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Jackie Patru: Good evening.  Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  Today is the 17th of August.  Is that right, Alan?

Alan: It is.

Jackie: It is August the 17th, folks, in the year 2005.  And it is, of course, the end of our broadcast week.  We’re here Monday through Wednesday, and WFAR has a new satellite, and I was going to get it, and I am so sorry that I just now thought about it.  For those of you, I guess people who are listening on satellite know it then, because I know that it’s been announced.  But I will get it, and I will share it with you, for those of you who prefer, if you have a CBAND satellite, who prefer to do that.  Alan is back with us tonight.  Actually, I had told Alan this afternoon that it was going to be you and me tonight, folks, because I had stuff I wanted to share with you, and I canned today.  I haven’t canned in three years, because, for the last two years, the garden has just been totally drowned out.  And I got 17 pints of delicious pickle relish today, from my homegrown cucumbers.  And it was a thrill, but I had forgotten how long a process it is and all the steps that we have to go through to get that done.  And it was about 5 minutes till the hour of nine, before I filled that last jar.  So, Alan graciously, when I called him, said, of course, he will be on with us, and here he is.  And Alan, thank you.

Alan: It’s a pleasure.

Jackie: Our spiritual message, and I didn’t want to forget this, and I did.  This would be from Psalm 139, folks.  "Search me father, and know my heart.  Test me and know my anxious thoughts.  See if there is any offensive way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." That’s from Psalm 139, verses 23 and 24.  Know thyself.  Jesus said there is nothing more to know.   And maybe that’s our whole mission here in a sense, Alan.

Alan: I think it is, because, I mean even though a lot of the Psalms were taken from the Egypt wisdom writings, there’s a lot of truth in there.  But when you were saying, search me father, I was seeing in my mind, search me government, because you see these black-clad guys searching people all over the place now.

Jackie: I know.  You said that the last time I did this.

Alan: And of course, they’re looking for anything they can find as well that’s out of the ordinary, even your opinions.  So, we’re certainly going through the opposite side you might say of what was given thousands of years ago.  They’ve reversed it, and now the government, or the state, or the world state is really in charge.  And we’re seeing the misery that it can produce.  But we’re just at the beginning, at least in the Western countries, of the beginning of misery.

Jackie: You know, Alan, the one thing I keep in mind, and you’ve said this before, that this plan is millennia old.  It’s been forever going on.  And they’ve never been totally successful.  And it doesn’t mean just because of what it looks like to us right now, I just, it can’t.  I mean, I’m not saying that we should just sit back and say, oh, it ain’t going to happen, but to be aware of what they have in store, what their intentions are.  We see what’s happening.  I mean, it’s like the price of gas right now.  And it just keeps going up and up and up, and as you said, you know, when I mentioned, well, you know, everybody is complaining, but, we only complain to each other, because where do you go?  And in this system.

Alan: There’s no complaints department.

Jackie: There’s no complaint department in this system.  So, I am not trying to make light of what we see, and what we’ve learned, that their intention for us and for this world is.  And yet, things happen.  For example, I don’t know if you’ve heard this.  Maybe it’s been talked about on other broadcasts.  The lady, who went to Texas, who’s in Crawford, Texas, camping out, protesting the death of her son, in Iraq, because she knows that her son died for nothing.  He died because of lies.  And now hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of people, parents of these soldiers that have been killed are coming to support this cause.  And there evidently is a group in California, that had started what they called Arlington West, Arlington Cemetery West.  And what they did, is they made wooden crosses, and they’ve made a graveyard of all the names that they know of the soldiers that have been killed.  There’s about 2,000 of them now, I guess, and Alan, I think probably that count is probably half of, and of course, it doesn’t even bring in all of the ones that come back missing limbs, legs, and arms, and half of a face, and etc.  But anyway, because of what this lady is doing, and she’s just sitting there very peaceably, well, the people in California, moved their Arlington West cemetery to Texas.  And they’ve got, there’s a website I was reading it today, in fact, I’m going to send it to Darren to ask him to post it on Sweetliberty.org.  But what they did, is they put all of these crosses down the road, in a ditch, and you know, one by one by one by one by one, and there are more and more people coming all the time.  And those are the kinds of things, people that are not just sitting back.  People, maybe this woman doesn’t know diddly-squat about a long-range plan, but what she’s doing from her heart is protesting the sin, the crime, of what is happening to the young men and women that are killing and dying for the New World Order.  And that kind of stuff is uplifting.

Alan: Yeah, I think that’s one of the reasons they’re going to rush forward with their plans for Iran, and try and get it over and done with before anything else happens back home, you know.

Jackie: Well, and then there was that email I got that Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico, and I went to the website of the state government of New Mexico, and it’s there.  When I first read it, I wondered if somebody just made it up.  He issued an executive order, calling an emergency to protect their borders there, I think four counties there at the line, the Mexican border.  And one of the statements he made in the press release was that the federal government is doing little or nothing, and that something has to be done.  Now, they’re still trying to work with the federal government, but they mentioned, you know, besides the illegal aliens that are swarming across our borders, stolen and killed cattle, and drug running, and this type of a thing.  Now, I don’t know if there’s more to that.  I’m sorry to say this.  Maybe I’m becoming jaded, but I think there’s more to it just than this guy, because I don’t know any governors that aren’t in the pockets of, you know, the controllers.

Alan: Well, it isn’t as though they’ve just noticed.  This has been going on for years.  And I’m sure there will be some other government rule, or law, ready to get it put into place; it was probably all drawn up long before he came up with this.  And it will effect probably everybody in the US, rather than just the ones who are coming across the border into the US.  There’s got to be something else behind it.

Jackie: There probably is, but for right now, it looks good.  Let’s put it that way.  And we’ll watch it.  We’ll watch to see.

Alan: Because George Bush has already signed the unification of the Americas, back in March, with the two prime ministers, one from Mexico and one from Canada.  So, we know the federal scheme.  And this guy has to be in on it, you know.

Jackie: Or he wouldn’t be alive today, Alan.

Alan: He wouldn’t be alive.  And he had to have known when they signed the unification.  Well, it happened, you know, down his way, when they went down and signed it anyway.  He’d have to have known about it.  They wouldn’t leave him out of it.  So, there’s another reason behind it, for sure.

Jackie: I think there probably is.  In fact, as I said earlier today, it could even be something as simple as a close friend of his owned a ranch that got raided or something.  Well maybe not.

Alan: Either that, or the drug drops didn’t work out properly, and they’re peeved.

Jackie: You know, his name is Bill Richardson.  Well, I just noticed this.  And what I want to look into, it probably isn’t the same person, but there was a Senator, Bill Richardson, from California, and he was the same one that wrote the book when he was a state Senator, titled, "So You Think We Read the Laws", "You Think We Read the Bills" it was supposed to be, it was supposed to be humorous.  But it really basically told about, you know, how the state legislatures, they don’t know what the heck they’re doing, and they just rubber-stamp everything.  He was also the one that started, the other Bill Richardson, and I don’t know if this is the same guy, but seems like I saw a picture of that Bill Richardson, and this guy looked like him, to me, from my memory.  He started gun owners of America.  And of course, that’s another shill organization, phony conservative, Larry Pratt, who heads it up, of course, is a long-time member of the Council for National Policy.

Alan: And also the big family that started up the CFR in the US for the Royal Institute of International Affairs, was the Pratt family.

Jackie: Oh, you’re kidding.

Alan: I wonder if he’s related.

Jackie: Oh, now wouldn’t that be interesting to check out.

Alan: In fact, their main record house in New York is actually called the Pratt House.

Jackie: Pratt House, yes, it is.

Alan: You always find the same family names cropping up down through history, over and over and over.  So, I wouldn’t be surprised.  The thing is, I mean, there’s nothing hidden about the agenda, because it’s all been well documented by many of the people involved, who were all for it.  H.G. Wells back in the early 1900s called it The Open Conspiracy, because anybody could get the material and the future by simply reading the books that they put out themselves.  And he went through the entire agenda, leading to the air police, he called them, where the air police would simply bomb all those countries or gas them, actually, or spray them from the skies, until they conformed to world government.  And it’s to be a world government run by scientists and experts.  And everybody would be subject to them.  So, this is well documented, there’s nothing....

Jackie: Who was this, Alan?

Alan: H.G. Wells.  And he worked for MI5.  He was a spokesman for the British government.  He was a propagandist actually.  And, of course, most people know him for his science fiction writings, and even those were actually, it was a form of predictive programming, they called it, to program the public, through novels, of what was to come.  That way, when it really does happen, you’re sort of familiar with the ideas, and you accept them more readily as being inevitable.  But he wrote an awful lot of books, which were non-fiction, and he was getting all the material for both of those types of books, from professors at Oxford University and Cambridge, and he just had to write a sort of story around them, to get them over to the public.  But he was the main propagandist for World War I for Britain.  And he coined the phrase, because they were running short of troops.  They couldn’t get enough cannon fodder, with the heavy machine guns, which, Maxim, Henry Maxim sold to the German side and it was Lord Vicars, went in partnership with the same guy, who sold them to the British and the French.

Jackie: Now who was he?  Was he an American or what?

Alan: Vicars was English.

Jackie: He was British.

Alan: So, Vicars and Maxim formed a company based in Switzerland, a neutral country.  And they knew the war was coming up, because their peer group had told them so.  And so, they sold these heavy machine guns to all sides, and made a massive profit.  You might say they made a killing, you know.  And, of course, they weren’t prosecuted for it.  And Vicars was promoted from being a Sir to a Lord, for his part in it.  But anyway, H.G. Wells coined the term, because they were running short of men, the War to End All Wars.  That was to get the young idealists to join up.

Jackie: In other words, we’ll go fight for this, and then we’ll have World Peace from now on.

Alan: That’s Utopia.  So, he wrote a book called The Open Conspiracy, and goes through the whole agenda.

Jackie: I read a piece today, when I pulled up my email.  Somebody wrote, I didn’t read the whole thing, I do a lot of skimming, scanning, whatever, but, it was somebody who had mentioned.  Oh, I know, it was a website.  I tried to go there too, and wasn’t able to get into it.  But, whoever wrote it, mentioned that the wars, that mentioned the Christians, that all the versions that there are of the Bible, every single one of them is the word of God, and not to be questioned.  And made that point, and that all of these wars are right out of the Old Testament.  Because the Old Testament is full of nothing but wars, Alan.

Alan: Oh, of course it’s all wars, because that’s the system.  See, this is a system that was developed thousands of years ago, based on money, not food or anything else.  Money controls everything.  And we’re all trained to work for money, not to work for food or clothing, or whatever.  We’re self-maintained slaves.  We buy all our own stuff, and the rest of it goes to our betters in taxes.  So, it’s a system, but the Bible has been tampered with, heavily.  Old Testament is OT which is also the Order of Templars.  We should remember that to begin with.  And it’s the Black Book.  Black is law in the Talmud.  And Black is also law in the Kabbala.

Jackie: Well, and Moses Mendelssohn was quoted as saying that Judaism is not a religion, it is a law religionized.

Alan: Well, all of them are.  All of them end up in laws, based on it, and really whether they call it religion or whatever.  If you go to the 46th psalm, see the number 10....

Jackie: And folks, when Alan says Sam, we pronounce it Salm.  I just, that confused me when you were talking about that before.

Alan: Okay.  Yeah, if you get six and four, or four and six, you get ten.  So, all combinations that work out to ten are the binary code, which is very high in High Masonic Coding.  You get the 46th one, and you count from the first word forward and you’ll find the word, "shake".  Then, forget "selah" at the bottom, which just means, make it so.  That’s put on to all of them.  Forget that one, and count backwards, 46, and you’ll find spear, Shakespeare, in there.

Jackie: Say, okay, would you repeat that one more time?  I’m making notes, but I didn’t get it all.  46 psalm.

Alan: Count forward, 46 words.

Jackie: 46 words forward.

Alan: You’ll get Shake.  Then you take, from the bottom, the end, forget selah, which is like amen, added on to it.  And count 46 back, and you’ll get spear.

Jackie: Okay, you go to the end of the 46 psalm.  So you start from the front, go 46 forward, you get Shake.  Go all the way to the back, count 46 back, and you get spear.

Alan: And that’s a little Masonic joke, right in there you see.

Jackie: No, but you know what.  There have been books written about Bible Code, and what they do is show that this could not have been done by man.

Alan: That’s nonsense.

Jackie: No, I know that.  Excuse me.  I shouldn’t have said show.  They use it as proof.

Alan: I know.

Jackie: That this could not have been done by man, because there’s too many of these types of codes in the Old Testament, because, I’ll tell you, when I read this, it was very astounding to me.  And now, it makes sense.

Alan: It was a joke.  I mean, Bacon, Francis Bacon is claimed by the High Masons, was also Shakespeare, which makes a lot of sense, because the history of Shakespeare, who basically, with all of the 180,000 words he came out with in his plays, that were new words, he created the English language.  That’s how they put it over.  And then the Bible, the King James Bible, reinforced that, because prior to those days, people were speaking, in England, they were speaking Old Saxon German.  That was the language.  So they created a new language and Bacon wrote about it in his own memoirs.  He said, we are creating the international language of the future, to be called English.

Jackie: Francis Bacon, does his name have anything to do with Ham?

Alan: Actually, it’s a play.  Frank is Red, like Franklin, Benjamin Franklin.  The term even in medicine for bright red blood is called frank.  Frank blood, you see.  And so, you have Ben, which is son, Jamin, which is I am in high Masonic coding.

Jackie: Benjamin?

Alan: I am the son of the red.  That’s what it means, the red way.

Jackie: But what about Francis Bacon, that world Bacon?

Alan: Well, he’s the same red, and there’s two ways there.  You’ve got a beacon, which is like a lighthouse, you might say, Illuminati.  And Illuminati did not begin with Weishaupt, because even the old Oxford dictionaries say it’s a movement which first began to be noticed, or put its head above water around the 13th Century AD in England.

Jackie: Douglas Reed suggested that possibly, that Weishaupt received it from the Knights Templars.

Alan: Weishaupt got it from the Royalty of Europe.  When he was, it’s in the official history books, when he was chased out of Bavaria, he sought refuge and was granted refuge in the House of Saxe-Gotha.  The present Queen of England, her full name is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.  So, they gave him a pension, in Saxe-Gotha, which was a part of Germany.  And they gave him a life-long pension to live there, and he lived there till he died.  So why would royalty grant Weishaupt, who was supposed to overthrow everybody, why would they grant him refuge there and a pension to live on, unless they had put him up there in the first place, to cause the revolution.  That’s the key to it.  These particular royal families eventually came over to England, and they took over England as well.  They all traced their roots back to Prussia.  But that’s the official history, you know.  And Weishaupt is a pseudonym for Wise Leader, that’s what it means.

