est pas bon ma

Ils ont change ma chanson.

Look what they've done to my song, ma

Look what they've done to my song

Well they tied it up in a plastic bag and they turned it upside down, ma

Look what they've done to my song.

Maybe, maybe it'll all be all right ma,

Maybe it'll all be OK

Well if the people are buying tears, I'm going to be a rich girl someday, ma

Look at what they've done to my song.

Look what they've done to my song, ma

Look what they've done to my song

Well they tied it up in a plastic bag and they turned it upside down, ma

Look what they've done

There's nothing, it's turning out all wrong, mama

Look they've done to my song oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaking of songs, back in about 1844 I think it was Hebbel who wrote a ballad called "Der Heideknabe."  It was about a little boy going through his life and every fear that he had that could happen, every nightmare, did happen, a form of fulfillment of your worst fears. What we have in this system, in this world is a perpetual fear mongering from the media because the media is part of government. To control people you've got to enemies. You've got to have a reason for the suits and ties at the top to stand proudly and gesticulate and pose and read the speeches that are written for them, to tell us all how they're going to take care of the problems, even the ones that might be, all the might be's that are out there, all the fears of what could be, to keep us in perpetual childhood.

 

 

 

It's only in childhood that you expect all of your fears and problems to be taken care of by those who are older, and what a nightmare to wake up and find out the ones that are older don't know any better than you do. Boy, that's scary, isn't it?  All that time you looked up to adults who were just as confused as you were. They were just better actors. That's the world we live in and this same technique is used to control the minds of people, especially in this artificial system which runs on what we're told is a big gambling casino called the stock market where everyone's future is gambled away on a roulette table every day, and depending on the outcome of these masters of the game, we either crash or we keep going on and your job is going to be there tomorrow or it could be gone under in the blink of an eye, depending on how that roulette table, that wheel, spins and where it stops.

Thank goodness we have all these masters of things we haven’t a clue of understanding to take care of all of it for us and the reason we can't understand it is because it's all bogus. Whenever you cannot understand how anything works that is vital to your life and your survival and the survival of others, there's a CON GAME going on. You're being fooled deliberately. It's like science.

You see, science can be applied to anything. You can call anything science. You can create your own sciences if you want to, and put an 'ology' on the end, doctrine, you see, or an 'ism.'  'Ism' also means doctrine so you can create an 'ology' or an 'ism' and tack it on the end of a word and it could be your doctrine and you can give a lot of scientific terms because the first thing you must do with any science is create your own vocabulary, then only those you allow into the little secret club will know the secret meanings. Everyone else will be terribly impressed but completely confused and then you can give degrees out to your own people and then lord over those who are impressed but very confused. That's what sciences are.

You know, psychiatry will be the first to tell you they cannot cure anything. They cannot cure mental illness. In fact, the definition of "mental illness" is very obscure. After all, if the norm is whatever is authorized for the majority at any one period in life or the ages, then anything outside of that is therefore deviant and therefore abnormal and therefore ill.  So the whole idea is to get everyone into the majority thing, which is authorized by the big think at the top, and then you're healthy.

We’re taught to go to school everyday, put in so many hours and go back home at night or evening and to get you prepared for work. That's what it was always for, to get you into a routine where you'd go to work to earn something called "money," which is too mysterious. It's a whole doctrine. There's no point in trying to understand it.

One day these five pennies will buy this much bread. The next day it will be that much bread or less or more or whatever and it's all a "big mystery." It’s all a big mystery. In the old barter days before the CON MAN came along with money got involved, you would have two people who would exchange this for that and they would decide between the two how much of this you'd trade for how much of that. That was it because value and a price is only an idea. That's all it is, someone's idea.

And in come the third party who conned them into using this thing called money, which you can't eat, and silver and gold are pretty useless for most things that you need. They're no use for tools, but here you are.  You’re getting something which is hard to find or harder to find. That's why they picked that. The Phoenicians were using it thousands of years ago. They knew this too. They had miners on the go, all slaves. Slave workers and the con man got in between the two people who bartered, made them believe it was the same value. A bag of oats is worth a bag of wheat and then once he had the whole system under his thumb he says, "oh well, we need 10 bags of that oats to go for that one bag of wheat," and when you ask them why he'd tell you about scarcity of supply and demand and all this kind of stuff and use his new-speak on you and eventually you throw your hands up and say, "geeze, if I have to understand all of this I'll never get any work done," and he says, "that's what I want," and you went back to work and he ran the money.

Nothing has really changed up until the present. This is the CON GAME of money. They used to tell you, too, just work hard and you'll get up there in life. You'll get on in life. You can get out of those scrubby old clothes and just work very, very hard and you'll get noticed at work and you'll even get a suit and tie one day and you'll be up in management positions. It's like pointing to a cave and telling 10 million people to run and try and get in there. It doesn't dawn on everyone that only so many will fit into that cave. You couldn't all get in, so there can only be one or two or three or four or a few at the most, and yet this is the CON GAME that was pulled on everyone. Just work hard and you get up in life.

Isn’t it strange no matter how many generations have worked hard they still really don't have much at all? Really, when you boil it down, they rent a place which they think they've bought. They get demand twice a year at least from different branches of government demanding money for this shell that they have like a tortoise shell, only a tortoise shell is more enduring than little sticky things we have here called houses, but money's demanded from them. They still believe it's theirs and tell you that "well I bought this place" as he pays thousands of dollars for the privilege of owning this place and what you've just got yourself, apart from a lifelong headache of repairing these ticky-tacky houses, which aren't meant to last in the first place and it does keep the lumber business going and all the tool places going, what you've got are four walls really. Four walls containing lots of air.

If you discard all the stuff that's inside, all the things you're supposed to have and all the plastic junk from China and all that stuff that you're supposed to have is authorized that you have it. In fact, they would complain that you were neglecting your children if you don't have all that junk, so you can't win in this system by following the system. All you've done is enclosed a lot of air and you get taxed for the privilege of breathing inside that shell, which you don't own but you've paid for, and when you go bankrupt and kicked off in the street and the bank seized or the government seized it, but one of the two will seize it you see, and there's no mercy anywhere. We wouldn't put an animal out like this but you put humans out like that because others might get the idea that "oh we've got rights."

They put you out in the street and then the banks flip it again and some other young pair of schmucks buy it and start all over again. It’s a tremendous CON GAME in business and even if you die, if you manage to get through all the battles in life and crawl through battle-scarred to the bitter end and then you die in the place and put it in a Will for relatives, well in they come and take it for death duties. Did you know you had a duty to do with death?  "Death duties" they call it and all those years of frantic worrying and repairing and paying and paying and paying go no where. They'll seize it too if they don't get their cut.

Who introduced this income tax and property tax et cetera and death duties?

Well, who introduced it in Britain was an organization, non-governmental but with the full backing of the British Crown, the Royal Institute of International Affairs were the first ones to bring the property tax out, demand it, the income tax, death duties and so on; and who did in the USA?  Their brothers. Their brother company, the Council on Foreign Relations brethren and they have that in their own books and they're proud of it.

They should really give prizes to these people for conning generations of people. Now it's true they generally bring a lot of this stuff in when they have major wars and things going, which is fairly common for them, and we don't notice it so much during the crisis periods and immediately after a war people are so war weary they just want some peace. They don't want any more involvement with major problems and decisions and fear et cetera, so they try and push it all out of their mind. The next generation grows up thinking it's always been this way, it must be normal.

Shortly it will be normal to go into get a chip in your brain at a certain age and they'll think it's normal because mom and dad did it, or maybe they won't have mom and dad or maybe mom and dad will be one person. In fact, maybe they'll be cloned from mom and dad in one person. It gets awfully confusing, doesn't it?  This is the Brave New World that we've been led along to.

In the Matrix movie, Morpheus who changes shape in every era, you see, and always says the same thing in every era every time. He says to Neo, he says, "you're a slave Neo." You wouldn't believe the relief that people get when it suddenly hits them they're a slave. All the fears they've had, the worries tend to vanish like a massive weight is taken off your shoulders because suddenly you understand things. You understand why things aren't working out for you. You understand now that you've done all the right things but you haven't got what you were taught you were going to get, this great big award at the end of your life, and stop blaming yourself for not achieving that which you were supposed to achieve and you can throw away that underachiever guilt complex because achievement doesn't come by hard work. It comes by who you know and what societies and organizations you have joined. That's how it comes. That's the real world. That's the real world.

People wonder what can be done on a personal level when they look at this world and feel overwhelmed by all the terror in news, where everything is going to fail and epidemics are coming our way. Oh, we're warming up the planet. Must be all those jet engines from the special aircraft as they spray. El Nino and yah-de-yah-de-yah and this is all techniques of controlling people because government needs panic in order to give out orders for control and to maintain control. That's why in war situations they get away with so much.

People give up everyday rights thinking it's for the greater good and the governments have a field day with that. They love to take away rights to make themselves feel more secure because egotists that crawl to the top and stab their way to the top want power and those who crave power think everyone else must be the same as themselves, so they become ultimately ruthless. Therefore the more panic they can create in order to protect you and justify their reason for being tyrants, the more they will do and that's your history. That's your history in detail in fact. That's all you have to really know.

Same techniques over and over again. Well, the individual can do a lot.  It’s not a matter of going out and evangelizing to those you know best. You'll be looked upon as a space alien or a reptilian person or some nonsense like that because you're talking a language that doesn't come from the six o'clock news. You're giving them details and facts about things which really are foreign content to them. They haven't got it from their newspeak, the television set. If it came on the television set then they would listen and talk and converse about the subject, but if you're telling them things which are not from that six o'clock news you must be talking from another planet. So don't evangelize to those around you unless you want to alienate them from you and why cause trouble for yourself that way when it's pointless anyway.

You must seek out those who are asking questions. It doesn’t mean that you'll end up on the same path necessarily by teaching them or exchanging views, but at least you can get certain topics broached and you can bounce ideas back and forth. When you're up against a system that's thousands of years old, at least thousands of years old, a science, you don't expect to knock it down in one fell swoop. You've got to take time to chip it away and you'd be surprised how the largest object will come down when you just chip away like a beaver.