Jackie: Wise Leader.  ...The way that he explained it, he didn’t say that Weishaupt got it from the Templars.  He just suggested that possibly.  But he explained how it’s set up in cells, and that the people on one level, they just take orders from the person just above them.  And they don’t know anything else that’s going on.

Alan: It’s still part of Freemasonry’s oaths today.  It’s said that you must obey immediately an order by a superior degree, and put your own moral judgment and opinions in reserve. You must carry out the order, regardless.

Jackie: And when you take a look at it, kind of from above, like a bird’s eye view of it, first of all, it does make sense.  You know, the fact that so many of their minions that are carrying out the plan, they’re only given like an Nth degree.  They have no idea.  They may be given an ostensible reason why they’re doing a particular job or something.  And they could be working alongside of other agents, that are doing their own part of it, and neither of them know that they’re agents.

Alan: Very often that’s the case.

Jackie: Okay.  And then, when you look at the whole thing, and you have the CIA and CSIS and the Mossad, and you know, all of the Secret Services in every country, then you see that it’s all, I see it like a puppet master up there.  That’s what I see in my mind’s eye, just pulling the strings on all of them.  It is a global spy network.

Alan: Oh, it is, it is.

Jackie: It’s a global spy network.

Alan: Every part is compartmentalized from the department above it.  And that’s why they’re all kept in the dark, except for their own little role or mission, and as you say, you can work, you could actually be working and there’s guys above you sabotaging your work, you know.  And you’d never know.  And those guys would have higher clearances than you, and all you would be told is the word would come down to leave it alone, don’t go any further.

Jackie: And not only that, but they actually kill each other, thinking that they’re killing an enemy.  So, talk about minions, Alan.  Pawns in a game.

Alan: Sure, and that’s the whole thing with secrecy of any kind.  Secrecy always is used for subterfuge and power.  That’s the reason for secrecy.  And Secret Services are at the top of the whole list.  And as I said before, Peter Wright, who was in MI5 and MI6, in his own book said that when he joined MI5 as a specialist, they took it for granted that he was a Freemason, and the woman who basically was stamping his cards for him, his IDs said, you must be a Freemason.  He says, oh, no.  She says, well, that’s impossible, everybody that works here is a Freemason.  So, he said it in his own book.  And that’s the same in Russia.  Trotsky said in his own memoirs, My Life, he said, I was initiated into Freemasonry while in prison.  And when he died, or was assassinated, he was writing what he called, he said it would be the greatest volume on Freemasonry ever written.  So he was going to, probably through his own ego, start to expose some things which he shouldn’t expose.  And he said, when he was escorted from Russia, because he was ordered out, his guards crossed different borders by giving Masonic signs to the opposing guards in different countries.  So, there’s the brotherhood at work, even at all the different guard posts.  No questions were asked.

Jackie: Do you think it’s true – I’ve heard this and read it – that if a person goes into court, that if they have some of the Masonic positions and etc, that if they can project that to the judge, that the judge will be lenient with them.

Alan: Yes.  It’s their law.

Jackie: Their law.

Alan: They cannot deny a fellow Freemason in distress.

Jackie: Well that would be, then it would behoove us to get some of their little, well, not a handshake, because you’re not going to be shaking hands with the judge, but some of their little sayings and phrases and positions.  Like Jack Benny.  Remember how.  We have to take a break right now.  Folks, we’re going to be back right after this, with Alan Watt.  Stay with us.

(Commercial Break)

Jackie: Alright, we’re back with Alan Watt.  Alan, you and I were going to on the break monitor our shortwave radios, and I forgot to do that.  Did you happen to flip yours on?

Alan: I didn’t; I didn’t plug it in, even.

Jackie: You didn’t even plug it.  Yeah, okay.  Maybe we’re losing our memories, Alan.

Alan: Could be, yeah.

Jackie: Anyway, folks, I wanted to remind you.  I mentioned this last night.  I don’t know how we’re coming in.  The one big one that I get constantly is that I am overmodulated.  My voice is overmodulated, which I don’t understand, because I understood the engineer, Jason, at WWCR, to say that they were getting a beautiful clear, crisp signal, from the satellite.  And if it’s going in that way, it should be coming out that way.

...Alright.  We were talking about the Masonic hand symbols or signals and stuff.  And I mentioned Jack Benny.  And remember how he used to stand with his arm crossed over his chest, and then his elbow on his hand, and then he’d hit the side of his face.  I was told that that’s the Masonic symbol of the square.

Alan: It is.  You’ll see a lot of people, famous people, including Stalin and Napoleon, with their hand across the chest and the right angle.

Jackie: No, but I mean, do you remember, did you ever see Jack Benny on TV?

Alan: Oh, yeah.

Jackie: Okay.  It wasn’t, it didn’t have like the right hand up across, but it was like really a square, because his hand, his arm, the forearm went across the chest.  And then his elbow was rested on that hand, and then his other hand was against his face.  But I was told that that’s a Masonic....

Alan: You see it every time world leaders meet on television.  You’ll see Mr. Bush greet Tony Blair, or whoever.  They did it with Arafat too, so they’re all Masons.  And it’s toe to toe, knee to knee.  And of course, it’s hand to hand, then your left hand goes to the elbow, then behind the back, hand to back, and they hug each other, and then they whisper in each other’s ear.  And that’s the five physical points of Freemasonry.  So, you see it all the time, with all the world leaders.  They’re all Masons.

Jackie: What if somebody was standing before a judge in a court room?  What could they do or say?

Alan: As a real last resort, if you really are in the wrong, and you want mercy....

Jackie: I’m not saying, no, forget it.  Very few people that go into court are in the wrong.

Alan: You’re talking about Masons.

Jackie: I’m talking Freemasonry.

Alan: And I’m just telling you that that’s what you do as a last resort as a Freemason, apart from having a word with the Sheriff’s Clerk, he’s more important than the judge.

Jackie: The Sheriff’s Clerk?

Alan: That’s right.  And then you go before the Judge.  And if the Judge still didn’t quite clue in, as a last resort, you try your Joseph Smith thing, of the Mormons, because you throw your hands up in the air, as a Y, the letter Y, and you say is there no one here to help a widow’s son.  And that’s the final plea for mercy, and he must grant you it.

Jackie: What about just a person that’s in court, and shouldn’t be there, but is?  That would be a final plea.  But is there anything that can be done or said, that would let the judge know?

Alan: It all goes through the Sheriff, beforehand.  That’s traditional, in every country.  In every single country, you have a word with the Sheriff, and you tell him, and he’ll say, I’ll see what I can do.  That’s why you’ll see some cases drag on, petty little cases.  And other ones, the same type of thing is dismissed right away.  That’s been going on for hundreds of years.  And it’s no different today.  And so many of the public who are....

Jackie: And the Judge has to give you leniency?

Alan: Yeah, once you’re a brother, and you let them know you’re a brother, and you’re in bad straits, etc, and this will upset your reputation, or whatever, or your job.  They must grant you mercy, and it will be dismissed.  And men, of course...  see, the only thing that you can do wrong as a Mason, is to break a Masonic rule against your fellow brother Masons.  What you do to the public is almost irrelevant.  And you’re allowed to have intercourse with anybody’s wife, as long as it’s not a Freemason’s.  That’s in their rules.

Jackie: Even the judge’s wife?

Alan: No, not with a fellow mason’s.

Jackie: Oh, that would be wrong.  Oh, yeah.

Alan: Then you wouldn’t be tried in a court for it, you’d be tried on the square, inside the Masonic lodge.  So, they have their own little courts for their own rules and laws.

Jackie: How does one get a hold of the Clerk?

Alan: Oh, you just go in and see them.  You just ask to see them.  And they’ll give you little clues.

Jackie: What about a woman?  I mean, does a woman count too?

Alan: Well, if she’s in the Eastern Star, although they’re all side degrees, that counts as well.  Especially if they’re at the heads of different charitable organizations, which they’re encouraged to do.  So, sure.  It counts for them, as well.  And that’s why the public are so confused when they see the same types of cases, same supposed charges, and five of them are dismissed as soon as the person’s name is read out and the charge, and other ones with the same charge go through two or three hours, and then get a fine or imprisonment.  It’s because ones are Masons and others are not.  That’s traditional.  The court is a Masonic Lodge.  It’s set out that way.  And the bar is your bar between the peasantry and the man who sits as god.  He presides over the court.  He wears the Saturn, the black Saturn gown.  He is a god, you know.  So that’s how it is.  Now, getting back to Bacon though, I meant to mention too, that Bacon, when you break it down, is also B A Con.  You know, Con is a priest, a Cohen.  And so you have all that in the name.

Jackie: Well, I thought of ham, because you’ve mentioned the name Ham before.  And when you mentioned, brought up Francis Bacon, the first thing I thought of was ham.

Alan: Oh, as ham and bacon.  (Chuckle)  But that’s how they hide their names and so on.  And William Shakespeare, the High Masons all claim, and Francis Bacon were one and the same person.  And of course, Bacon did help to write the King James Version.  King James was a High Mason himself.

Jackie: And a pervert.  A big-time pervert.

Alan: Yeah.  He chased the page boys all over the place.  That was his hobby.

Jackie: Well, the stuff I’ve read about him, it was even worse than that.

Alan: Oh, it was worse, all right.

Jackie: He rolled in the blood of dead animals, and had sex with cadavers.

Alan: Well, I don’t know if it was that bad, but he certainly chased the boys, and that’s the official Scottish history records.  They called him Shamey Jamie.

Jackie: Well, you know I think maybe I saw a movie one time, and I think it was one of those old movies that they show sometimes.  It seems it was in black and white.  And if I’m not mistaken, they showed him as a real mincing, feminine male.

Alan: He also had a bad limp too.  And he was kind of deformed.  But, yeah, he was definitely homosexual.  There was nothing hidden about that.  He was married, but that was for offspring only, and that is not unusual.

Jackie: And that is the accepted and treasured and idolized and worshiped version of the Bible by many people.

Alan: Well, that’s the one that Jesus used.

Jackie: Oh, okay.  It seems to me, and I don’t think that people think about it.  Or maybe they don’t.  Maybe they do, but I don’t think they do.  That they worship that book, a book, more than Creator.

Alan: That’s why it’s called The Holy Bible.  It is a book, but they’ve made it a sacred object.

Jackie: Well, Bible means book, doesn’t it?

Alan: Yeah, but holy, holy.  I mean holy means it’s sacred.  Now it’s been deified as the book being sacred.  So you’re not supposed to worship any image.  And of course, how did they get the print onto those pages?  It’s called engraving.  It’s a graven image.  So, I mean, it’s such a joke, you see.

Jackie: Well, you know what.  It might seem like a joke to you.  I find it, Alan, I mean, it’s a joke on us.  And I don’t think it’s a joke to you.  I think it’s much more serious than that.  Because, I find it so, I don’t know, just so deep, sad, that it’s so easy to mold people’s minds.

Alan: It always has been, and if they leave us unchanged, unmodified, it always will be.  Like Gorbachev, when he said, he said that the world has always been ruled by religion to keep the people obeying the governments.  And he said We, and he’s an atheist, in the same book he admitted that....

Jackie: Gorbachev?

Alan: Yeah, Mikhail Gorbachev.  Towards a New Civilization was his book.  And in it, he says, we are now creating the new world religion, which will be based on Earth Worship.  So, here’s a guy who tells you he’s an atheist, who’s in the business now of helping to create a world religion, to keep the public in check. So they understand this.

Jackie: He has offices in the Presidio in California.

Alan: Yes.  And he had that, if you check into the official license to operate, Mikhail Gorbachev was granted the license in the US, before he left Russia, and while he was still President of the Soviet Union.  So, there you go, everything is a farce, as it’s presented to the public.  So, here he is, who was the head of the KGB, and the President of the Soviet Union, who was granted by the US government a license to reside in the US and operate this global governance little depot.  And they granted it to him while he was still the President of Russia.

Jackie: And he came over here, and people cheered him.

Alan: Well, actually, it was the greatest PR move ever done.  Maggie Thatcher was the first one to bring him over to Britain, Gorbachev and his wife.  And the press, years later, the press admitted that they had all agreed, your free press now, that’s there to inform you, all agreed not to ask any pertinent questions concerning Communism or the true state of the Soviets, but only to ask about his wife’s lipstick, her hairdo, what kind of hair salons they had in Russia, and where Mikhail Gorbachev had his nice light flashy looking suit, you know.  So that was a PR stunt.  And then, when they brought him over to the US, they did, after the same kind of publicity stunt, because the press in the US did exactly the same, they kept to their lines, they didn’t ask any nasty questions.  And they did a poll survey, and they found that over 75% of the people in Britain and the US wouldn’t mind if Gorbachev was their president one day.

Jackie: Oh my God.

Alan: That’s in the books.

Jackie: You know what, we’re almost out of our hour.  And we’re, of course, out of our week, here.  One of the things that we’ve discussed, and I would like you to take a few minutes to talk about it.  On Sweet Liberty we don’t talk about the, oh, what Senator did this, and what, all of the little, you know, everyday things, because, basically, I mean, you could literally be broadcasting eight hours a day.

Alan: Or more, if you could stay awake.

Jackie: If you could stay awake.  And, will you comment on that, Alan.

Alan: Yeah, I mean, the nitty-gritty of who says what today and so on, I tend to ignore, because I’ve got an overview of the whole agenda, and that’s all anyone really needs.  I don’t need to have the confirmation of the blow-by-blow daily stuff that the mainstream gives you, or certain shortwave broadcasters give you, because I tend to avoid the mainstream media, which is there simply to put you into a state of panic and subservience.  And when the shortwave picks up on the same daily themes of what they’re doing to you today, and going to do to you tomorrow, it becomes overwhelming, which is it’s object.  It’s meant to render you incapacitated basically through fear.

Jackie: And it does.

Alan: And it does.  Yeah, I mean, some people have phoned me up and they’re immobilized.  And I’ve told some of them to slow down.  One I told to shut up.  I had to, because he was almost screaming with neurosis.  And I said, who do you listen to?  He told me who he listened to, on the shortwave.  And I said, you know, this is what psychological warfare is intended to do.  It’s meant to give you a nervous breakdown, so as you cannot function.  And I said, look, has anything nasty really happened to you yet?  He said, no.  I said, well, what’s your problem?  So, that is how panic and fear and terror, can incapacitate someone, if you get hooked on some of these superstars.

Jackie: Well, and this is why I wanted to bring it up, because we don’t do that type of broadcasting.  And I wanted our listeners to understand, hopefully, the value of the information that they’re getting.  It is more of an overview.  It isn’t all the nitty-gritty, but see, I can attest to what you’re saying, because back in 1992, somebody gave me a copy of the Machelvani Intelligence Advisor.  I think it was about 12 pages, Alan.  I was in my office.  I owned my business at the time, and I was working late.  And so, I opened it up and read it, and I sat there paralyzed.  And then I subscribed to it, got my first one, and went out and sat on the deck at home and read it, and I couldn’t do anything for the rest of the day, because I thought, ‘Oh my God.  What the heck do we think we’re doing?  It’s hopeless.  It’s gone too far.’  And folks, that’s what I wanted to bring up before the end of this broadcast, just so you know, why we don’t, because it’s all symptoms of the whole bigger picture.  We’ll be back with you, Monday.  And I hope you have a lovely next four days.  And I hope you will join us on Monday next.

Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  Today is Tuesday and it is the 4th of October in the year 2005.  ...And tonight, we have a guest.  Alan Watt is with us.  I called Alan today.  I was thinking that probably tomorrow night would be our last, and we could not end this broadcast without having Alan Watt back one time, at least one time with us, because regardless of the some times that he and I had our differences.  We don’t always agree on everything.  None of us ever do.  But there can be nothing that could diminish the information and the time and the love that Alan has given.  And because it is love.  It is done out of love.  His mission in his heart is to enlighten and awaken as many people as possible.  In every single broadcast we’ve done, Alan has done it on his dime from Canada.  And truly, he’s brought us out of the Dark Ages.  He’s brought us out of the forest, so that we get a chance to see the trees a little bit.  So, I’ve invited Alan to be here with us tonight.  And Alan, thanks for being here.

Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.  ...And I do have three books for sale, going through the history, including some of the ancient, ancient history of this system.  And I go through it in volumes 1, 2, and 3.  I tie it in with the money system, present and past, going back thousands of years.  And the agenda is all there basically.  And also, if anyone wants one or all of these books [see ordering information on transcript].

Jackie: ...Alan, so we have little time left to share whatever it is that you would like to share with our listeners.  I’ve got three days next week.  I have some thoughts in mind, that I would like to do.  But, this is, tonight is yours.

Alan: Well, I think really, for those that understand that there’s nothing new in this system, they’re simply upgrading their system, that’s what we live in.  It’s their system. It’s not ours.  So there’s no real reason to suddenly panic.  Those things which we’re afraid of are generally change.  And what we don’t realize, is, as I say, they’re changing from that to which we’re familiar, which we think is our way of living.  But really, even that lifestyle was given to us as well.  Our routines were given to us.  Our training at school for certain jobs and so on.  Even marriage, pensions, retirement, everything.  That was all part of their old system, and we’re post-industrial now, so they’re upgrading it to the next step.  When you realize this has been going on for thousands of years, step by step, including the wars and the reasons for the wars, and the money men behind it always, you know, then you realize nothing has really changed.  The techniques they’re using are the same.  They have incredible sciences at work, because they never allow the general public to have up-to-date knowledge of what they really have at any time, you know.  And they’re so far ahead of what you’d even imagine as science fiction, that’s how they maintain their power.  I have to laugh in a sense, when I watch the troops going into different countries, and sure enough, you’ll always see a new style of rifle, or the latest model this, or whatever, or the latest stealth bomber.  And yet, all this stuff is obsolete, and it was obsolete before the second World War.

Jackie: Like you were saying, earlier today, when we talked, they’re carrying the guns and heavy, heavy bullets, and using gunpowder that’s been around forever.

Alan: Yeah.  And so really, this is to make us believe, you see, that this is the latest, and that’s what they have, but all of that stuff is obsolete.  It’s us that must be kept in the dark, you see.  It’s one reality for the general population, another one for the CIA, and another one for the boys above them.  There are always three realities on the go at the same time.  It’s almost like three computer programs running independently, all fed the same data, but the second level is fed more and the third level is fed even more.  So, that’s how our reality is.  And we do know, we all know what’s coming down.  The changes are not hidden.

Jackie: We just don’t know how they’re going to pull it off, Alan.  For example, you know, 9/11.  And then, you know, they have geared us to expect another "terrorist attack" and then they, it’s a "natural disaster".  And last, this past week, the Discovery Channel has been evidently playing, and they played it more than once, this is a three hour long thing called ‘Super-Volcano’.  And it’s all about Yellowstone, and how it’s about ready to blow.  I’ve been reading articles about this for quite a while, you know, from the internet.  But they’ve already said that if this happens, it will disrupt the economy of the entire world.  So, you know, Katrina, first 9/11, then Katrina and Rita, and now they’re, now, see, they’re evidently, this is a big thing to prepare people.  And then, maybe they’ll surprise everybody and have a terrorist attack, again.  See.  Because, that’s basically what people, and isn’t it telling that they can get us into that mode, where we’re actually expecting.

Alan: Well, that’s what it’s about.

Jackie: Because they said it, yeah, it’s going to happen.  We don’t know.

Alan: We’re being trained.

Jackie: We don’t know when or where, but we do know it is going to.  It’s only a matter of time, and it’s going to be much worse than 9/11.

Alan: That’s right.  And so, see, they’re the shepherds, and again, we’re the sheep.  And for the last century or so, we’ve all been led into the same pasture everyday and we graze, and then they drive us back.  But now we’re getting driven into another pasture, you see.  So, we’re being trained to go into the next pasture.

Jackie: And we say the prayers.  The Lord is my Shepherd, he leadeth me into green pastures, he restoreth, my cup runneth over, your rod and your staff comforts me.  And, you know what, Alan, I was thinking of this a couple of days ago.  What in the world is the rod?  The staff, that you said is for the sheep, because they’re so stupid, that if they get into a corner, they don’t have sense enough to back out.  So, they use the crook there to pull them out.  What is the rod for?  Is it to whack them with?

Alan: That’s right.  That’s what law is based on.  If you ask any, anyone who’s into the law system, the legal system, and government too, all laws are put out there with intimidation.  That’s how people obey.  It’s mainly through intimidation.  And for the few who won’t be intimidated, they will actually use force.

Jackie: Yeah, so we say a prayer, and say thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Alan: Well, that’s for the abused victim, who loves their abuser.

Jackie: Yes.  And I’m glad.  Thank you for really bringing that into my mind, because we do have new listeners.  And sometimes it’s something, certain things bear repeating.  This is not to in any way invalidate or denigrate Jesus.  But what they gave us, that he is the Shepherd.  They say that he, excuse me, I’m having trouble spitting this out, obviously.  He is quoted as talking about his lost sheep of Israel, and all that stuff, and I remember a long time ago, you said, I don’t think he ever said that.  Because the sheep is the stupidest animal around. And he wouldn’t have called people sheep.

Alan: Yeah, and it’s only, I mean, sheep are domesticated animals.  They’re not free animals, they’re domesticated.  They’re specially bred to be domesticated.

Jackie: And sheered.

Alan: And that’s their function, is to supply their master with wool and meat.  That’s it.  There’s no other purpose for them.

Jackie: And then taking it back further, and of course, this is all stuff that you’ve already shared with us, but these are things that we would of, I would have never thought about.  Not even knowing it, or not noticing it, the pictures of the ancient...

Alan: Pharaohs.

Jackie: The pharaohs with the staff in their hand, the crook.

Alan: Yeah, the crossed arms with, it looks like a little candy cane crook, because it’s a symbolic crook.  It’s not the long one.  But that’s what it represents.  You know the kind you hang on Christmas trees?

Jackie: Oh, yes.  Oh, I’ve done that a lot.

Alan:  That sort of.  So, he holds the short one in one hand, and his arms are crossed, because he’s an illumined man, and the crossed arms mean the illumined man.  And he is the sun, in fact.  And in the other one, he has the club, basically.  And sure, that’s the whole idea.  You intimidate with threat of force, and if that doesn’t work, you actually use force.  And nothing has changed in the system, since that time.

Jackie: So, we see that the religions have so indoctrinated us, that we actually thank our keepers for the abuse that we get, in a sense.  We’re not praying to them, of course, but, I remember, Alan, you were talking about the word, repent.  Am I taking us on a track that you wanted to say something else?

Alan: No, carry on.  I’ve got a train just passing by, so it’s hard to hear.

Jackie: Well, I remember you talking at one time about the word re-pent, and pent up, and how they used to pen them, and would you share that with our listeners, who didn’t hear that explanation.

Alan: Could you speak up again?

Jackie: Yeah, when you were, this was a long time ago, when you were talking about the word, repent.  Is the train gone?

Alan: It’s just gone now, okay.  The word was what?

Jackie: The word was repent.  And about pent up and how they pent them up.  Would you share that with our listeners that didn’t hear?

Alan: Well, the ancients loved hunting, and the modern ones still do.  A lot of these big boys that we see behind the scenes, that appear, they love to go off to different countries and hunt.  And in ancient times, even in Greek times, they’d often go along the coastline in boats, and they would get little peninsulas for instance, and they’d come in, like a five-pointed star, and work their way inwards, and they used nets to catch the people, and net them, basically.  And those people became slaves.  But that was a form of sport.  And, of course, the pent is from the 5, number 5, the pent angle.  And that’s where it really comes from, you know.  So, when we’re repenting, we’re actually in a sense acquiescing to become slaves once more, you know.  Willing slaves.  But it’s nothing new.  What amazed me, even looking at Sumer, and some of the major cities in Sumer were obviously bureaucratic, because they had no fields around them, so all the foodstuffs and so on came into them, but the frescoes on the walls were fascinating, because they showed you these young people, obviously very healthy and happy, and obviously nobility too, with hawks.  You know they have the hawks on the wrist?  And then you’d also see them on horseback, going after different animals and deer and so on.

Jackie: Is a hawk the same thing as a falcon?

Alan: Yeah, it’s a type of hawk for sport.  And they had falconers even in the Middle Ages.  The Normans brought that into England with them.  And up until the 1800s, 1900s, that was still a popular sport with the nobility.  So, you find the same MOs all down through history with the nobility that was there 5,000 BC, and of course, the Egyptian nobility were exactly the same.  And if you look into the merchant banker class who lived in the Aegean Islands, and the historians give them the name, the Minoans, they also had exactly the same frescoes painted on their walls, with the hunting scenes and the sports and the falcons, and so on.  So, then we see it, as I say, coming into Europe in the Middle Ages, with this Norman class, who took over, and still basically run the world yet, you know.  They were a knighted nobility.  And if you notice, even all your top United States famous people, like Kissinger and so on, Schwartzkopf, in fact, even the mayor of New York, after 9/11, they all went over to the Queen, and the Queen knighted them all.  So, this is very important to them to be knighted, in England, by the Queen.  Because, we’re dealing here with a religion that predates Christianity and most other religions, and it goes back to at least, at least 5000BC, that we’ve dug up so far, and no doubt, there’s much, much more of it to go on beyond that.

So, if we go into the histories of other countries, like India, they go back into millions of years.  And they claim that this type of thing has been going on for millions of years.  And I wouldn’t be surprised in the least, because the techniques of controlling the minds of whole countries are so perfect, and they always have been so perfect, that this was not a new science that they were picking up as they went along.  They knew it from at least Sumer onwards, how to take over countries, how to introduce this thing called money, how to get people to marry young, to be a working class, who would then produce their goods, because these bankers were also the merchant class, and they owned the ships and the trading routes.  So, they owned the whole system.  It was a materialistic system, based on money.  And once you have money, you can get a standing army.  Without money, you can’t keep a standing army together.  Once you have it, you send it off into the rural areas, and you conquer the peoples.  And that is our history of the world.  And right now, in fact, the US is finishing off the last part, the last few countries, who haven’t joined the World Bank and this system they call democracy, which has various definitions, if you look at it, you know.  Actually, the definition of democracy is pretty well the same as the definition of Communism.  By the Royal Institute of International Affairs’ own words, going back to the 1920s, and even earlier, when Cecil Rhodes was on the go, and then Milner, Lord Milner took over from Cecil Rhodes to create a world empire.  He defined democracy for the Royal Institute of International Affairs.  The CFR is the American branch of it, of course.  And he said the definition of democracy is a world where the individual is subject to the majority.  In other words, individual free will is a negative thing, and it’s unhealthy to the whole.

Jackie: But they refer to themselves as the majority, don’t they?

Alan: Well, they themselves don’t even classify themselves within that.  They see themselves as a separate race almost, you know.  We are just the people.

Jackie: Superhuman race.

Alan: Yes.

Jackie: We have to take a break here.  And I’m going to request, I talked to one of our listeners today, and she said that the beginning of the broadcast last night was very clear, and then in her area, it just totally disintegrated, so she couldn’t hear a word.  And I would just request a couple of calls giving us a reception report, if you would.  Folks, we’ll be back, right after this.

(Commercial Break)

Jackie: ...Okay, Alan.  I missed our spiritual message this evening.  And I had it laying right in front of me here.  And I would like to do that before we continue.  This is from Matthew 5, beginning at verse 14, Jesus said, "Ye are the light of the world.  A city that’s set on a hill cannot be hid, and neither do men light a candle and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick, and it gives light unto all that are in the house.  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your father, which is in Heaven."  Thanks, Alan.

Alan: I’d like to add to that little definition of democracy that Milner put out for this group actually that’s running the world.  When they defined it, they said, every individual, because they’ll have certain rights, will also have a duty to serve the state.  To serve the state.  And that’s very, very important, because it puts the state, this entity, in another category, apart from the people.  And therefore the people do not create the state.  The state basically becomes your rulers.  And you serve them.  And that’s the definition that the current CFR branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs uses today.  And it’s identical to the Communist definition.

Jackie: So, when they say the State, it takes people’s minds off people.

Alan: It does.

Jackie: The state is an institution of some type, and forgetting that there’s a hidden hand that controls those who are in the State, doing the dirty work.

Caller: Okay, Hello.

Jackie: Hello?

Caller: Okay, I can hear you a little bit.  Yeah, I was going to say, you sound loud and clear, tonight.  Very, very clear.