I've watched beavers go to work on trees until they have almost a pencil point of a tree trunk balancing on the other point of another pencil. That's what it looks like and they are terrific engineers. They know how long it's going to take to finish this tree. They know where they want it to fall, which direction they want it to fall and when to get out of the way when it starts falling. They know all of that and they have patience. Patience and when you watch a beaver he does it on his own. He doesn’t go around saying, "gee, that's a huge tree. I better get a whole bunch of beaver here and we can all go at it."  He starts his own chipping away. He doesn't look for confirmation. Am I doing a good job? He just knows he is because he's got patience and this big monster of a tree will eventually fall and it will fall exactly where you wanted it to fall and afterwards he doesn't go around for applause. He's done for what was for him "a natural thing."

The largest things can fall by the axe and patience of someone who puts some life into what they're doing. When you realize there's a real war going on, very deceptive, well camouflaged, but you understand what it is, you realize that everything else takes second or third place and then you start putting your life into something that's real and worthwhile.

And just like the beaver, you don't look around for applause at the end of it. The reason there's information to be passed on is because people in past ages, few to be sure but enough to pass on the information did so and that's made all the difference in the world in a very specific way.

The reason the deception is used today to control masses of people is because of the people who were awake in previous ages passing on knowledge. Otherwise, we'd all chipped long ago or lobotomized long ago, completely lobotomized. It's only been the more cautious and devious way of governments way of getting around that that's lead them to create such a system of massive propaganda and indoctrination through television and media and schooling. It wouldn't be necessary except for people who passed on the knowledge and wisdom through countless centuries.

The people who could point to the king and say, "he has no clothes," and break the spell that held the masses. That's what it takes, but it takes life. When you look at what people really are doing with themselves, they're doing what's authorized to be "good citizens," upstanding, upright, all those Masonic terms, all these authorized things and yet they're not alive. They're not living. They’re putting time in. They're killing time really and as they kill time they're killing themselves and there's nothing more worthwhile that brings a flame alive than getting involved, keeping your cool as you do it and passing on just enough information here and there that maybe one day will light the fire in someone else when the words come back to them that you have uttered at the right time. That's how knowledge has been passed on. Otherwise, the whole planet would be watching sports and thank goodness with all the massive indoctrinations they haven't reached that stage yet.

To put so much into a few lines sometimes, you have to check yourself because so much can be contained in a few words, words being a language and the way you put them together must come from your own heart. When it does and there's no show put on, no bluff, no CON GAME at work, you reach people. Simply be sincere but make sure that you believe in what you're saying first and you will find that people come alive because they can't debate or argue when it truly comes from the heart.

I think it was Heine who said, "Aus meinen grossen leiden mach ich die kleinen lieder," which is said, "From my great sorrows, I make small songs."  In other words, the depths of areas you allow yourself to go into with the emotions which are part of being human can bring out tremendous wisdom and yet you can never condense everything you've learned into even a book about it because you personally have learned so much.

You know we live in a world where most people truly are afraid to contact people around them or simply say something they want to say for fear of breaking the silence or shattering an illusion. They want to conform. They want to give up their own personal song and conform to the authorized choir and that's the death of not only individuals, it's the death ultimately of humanity when you're all singing in the same choir, because that means someone's conducting you and someone wrote the song but not you.

What a dull dreary world that would be when there's no possible way to see variation. When there's no point visiting someone because you know what they're going to say. Why go there when you know what they're going to say. People do things through habit nowadays. They even visit each other through habit. Everything becomes habit as they put time in. Just putting in time.

You have a life to live and yet they're putting time in, where their own creativity could be used to the full they switch on televisions and read novels and find ways to pass the time. Ways where experts will write the program for them. You don't participate watching a movie or watching anything for that matter. You're being downloaded by someone who sat down to write something and now it's being downloaded into you, not so much you're interested in it but because you want to pass the time. To pass away the essence that is living.

When children were cooped up at one time before they had computer games and sat and fiddled with their thumbs and fingers with a little plastic thing, they used to go outdoors and burn off their energy. Mind you, they were a bit fitter. They didn't have all the modified food, not as badly anyway that we know of, and they didn't have as many inoculations so they had energy to burn, but they were never bored, never bored.

It’s scary today to talk to a lot of youngsters, the ones who do sit with their games and twiddle their fingers with a plastic thing and their eyes fixed on something on the screen and if they don't have that game or they’ve done it so many times they'll sit there and they'll sigh. If you ask them "what's wrong?" they’ll say "I'm bored."  Here they have a life to live. When you’re young you think you'll live forever. Death is a foreign concept. It's more so today, now that you don't see anyone who's dead. Everything is sanitized and taken care of somewhere else. However, they have one life to live and they're bored already. Bored.

To go somewhere and see things or look or think for themselves is almost a foreign idea to them. They've grown up to believe that you pay for entertainment. You pay money. If you don't pay then it cannot be valuable, so they always want money to go and visit things and see things. It would never occur to them to simply get out in the country and hike through a forest on their own. They're bored. Boredom.

Their song, if it ever was theirs, now quenched already because the song in a person is your fire. It's the driving force within yourself. It gives you the inquisitiveness. It gives you the yearning to be excited and go and look and see and do. And eventually they'll be world weary, where the cares of this world will be so overwhelming as they go through the years they'll want to switch off themselves because it's all so terrifying to them.

Most of all the fear mongering in all ages is fabricated nonsense. Not all of it but most of it and we cannot allow that to get us down until our fire is quenched. The fact today that there are people who are still awake, can verbalize what's happening, cut through all the illusions, cut through all the propaganda and the counter-intelligence that's put out there to make you drift up into space, chase lizards all over the place, follow gurus who wear funny clothes but look as if they know something, look terribly pious and those ones who I call "the card sharks," who give you futures from a piece of paper or a bunch of paper.

People want predictions only when they're terrified of making their own life because living is a chance. Everything in life is a chance and only those who die internally do so because they won't take chances, until eventually they'll be much older and they'll say "it's too late for me to offer anything."  Why would you choose to live in a life of misery when the fate of the future lies within you, if you care to start utilizing it, if you utilize that drive within you in any way you can.

It doesn’t mean you become famous. It doesn't mean you become rich. You won't become rich if you're doing it the right way, unless you get the backing of governments, but you'll be rich in wisdom and rich in experience, rich in friends. You'll be richer by far than those that chase things of the world, the material stuff, because ultimately all we have really here is each other; and by that, I don't mean the faces we put on, the authorized faces, the pretenses. I'm talking about the real people within. That's what life really is about. The acting, the persona people project is the authorized version that someone somewhere at sometime decided we were all supposed to copy.

I've said many times this is the place, the war zone, where everything meets in the world of matter, the plane of matter. We can't allow ourselves to be psychologically put under by deceptions or worry or stress and fear when you realize we're all going to die.  Hopefully, not all at the same time, but judging from what we've seen with the past, everyone eventually dies. When you realize how precious life itself is and that there's supposed to be a joy in living – a joy – then you have to claim that back again and tell those who are trying to destroy it to get off your back and that as a sovereign being that came into this world like everyone else, by the same methods, we have a right to participate in the decision making that affects us.

We don't need other people to tell us how we should be, how we should live, what we should do, in some authoritarian manner as though they came out of some special birth canal. The pretense has gone on long enough and the elite know this. They know this cannot go on for much longer. That's why the hype to get us dumbed down by every means possible including chemical warfare and the doping from the skies and all the other things they're doing with the food. There's no doubt on that. Food is a weapon. You would alter the food to alter the people and to make the masses more manageable and placid – things which were discussed a long time ago at world meetings.

And yet here we are, there are still people who can think, who can get through the haze and the maze of disinformation and hype and fear mongering and cut to the core. Why?  Because life is not just mine, it's yours too. Life is for those to come as well and life is supposed to be lived, not fretted through and worried through or cried through. It's supposed to be lived, even though you'll do all of those things at some time but not all the time.  Rather than go through life worrying and fuming and fretting of what they will do next, the big THEY, do something with it.

More sites are going up shortly. It's going to take a lot of work to do so, so people who try and phone probably won't get through and I spend so much time on the phone I can't really afford it anymore, now that we’re getting to crucial stages of this global battle, so we'll all have to be patient as I try and get these sites up and get things working and expanding.

To finish up, I'd just like to repeat.  Don't simply put your time in like a prison sentence. Stop passing time and start doing something with your fire, with your own song. Sorry for the rushed blurb but it's been a hectic day.

I hope you're all doing well. From me and Hamish, it's good night and may your gods or god or favorite poem go with you.

Quote from Hamish on March 11, 2021, 6:09 pm

Der Heideknabe

Friedrich Hebbel

Der Knabe träumt, man schicke ihn fort
Mit dreißig Talern zum Heideort,
Er ward drum erschlagen am Wege
Und war doch nicht langsam und träge.

Noch liegt er im Angstschweiß, da rüttelt ihn
Sein Meister, und heißt ihm, sich anzuziehn
Und legt ihm das Geld auf die Decke
Und fragt ihn, warum er erschrecke.

"Ach Meister, mein Meister, sie schlagen mich tot,
Die Sonne, sie ist ja wie Blut so rot!"
Sie ist es für dich nicht alleine,
Drum schnell, sonst mach' ich dir Beine!

"Ach Meister, mein Meister, so sprachst du schon,
Das war das Gesicht, der Blick, der Ton,
Gleich greifst du" - zum Stock, will er sagen,
Er sagt's nicht, er wird schon geschlagen.

"Ach Meister, mein Meister, ich geh, ich geh,
Bring meiner Frau Mutter das letzte Ade!
Und sucht sie nach allen vier Winden,
Am Weidenbaum bin ich zu finden!"

Hinaus aus der Stadt! Und da dehnt sie sich,
Die Heide, nebelnd, gespenstiglich,
Die Winde darüber sausend,
"Ach, wär hier ein Schritt, wie tausend!"

Und alles so still, und alles so stumm,
Man sieht sich umsonst nach Lebendigem um,
Nur hungrige Vögel schießen
Aus Wolken, um Würmer zu spießen.

Er kommt ans einsame Hirtenhaus,
Der alte Hirt schaut eben heraus,
Des Knaben Angst ist gestiegen,
Am Wege bleibt er noch liegen.

"Ach Hirte, du bist ja von frommer Art,
Vier gute Groschen hab ich erspart,
Gib deinen Knecht mir zur Seite,
Dass er bis zum Dorf mich begleite!

Ich will sie ihm geben, er trinke dafür
Am nächsten Sonntag ein gutes Bier,
Dies Geld hier, ich trag es mit Beben,
Man nahm mir im Traum drum das Leben!"

Der Hirt, der winkte dem langen Knecht,
Er schnitt sich eben den Stecken zurecht,
Jetzt trat er hervor - wie graute
Dem Knaben, als er ihn schaute!

"Ach Meister Hirte, ach nein, ach nein,
Es ist doch besser, ich geh' allein!"
Der Lange spricht grinsend zum Alten:
Er will die vier Groschen behalten.

"Da sind die vier Groschen!" Er wirft sie hin
Und eilt hinweg mit verstörtem Sinn.
Schon kann er die Weide erblicken,
Da klopft ihn der Knecht in den Rücken.

"Du hältst es nicht aus, du gehst zu geschwind,
Ei, Eile mit Weile, du bist ja noch Kind,
Auch muss das Geld dich beschweren,
Wer kann dir das Ausruhn verwehren!

Komm, setz dich unter den Weidenbaum
Und dort erzähl mir den hässlichen Traum,
Mir träumte - Gott soll mich verdammen,
Trifft's nicht mit deinem zusammen!"

Er fasst den Knaben wohl bei der Hand,
Der leistet auch nimmermehr Widerstand,
Die Blätter flüstern so schaurig,
Das Wässerlein rieselt so traurig!

"Nun sprich, du träumtest - "Es kam ein Mann -"
"War ich das? Sieh mich doch näher an,
Ich denke, du hast mich gesehen!
Nun weiter, wie ist es geschehen?"

"Er zog ein Messer!" - "War das, wie dies?" -
"Ach ja, ach ja!" - "Er zog's?" - "Und stieß -"
"Er stieß dir's wohl so durch die Kehle?
Was hilft es auch, dass ich dich quäle!"

Und fragt ihr, wies weiter gekommen sei?
So fragt zwei Vögel, sie saßen dabei,
Der Rabe verweilte gar heiter,
Die Taube konnte nicht weiter!

Der Rabe erzählt, was der Böse noch tat,
Und auch, wies der Henker gerochen hat,
Die Taube erzählt, wie der Knabe
Geweint und gebetet habe.

Quote from Hamish on March 11, 2021, 6:12 pm

ALAN WATT    BLURB

"INTERNET POLICE, PROVIDERS AND PROVOCATEURS

(THE COST OF FREE SPEECH)"

WITH HENRIK PALMGREN

OF RED ICE CREATIONS RADIO

March 1, 2007

Alan:  Hi, folks.  I'm Alan Watt.  This is cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  It is March 1, 2007.  Tonight, I have a guest from Sweden. I've been on his show before.  It's Henrik from Red Ice Radio. He's here to tell us all about the recent problems he had with his server.  He was pulled off the net with very puerile explanations given which won't satisfy anyone.  It's rather silly, so he's here to tell us all about it.

"Bay Boys"

By Inner Circle

Bad boys
Whatcha want, watcha want
Whatcha gonna do
When sheriff John Brown come for you
Tell me
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna dooo
Yeaheah

Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you

Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you

When you were eight
And you had bad traits
You go to school
And learn the golden rule
So why are you
Acting like a bloody fool
If you get hot
You must get cool

Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you

Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you

You chuck it on that one
You chuck it on this one
You chuck it on your mother and
You chuck it on your father
You chuck it on your brother and
You chuck it on your sister
You chuck it on that one and
You chuck it on me

Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you

Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you

Alan:  Welcome, and fill me in on what's been happening to you.

Henrik:  Sure Alan. Thank you very much for having me on.  Now of course the site is back up at the moment now so I guess the initial word would be that this is no big issue of course. It just takes a lot of time as we went through or as were beginning our last show together when you were on my radio show of course after your site went down.  It just takes a lot of time to keep a radio show going, update the site and so forth. It just steals too much time, but anyway this is quite an interesting thing to just go through.  When the site was taken down yesterday around noon our time, I just got an automated email saying that my site was pulled or suspended as they called it.  But anyway and I couldn't find a support phone number on their website.  This was kind of a big mistake from my part when I signed up with them not to check that they could actually be reached through phone line, but any how, not very helpful at all.  I had to milk them for answers. They didn't say why or how or by whom the site had been taken down. They just pull it and sent me this automated email.  So anyway–

Alan:  What happened when you tried? Did you try and get someone who's actually alive there to tell you what was wrong?

Henrik:  Sure. I mean they had kind of a live chat function. I contacted someone there, but they said that they hadn't access to the email logs because this was related to a spam issue. So they couldn't help me out there so I started up a thread with the support team on their website, kind of a forum thread almost with an email conversation and they said basically that spam had been sent out with advertising for Red Ice Creations.com.

Obviously at that time, I mean nothing to do with me. It wasn't related to any of my email address or something like that. So they just said basically that you know in 99 percent of the cases those who sent out as they call it "spam-vertisement" are related to the sites. So they just decided to pull it. I don't know to this day if by whom they were threatened so to speak to pull the site. Somebody would have to tell them about this kind of reporting my site as a spam-vertisement, but anyway this email address was an AOL.com email account so I just asked them plainly "why didn't you forward this to AOL abuse department," something like that, but nothing. If nothing else this just kind of shows you how weak minded I guess they are. No backbone. Not standing up for their customers at all. They just decided to pull the plug as soon as they found some later complaints.

Alan:  Yes. Did they send you a copy of the spam or show you?

Henrik:  No, not at first, nothing. I had to you know kind of milk them for this. I said what's going on and what's happened? Who did this? What did it look like? But after that, they sent me one small example of this and I don't know the person involved with this AOL.com email address. I received a few email from the person but I haven't replied to them and so forth. I mean this is again something that is totally out of my control. People can – you know I don't mind how people communicate or if they send off spam or whatever. In one sense, I'm glad for people sending out my links and so forth. That's fine for me. I don't care. But you know deciding to pull the plug on me was very strange and very childish in a way.

Alan:  What's weird about that is – and I'm sure there is warning given to people in this kind of situation – and that's two of us now. Now I had it first and I had no warning at all that they were going to pull it or for any reason or whatever. No inquiries that anything was wrong. Not that there was anything was wrong. It was just pulled and there you are, no warning again, you were a customer. They didn't get in touch with you to clarify spam or anything first. I think it's an excuse.

Henrik:  Yes indeed. I mean it sounded like it because the reasons were so weak basically because I post several questions to them that they yet haven't replied to. I simply stated – they expressed – the website hosting company I have is One.com and they expressed fear of being something they called "blacklisted" and I asked them what that means and by whom they would be blacklisted, so I have not received a reply to that so that's something I'm going to continue posing that question to them. Another thing I also asked them was of course was if I were to send out what they call it "spam-vertisement" about their own company One.com, would they have to be forced to take down their own service then? I mean no reply to that of course.

Alan:  They're giving you the run around.

Henrik:  Yes, exactly.

Alan:  Someone obviously leaned on them and put a word in and they're just giving you the initial harassment.

Henrik:  Exactly and I think that is kind of the bottom line at this point. I mean, I don't think there's any – there might be of course depending on who actually threatened them, as you said, but the rundown here I guess is that this is pretty weak stuff, very small. Nothing big. No big conspiracy in that sense. It just kind of shows you how little effort it actually takes for someone to just report my site for whatever reason and they just decide to take it down immediately. No questions asked, nothing.

Alan:  That's what gets me.  You see, if it was normal, if this was a sort of fairly common complaint they would get in touch with you first or anyone else to quiz you on it if you knew anything about it. They wouldn't pull you. They'd only pull you out of panic because someone pretty high up there had put in the word to give you a hard time.

Henrik:  Yes, that might be done and the interesting thing of course is, Alan, that your site was pulled before that and then mine and so forth, so there's a ditto connection here that someone is actually trying to send some kind of message I guess. I don't know.

Alan:  I know there's games going on and I do know there's agencies within the U.S. that use AOL to send Trojans around because I've had some people in the U.S. downloading stuff from my site and even though the Yahoo scans it every so often for everything, there's nothing on it to catch; but they've caught AOLs being transmitted along with the download, so it's inserted somewhere along the line to them and it was AOL that was registered there causing the problem.

Henrik:  Because they did say that they thought that the AOL address that they showed me, this email address, and I actually myself took contact with this person to write them and say you know please don't include my web page address again if you decide to send off spam or whatever. So I mean I'm not mad at that person for anything. They can do whatever they want. It's none of my business. That's the problem here. I mean none of this has anything to do with me. I'm just caught in between so to speak.

Alan:  It's an excuse to just give you a warning and what happened when you eventually got hooked back up again – did you get through to someone or how did you manage to get it up?

Henrik:  They said that to get your website up and running again you must guarantee that you won't do this again.

Alan:  Oh, no.

Henrik:  So I said I can't do that. I can't guarantee something that I haven't been involved with so sorry, but what I did was I simply contacted this person who was behind the AOL.com email address and said could you send them an email that will help me out and say that you guarantee that you won't send off mail again; and I don't know if the person has done it. I haven't gotten a reply from that person yet.

But anyway, what I did was say that I had nothing to do with the email and I can't be responsible for it; and just after a while again they decided to put my website up as soon as I said that I wasn't affiliated with the email address.

Alan:  It's almost like trying to wring a confession out of you, knowing you're not guilty, so they can use it on you again. I think like I say it's a warning because you've been reaching certain topics which you're supposed to stay from maybe.

Henrik:  Sure. I mean exactly. We've done a whole lot of interesting shows together and we actually did a show with Freeman which actually involves – Freeman mentioned something called the AOL Time-Warner company in regards to the Mickey Mouse Club with the issue on mind control and Brittney Spears and also on the recent death on Anna Nicole Smith and as soon as we actually put that show up, a few hours after that, the site was actually pulled so I don't if that has anything to do with.

Alan:  I don't think it was that. I tell you because are on regular media and there's been so much exposure on Anna Nicole Smith. They want the public to dissect all that information so I don't think that's the problem. It's the same with the Vatican. You can say what you want about the Vatican and they have been for a long, long time. In fact, that's to keep everyone occupied pointing fingers, but I don't think that's even the cause of it. Very often the cause is a topic you've almost glossed over. It could be a comment and I was racking my brains to think what would have got authorities in Sweden upset?  The only thing I can think of is just a little – I think I said a sentence to do with the brain chips and how they experimented with prisoners in Sweden years ago, and I thought that's about the only time I'd mentioned Sweden that would cause that kind of problem.

Henrik:  Yes, that might be.

Alan:  To forget all this kind of stuff and it's the same thing when I talked about the drugs and the CIA and the contra, even though it was blasted out at the time across the world. It's all been brushed under the carpet again and they've suddenly become respectable once more. They don't like this stuff being dragged out to make the public think well maybe it's still going on.