Jackie: Thank you, Storm.  How about last night?

Caller: You know, a matter of fact, I just came in about ten minutes ago.  Now, as far as last night, I didn’t get last night, because I was out.

Jackie: Okay, okay, thanks, Storm.

Caller: I will tell you this, something strange, is that, I’ll say this quickly.  Early this morning, I was listening to Radio Netherlands.  And at the very beginning of the broadcast, when they were talking about Turkey from the Netherlands, they came in very crystal clear for the first minute, and then approximately about 7:02 in the morning, Eastern time, that must be 11:02 UTC, okay, there was like a big fade in of distortion and interference, not jamming, but like an interference, almost like you would think it was the atmosphere.  And all the sudden, about a half hour later around 11:30 or 11:27 UTC, that would be 7:27, UTC.

Jackie: Alright, hurry up, hurry up, Storm.

Caller: They started coming in again.  And it’s the same type of similar thing that occasionally I hear on your show.  But not tonight, and not that much last week.

Jackie: Okay.  Thank you, Storm.  Thank you.

Caller: I’m not sure whether that was the government or what.  Maybe they want to keep out something with Turkey.  I don’t know what that was about but it did seem suspicious.

Jackie: Thanks, Storm.  Okay, bye-bye.

Caller: Okay.

Jackie: Alright, thank you, Storm.  I was curious about last night, Alan.

Alan: It’s clear up here, too.

Jackie: Oh, that’s good, that’s real good.  I’m glad to hear that.

Alan: But they’re using, of course, their technology, their jamming technologies and so on, because once they have the next big panic, FEMA will be using that, across the country.  We saw it used when they went into Yugoslavia, and Bosnia.  They flew aircraft.  It was on the television.  They flew special aircraft across the country that jammed every radio station, and television station, and they could also, from the aircraft, play their own propaganda programs directly into everyone’s television and radio.

Jackie: In other words, over-ride and interfere and intrude.  Well, I understand that during Vietnam, the technology existed also, because my friend Mel worked in communications.  And he said, they could clear a path.  They could wipe out communications in any direction they wanted, so that they could send their own signal.  That was Vietnam.

Alan: And so, especially, it’s so easy to interfere with shortwave, because shortwave depends on the ionosphere, which in part bounces signals off the ionosphere, so they can actually really play havoc with shortwave.

(Phone Rings)

Jackie: Hi, you’re on the air.  Hello?  You’re on the air.  Gosh.  Okay, nobody there.  Alright, folks, we’ll forgo the phone calls, because there’s just something.  We’ll just forgo the phone calls and thank you.  I was just curious.  Maybe, I can talk to somebody who was listening last night, somebody else, somebody not in Indiana, and maybe let me know.  I was just curious.  And I did not mean to interrupt this broadcast so many times.  Today, when we were talking, Alan, as I mentioned to you, my thoughts are so much and so often on people, because on this broadcast we’ve talked about how important it is, if you can, get the heck out of the doggone cities.  Etc.  And, I do know that there are people, now, who are in cities, who really want to leave cities, and they don’t have the means to do it.  And, of course, the economy is getting worse by the hour, not by the day.  And so, therefore, my heart goes out to them, and mostly that they aren’t living in fear, and they aren’t living in some type of a box, if you would, feeling "doomed" or "hopeless" because they can’t get out of the city.  Because, hell, rural cleansing is going on right now, under our noses.  I don’t know how much time we have left, in the country.  I wondered about rural cleansing, and how are they going to move people out of the country.  Well, our energy costs are just going up, just horrendously.  I had to go on budget for my heating gas bill, last year.  And over the course of the year, it averaged out to $191.  Now, you’ve got a good five or six months there, where that bill is around $40.  (Phone rings)  And, Hello, thank you, you’re on the air.

Caller: Yeah, hello.  Yeah, this is something that I wanted to ask Alan Watt, and then I was going to hang up.

Jackie: Okay, make it very short, Storm.

Caller: Okay, yes.  You asked about how people are going to like leave the country, or whatever.  I understand there’s like some kind of detention centers around the country.  What I was thinking is that, if they wanted to get people in these detention centers to pull off this global New World order...

Jackie: They’re doing it.

Caller: ...what they could do is have a nuclear blast where the radiation comes from the air.

Jackie: Storm, excuse me.  I’m sorry, Alan.  He wants to ask a question, but he just talks about what he thinks.  Actually, they’re doing it right now.  All of those "evacuees," they’re still living in those detention centers.

Alan: And they’ve done programs here in Canada.  They’ve shown on television, a lot of, now, it could be to train us all, of course, which everything generally is.  But they’ve interviewed lots of them who say they’ll never go back there.  And of course, that was one of the objectives, was taking them out.  We also have no idea how many have been removed out of there, and I certainly do not believe the figures they tell us for the death rate.  I think it was far higher.

Jackie: Oh, of course.

Alan: And they’re really playing it down.

Jackie: Alan, how would they even know?

Alan: Oh, they would know.  Oh, they’d know.  In a place like that, there were so many people, especially in the poor areas, who were on welfare. They have records for everything, not just locally; they have back-up systems, probably all the way to the Feds.  They know everyone, their numbers and so on, and who claims, who doesn’t, and who’s not claiming now.  And believe you me, when FEMA moves people out, they don’t just ask your first name.  They get everything from you.  So, they know how many they’ve moved out and how many have died.

Jackie: One of our listeners called me last night, and had run into a gal from New Orleans, and said that her home was totally safe.  There was a tiny bit, evidently, of wind damage, maybe some shingles or something.  And she was moved out of her house at gunpoint.  And she doesn’t know when she’s going to be able to go back.  They evidently claimed that they were going to let people start coming back, and then of course, Rita came along.  Now, she still can’t go back.  She’s staying with friends in Pennsylvania.

Alan: Well, even Bush himself in one of his first speeches said, it will be a minimum of three years before it’s habitable again.  And of course, I’m sure, just like the fire of London, Christopher Wren had the plans for the new, international London drawn up prior to 1666.  They love three sixes there.  And, luckily enough, along came the fire, and they could put his plans into motion.  So I’m sure they had the same plans drawn up for the new city of New Orleans, a much smaller city, because the United Nations has said most of it will remain as wetlands, and that’s been their spiel for the last few years.  Before it all happened, a good part of that city would be called wetlands.  The new city, I’m sure, will be a small one for the refinery guys, for the new refineries, which the taxpayers will build for Halliburton.

Jackie: And for the elite, only.

Alan: Yeah, and a few, you know, gambling casinos and things like that.

Jackie: Yeah, but I mean, for anybody who’s living there, I believe at least at this point, that’s their plan.  And there have been articles.  There was a Wall Street Journal article, I think it was, Old Line Families Plan the Rebuilding of New Orleans.  And they’ve said, it’s not going to be black and there’s not going to be those suppressed people, either it’s going to be white, or we’re out of here.  And they are already laying out their plans.  Donald Trump had....

Alan: Oh, I’m sure all this was, as I say, designed before that hurricane hit.

Jackie: Well, think about it.  This humongous building that Donald Trump is supposed to be building, that couldn’t have happened.  They couldn’t probably engineer and design a building like that in four weeks.

Alan: No, even the surveyors couldn’t go over it in that time.

Jackie: Exactly.  And then the mayor there, what the heck’s his name.  He’s saying that real estate is real hot right now, in New Orleans. [Call] You’re on the air.

Caller: Yeah, but what about if the people have guns?

Jackie: I’m sorry about that.

Alan: But that’s the whole thing there.

Jackie: Well, they’ve taken the guns away from the people anyway.

Alan: They have been doing that down there.  They showed that on the television here.

Jackie: Yes, they did.

Alan: They were going door to door.  But that’s standard.

Jackie: Did you know that there was a judge that put a hiatus or a stop, well at least ordered a stop on the confiscation of guns there?  I’ve only got one article on it.  It was a news article.  And I don’t know if they listened to that judge or not.  It’s been, there’s not been a lot of news coming out of New Orleans lately.

Alan: No.  Once FEMA took over, they did admit that all subsequent news coming out of there would be controlled by FEMA.  So, it’s almost impossible to get any truth out at all, at least the whole truth.  So, that’s the whole thing, with FEMA, it is all about containment and control.  That’s what it was set up to do.  So, this is the first big exercise in containing and removing on mass, Americans.  But it won’t be the last one.  It’s interesting too, that the Hurricane came in, and there’s a huge bridge going across the river there.  The Pontchartrain, which is the French for the Bridge of Katherine, you know.  And then, when you look where the hurricane came into Texas, you had, just south of Beaumont, you had SaRita, and I thought yeah, I guess we can always tell by the names they give them.

Jackie: Oh.  Katherine, Katrina, and Rita.  Please repeat that, Alan, right from the beginning.

Alan: The first hurricane, Katherine.

Jackie: Right, Katrina.

Alan: Or they called it Katerina, same thing.  And it came in, and where it passed over was Pontchartrain, which in French means the Bridge of Katherine.  They love bridges too, of course.  But that’s the Bridge of Katherine.  And then, Rita came in just north of SaRita.

Jackie: Sarita?

Alan: SaRita, yeah.  Just south of Beaumont, Texas.  So, you knew it was going to hit Texas.  So, the next big one I think is to be called Stanley, and we’ll have to scour the map to see what state that is in, because I’m sure that’s how they’re doing it.  Ha, ha, ha.  They love to put it right in our faces.

Jackie: Oh, they do, don’t they?

Alan: I’ll give you a good example.  Canada, because Canada is a member of the commonwealth, the British Commonwealth, it still has this strange system of having a Parliament, and a Governor General appointed by the Queen.  And they just appointed a new Governor General, and they gave her a Coat of Arms.  The Coat of Arms, by the way, goes all the way back to Charlemagne, it was copied after that in fact.  They swore her in, she’s the 27th Governor General, they swore her in on the 27th of September.  The number of days, right through the year, to the 27th of September was 270, and when they were swearing her in, the ceremony took 11 minutes, and they showed the clock outside the Parliament building, exactly at 11 minutes past 11.  Well, 27, 2 and 7 is 9.  And then you have the 11 after it.  It’s 911.  They just keep showing this in our face all the time, you know.  You couldn’t make this stuff up, you know.  But they made a new Coat of Arms for her, and the lineage on the Coat of Arms depicts the line of Charlemagne.

Jackie: What is Charlemagne?

Alan: It’s the dynasty that supposedly came up through and eventually were appointed by the Catholic Church to force Christianity on the rest of Europe.  So, he was the first officially Catholic appointed military leader and king.  And, of course, the Knights Templars are heavily involved with Charlemagne and all this kind of stuff.  But, yeah, he forced Christianity on behalf of Rome on the countries of Germany and France and a few other ones, at the point of the sword.  And in behind him, came the money boys.  In fact, Charlemagne, who was officially crowned by the Pope as the first Vatican sponsored king, Charlemagne set up his first bank, in what later was called Switzerland.  And it’s called the Bank of Zion.  And the River next to it is still called the River Sion. So the Priory de Sion, which is one of the high Templar groups, and still based in France, connected with Switzerland, and they move money around the world, that’s their job, and other stuff, goes back to Charlemagne.  But it was interesting to see them making a coat of arms with the two bears and the five-pointed starfish of Charlemagne for this new Governor General.  You know, plus all the mystic numbers they add into it.  They do this all the time.  There’s a whole language involved, every day, and the people don’t understand it, don’t even realize it’s going on.  But that’s how open they are.

Jackie: What do you know about this new Pope?

Alan: They haven’t said too much about him.  He was in the German Army during World War Two.  There’s different versions of what he did in the German army.  What you’ll find with most modern Popes for sure, is that they have to have the right lineage to get in there.  That’s the bottom line.

Jackie: I’ve received quite a few emails on this Pope, and I’ve put them in a file to read, and haven’t read them.  But if I’m not mistaken, I read that he was a Jew and became a Catholic.

Alan: It’s possible.  It’s very possible.  I think it was in the 8th century, the first Khazar was appointed, a Jew, was Leo the Red.

Jackie: Oh, yeah, the Khazar.

Alan: And even Ron Calli in the 1950s, Pope Ron Calli, he was Jewish.  I mean, the Catholic Church is open to anybody that goes through the rituals, you know.  And, to be honest, you see, all the religions were created by the same group, long ago.  I don’t care if it’s Moslem or Christianity or Judaism, that’s your trinity all connected, you see.  They all have a common base somewhere, a common connections, but they’ve all been used for the same purpose, which is to exploit the people, make them subservient, and bring in a materialistic system based on money and conquering other countries with armies, up to the present phase, where they’ll eventually blend them all in, back into an updated version, so the three will become one.  That’s the real mystic meaning of the Trinity, in High Freemasonry.

Jackie: You mean the three religions will become one.  Oh, it is, isn’t it becoming that.

Alan: And so that’s the key of making things change, by using the laws of nature, you must create opposites.  And so, opposing forces fight each other to create the Third Way, which is the outcome or the synthesis.  And without at least one opposing force, no change will happen.  So, if you have three opposing forces, all apparently fighting each other, but the boys at the top are all connected, it’s the herd once again who are being trained into a new way of living.  And that’s your trinity, you know.  If you want to move sheep, you use two sheepdogs, especially.  One dog, running at the pack, will make them move one way.  However, if you don’t want them to go in exactly that direction, you have another dog, just across the way, but when they both move diagonally towards those sheep, the sheep go in a straight line to where you want them to go.  Which is the sheep pen.  So, once again, you have a trinity formation.

Jackie: Repent.

Alan: Repent, yeah.  So, every group who’s fought each other, down through the centuries, has been used for completely different outcomes than the one they envisage at the time.

Jackie: Yes, that they envisioned.

Alan: So, we’re dealing here with a very complex chess game, where the people don’t even know that they’re on the chessboard.  And they can’t see the hands that are moving them.  But it really is a chess game, a very complex one.

Jackie: Okay, you know what.  You were telling me today, and I wasn’t on the internet at all today.  But you were telling me that they have been holding meetings in Colorado, or excuse me, Texas, and it’s a UN, and it has to do with water and septic systems.

Alan: They’re going...

Jackie: Alan, we just got our one-minute warning.  Alright.  Would you like to come back tomorrow night?

Alan: Sure, yeah.

Jackie: Well, you know, okay.  We’ll do that.  I’ve written this down.  I would like to pick that up, tomorrow night, and folks, we will be back with you tomorrow.  Thank you for being here.  And Alan, thank you for being here.

Alan: It’s a pleasure.

Jackie: And ladies and gentlemen, my wish for you is peace and love, and I don’t mean that in any way to be trite.  I mean it with all of my heart.  We’ll see you tomorrow night.  Good night.  Good night, Alan.

Alan: Good Night.

Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.  Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  Sorry, once again, for that delay.  I kept dialing in and I wasn’t getting a ring.  Nothing was happening. It’s just kind of ridiculous.  Thank you for being with us tonight.  This is Wednesday, and it would be the 5th, yes the 5th of October in the year 2005.  And for those of you who haven’t been tuned in, I will just announce once again that as of next Wednesday, this broadcast will be going off the air.  And it’s a necessity, folks, because we have not been able to bring the airtime bill down, and it keeps ever growing, and ultimately, as I’ve mentioned, this debt is mine.  And I am not in a financial position, actually, even to pay what this is.  So, I just cannot let it go on any longer.  And I want to thank each and every one of you who have supported this broadcast.  And as I’ve said, I know that you’ve done as much as you can do.  And tonight, our guest, once again is Alan Watt.  And Alan, thanks for being here tonight.

Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie: Our spiritual message, I want to share this.  We were talking last night, you were talking last night about the religions, and the religions of the world.  And I had talked about this somewhat on Monday night, although I have heard from several people who said that after I made the announcement that I was going off the air, they weren’t able to pick it up for whatever reason.  Last night the reports were that the reception, shortwave reception was great.  But this is about religion, in a sense, it’s about faith.  "Faith is a state of openness or trust.  To have faith is like when you trust yourself to the water.  You don’t grab hold of the water, because if you do, you’ll become stiff, you’ll become tight, and you’ll sink.  You have to relax.  And the attitude of faith is the very opposite of clinging and holding on.  In other words, a person who is fanatic in matters of religion and clings to certain ideas about the nature of God and the universe becomes a person who has no faith at all.  Instead, they’re holding tight.  But the attitude of faith is to let go, and become open to truth, whatever it might turn out to be."  That was written by Alan Watts.  W-A-T-T-S.  It’s titled the essential Alan Watts on faith.  And our guest tonight is Alan Watt, not to be confused with the author of this little statement.  Lots of Watts around, aren’t there, Alan?

Alan: There are a few, yeah.

Jackie: There are a few.  I guess that’s quite a common Scottish name, is it?

Alan:  It’s not too common, not too common.

Jackie: Okay, well.  That is irrelevant.  And last night, we were having a conversation, and I said, darn it, I wish we were having this conversation on the air.  And you made a few notes of what you had been talking about, and I would like it if, I don’t know where you’ll begin with that, because our conversations do have a tendency to flow from one point to another.  And then we get into something that is so relevant, and that is what happened last night, in the course of the conversation.  Would you like to get started?

Alan: What exactly were we talking about?

Jackie: You said you were going to make notes, Alan.

Alan: I’ve got a whole pile of papers here.

Jackie: Okay, well, we were talking about people who, okay, where this started actually, we were talking about archeology.  And I said, you know, that I had seen some, because we don’t know when we get these reports that archaeologists have discovered this, and archaeologists have discovered that.  We don’t even know if that’s true, because we find out that everything that we’ve been told for the most part is a lie.  And I remembered somebody emailing me, and they were skulls, different really weird looking skulls, that were allegedly found dug up.  And I remembered this one, and you had seen it too, and I asked you what you thought about it, and you said that you thought it could have been an engineered, a genetically engineered, because of the size of the brain cavity in it, etc.  Remember that?  Well, that’s where it started.  And you were talking about how people are bred for their psychological traits.  And lacking certain emotions and certain, okay, can you pick that up?

Alan: You’ll find evidence that the breeding of people for specific functions was perfectly understood, just by reading Plato’s Republic.  So, you’re going back 2,300-odd years.  And Plato of course, like all of the aristocracy of Greece, had been educated in Egypt.  That’s where they all went.  And, so everything that he talked about in the Republic, came really from Egypt, which had already ruled the world for a few thousand years, the ancient world.  And he goes into the methods of selective breeding for specific purposes.

Jackie: And we want to remember, excuse me, I just want to reiterate this for our listeners, that there were pharaohs, or maybe, I don’t know if all of the pharaohs, but they were white, not Egyptian, and some even had red hair.

Alan: Yeah, and they’ve found the wigs, of course, in the tombs, that they wore, the black wigs, made from the native people’s hair.  And the males and the females of the aristocracy or nobility of Egypt and Sumer wore the black wigs.

Jackie: What do you think about Cleopatra?  Was she one of them?

Alan: Well, Cleopatra was actually Greek.  She came from the Ptolemy line, and of course Ptolemy was a General of Alexander, and he took over the reign of Egypt, and she was descended from the Ptolemies.  So, yeah she was definitely white and from that type of class.  But if you go back into this breeding program, Plato went through what they’d done with animals, just like today, if you want a domesticated dog for hunting, you know what kind to look at, the types of breeds.  If you want one for a faithful pet, there’s a whole variety for that, so they all have specific traits.  And if you want a guard dog, you know what type to go for.  And it’s done by literally selectively breeding personality types together for size, strength and temperament, and that particular psychological trait that you’re after.  And Plato went through that.  And he said, we can do exactly the same with people.  For the working class, he said, you don’t want highly intelligent people, but you do want strength.  So you want them short, squat, if you like, muscular.  And he went through the methods of simply selecting a male and a female, and interbreeding them, and then, taking their children, and doing the same all over again, until you had the desired outcome.  He said, if you want tall ones for picking apples, you make them, you simply select the tall ones and keep interbreeding them.  But it’s the same thing with psychological traits.  That’s why they went to such incredible lengths for genealogies for rulers and kings and queens.  You want people who have psychopathic traits in so much that they cannot feel empathy for others.  So, that part of the brain which is developed in most people, it gives us our sociability, and our empathy for others.  You can actually breed that out of them by selective breeding.

Jackie: And yes, and that you said has to do with different areas of the brain.

Alan: They knew in fact in Ancient Egypt what parts of the brain affected the types of emotion, the areas for taste, smell, and hearing and so on.  They had that all mapped out.  In fact, one of the pharaohs wrote one of the first medical books, and detailed all of this.  So, this is well understood that certain parts of the brain had to do with what we call gifts, like skills in mathematics and so on.  So, they could, by picking a male and a female who had similar qualities, either increase that ability, or if they wanted to get rid of a particular quality, like empathy, you wouldn’t want a soft ruler.  You want someone who’s hard and cruel if need be.  So, you simply breed a male and a female of similar temperaments, and then the same thing with their offspring, and then the same thing again, until you have the desired type.  So, when they talk about keeping genealogies of nobility down through the ages, they’re not just talking about who their fathers or mothers were.  They’re also keeping track of the qualities that they possessed.

Jackie: To know who they wanted to breed with who.

Alan: For specific types of qualities.  And for nobilities of course, and kings and queens, you’ll find that they have all the temperaments of ego, typically psychopathic.  They have tremendous ego, so they love to be praised.  They love to have battles and so on, and come out on top.  But they’re never very smart.  They’re not what you would call terribly intelligent.  So they in turn could be manipulated by the priesthoods that do all the selection, you see.  And that’s why kings and queens have all the advisors around them.  They’re supplied with the advisors just like today.  It’s no different today.  The advisors to presidents and prime ministers are not elected by any public.  We’re never told where they’re trained.  And yet we know that they’re all trained in the same global tactics, because they all know each other.  They all push presidents and prime ministers to go along with the same agenda.  So, someone appoints these particular people, and they’re trained somewhere, but we are told very little about them or their background.  But they’re far more intelligent than the people that they advise.

Jackie: And they in turn are taking their directions from someone above them, yes?

Alan: Yes.  In very high Freemasonry, way above your 33rd, they call these advisors the Grey Men.  And the Grey Men, that pertains to the ones who are in touch with those of the Earth, the chess board, the black and the white strips or squares.  So, they come to the world, the earthly world, and that’s the black, basically, but they also go to the light, the one that directs the whole thing.  So they’re in between presidents and the real controllers.  So, they’re called Grey Men.  Kissinger and the Brzezinskis and these guys, these are the Grey Men.  They know a lot more than presidents do.  And they’re far more intelligent too.

Jackie: Getting back to those skulls, and then we’ll come back to this.  Some of them were very weird.  And see, so when I looked at them, it was fascinating, intriguing, but I also knew that I didn’t know if these actually were skulls that were dug up, or if somebody molded them out of clay.  It’s hard to tell.  But the one, explain the one that you saw and what you thought about it.

Alan: Well, you’ll actually see, there was a big debate, some years ago, on the paintings and architecture of Akhenaten, who’s a big player in high Masonry.  They model the Moses story after Akhenaten, who brought in the one-God worship into Egypt.  And I don’t believe he did, because he was way too young. He was only 15 when it happened.  But in the paintings in the tombs and also in the frescoes they’ve found, his skull in the painting, and his wife, they have elongated skulls at the back, so the back of the head is elongated, and the children’s are too.  And of course then the archaeologists stepped in and said, well that was just a change from one art style to the next.  But they did unearth a lot of the skulls of Akhenaten’s family, and sure enough, they have these strange elongated, they’re real skulls.  They’ve found so many of them in that particular lineage.

Jackie: Okay, well, the ones that I saw, you know, there wasn’t any, like this is from Akhenaten’s line or anything.  But what does this indicate if there’s an elongated skull and it’s towards the back did you say, or towards the front?

Alan: Yeah, it’s high.  The head is high.  And the occipital lobe at the back is longer as well.  So the whole cortex, really, in other words, there’s more brain cells there.  There’s no doubt about it.  And also, if you look closely at the skull, you’ll see that they’re more roundish towards the front.  So it’s presumed that they were all given birth by Cesarean section.  When you go through the birth canal, for instance, you know that the lobes, the parietal lobes slide over each other in the baby’s skull.  And it’s always been debated how much damage that does.  And so, a lot of the nobility, not just recent, but in ancient times...

Jackie: Unless a woman is, excuse me, I’m sorry, these thoughts come and I just spurt them out.  If women are basically built for childbearing, but there are some women who are narrower hipped and narrower pelvis, where I would think that that would be the case.  But would the woman who was really built for childbearing, there wouldn’t be that kind of damage, would there?

Alan: There would still be some, because that still would have to, they still slide, basically.

Jackie: What is it that slides, Alan?

Alan: Well literally, the skull has two plates you might say, two main plates that will slide over each other.

Jackie: That’s where that soft spot is at the top on a baby.

Alan: The fontanel, yeah.  Anyway, getting back to this, these guys knew this back in ancient Egypt.  And the strange thing was, when you look at the ones they’ve unearthed in the Aztec lineage, the nobility and kings and queens, they’re the same.  They’ve got these same strange elongated skulls, which are also thicker than a normal human skull at the back, because again there was another debate in medicine, well, was this due to hydrocephalus, which can actually build up spinal fluid.  But no, because you wouldn’t get a thickening of the skull.  These skulls both in the Aztec rulership and in the Egyptian rulership, were both thicker at the back.  So, it’s a strange trait, which could certainly have been done through intense interbreeding for those very abilities that those people actually possessed.

Jackie: I recall, this was, I think, during our first, very first broadcast for that five-week period in ’98, and I’ve relistened to the tapes, a couple of times now, but the second time around was extremely fascinating, because quite a bit of time had gone between.  But I remember you talking about Akhenaten, and you said that he had basically over-ridden in a sense the priesthood, and he had brought in the one god, worship of one god, and that he was a very humble person.  In other words, he didn’t have himself painted or sculpted as a big broad-shouldered, but he had kind of a, you know, squat body and pot belly and...

Alan: Big hips too.  In fact, he had bigger hips than his wife.

Jackie: Wow.  And you said that soon after he died, all of the temples that he had erected for the one God were destroyed and they went right back to the multiple god worship.

Alan: Yeah.  It was a strange time period.  As I say, he had to have been coached as to what to do, even with the theology to go along with this one-god worship.  And the god, of course, was the sun.  It was the sun he was talking about.  And actually, the sun is a symbol of the light bringer or Lucifer.  We have to remember that too.  In all mystic religions it’s always the same.  And he had, you’ll see pictures of Akhenaten and his wife, and from the sun comes these lines like almost like the lines cast from a ship.  And at the end of it, you have the Ankh.  And that’s what an Ankh is.  That’s where we get the word anchor from.  And the old Egyptian anchor was Ankh shaped, you see.  It didn’t have the hook at the end, as it did in later times.  So, that was the symbol of being anchored to the light bringer.  And, but it wasn’t for everyone.  It was only for a special class of people.

Jackie: Alan, has there ever been a time in the history of this world that you’re aware of, where people actually didn’t have a god that had, you know, human personalities and etc, or the sun.  I’ve wondered to myself sometimes, did they worship the sun as representative of the one creator, given that the sun gives physical life on this earth.

Alan: Yeah.  That was one way of looking.  See, long before there were rulerships as we know them, you know, people lived in small communities, and everything had a magic to it, a natural magic, simply meaning a nature of life which they could not understand, but it was wonderful to observe.  That’s what it meant.  And so, they didn’t build up any theology about it, or dogma.  But along came the priesthoods, who subverted all of this.  And eventually, they had them trained in Egypt, and the Mayans did it too, and the Aztecs, that if this priesthood didn’t get up in the morning, and have enough gifts and money presented, then they wouldn’t perform the ceremony that would make the sun rise, you see.  So the natural awe that people held for nature in general, for life itself, was subverted and taken over by very intelligent psychopathic types.

Jackie: The priesthood.

Alan: Who then used it against the people, and built up dogma and rules and regulations.

Jackie: And created nations.

Alan: That’s right.  And made the people, turned the people into slaves.

Jackie: And turned the people into slaves and turned the people into warriors to protect the nation’s borders.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: Now, you know when you first said that, those are concepts that, because, I don’t know that it occurred to very many of us, how did nations come about, and I didn’t necessarily buy into it.  But it was an interesting thought, especially, when you, you know, explained the meaning of the word, international.  It means inter, to bury, the nations.  And yet, they in the writings of the elite, those who call themselves Jews, they say, that they were the ones that created the nations.  And, of course, they weren’t the ones, but somebody asked me after that broadcast, and you were talking about what it was like before the priesthood was in control, or in areas where they got control.  And that that was the most natural way of living.  And somebody emailed me and said, is he insinuating that we all need to go back to the cave days?  I said, maybe so.  Maybe so, maybe not cave days, but...