Henrik:  Sure. I mean there are few comparisons. I mean this is nothing in comparison of course but it does remind me of a site called the Pirate Bay here in Sweden being – this is a bit torrent site but I think it was taken down also a while back and this was after the "Big Boys". You know allegedly they had some pressure from the American Whitehouse and the police here in Sweden removed the servers and the same with The National Democrat website being taken down after they published a few more of those. If you remember that the Mohammed cartoons was in the news.  What was it? Six, seven months ago, but anyway they published a few more of those, but again, against the law they just pulled down that website because they thought that would create more threats and so forth. So that's how they do. I think again this is evidence of kind of special treatment. They just do this in certain areas and then it seems to be okay in certain locations.

Alan:   Yes and also I think what it is, is they hope you get the message. See, most companies would say well we've got a little warning here, we better be careful. That's the message you see, and that's how things are done in the real world. They lean on people until you get the message. Nothing you could ever prove in a court you see. You could never take it into court, even though you had 90% of the evidence pointing in one direction and in law it's the preponderance of evidence that brings a jury to the conclusion, but of course, you'll never get the big boys to admit that they did it.

Henrik:  Exactly, Yes, sure.  And I mean one thing that I kind of reacted to again was what they actually consider to be spam. I mean that's also a very subjective thing regarding if you send it out to a lot of people or if the receiver of the mail hasn't approved that they are to receive the mail. I don't know. Do you know what is considered to be spam?

Alan:  Spam, well let's be honest. I get the same spam everyday. It's the same one over and over and over and well the big boys know who's putting it out. They can track them very easily because the entire Internet was given – Brzezinski talked about it before they gave us the Internet, that it would be perfectly safe for governments because they would be monitoring everyone's move. They know where everything comes from and they haven't stopped all the traditional spammers putting out their stuff, so why do they make a big deal about someone – actually, it’s a red herring they've given us.  It's a red herring. They know where things come from. They can track anything.

Henrik:  Sure. As they said in the communication with the server hosting company, they said they got the email logs right there so they can go in and check everything. They said that this wasn't just one example so I guess that if I pressured them more or asked them more they could give me more examples of the kind of communications that involves my website or my email or whatever, so they've got it.

Alan:  Yes, but they think it originated in the U.S., so I think that's the key to it. You see, the whole Internet system was used during the Cold War before the public knew it existed.  They had it all set up. Personally, I think that's why no one pressed the buttons on the bombs, they were making sure that no one did, they were in cahoots with each other, Russia and the U.S., but they had all that system set up then. What we're given today is literally obsolete technology, and as I said, Brzezinski said that. He said that they'd be in charge of everything to do with the Internet because it was the greatest way to monitor the whole world. So, no, that's an excuse to pull you I think because you're becoming politically incorrect somewhere.

Henrik:  Yes, I hope so. It's an encouragement that I'm on the right track I guess.

Alan:  You are and if you – you see, I've watched this over the years. I know how things operate with intelligence services. I know how they operate with counterintelligence services and how the counterintelligence takes all the stuff you're talking about, wraps it up with nonsense and discredits the intelligence so you throw the baby out with the bath water. This goes on all the time. It always has gone on, even before the computer. If you're out there pushing all sorts of weird ideas or just telling people to practice yoga or have out of body experiences all the time, you'd have plane sailing you see. They don't mind it because all these things are harmless to a power system. You can speculate and imagine forever. They don't mind that at all, but when you get into topics which are not only current, but to deal with where we're going, and a lot of it isn't pleasant really and you have documentation to back it up, then you're treading on their territory, on the power territory, and they don't – there's so many ways to get messages across to people.  And the public wouldn't believe if you even told them some of the things that happen.

I mean the previous house I had a chopper, a helicopter, put something down the chimney.

Henrik:  Oh, really.

Alan:  Yes and I was doing the shortwave radio broadcasts at the time. It was late at night, in the winter. I had the woodstove going and then I was drowned out. I was on the phone on the Sweet Liberty just after it. I got drowned out. The helicopter was so low I couldn't hear myself. The next thing the stove doors blew a sheet of flame across the room and I said oh my god, I said the chimney's gone up as well. I got a hose uncoiled, which I'd kept inside so that there's no water to freeze, ran right up onto the roof and I could have touched the skid of the helicopter as it started moving off. That's how close it was. The stuff that they had put down there, it took me about half an hour to put out. I cleaned out the bottom where all the ash fell down. There was a white powder. When it dried out outside after I emptied it out, it burst into flames again, so there was a phosphorous mix in there. It was a phosphorous grenade.

I thought at the time, what on earth have I said to bring this on?  Then I thought to myself, who do I complain to? Who would believe you? I had a witness there at the time. That was the only thing that kept my sanity.

Henrik:  Yes, because I totally – I've heard this before I think from alleged MK-ULTRA victim Cathy O'Brien who stated that she was – you know people broke into her home and they did weird stuff like moving around small things in the apartment, changing the way that you open the door so you have to turn it the other way. Stuff kind of that you know in your head by almost like a – anyway, kind of this tricky stuff. I don't know if this is anything that you've been going through but just to kind of play with your head I suppose and then we've got the more straight approach as you say the more obvious stuff. I mean having a helicopter over your house. That's pretty big stuff.

Alan:  Literally, it was nighttime and I thought, well I could have died, and then I thought, as I say – if you went to the police station they're going to look at you and lock you up as being crazy, because it's unthinkable to the average person that would go to all that trouble to be put out just to silence little old you, until you realize that little old you can say certain things which really are kind of dangerous to the present power structure and bring up histories of things they'd rather the public forget.

Henrik:  At this point, I don't feel threatened at all basically. I mean this is quite fun and it's going to be interesting to see if I can squeeze out some more answers from the website serving the hosting company and see if they actually bother to answer some of my questions and basically see what their approach is if they kind of want to continue to – because basically they’ll continue forever just as long as someone – that should be a hint to everybody, if you want to get a website down, just send a lot of spam-vertisement and that'll get you pulled, I promise you.

Alan:  Yes and that could be some – I'm sure whatever they're using as excuses have been talked about at the top as well as to what excuses they could use to pull sites and probably talked about this years ago. They always have plans so they can implement them when need be, if someone becomes a problem, so it could be that. However, it just shows you as I say that free speech isn't free.

Henrik:  It costs.

Alan:  It's not free at all. There's a price to pay for things and you get warned pretty clearly, pretty clearly.

Henrik:  You know, another thing of course as I said I'm going to follow-up on this and see if I can squeeze out what the term "blacklisted" means and so forth and all of that. Another thing is of course there should be or one idea that popped up in my head when this happened was that there should be some kind of status – kind of imagine an external website that actually monitors all the website that you are monitoring so you can get a ping – you can ping the website or something like that so you can see the status if it's online and offline and if it's offline you can actually go in and write a short blurb that your site has been taken down and whatever and this can actually be a little small box that people can put on their website so they can monitor all the websites that deal with similar topics or things like that. I don't know. Just an idea.

Alan:  Well as I say, it could be done, but I'm sure this is just a little warning to you.  With me, they did it at the weekend as well, so there was no one – well, they passed me around from different people for the whole weekend, none of whom knew anything.

Henrik:  Are you going to change the company that hosts your website?

Alan:  I've got more sites going up in different countries and one of them I'm probably make another main site and that way if Yahoo pulls it again I'll still have a main site working for the others to mirror as well. This is what you have to do in today's world.

Henrik:  Yes, it seems like it. I mean it's so easy for them to just pooh-pooh all of it right away. I mean for God's sake they're planning, as you and I spoke earlier, Internet2 and all of this stuff, so I mean at that point they could just decide basically who would get the permission to start a website from the start. I guess that we are in a time right now where this is kind of a luxury.

Alan:  Yes. I noticed even Canada, I think it was three to four years ago, they had an international meeting for the United Nations and different organizations were invited to do with policing the Internet and part of it was content, various types of content which was politically incorrect and what they could do about it, and the United Nations was demanding the right to do all the policing on the Internet. What they did, they set up regions of the world where main non-governmental organizations would be based and they would have the keys to go into everyone's site and be able to monitor your computer's signature as you surf the net. These are the guys that give you the firewall hits and so on. Everyday I get them – there's one in Holland that bashes me all the time. There's another one that deals with the Far East and it's based I think in Queensland, Australia. They bash you everyday but they are technically non-governmental organizations which can get through most firewalls and they are the police for the United Nations.

Henrik:  Okay, exactly because that was my point. It's obvious they can be hired by governments or countries or whatever.

Alan:  Yes. And also they monitor, goodness knows how many, so many bureaucracies working on all this now on speech content and they're monitoring all the different phrases and little topics and taking notes, and I'm sure they're actually adding to it all the time and then sending them to their main providers and complaining. This is all part of the new policing of the worldwide net.

Henrik:  Do you think that the clampdown on this will be – I guess as usual they will start with something that everyone in that sense can gather around trying to get caught with pedophiles and stuff like this and try to corner that – the people that are involved with that kind of stuff to begin the clampdown I guess.

Alan:  Yes. It could be something rather innocent and they bend it out of shape and they just pull you and they could do it as many times as they wanted to until you just gave up and you can just go away. See, they do know in this world that the publics' memory is very short and it doesn't matter who you are, you are quickly forgotten. I've seen some of the biggies, not just in this line but in the different lines, who just disappear and then are quickly forgotten by the public. That happened to Bill Cooper.

Henrik:  Yes, William Cooper, sure.

Alan:  And Bill Cooper had asked me down there. He didn't generally take visitors but he called me. If I had gone down, I'd have been down there when he got killed.

Henrik:  Oh, really.

Alan:  So it's just as well I didn't go.

Henrik:  Yes, sure. He was shot by police in his home, right?

Alan:  He was set up. He was literally set up and he knew it was coming. He used to chase people off his hillside home because it was private property and it was the local sheriff's and some BATF officers dressed up like hobos or youngsters pretending to be drunk, and he went out in his truck and when he recognized their faces he knew he was getting set up. He did an about face and he was running out of his truck. Now this man they said he was running and shooting at the same time. The guy had an artificial leg.

Henrik:  Oh, really.

Alan:  Yes and it just so happened that I think it was two SWAT teams – one came round the other side of his house and just riddled him with bullets.

Henrik:  Have you heard about Jim Keith allegedly also wrote a few books on conspiracies and so forth and he went in for I think it was an operation relating to something in his knee and he actually died during the operation.

Alan:  I wouldn't be surprised. I know another man who spoke out about the NAFTA deal, the Unification of the Americas, and after giving a talk in a hall, he came out of the hall, a car drew up and this man said that I'm really impressed with your work. He said I know you don't have much money because you've given up everything to do what you're doing. He said I am a dentist. If you need free work, I'll do it for you. So he took him up on it and after having the injections in his gums and so on, in the months later he came down with massive rheumatoid arthritis all over his body.

Henrik:  Oh, my God. It's so easy. I posted an article actually a few days ago before the site went down, someone called – I never heard of this guy before but I found it after a movie I was watching through video villa. His name was Dr. Eugene Malove or Mallove and this guy was allegedly kind of a torch bearer for cold fusion and he claimed that they had some kind of deal in I think it was in the late '80's when a team said that they had managed to do cold fusion experiments and then this was later refuted by large universities and other researchers and scientists, but this guy actually was one of the proponents who said that it actually did work and all the universities and other scientists just kind of mish-mashed the evidence for this because everybody knows how free energy that no one wants that around, correct?

Alan:  Well you see, that’s it because in this world and in the UN Charter and on all the politicians' lips, you'll hear the term "interdependence" and they say we've all got to be interdependent. It's not just by nations, it's individually as well. They want everyone to rely completely 100% on the system they provide, for your food, your water, energy and so on, so they could never give anything to the people that would create the opposite effect where you could be independent. That's contrary to the world plan. What they do is they have "market suppression" they call it, where inventions come along all the time and they snaffle them and bury them. I know that back in the '70's the big magazine for the automobiles in Britain was called I think the "RAC," the Royal Academy of something or another, or the Royal Auto, and they tested a car, which was running, they did take and separate the oxygen and hydrogen from water, and they had it for two months and they tested it for two months and drove it. They put out glowing reports they could literally fill this thing up anywhere at all there was a pool of water and it had built in filters, even if you wanted to put it into an old pond, and they said that the thing worked beautifully. There was no gimmicks in it and that whole invention was completely suppressed.

Henrik:   Yes, I can imagine. That classic movie "Who Killed the Electric Car?" I think that's up on Video Google, too, but again I mean we don't have to go in the areas as I say of electric cars and that kind of stuff because there are of course things running on allegedly cold fusion and water and all of that, so there we go.

Alan:  Universities, too, when they go in and repeat these studies, as I say, people forget that there's no university that's completely independent to do its own study because the professors and the departments all get massive grants from the big foundations. They live on grants in fact, free grants, and so they take their orders from the foundation and the big foundations are the Carnegie and Ford and Rockefeller foundations and others. These are the money boys who run this whole world system. So when they tell them, yes, you'll do the experiments and you will find it's all negative, then those professors will go ahead and that's what they'll come up with. It's negative, it doesn't work. They're working for paymasters. There's no big devious complicated design there. It's quite simple. It's quite simple now to suppress various inventions.

Henrik:  Sure. If you don't go along with your peers, you'll be immediately frozen or your grants or tenure or whatever will be removed or taken away from you.

Alan:  Yes. You know there's a professor in Canada called O'Driscoll who came out with three books in the '90's that resulted from the fact that he was suspended from teaching at the University of Toronto. It was the weirdest thing because it's very similar to this strange gray area between the black and the white world of law and not quite law, how he was suspended. They said he still had to keep his contract up but he wasn’t allowed to come on the grounds to teach the students, so he thought the only way would be to get a hot air balloon and go over the campus grounds with a megaphone and to teach the students. What got him on the track and he said this, and he wasn't right with everything certainly, but he said, "I lived in an ivory tower." He mixed with all the academic fraternities. He lived in a separate world than most of the public and he fell from the ivory tower with a crash because the authorities came after him after he put on a stage play, a short play about NATO and it was about NATO and the Warsaw pact. What he realized was that the whole Cold War was a fraud because the United Nations acted as a referee that had written up charters both for NATO and for the Soviet version which was the Warsaw pact and neither could do anything to the other without going through the United Nations. Then he concluded that the United Nations was literally the boss of the two, all that time, and he put it out on stage and that's when the flack started and he got all the comeback from the university and all strange kind of accusations came his way until he was suspended. However, out of that came three books, some of which was quite true, others were some – he was being mislead.

Henrik:  I mean just look at the nuclear technology and the exchange of that so all countries involved in the Cold War actually had the ability to build a nuke or already had a nuke. I don't know if you heard about something called Major Jordan's diaries?

Alan:  Yes.

Henrik:  I mean that's a perfect example how to trade the technology between the Russians and the U.S. so both sides can have the bombs so to speak.

Alan:  Yes. See, there was no real Cold War except that the public of both sides had to believe there was. It was the Cold War that enabled the governments to tax the people incredibly in order to use it for research and development, supposedly to protect them, through sciences and if they kept things science we'd win this war. Whoever had the best science will win the war, and so billions and trillions of dollars went into research and development but had nothing to do with trading more and more bombs. That was for the public consumption. It was for all the technology that would ultimately be used on a global society for keeping everyone in order. That's what its real function was and I used to say well how come the top scientists in Britain and America could go over to the Soviet meeting of scientists every year? Those would be the last people you would allow to mix with Soviets would be your top scientists, and this was a yearly event. And here they are telling you that those who have the best sciences would win the war. It told me right there and then that this was all bogus.

Henrik:  Again this might be a fraud in that sense too, but now they have the funding of al-Qaeda and so forth. I mean it's the same stuff all over again.

Alan:  Yes, it's the same thing. This world is a chessboard that's set up way ahead in advance and I am sure that when Rumsfeld went over there to Saddam in the '70's and gave him all the stockpiles of gases et cetera and that was well documented in newspapers at the time, I'm sure they knew exactly how long they would use Saddam and they probably even knew then when they were going to go after him right down to the year. The chessboard is setup step-by-step in advance. Everyone is used in turn to get to a final goal.

Henrik:  How about Iran?  What's your take on that? I mean it feels like obviously we're being very close for a long time now, but when the last piece I read about Iran is that they allegedly can't – they can't stop their nuclear programs so it's just like a train that keeps on going and now of course we have the possibility of intervention from the U.S. and the UK I guess.  I mean do you think that they are going to go in there?

Alan:  They have to go in because it's part of the plan. They wrote about the Middle East in the Project for a New American Century, that was the club that Cheney and all these boys belonged to going back into the early '90's, they published they’d have to take over the entire Middle East including Iran and Syria and that was their project and that's what they said. They would be the new American empire because every era has always had a leading empire running the world and they took over from Britain and now they would be the American empire and they would have to take over the resources of the entire Middle East. This is all part of the standardization of the entire world. They can't have different religions, it won't be allowed, different ways of living, dressing and right down to language in a sense; they want a standardized world. It's just too untidy the way it is.

Henrik:  Yes, we need order, right? I saw a documentary about Chinese goods being shipped out and I was very surprised that every Chinese in the work they had this huge harbor were actually speaking English. So I mean do you think that is the world language, English?

Alan:  Well going back to John Dee and this is published in his own books. He approached Queen Elizabeth I in the 1500's and he coined the term "the British Empire" and he explained what it would be and they would use the British Navy to take over the world in a sense and they would create a system called "free trade. This was written about in the 1500's and he said those countries who would join them would adopt the British system of democracy, which would be called democracy, and tariffs and so on will be penalized against those who wouldn't join them; but he also said that they didn't have to stay in Britain because the whole idea was a philosophy, so they could move it elsewhere if need be. We know they moved it to the United States to take over from Britain, but that's how long – and he said that the English language would be the international language of business for the future. That's what he said.

Henrik:  So I guess this is why we have 007 running around doing the bidding for the queen, running around as they call it fighting the international terrorists rich guys and–

Alan:  And it’s so funny because John Dee was also a spy for Queen Elizabeth I. He went across to Europe and came back with all the information and he signed his letters 007.

Henrik:  Sure, exactly.

Alan:  When you look at history, it's almost a comic book.

Henrik:  It is, yes.

Alan:  You realize that the strategies and the plans and how simple really they are and it’s our refusal to believe what they say that gets us all confused. We don't want to believe them when they say they want to drastically reduce the population of the world. We hear them saying it and they will tell us in all these different wildlife programs and all this kind of stuff, but we don't want to believe them and yet they've published so many books. They're all round universities and we don't want to believe that people exist who not only mean it, but have the means to put it into action.

Henrik:  Sure. I mean there was a UT professor. I think his last name was Bianca, professor Bianca, who allegedly demanded that, what was it, 60% or even more, 80% of the people on the earth must go in order for the earth to sustain itself; and I mean this is in my book obviously ridiculous stuff. I mean there's been research on how much land and so forth people need to have to actually sustain and live, and the earth is abundant place at least how I see it and the thing that I would see changing of course is the big industrialized companies and so forth in regards to global warming. Why don't they stop the space program? They spew out tremendous amounts of carbon dioxide and other poisons when they shoot those rockets up there, but there's no mentioning of that. It's always the little guy and people with their cars. We should pay more and it's ridiculous in my book at least.

Alan:  Well when I was small, I asked a lot of questions. I asked a lot of questions everywhere I went and I'd see the occasional person but there were very few cars in my little town, which was a mining town, but I'd ask the guys who were working on them how they worked and of course as I grew up I realized that nothing changed really. It was the same gasoline. It was the same technology. It just didn't change. Everything else was changing. Electronics was leaping ahead from the old tubes to transistors then solid-state. Everything has been altered but the same car getting churned out really with a different body or a shell every year, and I came to the conclusion that we were not intended to be allowed to drive forever or they would have given us a completely different fuel or whatever. It would have been done. It really would have been done. Sure enough, when I read the various books put out by some of the big boys themselves and then read Agenda 21, for the 21st century, for the United Nations, they say it right in there that people will be living in habitats. All governments will be mandating laws to eventually push people bit by bit into habitat areas. There will be no private transportation. They state that clearly. It will be public transportation only and so it was right enough as a young boy I knew we were not meant to drive forever. They only gave us that to get through the industrial age and we're post-industrial, post-technological and they don't want us traveling anymore. We don't need to travel. In fact, we’re even post-agricultural. Latin America has been built up with the Free Trade negotiations and NAFTA to be the supplier of most of the farm produce.

Henrik:  Yes, sure. I totally agree. I can see this happening now because the first step of course is to get everybody into the big cities because this is where the jobs are so I mean they leave the countryside to where – no humans in the countryside. Just in these big cities and then to be able to fight gridlocks and as they call it congestion and stuff like this they're going to tax people. We have this proposition in Sweden now in regards to congestion as they call it, where they're going to tax and trace all cars that are going through the big cities, so I mean it's right there.