Alan: Well, here’s a paradox.  Here’s a paradox for everybody, and it’s the meaning of.  See, the Bible, in the Old Testament, is allegory, is Masonic allegory.  And everything, every story in it is an allegory for something else.  Which is well understood by those near the top.  And so Eden represents nature in its pure state.  And if you’re not content with nature in its pure state, and you leave nature, and you put your faith in science, you see, because once you leave the place where everything is there that you need, and you become dependent on specialists, whether it’s a blacksmith or whatever, then there’s only one path from Eden, and it leads eventually to where we’re going in the future, actually now.  It leads to the extinction of the human will, the human mind, and independent thinking.

Jackie: And in the villages, where there were clans and etc, they had toolmakers, people who seemed to be more gifted in that area.  They had their healers, people who knew the herbs to use for medicine and etc.  And their "holy men" or women, and these were women who took a lot of time alone for contemplation and not to coin a phrase, but spiritual enlightenment, so to speak.  And so, it was all there, within the village.  And each person had different talents.  And it was all shared.

Alan: Yeah, yeah.  Because the strength of the tribe depended on everyone being involved.  No one went hungry, for instance.  And they didn’t have the moneyed work ethic, a different type of work ethic, where the individual who accumulates has the right to dominate the rest.  That didn’t exist.  And in fact, up until the 1700s, in the highlands of Scotland, you’ll find that iron nails were still exchanged as a form of money.  It was more important to them to have something that was useful.  But of course, they had the rebellion then, and that was all arranged, because they had to destroy that old system.  And they did.  They cleared the highlands.

Jackie: The rebellion being a revolution.

Alan: Well, they sent over Prince Charles, who, he was over in France at the time.  And they sent him over, and he led a revolution which failed.  I think it was intended to fail.  And everybody, no one knew, except him, I’m sure.  And then, they used that as an excuse to clear the highlands, even though only a few clans took part.

Jackie: Would you hold that thought?  We’re at the half hour.  We’re going to take a break here.

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Jackie: Okay, we’re back with Alan Watt, folks.  You were mentioning the uprising in Scotland.

Alan: It was a handful of clans followed the Bonnie Prince Charlie, as they called him, Charles Stewart.  And I lived in a place called Culloden for a while, where that last battle took place, and he led them there.  He went off a couple of miles away, into a Culloden house, for the night, and left them on this bog, it was an actual bog, and they got up in the morning early because of the British army, and it was British, because there were Scottish regiments, southern Scottish regiments there too.  So they were all arrayed with their cannon and firing away for about five hours before Charles gave the order to charge.  And it turned out that Charles had scampered.  He hadn’t even arrived on the battlefield, and he escaped back to France and then to Italy.  So, they were left as a sacrifice.  Interestingly enough, there’s a story involved with this, that tells you how the future is planned.  It truly is planned.  Because there was, in Scotland, you have these seers they call them.  And one of them was called the Brahan Seer, who could see into the future.  And the Brahan Seer lived in the 1500s.  And I read the original book in a library, from the 1500s, and he did say that when he was passing what became Culloden, it was called Drumossie at that time, Drumossie Moor, he said, woe, for Drumossie Moor will be the death of the flower of Scotland, as he called it.  And flower of Scotland is the young men.  That’s what that means.  And just before the battle, about a year before the battle, it was officially changed on the maps, that Drumossie Moor to Culloden, which is the culling of Odin, you see.  Because the old clans still had Odin as their deity.

Jackie: The culling of Odin.  Now, how long before this happened was this written that this Seer said this?

Alan: About 200-odd years.  So, that’s how things are planned. We’re taught and trained and indoctrinated to believe that life, we just bumble along and politicians stumble through crises that they can’t foresee, and nothing can be further from the truth.  Because, when you go into history, you’ll find very elite sects of people writing about the future, because they belonged to organizations which planned the future.  And of course, you’ll find the whole globalization effort with all of what we now think of as the UN agendas, interfering with all phases of our life.  You’ll find Cecil Rhodes and his Secret Society, and then followed up by Lord Milner, who then ran it with the Round Tables.  They wrote about it, and Carroll Quigley documented most of it in his two main books, Tragedy and Hope, and he wrote another one, it was called The Anglo-American Establishment, where he gives you the names of the big players, the big families that are involved in this, and where they thought they could bring us.  If you go into the writings of Lenin in the early 1900s, he said towards the end of the millennium we shall see a global society come into view.  Lord Bertrand Russell said the same thing around 1920.  So, these guys knew exactly the time lines that they were working on with five, ten, twenty, fifty, one-hundred year plans.  And if you look into the United Nations today, they’re still working on those same types of schedules, with fifty and a hundred-year plans.

Jackie: I was doing some searching today on the internet, seeing if I could come up with that meeting that you were talking about, meetings that they had been having, UN environmental meetings in Texas, relating to water and septic and etc.  And border region 20, is now called border 2012.  Or border region 21, I guess it was.  Whatever, it’s now 2012.

Alan: And right now, they’re having an Earth Summit in Alaska.  And we know what happened from the last Earth Summit, it was a tremendous impact, on all our way of living with the environment and so on.  So these things are ongoing, continuous, and actually, they’re speeding them up.  But, as I say, Lord Milner and Cecil Rhodes and Lord Rothschild, and all these guys who helped set up the secret society that they formed.  Again, it was a high Masonic society, with passwords and so on.  They wrote about what’s happened in our lifetimes.  They helped bring on World War II, and Carroll Quigley documents that very, very well, from the records of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, which the Cecil Rhodes and Milner group set up.  And the American branch is called the CFR.

Jackie: And you can go back a hundred years to the protocols and it is so eerie what they said a hundred years ago, and how they were going to do what they were going to do, and how it has been done, even to the point of saying, we’re going to give the President the authority to declare war.  Well, he’s never been given the authority other than by those advisors, who say, yes, you should do this, and yes you can do it.  But that is happening today.

Alan: Well, even the New American Century document that was published in the ’90s and drawn up by Wolfowitz and Cheney and that bunch, and that was a private organization at that time, they had the whole war, which countries they were going to invade, beginning with Afghanistan, and then Iraq, and then Iran and Syria.  So they had all the countries mapped out in advance.  And then they went and did it.  So, sure.  And then Brzezinski’s book came out, called The Grand Chessboard, in the late ’90s.  And he said, we need something on the scale of a Pearl Harbor situation, to motivate the American public behind us for those countries we wish to go to war with.  And lo and behold, things always seem to happen in their favor.

Jackie: Yes, and then there was Kissinger.  I watched and listened to this man, within a couple of hours of 9/11, and he said this is an attack just like Pearl Harbor, and we need to address it in the same way.

Alan: Yes.  And immediately too, Brzezinski was on television saying we should go to war with Iraq, you know.  And you know, most people today, they’ve done polls in Canada and the States, and they published them in the newspapers here, most people in the US think now, because of all the propaganda by the media, they’ve forgotten that Afghanistan was supposed to be the hiding place for the Al Qaeda, and they’ve come to believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for the attack.  Even though I’ve got it on videotape during the inquiry where George Bush said, he says, No, I never said that we were attacking Iraq because Saddam had anything to do with blowing up the towers.  He said, I went into Iraq, he said, because the world’s a better place without him.  So, you know, but the public truly have been brainwashed by retrospective propaganda by the media to believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible.

Jackie: Well, I recall, maybe that was a process, because I can remember them saying, first of all it was Afghanistan, because that’s where Osama Bin Laden was hanging out.  And they had to go in there and find him and the terrorists.  And the next thing you know, Saddam Hussein was harboring terrorists.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: Now, Al Qaeda was not associated with Bin Laden, was he?

Alan: Well, the Al Qaeda was a term that the CIA gave them.  And of course, the CIA had formed and sponsored and funded and trained these groups, when Afghanistan was occupied by the Russians.  So they trained them and formed them to do what they did.

Jackie: Yes, Osama Bin Laden was a CIA asset.

Alan: That’s right.  And he’s a member of the nobility of Saudi Arabia.

Jackie: And for any newer listeners, Osama Bin Laden’s family was very closely connected and in business with the Bushes.

Alan: And they did documentaries on the CBC on that.  In fact, on the very day that the towers went down, Bush Sr was at a meeting with the Laden family.

Jackie: Yes.  And they were flown safely out of the States, I understand.

Alan: That was the only aircraft allowed to fly the following day.

Jackie: Yep.  And then Osama Bin Laden was the bad guy.

Alan; That’s correct.  It’s just amazing how they play these tricks with us.

Jackie: Yes.  I’d like to bring this up a little bit to closer to today, if we could.  Because something that I’d like you to share, if you would, with our listeners, well, I had a call from Jerrie in Wisconsin, and she was very interested, when at the end of the broadcast last night, we were talking, just briefly about rural cleansing.  And the one thing, and I will say this once again, because I couldn’t understand.  I didn’t doubt that they intend to move people out of the country, into the cities.  And I’ll tell you what really clinched it for me, was that, in the Old Testament, after they took all the people’s grain and made them pay for it, and then created a depression, and then they had no money, so they had to give away their flocks to the pharaoh, and finally they sold themselves and their children into slavery.  And it says right in there that Joseph gathered the people up from the country and took them into the cities.  And, anyway, I couldn’t figure out how are they going to do this, you know, just say, okay, you can’t live here anymore.  Well, now we’re experiencing rural cleansing.  Besides the rewilding, they’re already getting their playgrounds ready, but here in the rural areas, first of all, we have rural electric, rural gas, and there are all these, oh, we can’t make any money.  For example my heating bill is natural gas.  And Pennsylvania is natural gas rich.  In fact we’re a natural gas pocket where we live.  And yet, they keep taking these hikes, of course.  Last year, it got to the point where I had to go on the budget plan, and it was, it budgeted out to $191 a month throughout the year, when during the summertime my bill was running maybe $27 to $38 a month.  So, I got close to $400 in some months.  I received a notice from the gas company that according to my usage last year, the budget plan for my monthly will go up to $247 a month.  And when I called them, basically, I got the same story that I did the first time I called about this.  Oh, well, we can’t make a profit, it’s against the law.  Well, then why are the rates so high?  Well, it’s our suppliers.  We get our gas from all over the country.  I said, what about Pennsylvania?  Why don’t we get it here?  It must cost bukoo tons of money to pipe gas from states all over this country.  And I have to go to the Energy Commission, or something like that, in order to get answers to that.  But, so, our costs of electricity have risen.  We took a rate raise, she said, in September, and there’s going to be another one in December.  And the electricity has gone up.  And they are raising our property taxes every single year.  And of course that’s happening at a local level.  And it doesn’t matter if people swarm these county commissioners, township supervisors, they do it.  They just absolutely do it.  And I still think that a damn good, excuse my vernacular, tarring and feathering, and I don’t mean scalding somebody with hot tar.  But it seems like it has to stop some place.  But then you look at the prices of gasoline for the cars, and so, in the rural areas, I’ve heard people actually talking about maybe not being able to afford to keep their jobs because the gas that it’s going to cost them to get to their jobs, they’ll wind up making nothing.  And I suddenly thought, it’s rural cleansing.

Alan: All this was discussed in the Kyoto conference.  And they reiterated really what’s been said before by the UN many times, that they want to bring North America back to the energy consumption of the 1960s.  And that’s what they’re doing.  This is all to do with the Kyoto.

Jackie: And I saw an article about bicycles and how many hundreds of thousands of people, there have been a few million, I guess, that are switching to bicycles.  I have an article here from the 1950s, a newspaper article or a report.  It could have been a report on a political agenda, that they intend to get the people out of their cars and driving, riding bicycles.  And here we are.

Alan: China is the model state for all of this, but what China or the main cities there don’t get is lots of snow, you know.  And they won’t let us use spikes on our bicycle tires here, because it churns up the road, you see.  So, I guess we’ll be skating to work, maybe, or skiing, maybe skiing to work.

Jackie: And we had a conversation, quite a few weeks ago.  One of our listeners here in Pennsylvania was telling you that in his county and it’s actually a county right next to this one, it was a road, that was not really heavily traveled.  One accident occurred on that road about seven years ago, or one accident in seven years, and yet they’ve lined the highway for miles with guard rails.  And what you kind of figured out, you said, you know, because they’re talking about these all-terrain vehicles or the SUVs.

Alan: That’s right.  I used to wonder why on earth, the SUV, they’re attacking so much.  Then you realize, when you look at the recent events in New Orleans and in Texas.

Jackie: Relocation, yes.

Alan: Everyone has to stay on the same highways.  They don’t want people wandering off.  So, whatever is coming down the pike, they don’t want people with the ability to drive off the road through the country, you know.

Jackie: Because the guard rails aren’t on any particular slopes.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: And how many miles did he say this guard rail went?

Alan: I don’t know, but it was just the fact that it was done so quickly for no real reason.  Local governments don’t spend money like that.  In fact, generally, when it’s something that’s necessary, it’s hard to get them to act at all, but this wasn’t necessary, so there’s other reasons behind it.  And I think whatever is coming, they’re going to want people staying on certain roads as they herd us all into where we’re supposed to go.

Jackie: Yeah.  Well, it occurs to me, we could have an "unnatural disaster" here in the area, where they say, okay, we have to get you out of here for your own safety.  And it does make sense that those SUVs would easily be able to drive off a country road, through a field, even through light woods if they’ve got trails, and they don’t have to stay with the pack, with the herd.

Alan: That’s right.  And you know, in New Orleans, I don’t know if the public are still aware, they still have road checks all over the place.  Every so many miles, you come up to roadblocks.  And you show your ID and all the rest of it.  That’s still going on, right now.

Jackie: I told you, I mentioned last night, about the lady that was here with friends.  Not here at my place, but in Pennsylvania, and she tried to go back, if I recall, and she was turned away.  And she doesn’t know when she can go back.  And her home wasn’t even flooded, but she was ousted at gunpoint, and I really would love to know what is happening in New Orleans, or in that area.  I’m not asking for calls this evening, but listeners who might have, because, Alan, it’s been quiet.

Alan: I know.  It’s like they dropped it all together.

Jackie: I know, but usually on the internet, there are reports from people, you know, people who lived in the area or etc.  And I still get a slew of emails, and those I pull up when they come in.  Those are the ones that I want to take a look at.  And it’s just been so quiet, that you just don’t know what’s been going on there.

Alan: No, I know.  So, it’s a huge training exercise for sure, for the military and the police and the multi-jurisdictional task force.  They’re all one now.  One fraternity they were called on the main media here.  One brotherhood is another term they used on the CBC.