Alan:  It's penalization and they'll penalize us with so many different ways that eventually we can't afford it you see.  They don't like to ban things straight outright. They just make it impossible for you to continue, step by step. As I say, the world has been planned out. It's a business plan. It's a huge business plan and Joe Public is completely ignorant of it because the television version and these dramas and these comedies are meant to keep you just floating through life without getting involved in any of it.

Henrik:  I can see it happening right now. I mean so you read much of the books out there in regards to this. Do you think that one of this tribal people, one language, one culture basically, that's the main plan I guess?

Alan:  That's a stepping-stone. I call this the never-ending story because when you read the material that comes out from the top geneticists, the futurist societies and different big organizations, they're giving you the future. They sit and debate it. They talked a long time ago about eugenics, how those with what they called "inferior genes" shouldn't be allowed to pass them on and breed, and how mandatory sterilization will come into force. One of the techniques that was discussed was the creation of a new religion to do with earth-based worship and how they could teach children in the school that the earth was everything, the mother was everything and therefore to save the mother a certain amount of them should volunteer for sterilization and how they would willingly go through it, because religions can convince people to do amazing things.  If that's all they're taught, they could be brought up to volunteer and maybe even get some kind of reward for it.

Henrik:  I mean there are a few animated movies out there now. I got a few tips from a few of my website visitors who tipped me on one movie called "Happy Feet" and another called "Aunt Bully" I think and both of these movies is basically the idea is one movie ends on the note that the UN is taking over and basically things are happy and jolly towards the end, but another movie is basically a portrayal that the root of the evil is the humans. Both these two latest movies go into that very deeply and on a very emotional level. I can't imagine being a kid and sitting watching these movies. I mean on one level it's okay, it’s nice. We need to be environmentally aware of course, but this stuff goes too far. It's ridiculous because the human is clearly the enemy in these movies.

Alan:  That's where it's going with all of this, but once you start touching on these topics you become maybe a problem. As I say, if we were teaching meditation or something like that we'd be perfectly safe, or talking about ghosts all the time. That's quite acceptable. If you start touching on what’s available if you want to search for it, the books from the big organizations that are planning this future and you just repeat what they're saying, but because you’re not talking to a university level ivy league type students you become a problem, because you're talking to the general public who are supposed to be kept dumb and happy and content with the television.

Henrik:  Yes, sure. I mean that this is to be a recent phenomena especially since we've got the – we're allowed, rather, to use the Internet for this kind of stuff. I mean it might be that they think that things have taken a wrong turn in a sense that people are actually beginning to be interested in topics like these and much more of course.

Alan:  Yes. Well, I'm glad the site's up though.

Henrik:  Yes, me too.

Alan:  I think that the more exposure we get out there, the less likelihood there is for them to suddenly pull it again.

Henrik:  I hope so too, of course, because I mean as I said in the beginning, I'm going to pursue this and try to squeeze out of the hosting company what they're going to do to prevent this in the future. At this point I recommend no one to sign up with one.com the hosting company because the help there has been lousy, so don't support those guys.

Alan:  Yes. I'm glad it's up and well thanks for talking tonight.

Henrik:  Yes, it's been wonderful. Thank you very much for inviting me, Alan, and being able to speak with you. It's been a pleasure.

Alan:  It’s always a pleasure.

Henrik:  Thank you.

Alan:  Thanks to Henrik Palmgren from Red Ice Radio for being on the show. For me and Hamish, it's good night and your god or gods go with you. I'm leaving you with a little song for the Internet providers, with whom we have this strange love-hate relationship. Hope you enjoy it.

"Suspicious Minds"

By Elvis Presley

We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out
Because I love you too much baby

Why can't you see
What you're doing to me
When you don't believe a word I say?

We can't go on together
With suspicious minds
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds

So, if an old friend I know
Drops by to say hello
Would I still see suspicion in your eyes?

Here we go again
Asking where I've been
You can't see these tears are real
I'm crying

We can't go on together
With suspicious minds
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds

Oh let our love survive
Or dry the tears from your eyes
Let's don't let a good thing die

When honey, you know
I've never lied to you
Mmm Yes, Yes

We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out
Because I love you too much baby

Why can't you see
What you're doing to me
When you don't believe a word I say?

We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out
Because I love you too much baby

We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out
Because I love you too much baby

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Richard Syrett: My first guest, I always receive lots of emails from you saying, I'd like this person on the show, I'd like that person on the show, but by far and away, the number one request in terms of a guest that I get is this gentleman.  He is, I mentioned before, he's sort of a guru in the conspiracy theory culture.  Alan Watt is his name.  He's a long-time researcher into the causative forces behind major changes in historical development, and his website is called Cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  Alan Watt, once again, a pleasure to welcome you to the Richard Syrett Show, News Talk 1010, CFRB.

Alan Watt: It's a pleasure to be on, on this cold night.

Richard:  Indeed, now you're up in Sudbury way.  And I happened to be on your website, and you have lots of material there that's free to download.  You've got a video there that you recently produced, called Reality Check, and that is, there's some amazing stuff in there.  We're going to talk a little bit about that.  The process of creating and destroying a civilization, by these super ruling elite families, how wars are created by these same groups to consolidate power, and as you point out, the elite are never on the losing end of the war.  They simply discard the old, used-up empire like an old jacket, and move their base of operation to a new location, and we've seen this time and time again, throughout history.  So that's, we're going to talk specifically tonight about the end of the Anglo-American Empire.  Now, before we do that, talk to me a little bit about how these ruling elites first of all create our reality for us, whether we're talking about, you know, cities, or culture, or an economic system.

Alan: It's all connected because thousands of years ago, some of the Greek philosophers described the process of how an aristocracy comes to be, primarily through selective breeding, special breeding.  Darwinism is nothing new whatsoever; in fact, it's a religion with the elite.  And all Darwin did was express the very high Masonic religion, which they all had been taught, so the ancient philosophers like Plato go into the culture creation, and how you can take over people, give them a culture, upgrade their culture in the direction that suits you, when it suits you, and for the purposes that it does suit you, so they'll serve you.  They also talked about how they created wars.  The ancient Greeks in their heyday had many islands, and overpopulation was one of their prime concerns.  So they used to arrange little wars between the different islands at different times to cull off so much of their population.  And, of course, the aristocracy, even in those days, you might say they were the early military-industrial complex, so they would finance the wars and the armor and the horses and all the backup that's necessary.  So, there's nothing really new under the sun, as they say.  And this knowledge was never lost.  They were writing about this two and a half thousand years ago.

Richard: Now, the idea that the elite, these elites could foment wars would tend to suggest that there are no, you know for example, the Cold War.  It was the Americans or the West versus the Soviets.  But really, the Soviets and the Americans were being ruled by the same group, so they were fighting themselves.

Alan: Yes.  And if you look into the early history of the Soviet or the Bolshevik Revolution, and there were many books published in the West prior to the Revolution and during it and immediately afterwards, and you'll find that the West was all for the Revolution.  In fact, the British Aristocracy used to get guided tours and go over and visit Lenin.  Trotsky used to complain about it, and he wrote about it in his own books, his own memoirs.

Richard: I read once when Khrushchev came to the United States, I think it was the first time, back in the early '60s, and he went to Disneyland and of course met with JFK, but the first place he went was to see David Rockefeller.

Alan: Yes, that's right.  And not only that.  Winston Churchill, prior to that in World War II, he used to come over, it wasn't FDR he went to see first, it was Bernard Baruch, who was the biggest banker at the time in the US.

Richard: So that's where the power lies?

Alan: Yeah.

Richard: And just before Khrushchev was sort of removed from power after the Cuban Missile Crisis, I believe around, well a few years after that, 1964, I think before Brezhnev came in, it was interesting that David Rockefeller again had made a trip to Moscow, and the very next day, Khrushchev was sort of quietly pushed out the way.

Alan: Yes.

Richard: Alan Watt, my guest.  We're talking about the end of the Anglo-American Empire, but much more really.  The ruling elites and how they create and destroy civilizations, create culture, create war in order to consolidate power.  And his website is Cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  416-872-1010.  Star Talk.  Star 8255.  And toll free from out of town, 1-800-561-CFRB.  Alan, when we come back, let's talk a little bit about, since we're talking about the decline of the American empire, let's talk a little bit about Western culture, and how that was created for us, sort of top down, whether we're talking about the Beatles experiment, or the Elvis Presley experiment, these types of things.  And we'll sort of get into that.  That's always an interesting area for me, as well.  416-872-1010.  Star Talk.  Toll free from out of town, 1-800-561-CFRB.  The Richard Syrett Show, here on News Talk 1010 CFRB.

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Richard: We're talking about the end of the Anglo-American Empire, the creation, destroying of civilizations by the ruling elite.  How these powerful, powerful, ancient bloodlines use war to consolidate power, and how they really, once they build up an empire, and suck it dry, basically, and are ready to move on to something else, they simply discard it like an old jacket, and move their base of operation to a new location.  But let's talk about how they use culture to control us in a sense.  And it's interesting, you know the website, Alan, Cutting Through the Matrix.  We talk about a matrix as a sort of artificial reality, which is what they've I guess created for us, and culture is a lot of that.  It's created sort of from the top down.  It's not a democratic process, certainly, through I guess, things like vertical integration, when they own all the means of, you know, they own the record companies, they own the radio stations, and the newspapers, and then they can create certain phenomena, cultural phenomena, like Elvis Presley or the Beatles. How are they using those to control society?

Alan: Well, even before, long before that, again, you can read Plato's Republic.  He goes into the culture creation industry, where at one time in Greece for instance, ancient Greece, everyone had to attend at least one showing of traveling road shows, where they'd have drama plays put on.  And even the slaves had to attend.  And from those, they actually mimic certain new words, habits, gestures, catch phrases, and also the fashions were involved, and he actually called it the fashion industry and the music industry at that time.

Richard: Did Plato actually use those terms?

Alan: Yeah.

Richard: Wow.