Jackie: The brotherhood of police?

Alan: Police and military.  International brotherhood of police and military.  That was said.

Jackie: They have had for a long time, and this is so amazing, when you think how slick they are.  They have the, let’s say a county association of police.  Police chiefs.  They’ll have then the state.  Then they’ll have the national association.  And the international association.  And they have the international association of mayors.

Alan: And they all are international, which means they’re registered with the United Nations.  And they have their own publications that are sent around to the police chiefs all over the world.  And they promote the agenda.  And if they promote the agenda they know that they not only stay in their job, they’ll get well rewarded for it.

Jackie: Well, you know, I read a book, and it was a very intriguing book.  It’s been a few years ago.  And it followed this one particular police chief and he went from one state, Alan, to another.  He kept showing up in other states.  Very corrupt.  Very evil.  And he would leave after things would get so hot, and then the next thing you know, he’s a police chief in another state someplace.

Alan: I’d like to say though, I tuned in one Sunday, through the shortwave, I was scanning the shortwave, and the FM stations in New Orleans have got together because of the damage, so they’ve got together as an amalgam, a temporary amalgamation, and they’re broadcasting on shortwave at certain times during the day on 15.825.  And the last one that I listened into, it was the reporters and the media, from those stations, getting an update from the FEMA representatives there.  So, you get it live as it happens on 15.825.

Jackie: And it’s various times throughout the day?

Alan: Yeah, the rest of the time, it’s religion, but then it comes in, and it will tell you.  It’s called WWL, that’s one of the FM stations.  URBC is the other one.  And there’s another one.  There’s three of them together, in fact, but they’re broadcasting on the shortwave, and that’s where you get the news from, straight from there.

Jackie: Yeah, but do you think it’s actual real stuff you’re getting?

Alan: That’s what the people in that area are receiving themselves on their FM stations.  They’re simultaneously broadcasting it on the shortwave.

Jackie: But why would we think that they’re getting the truth, Alan?

Alan: Well, I know.  I know.  In fact, that’s what they did show you, it was a question-answer thing.  So you heard the answers that FEMA were giving to the press.  And it’s up to the individual to suss it out, sort of thing.  But it’s a huge exercise with FEMA totally in control.

Jackie: Alright. ...And Alan, we’re just about out of time.  We do have next week coming up.  I’m going to be talking to Darren Weeks, our webmaster, and I would like to invite Darren to come on with us, next week, for one or two days.  But I’m thinking, it would be appropriate, as much time as you’ve given, and as much enlightenment that you’ve brought to us, to invite you to come on Wednesday night, which would be our last broadcast night.  If you would like to do that.  ...Okay.  Folks, we’ll be back with you, Monday.  And thank you for being here, and Alan, thank you for being here.

Alan: It’s a pleasure.

Jackie: Good night.  Good night, folks.  And God bless you.

Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This isn’t Jackie as you can tell. She’s got a very bad cold. It’s Alan. Jackie phoned me up about an hour ago and asked me to stand in for her. She’s got a guest there right now. Although next week she’ll be on Monday, Tuesday herself and I think she’s going to talk about some information concerning World War I and the Lusitania.

I have nothing planned of course. I never do. I generally just talk as to what comes into my head first and one topic that was mentioned on the mainstream news last night was interesting and that was the border crossings between Canada and the U.S.

The news reporter–this is mainstream television in Canada, the main reporter was at one of the crossings, and I’m not sure if it was St. Catherine’s or down by Sault St. Marie, but you could see the traffic flowing through without problems and she mentioned that. There were no real problems but there were some regular visitors that were shying away and crossings had dropped because the people thought it was more of a hassle getting through either way. Then of course they brought in the Ambassador to Canada from the U.S. and he said, well, it’s going to be even easier shortly because with the new I.D. card he says you can just scan it through the machine and you’ll be straight through he said.

This new I.D. card which is to be mandatory by 2007, right now it’s actually voluntary. The new I.D. card will have your iris scan. It’s got an active chip in itIt has your DNA in it recorded, your voice print, basically all information about you that you probably don’t even know yourself.  You’ll all be glad to know it’s going to be so much easier to get through the border when they have everything about you on this card; and those people who’ve looked into the patent rights of cards, it’s kind of like Monsanto with their seed.

Monsanto is in the business of taking all seeds that have been around for thousands of years and if no one’s patented them they’re patenting them and so people who have those seeds now have to pay Monsanto because Monsanto has the legal right, you see, and we know in this world legality is everything in the system.

When you give your digital image to these people they basically own your rights, so everything is on it about you, even your DNA. I guess that means that legally they own your DNA as well and I’m not joking about this. That’s how insidious and weird the true esoteric legal system is.

I should mention the day as well, this is the 25th of January 2006, and so there’s about a year left for this mandatory eventually I.D. card to come in and you’ll all be so much safer and just buzz through so quickly and it’s all for our own good, of course, because we obviously don’t know who we are.

I don’t know if they showed this in the United States. Probably not, because for a country that has more TV stations than anybody in the world, they certainly do keep you in a box in the U.S., and we [Canada] have far, far more mainstream news about what’s happening within the U.S. than they do in the U.S.

When Mr. Bush and Mr. Fox and Mr. Martin from Canada signed the "United Americas" last March it was shown here for at least 2 minutes on the CBC and maybe 3 minutes on global news, but I don’t think anybody showed it anywhere within the United States itself and that was an official joining of the Americas.

Having so much data in the media doesn’t mean they’re telling you anything that really matters and certainly, of course, that’s the trick of it all. It’s the last thing someone would expect when you have such so-called "free media" that they’re simply feeding you USELESS DATA and trivia generally or propaganda but seldom giving you any truth.

Of course, whatever governments have done in history, there’s always an esoteric for the public and the exoteric–they sometimes give you the truth 50 years after an event and after the official secret act the time has expired and sometimes they won’t. They’ll reclassify it for another 50 years.

For the "free trade negotiations" that were done back in the 80's, they buried most of the contracts really between the countries involved. That was the precursor to NAFTA and was actually more important than NAFTA because PREAMBLES tell you the meanings of the words they’ll be using in the actual official documents and they’re often very different from the ones you think they actually meant. The free trade negotiations were classified and buried in some underground bunker outside Ottawa and they won’t be opened for another 50 years or so.

By that time, if there are still people around who can think, which I tend to doubt to be honest with you, they’ll gladly show it to you because a future generation doesn’t care what happened in ancient history. You know 50 years today is ancient history and with the Dewey system well underway in the school system.

Any REAL HISTORY HAS BEEN PRETTY WELL CHOPPED OUT and it’s hard to find a student today around 16 who knows when World War I began and finished, never mind World War II, and who participated in it.  THIS IS ALL BY DESIGN because they said that any conflicts that might go on down through the generations, because of racial differences or whatever, would have to be removed from the history books.  This has been going on under the National Education Association, which is a part of the International Educational Association, and THE WHOLE WORLD HAS BEEN STANDARDIZED TO THE SAME SYSTEM UNDER THE UNITED NATIONS.

We have lots of data to keep us occupied but there’s very little truth that we can use unless we really dig into it and use our own REASONING POWER, because the BIG BOYS WILL NEVER COME OUT AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY’VE REALLY DONE TO YOU, WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING TO YOU, AND WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO TO YOU.

 

Since we are going along in a system which has been here for thousands of years where they have Good Shepherds. Today, they wear business suits. Sometimes in past history they wore uniforms, like Adolph Hitler and Stalin and so on, and we still have our friend in Cuba of course.  Through the UNIFORM, which is "ONE FORM," that’s what uniforms mean – Masonics make "one form" out of many, "one" you see, and one system, one world, all of this kind of stuff.

You’ll find that in our minds we expect to see dictators or tyrants in a uniform who yell and scream at their audience and gesticulate with wild gestures like Mussolini, and that’s why they keep showing us these old cuts every so often. They seem to crop up all the time and that is to condition us this way, so when we see a guy in a business suit and he doesn’t yell and scream (at least not publicly) we can't see him as being a dictator or a tyrant; and it’s very misleading because they can say things much, much worse than any tyrant has ever said publicly, in a nice gentle way, and the viewers simply are not conditioned or they’re de-conditioned not to actually see what they’re seeing or hear what they’re hearing.

I think Mr. Bush himself said that the Constitution of the United States was "just a piece of paper," which is odd because I said that on Jackie’s show back in ’98, and it is. No piece of paper can stand up and demand your rights. It’s the people who back it and who want that to be so, who make it so, and if they don’t care, well they don’t care. It is a piece of paper.

THAT’S THE REALITY OF THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.

However, the GOOD SHEPHERDS as I say WHO RUN THE WORLD and it’s not the front men you see, the shepherds; the true shepherds seldom go amongst the sheep. They pay their front men to do that and of course the sheep like the shepherd. They think he’s a good guy. He wears a business suit and even the one in Communist China wears a business suit.

These shepherds wear business suits and they have nice scripts because they have the best script writers in the world who must have a common education from some strange underground university because they all advise their front men in the same speeches and to PASS THE SAME LAWS WORLDWIDE AT THE SAME TIME.  Yet WE NEVER HEAR how come these advisers, who are UNELECTED of course, in any country, we never hear how they get these positions or who trains them and who authorizes them to be where they are, but they do write good speeches. They’re Hollywood type scripts, right down to the pauses that the presidents and the prime ministers make, even the little jokes they sometimes tell – as anyone who watched the movie, "Wag the Dog" I’m sure saw.

We’re living in a Disneyland really, very much so and it isn’t simply because we’ve woken up into Disneyland. Disneyland was here long before Disney.

The ancients knew and anyone who studied the history of India, ancient history, will come across certain princes who moved into India. These are the ones who did call themselves the Aryan race, whom the Brahmans supposedly are descended from, and they moved into the Dravidians – the name given to the people who were originally were there and they knew which religions to use for the particular people they took over.

You’ll find fantastic planning going into the creation of religions specifically tailored for the inhabitants of different areas of India. According to the culture they had at that time, they could actually adapt or tailor-make these religions for the people and the people would in fact obey them. They would obey all the rules they were given because it seemed fairly logical the way it was presented to them. The reason this formula worked then and it works today is that people are trained in one generation to listen today to EXPERTS.

In ancient times it was Holy Men and the Holy Men would be backed up with other priests. They would actually go out amongst the people, teach one generation that the set of rules, the reasons why they must obey the rules because there was a deity either watching them invisibly all the time.  Or else, you know they went into the reincarnation thing where you’re poor and destitute because you chose to be so and that’s why you’re in that position, but if you work really hard and lick my boots and if you create anything at all, I want a cut of it or I want a share of it through money.

If you do these kind of things to one who is superior to you, you might just come back in a higher position the next time. Strange as it sounds today, these religions worked very, very well for thousands of years for a SMALL ELITE RULING GROUP and all they had to do was TRAIN ONE GENERATION and that’s all they were taught.

They couldn’t READ OR WRITE. They believed priests and monks and so on, and they had TAILOR-MADE RELIGIONS given to them, psychological warfare par excellence.

Nothing could be improved upon the last few thousand years; in the last hundred or more actually, they’ve been using electronic backups and various other techniques, Pavlovian type indoctrinations to make us "LINEAR THINKINGas THEY CALL IT.  Linear thinking is the reason most people can’t ever figure out what’s really happening, even the ones who think they’re waking up. They might catch on to the banking system or the Constitution’s going down the drain, or we're amalgamating, or we're losing something, but they’re still really in the higher level of LEVEL ONE REALITY because this planet is far beyond simple changes that are happening today. It’s far more occult than that.

Sciences are used BEYOND THE COMPREHENSION of most people, apart from the very, very advanced electronics which are used, there are other means of applying science or transmitting signals you might say; and where they are scientifically, I don’t believe is just 50 years ahead.

I think the proof in Francis Bacon’s little Essay on the New Atlantis written in the late 1500's and published in 1602, where he goes into Solomon’s Island, which is actually Salomon's Island. It’s a play on the word salmon for its red flesh because the color of this agenda is ALWAYS RED.  Francis Bacon talks about eventually in the last chapter about getting into the UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS or LABORATORIES where he saw something powering the "underground facilities" that GAVE OFF THE LIGHT OF THE SUN.

Now today we would say that’s nuclear energy and then of course he talks about going into another lab where they have a machine to control the weather and create hurricanes, storms, droughts, famines and earthquakes, which sound suspiciously like HAARP today.  Going on from there, he goes into the genetically modified vegetable and animal area. He doesn’t use those terms.

He says where they take the most miniscule parts of life and work on them and create any kind of vegetable, or, he said, animal – and I PRESUME HUMAN of course, that’s what you’re supposed to come to yourself – and they know exactly how it will end up when they first start the stages of planning. In other words, they weren’t experimenting and doing it for the first time.

When you get these kind of clues from someone who is living in the 1500's, writing supposedly with beeswax candles and the best form of transportation was sailing ships and canvas, or on land it was a horse and buggy, he’s coming up with incredible stories which a crystal ball couldn’t have told them. He didn’t claim to be a medium, either.

Therefore, it would tell me they had these sciences; and of course to control the world for thousands of years–not just control it, but this world’s been heading along a long set plan, a set agenda, for thousands of years, it would tell you that THEY WOULD NEVER ALLOW THE GENERAL POPULATION TO KNOW HOW FAR AHEAD THEY TRULY ARE.

While the people of the Middle Ages were living in the Middle Ages, those who were controlling the Middle Ages were probably living in what we might say in the 20th or 21st centuries with the sciences that they actually had; and so you get these kinds of proofs popping up.

Lady Queensborough, who wrote about Freemasonry in the 1800's, talked about one of her friends who I think was an ambassador who went to the Grand Orient Lodge in France, prior to the telephone, met the Grand Master and that’s after of course Benjamin Franklin was the Grand Master of the Grand Orient of France.  They were having tea with a silver tea set and he heard a ringing noise coming from the teapot. The guy pushed something. The lid came up and he talked into it and he says, you’ll never guess where I’m talking to?  It was some other country across an ocean, so THE TELEPHONE WAS HERE. By the way, it was probably cellular because we don’t think they had wires laid at that time. That came later on. These things were reported and observed back in the early 1800's.