Alan: And nothing has changed, because you give people a culture.  When you're born, you think everything is quite natural, simply because it exists this way, you see.  And if your parents don't know, and they've adopted it too, and never asked questions, then the child never thinks to ask questions, like why is there money?  Who controls money?  Why are my parents always worried about money, etc, etc, etc, that kind of thing.  We think it's normal.  And school, up until now really, has been training children from a very early age to get prepared to spend eight hours a day at work or more, you know.  That's what school is for.  It's a process to earn money to pay taxes to be a good citizen and then you have the special elite bureaucracies and expert classes that run your life for you.  This is the end product that they were aiming for, discussed by Aldous Huxley, and discussed by Bertrand Russell, a world run by experts where even your opinions are marketed to you.  And children who haven't got parents to tell them this will think it's all quite natural, including the music they listen to.  A long time ago, really a hundred-odd years ago, they tried to bring in an early form of jazz, and the mini skirt, and free sex.  And H.G. Wells was picked by Huxley's grandfather, the professor in England, to be a propagandist for this newest coming establishment.  And Wells wrote about free love in the late 1800s.

Richard: What was the purpose of that?  Was it an attempt to undermine the family?

Alan: They knew that the industrial era would only last so much longer.  And they were already planning a post-industrial society with a managed population, who would accept authority without question.  As apart from the old times, people used to rebel once in a while in different countries, and they were looking for scientific means to control the people.  And what they realized is the family unit was the last vestige of the tribe, and when Big Brother comes looking for you, the whole tribe might stand up and help defend you.  So government wanted to have no obstacles in the way from themselves to each individual, and they've been very successful in marketing this new system.

Richard: Do you think the feminist movement was created for the same purpose?

Alan: Absolutely.  It was written about long before we saw it emerge in scientific circles, including the Communist system and the Manifesto.  All of that was discussed even in the late 1800s by the followers of Marx.

Richard: Is it this overt, Alan, that for example, let's take for example the sex, drugs, and rock-and-roll culture that came out of the '60s.  I think the name that's been attached to it is Project Aquarius.  Does this come, is there like a meeting of the Tavistock Institute and someone stands up with a folder and says, “I've got four young lads we've discovered playing down in the Cavern Club in Liverpool; I think if we get the machinery behind these people, they can introduce, you know LSD to the Americans, and it will be a great distraction.”  Does it happen just like that?

Alan: No.  They always do a lot of groundwork first.  And when they brought the Beatles out, they had four clean-cut guys so that the parents wouldn't object.  And they had special suits made for them without the collar, and little things like that, and their little Beatle haircut, little fringe on the brow.  But no long hair, no beards, no drugs, and the first few songs were just dance-along type songs.  And once they had a big, big following.  Mind you, they immediately had a big following, because the marketers and all the media worldwide joined in at the same time.  That took big bucks to promote and to get that across.  And they were guaranteed hits from then on, because people like what they're told to like.  That's what you find.

Richard: I guess my point was, do you think that the Beatles were in fact a psychological warfare experiment?

Alan: Oh, there's no doubt on that.  There's no doubt.  You can go into the words of the songs, never mind the sort of musician that put it together for them.  There's a lot of classical stuff involved there too, if you look at the chord schemes, etc.  No novices play that kind of stuff, and tempo changes and key changes in the middle of songs, right off the bat, when you're that young, and none of them had any musical education, according to themselves.  And Paul McCartney said that, he still can't write music, you know, or read it.

Richard: Interesting.  I had heard that in 1969, John Lennon traveled to Toronto, prior to the Beatles announcing their breakup and that he met with Marshall McLuhan, and McLuhan sort of set Lennon straight as to how he was being used and who he was and what it was all about in terms of what you've just been describing.  And for Lennon that sort of cemented his decision, yeah, I don't want to be a part of that.

Alan: Yeah, he was told, McLuhan told him, and he really respected McLuhan.  And McLuhan told him.  He says, you're being used.  And he told him why.  Because Lennon did envisage this great new world where everyone would be treated equally and fairly, etc.  And he was told straight out he was being used.  And that's when the breakup started, really, after that.

Richard: Alan Watt, cuttingthroughthematrix.com is the website.  Long-time researcher into the causative forces behind major changes in historical development.  When we come back, we'll talk about what the ruling elite have in store for North America.  The End of the Anglo-American Empire insight, perhaps.  416-872-1010.  Star Talk.  Toll Free from out of town, 1-800-561-CFRB.  The Richard Syrett Show, back with more in a moment, on News Talk 1010.

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Richard: Welcome back.  Alan Watt, my guest.  www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  Alan, if you look at what's going on in the United States in particular, all this outsourcing, and the rot that has set in in the inner cities.  And it seems to be no political will to do much about that.  I mean, if you didn't know any better, the misadventures in the Middle East, if you didn't know any better, you would suspect that they're deliberately trying to wreck their own country.

Alan: Well, you're right.  You always destroy the old, to bring in the new.  That's part of the system.

Richard: Let's talk a little bit about what they're doing, how they're doing it, and why they're doing it.

Alan: The general population simply have a purpose for a ruling elite, so they're very utilitarian.  And once your purpose is over, they have no problems about finding ways to dispose of you.  Only last week I think it was, there was a sudden push across Canada.  It all broke out in little places, even Sudbury, for the new sustainable development from the United Nations.  And again, all over the place, there's little blurbs about new eco-villages.  Now these are the habitat areas of the United Nations, they're authorized by the UN, these are to be the habitat areas for the future, but not for the average person, it's for the wealthy, a wealthy class of people.

Richard: Yeah, once the world has been emptied, and it's basically returned to their, sort of a new feudalism.

Alan: Yes.  And the UN authorized it under Agenda 21.  It's the Agenda for the 21st Century, where there's to be a vast reduction in population.  The UN will take over the reigns of government openly, that is.  It has been already for a long time, but they will be open about it after 2010, because then the Americas will be officially, completely joined.  That was also part of the old plan.  And the UN eventually, said too that they would dish out the food to the three trading blocs of the world, and it will be up to each bloc to make sure that it keeps its population in check.  Because if they go over a certain limit, they will not get extra food.  So definitely the population planning, rather than family planning; family planning was the start of it.  This is the whole thing now.  It's population planning.  That's coming.  And we're looking to a completely controlled system for the near future really.

Richard: With the idea of outsourcing for them, when a lot of all these manufacturing jobs moving to Mexico or moving to China.  Wal-mart, you know, all of their goods now practically made in China.  And ostensibly the United States is supposed to be not at war with China, but preparing for the inevitability of an inevitable war with China.  It seems to me though, that there's a little bit on an inconsistency there.  It's almost like the elites in North America are preparing to move their base of operation to China.

Alan: They already are.  It's been happening for a few years now, in fact.  They've even had it on television, where they show you these brand new supercities that have been put up.  Ultra, ultra modern, the latest things, with all the gadgetry, for the elite of the West to move straight into.  They're already set up, and I know people, because I get calls from higher-level bureaucrats in the US and they've been training their children to speak Chinese for the last ten years or so.  And they're taking them over to these cities to work.  So there's nothing new in this at all.  Our own Maurice Strong of Canada was over there for years setting up a lot of this new system.  And China also got the backing of the United Nations as the model state for the world because of the way it plans its society, and keeps its population in check.  And it runs with an iron fist, you might say.  So, China is the model state for the whole world.  We're supposed to copy them.

Richard: Is it inevitable?  Is war being planned between the United States and China by these ruling elites?

Alan: I doubt it.  It was the same nonsense with the Soviet Union and the States.  When inquiries went on back in the '60s and '70s as to the big foundations in the U.S., like the Rockefeller Foundation, Ford and Carnegie, etc., it was the Reece Commission that was held and it was Norman Dodd who went to the Ford Foundation that's now run by the Rockefeller Foundation and the Chairman told him, he says, our job as a foundation is to plan the future so that the U.S. and the Soviet system will merge into one, without any problems.

Richard: Yeah, at the height of the Cold War, even Eisenhower, later, much later, Reagan, of course, he referred to the Soviets as an evil empire.  They were secretly, I don't know how, even secretly, but meeting, negotiating with their Soviet counterparts, on you know, cooperating in terms of education and so forth.

Alan: And also we have Toffler, who came out with The Third Wave.  That was the merger of Communism and Capitalism, so that an aristocracy would run the world, a very rich aristocracy.  But beneath them would be a huge bureaucratic system running the people in a Communistic type fashion.  So that was called the Third Wave.  And Toffler of course wrote Future Shock and other big books.  And every Congressman in the U.S. was given a copy of that book by Newt Gingrich, so that was, that is the plan.  They have merged the Soviet system.  We see it in the bureaucracies we have.  They just grow like crazy.

Richard: Is part of the depopulation plan, does it involve limited nuclear war, say set off by an invasion of Iran or something like that?

Alan: I don't think that's even necessary, to be honest with you.  I've got books from the Royal Institute of International Affairs.  And Canada has its Institute, its Canadian Institute of International Affairs.  Every Commonwealth country has one.  And they work towards world government.  And when you have the minutes of their meetings over the years, they discussed this years ago, that eventually China would take over from the U.S. as the policeman of the world for a while.  So that will happen, as the U.S. goes down to it.  And they said that.  The U.S. would exhaust itself through the final wars, and then China would take over, because they would be the only ones who could afford an army.

Richard: But those at the top, whether you're talking about Morgans or the Rockefellers or the Rothschilds, they're not going to be on the losing end.  They're simply going to move their headquarters to the Far East, I guess.

Alan: Absolutely.  As I say, Maurice Strong, what an amazing guy that is.  Canada is a big player in this.  We have big families in Canada, but they're very quiet.  But Maurice Strong, that worked all his life for the Rockefeller family.  I saw a program on the public broadcasting one night, on a Sunday rainy evening.  And I seldom watch TV.  And it was about Maurice Strong in China, and he had a huge complex there, donated by the United Nations, and he was working towards all integration of trade with China, and had been for quite a few years.  This is after he left Ontario Hydro that he privatized.  That's why they brought him in.  Before that he was second in command at the World Bank.  Well, in this little talk about China, he left, and this is in Beijing, he left his main complex, went to a graveyard, to lay a wreath on, I think it was his aunt's grave.  And it said on his aunt's grave that she was one of the main advisors to Mao Tse Tung.

Richard: Unbelievable.

Alan: It's incredible.  And that was on public broadcasting.

Richard: Mao Tse Tung, one of the greatest mass murders of the 20th Century, and yet, you know, people like Pierre Trudeau just thought he was a hero.

Alan: Well, Pierre Trudeau, remember, was head of the Comintern, that's the International Communists Party, and he led the Canadian delegation to Moscow in 1952.  Now, every media in Canada knew that, but none of them mentioned that particular fact when he ran for Prime Ministership.

Richard: Yeah.  And even some of those who parade around as you know, Republicans or Conservatives or Capitalists are really underneath that Collectivists.

Alan: That's a fact.  They're all chosen long before the public even hear of them to vote for.  They're vetted their entire lives.  And many of them are actually trained from a very early age, just like the Rhodes Scholarships do.  They train them from a very early age, give them special benefits, and give them protection from the law.  They can do things that other young boys can't do and get away with.  So they grow up very arrogant, very confident, and they go along with this globalist, elitist agenda, believing that they are elitists themselves.

Richard: Alan Watt, Cutting Through the Matrix, on the Richard Syrett Show.  Back with more in a moment on News Talk 1010 CFRB.

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Richard: Welcome back, Alan Watt, my guest.  Cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  I highly recommend you check out the website and download the free video there called Reality Check.  A lot of the things we're talking about tonight he talks about maybe in greater detail on that video that he produced recently.  And right now we're talking about, well, a pretty big, broad issue, but it's really about how the ruling elites, these are ancient bloodlines, and how they create our realities for us.  How they create and destroy civilizations and empires to suit their own needs, create wars to consolidate power, and to bring about major changes, or paradigm shifts.  And we were talking about, well we were talking about the emergence of China and, how does the North American Union, which is being planned under our very noses, how does that fit into this scheme to basically disassemble the North American Empire, the American Empire?

Alan: Well, they've had every year, they've had for many years the Summit of the Americas.  And these panels from all countries have been working diligently every day, writing up all the rules and laws for integration of the complete Americas.  This was discussed initially to the public or at least revealed openly in the Free Trade Negotiations.  And Shelley Anne Clark, if you remember, went across Canada, she drew up all the books for negotiations between the U.S. and Canada.  She was the highest-grade civil servant in Canada at the time, in Ottawa.  And she came out trying to tell the public that we'd just given away our country, because we were all merging together with the U.S. and Mexico, to be followed by Chile.  And she did say, back in the late '80s, early 90s, that it would be officially recognized in 2005.  Well, a little two or three liner came out in 2005 in March, and that's when they admitted that Fox and Martin and Bush had signed the North American Agreement to basically merge.

Richard: So in actual fact it's already happened.  We just don't know it yet.

Alan: Yeah, all we're running towards, all we live through in fact, our whole lives, is one long-range business plan.  And most of it in your life was planned before you were born.

Richard: Let's talk about some of the players, not necessarily specifically by name, but just how they operate.  These are ancient bloodlines.  Many of them belonging to Secret Societies.  And you mentioned that they have this breeding program.  Now, does that mean that their wives are selected for them?  Like for example, I heard that John F. Kennedy, he didn't choose Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy.  She was chosen for him.  I mean, quite a remarkable woman, beautiful woman.  He probably certainly would have welcomed the opportunity to marry her, but is that how it works, they are chosen for them to preserve these ancient bloodlines?

Alan: They're chosen for those reasons, and for specific qualities.  Again, going back to Plato, he talked about this in The Republic.  He said that we, the Guardian class, and he meant the guardian of the world, of the whole system, the Guardian class don't breed out into the lower classes.  But he said too, that the bureaucratic elite, that they would use, could be specially bred for specific qualities.  So, if you wanted a woman, or an offspring with a certain scientific inclination, say physics, you would mate them up with a male of the same, and there's a good chance that the offspring will carry that same ability.  So, this was known thousands of years ago, and if we go down through kings and queens and aristocracies over the hundreds and hundreds of years, up to the present day, they still have their partners chosen for them.  Now they certainly do make sure that they also marry money.  They always merge money together, and often huge tracts of land, sometimes countries in fact, were handed over in the dowries.  That was common.  So, yeah, they're matched up for wealth, power, and certain abilities.

Richard: Now, what about a guy like Clinton?  Now, again, we're not talking about as wealthy as they may be now through his speaking engagements, etc.  This is a quick aside.  It's always interesting, you know, how presidents like Richard Nixon when they are president, not actually particularly very wealthy men, and they're making about $100,000 a year.  As soon as they leave office, they become immensely wealthy.  But, now when we're talking about the Clintons, or we're talking about the Kennedys, we're not talking about, these are not the ancient bloodlines.  These are not the true ruling elites.  These are the bureaucrats.  These are the foot soldiers, I guess, really, aren't they?

Alan: They're a higher bureaucratic class, really.  The Clinton lineage, if you look at the Clintons down through U.S. history, they're quite extensive, right back to the Revolution.  In fact there was Clintons in both sides, fighting for the British and the Americans.  They were very wealthy people at the time.

Richard: Yes, the cover story for him was just, you know, a poor boy from Arkansas, the pride of a single mother, an abusive stepfather, etc.  Not true?

Alan: No.  Benjamin Franklin talked about, bringing back in the wife of Kennedy.  Franklin belonged to the Hellfire Club.  He belonged to every High Masonic, Rosicrucian group at the time.  And the Hellfire Club in England in London, High Wycombe, they had their own prostitution house, but it wasn't the average prostitute.  It was selective women who carried what they call special genes.  We would call it today special genes, certain qualities.  And the head of that House at the time was Madame Bouvier.  She was an ancestor of Jacqueline Kennedy.  And so, it was an honor to mate with her for the offspring, if you had served the Great Work.  That's how it worked in those days.  So even that was a high honor to mate with someone who carried the right kind of genes, and then that offspring would be elevated to a higher position.

Richard: Amazing.  Alright.  We'll step away momentarily, come back on the other side, and continue our discussion, with Alan Watt, Cutting Through the Matrix, right here on the Richard Syrett Show, News Talk 1010, CFRB.

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Richard: Welcome back.  Alan Watt, my guest, Cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  Alan, how does one arise to the lower echelons?  I mean, you can't become part of the ruling elite.  That's a birthright, these ancient families, bloodlines.  I guess in that case, we'd be talking about the Hapsburgs and the Holy Roman Empire, the Windsors, the Rothschilds, etc.  But how does one rise through, up to at least the lower echelons of this elite group?

Alan: It's one of the things which happens in what's loosely called Freemasonry.  Many people join it at University, under different names.  And it's those ones in particular who may get introduced to their potential wife by a Grand Master, who will make a suggestion, which is really an order, if you take a word from the wise, as they say, and it's the third generation that can go beyond the 33rd degree.  That's what they're after, the third generation offspring of selective breeding of Freemasons, and women who have been reared in Freemasonic families, and probably members of the Eastern Star.  That's how it traditionally was.

Richard: Traditionally was.  How about today?

Alan: Pretty much the same, actually.  As I say, it's the third generation they want.  So, the first generation, if you were introduced to a wife who has been brought up in a Freemasonic family, the offspring can go higher than you, maybe around the 40, but it's the third generation who can go much, much higher, up to around a ninety or so, or even beyond 90, 96.

Richard: There are 96 degrees?

Alan: In some of them.  Even in the OTO, the Order Templi Orientis, which Aleister Crowley took over.  It already existed as a Masonic Institute.  They have 96.

Richard: I was not aware.  I knew there were degrees above 33rd degree, but I did not know it went that high.

Alan: It goes beyond that too.  Then you go into the noble orders, you see, where you're knighted and then you go up from there.

Richard: You know, the picture that you've painted for us, it's kind of sad, isn't it?  I mean, it's dark and it's sad.  I mean, how do us useless eaters, as Kissinger I think once referred to us, the rest of us plebes, the proletariats down here, who will never achieve, you know, even the lower echelons of the elite class through Freemasonry etc, how do we come to terms with this rather, I don't know, this gray existence?

Alan: It truly is a matter of cutting through different levels, and accepting it.  It doesn't mean that you run off in all different directions and look for space aliens or reptiles or anything.  It means that you cut through by understanding, first of all, who you really are.  Not the composite that you've been made into, with what you think are your likes and dislikes and all the rest of it.  These have all been marketed to you and you've had a good indoctrination through the social school system.  Very few people truly know themselves.  They parrot what everyone else parrots, and that's why they think they're normal.  If the next-door neighbor says the same as I do on different topics, then I must be sane.  That's how you judge your sanity.  And in reality, we're all kept in tremendous ignorance, on one level, and yet on another level the information has been published by the elite themselves in various books over a hundred-odd years or more.

Richard: Still, you know, it is a cage and we are slaves, but it's a comfortable cage, isn't it?  We have all the amenities, and some of the things that our culture, artificial as it may be, has to offer, are quite nice.  You know, music, art.

Alan: Yeah, you always entertain people.  Aldous Huxley, when he gave the lecture at Berkley, which is on my website, you can hear him talking, Huxley said the reason that Rome fell, and he told a partial truth, but not all of it, he said was because the elite couldn't provide enough bread and circuses for the people.  He said, however, run by a scientific dictatorship, an oligarchy too, he really referred to the oligarchy that ran it, he said there was no reason that he could foresee why it shouldn't work indefinitely.  And that's what's happened.  It's actually happened.

Richard: We don't call it the Roman Empire anymore, but it's still the same, right, the same bloodlines, etc.

Alan: That's right. I mean, they didn't have sports arenas in the early days of H.G. Wells, and it was Wells that said himself, we shall give sports stadiums across the countries, and addict the people to sports.  And they've done that.  That's all you hear now.  It's marketed right to you.  And the average guy grows up thinking, well, to be accepted, I better like sports or at least pretend I do.  And it's non-stop.  So, things like that are actually given to us to keep us occupied, not thinking.  It's harmless, because when you're giving vent that way, in your powerless life, watching a team win for you, in reality nothing is really happening in your own personal life.  You're not winning at work.  You're not winning at the office.  You're not even winning at home.

Richard: And then you have wars which are very handy to siphon off the less desirable elements from any society at any given time.

Alan: Yes, and this is no secret.  As I say, it's been well written about by the big institutes.  Jacques Attali, who wrote Millennium, is a big player, he's working at the United Nations now, but he was the Kissinger for Europe, who spearheaded the amalgamation of the European side, all the countries together.  And he wrote Millennium.  And that was published about 1990.  And he said, that after Europe, the United States will start to merge.  And it will completely deindustrialize as the jobs and factories go to China, primarily.  He said, and the next boat people the world will see will be American citizens, and North American citizens leaving their homelands, looking for work abroad.

Richard: Well, on that happy note, Alan, we'll put a cap on it, and say Good Night.  I thank you again.  The website is cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  Is there a 1-800 number you want to give out, or do they order all of your CDs and videos from there?

Alan: It's all on the site, the website.

Richard: Cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  Alan Watt, always a pleasure.  Thank you.

Alan: It's a pleasure, too.

Richard: All right.  Bye-bye.