Lord Rothschild was also reported to have his little ventriloquist box. They had cartoons in British newspapers and that’s what he always pulled out when he was making these big deals such as taking over the Bank of England, because he just knew who won the battle before anyone else did. He liked to talk to himself into this little box you know. Of course, the official version is he had vast fleet of clipper ships that got there before anyone else got the news and then a horsemen rode to London told him who won. He dumped his bonds. Everyone thought that the British had lost and then he bought them all up for peanuts – all very legal, which is always a strange thing I’ve noticed in this system. NO MATTER HOW CORRUPT THEY ARE, THEY TEND NOT TO BREAK LAWS BECAUSE THEY WRITE THE LAWS SO THAT THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT BASICALLY.

Certainly very immoral, but then again if we look at the rule book, which is Old Testament, we have to admit that the old god blessed Jacob for conning his own father into believing that he was really the brother in order to get the blessings. The old father was blind and half deaf and so he dressed up like his brother with a woolskin shirt and brought him his favorite bowl of soup and stew and so on, and then got the blessings and he ended up supposedly being charged with the 12 tribes – which doesn’t mean 12 tribes at all and JACOB DOESN’T MEAN JACOB. Jacob was the sun and the tribes were the constellations; that's really what it meant, and so he’d broken through into the light to the sun. He became as the sun, and that’s the test of the very highest pinnacle of freemasonry when you hit 360 degrees because that’s what it takes to go around the circle.

Anyway, we’ve been lied to, conned mightily for thousands of years. Every generation has been brought up to believe they’re on the CUTTING EDGE.  When they were dying like flies in factories during the Industrial Revolution in Europe when the plague carts went around to collect the dead who DIED OF OVERWORK and malnutrition, often for working 16 hours per day, including Sundays, by the way. The day off on Sunday came much, much later, but the people in those days thought what else could they do. It’s just the way it was. That’s how we’ve evolved, as they would say in Darwinistic circles, you can help the poor so much but what else can you do for them?

What they don’t tell you is that Mr. Rothschild once he’d taken over the Bank of England – and personally I believe he was brought in by the elite already in Britain to run it more efficiently – when he was created Lord Rothschild he passed the Corn Laws Act, where you could bring in foreign corn and so on and dump it on the British market. It put all the tiny landowners out of business. They were forced then to go into the cities because that’s where THEY WANTED THEM so they could WORK the FACTORIES and everything happens you find in this order.

There’s no happenstance to anything. The people are coerced. THE WORLD IS PRE-PLANNED. THE DESTINY OF THE WORLD IS PRE-PLANNED THEN AS IT IS NOW and whatever you think is happening now, you’re generally wrong.

The media’s job – the media means "THE MIDDLE"Pyramid is of course "fire in the middle" too. It’s the fire between the capstone and the rest of the world, meaning the body; and the media’s job is to communicate certain data to you to shape your mind on an ongoing basis into expecting the next move, which will seem perfectly natural to us by the way it is explained.

The fact that for instance the New American Century published their agenda in the 1990's beginning with an attack on Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Iran and then Syria, in that order. The fact that we did hit Afghanistan first after 9/11, the EMERGENCY NUMBER, COINCIDENTALLY of course, and then go into Iraq.  During an inquiry Mr. Bush DID ADMIT on Canadian television at least that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with the Twin Tower bombing, he was just a bad guy that was in the way and the world was better off with him removed. Now of course they’re beating the war drums for Iran.

I’m sure they have their own men in Iran because each time he says something about the New World Order or Israel, I’m sure the population are quivering in fear because why would a man bring on disaster when the world’s biggest army is right next door to him ready to move in?

Why would he do this?  Until you realize that the old assassins–the assassins were called "Hashishin" [or, Hashshashin] and that’s where the world "hashish" comes from, since that’s what they basically lived on. That was in the Middle East and the Knights Templars in fact joined forces with the assassins and became one. Therefore, I’m pretty sure this guy who’s in charge of Iran and is making these big noises right now at the most inappropriate time is one of their own, and if anything does happen, I’m sure he’ll be picked up or smuggled out, one way or another, before all hell breaks loose. You’ll find that’s how the game is truly played, because wars, as Professor Carroll Quigley said:

"Wars are not intended simply to beat another people, they’re primarily to change the culture of all the participants."

Therefore, it’s the little people who have to change in the aftermath of war. It changes the culture, such as Britain when it came out of World War II–it went into World War II to fight national socialism and ended World War II as a national socialist country. That’s how it changed it. The BIG BOYS understood that. That was their goal. It’s hard for the average person to ever figure out how it happened and how it came about, because that was THE PLAN in the first place.

Hitler wanted a united Europe. Winston Churchill we’re told now with declassified documents by his personal secretary 50 years after the official Secret Act is up, Churchill spoke many times about a UNITED EUROPE coming out of World War II.  Regardless who they decided to win, it literally united Europe anyway.

It’s the SHEEP who must be conditioned for the changes. Not the people who LEAD US to the CHANGES, but the people themselves.

I hear the break coming up, so I’ll keep quiet now while the music plays when it comes on. I may have a minute left here. Anyway, Jackie will be back next week as I say on Monday and Tuesday and I think she’s going to talk about the Lusitania, which, when sunk, helped to get the United States eventually into World War One.

 

PART 2:

Hello, this is Alan Watt here standing in for Jackie Patru. She will be back on Monday and Tuesday, maybe Wednesday too, by herself doing a talk on the Lusitania, World War I.  I’ve been just going through these things that float through my head of course and that’s why I prefer not to be a linear thinker.

To be a linear thinker is to show that your conditioning through schooling has worked because linear thinking is obviously to do with what they call LOGIC and SET FORMATS where you look at a subject. You find out why the subject is the subject, what caused it to be so, what its purpose is, where does it go from here, et cetera, et cetera. It’s a MATHEMATICAL SEQUENCE so when you’re given a problem you think linearly and you come to the conclusion really that’s programmed for you to come to, which is always the wrong one.

IT KEEPS US IN THE DARK. If you’re non-linear you can think–you can jump back and forth between various topics and time and history because it all must be shown together how everything that’s happening today is simply a lead up, or was led up to, by preparations from thousands of years ago.  I put some of this in my three books for sale and I should mention them now.

I do some of the ancient history, the pre-Masonic but still the builders, of course, history of ancient Egypt et cetera. I show you much of the Masonic symbolism, although that’s being co-opted by one of the main superstars of shortwave who’s adopted this kind of stuff because they must get themselves put as the superstars so you’ll be led up the garden path; but it doesn’t matter anyway because they NEVER GIVE YOU ANY OF THE ESOTERIC MEANINGS anyway. If you want one or any of these books, or all three, [see http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com for ordering information].

These books as I say go up through that. The third book goes into that as well. I show you the big coincidences in history such as the Statute of Rhodes, which was the capital of the BIG BANKING BOYS thousands of years BC, and the Statute of Rhodes of course had the sun god with the spikes coming out of his head. He had his right hand out. Some ancient historians say he held a torch there. There was definitely a beacon there and of course people today will say, gee, that’s a similarity to the Statue in New York, quite near Rhodes in fact, isn’t it? That must be coincidence, mustn’t it?

You’re seeing the same symbols of UNBROKEN POWER from thousands of years ago up until today and you can’t put it all together. That’s quite something because these symbols have been used all down through history through every religion on the planet, every authorized religion, and the esoteric is ALWAYS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC or the PROFANE as they call it. It’s also HIDDEN from the lower degree Freemasons because you must have "willing fools," as Mr. Pike said himself, who don’t know that they’re fools. They think they’re there for charity and to do self-help work and all that kind of stuff.

THAT’S HOW THE WORLD REALLY RUNS.

Everybody’s in their little pigeon hole or a tunnel and they don’t know that there’s another tunnel next to them and there’s a whole bunch of tunnels next to them. They only live in their own little tunnel from the day they are born to the day they die.

It’s very interesting if we even go back to the times of Sumer, you’ll see the statues of the priests of Sumer and it’s very interesting that they wore the sheepskin skin around their loins, and of course it’s the same today. The proper Masonic pinafore, the apron, is also made of sheepskin (at least the good ones are); and of course you’ve got to ask yourself if there's a wolf behind the sheep here, or is that just Viagra? because these guys love to boast and they certainly do.

We have the same symbology down through the ages of the shepherd people, you see, the sheepskin, those who wear the sheepskin and they make the SHEEP AROUND THEM believe they’re ONE OF US.  We don’t realize the shepherd's VERY DIFFERENT FROM US because the SHEPHERD ACTUALLY OWNS US and we feed him and we clothe him. If the sheep knew that, they’d run a mile when they saw the shepherd, but of course the SHEEP DON’T KNOW THAT. They see business suits and well dressed people who are obviously EXPERT at running things and so we like them, just like the sheep, no different than ancient times.

We give it all to the GOOD SHEPHERDS who are PROMOTED to us, so that we might follow them. The only DUTY you have as a citizen in any country and you've got to realize a CITIZEN–the definition is "someone born into a system with preexisting duties."

In other words, IF YOU HAVE PREEXISTING DUTIES, HOW CAN YOU BE FREE? You see? It takes a little bit of thinking there, but we can overcome that barrier, and so we have preexisting duties. Of course, part of that is ALWAYS TO PAY OFF DEBT, even though Benjamin Franklin, a member of the illuminati, who gives you a lot of the clues, they speak openly because I guess they have to really give you very easy, easy clues.  Jefferson said:

"A generation born into paying off the debt incurred from the previous generation are de facto slaves."

Today, we call it DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM, so it’s quite amazing how we can be told the truth by some of the "illumined ones" down through history and we think, "well, so what, everything is fine, I’m okay Jack. How are you?"  WE IGNORE THE TRUTH.

Yes, from the sheepskins of the ancient Sumerian priests, you look at the Pharaohs of Egypt and they wore a cloth around them. You also see it was hung in the middle in a pyramid type shape from below the belly button down to above the knees like a kilt and of course he wore that type because he’s a perfect pyramid. He is at the top of the pyramid actually. The ones below would have to have ones with the flat square because they don’t have a capstone.

Nothing has really changed to today.

What we call "Freemasonic" is to SHAPE and BUILD CULTURE and SOCIETY and MAN HIMSELF. We look at the ancient builders of the medieval times and when they were building up a cathedral, they were also dismantling the old one; so they dismantle the past as they're putting up the new structure. This goes on and on through all the symbology.

Eventually THEY WILL RESHAPE MAN and it’s not that far off. They’ve got the ability to do it. It’s not because they’re waiting to improve the abilities to do it that they’re hanging on. They’re getting us all ready mentally and psychologically to ACCEPT the BIG CHANGES that are coming in a PHYSICAL REALM, because they’ve ALWAYS said THEIR JOB was to "perfect that which was left imperfect."

The guide to Solomon’s Temple is the individual "enlightened one" is the temple, you see. You are a temple, but it’s IMPERFECT FOR THE MASSES and therefore they’re going to perfect it. The next type of working type of people they will create will be purposely made for their tasks, just like Brave New World.

Aldous Huxley DID NOT get his ideas from again a crystal ball. Aldous Huxley was the grandson of Professor Thomas Huxley, who was Charles Darwin’s best buddy and he became the champion of Darwinism after Darwin died. Aldous Huxley got his information from inner circles of the ELITE in Britain from the universities and simply wrote them into his books.

He said on his speeches that he knew this would be put into operation, the Brave New World scenario where they will purposely grow people for a specific tasks and here’s another BIG COINCIDENCE.

We jump back to Plato’s Republic, when Plato in his discourse talks about the creation of a perfect world state where the guardian class won’t have to utilize so much time and energy to watch all the workers and slave populations because they will purposely make the SLAVE POPULATIONS for their own particular functions. That was called The Republic and that was his form of a utopia. Utopia to them is when they don’t have to give you entertainment, distractions, frivolous wars, that type of thing, dramas, plays, music to entertain us. They won’t have to. We’ll be very, very efficient because they’ll program people after creating them to do their work 24 hours a day. They won’t need entertainment.

Plato himself DID NOT dream up that idea, since Plato was a pupil of Socrates. Socrates of course was forced to drink the hemlock after being convicted and his conviction was they he tried to – he’d been recruiting the elite youth and training them through a secret society to infiltrate the power structure and cause revolution. Socrates and Plato both studied this in Egypt and so you look back at Egypt and you find all of these elite people who went to study there were initiated into the high mystery religions. Then they were sent back to their original countries to set up these little cult groups and train the youth through fascinating stories, which is the same today, of the supposed esoteric (but they don’t tell them the esoteric) and fomenting revolution – all must become one.

"Out of many, one."  Reverse it = One out of many. You might also say "monopoly". Mono = one, Poly = many, and that’s what the United States has been famous for is the creation of monopolies, "E Pluribus Unum".

This has always been their agenda. You see it all down through history if you care to look. It is not a coincidence and we’re dealing with something here which is obviously, very obviously does not think in completing any ONE THING in a LIFETIME, a human span. We’re dealing with SOMETHING which can make incredible plans thousands of years into the future, right down to the finish dates too; and IT obviously also always knew the wisdom of the past, meaning the study of human nature, for thousand of years in ancient times, to plan out a destination to bring mankind culminating into a world order, a New World Order, which of course in a coincidence Papa Bush mentioned September 11, 1990. All these coincidences are just tripping us up everywhere.

We’re dealing something which is beyond simply the human. It does teach humans as well, of course, the little workers they have, in a religious format because there’s a religion behind this – a definite religion. That’s what motivates natural man is DEDICATION TO A RELIGION, especially when it gives members SPECIAL PRIVILEGES in this world; but whatever is behind it, as we know, doesn’t worry about dying in a generation or so, that’s fairly obvious.

It’s also obvious that humans are not apt to plan something a generation ahead and carry it out. Other things crop up. Finances have to be pushed elsewhere. Unexpected things happen and people just get plain tired of it. There’s SOMETHING HERE DRIVING THIS GENERATION between one to the next to the next and the next.

If we look at the cathedrals of England and Europe, we realize that these cathedrals took five to seven generations of stone masons to build through famines, through plagues, through crusades where the money was getting taken to go off abroad, massive money from the public and yet this AGENDA to build the cathedrals NEVER CEASED. Never ceased and architects today – trained architects to go over to study these cathedrals in Europe are flabbergasted at the sciences which were used to bring these inner dome vaults et cetera together. I don’t know how many of them, I’m sure the Masonic ones did, but I don’t know how many of them noticed that really these arches within these cathedrals and their big beams and all the rest of it are simply a sculptured form of nature, because it's showing you a grove. These cathedrals inside simulate the tree grove it seems and the ability to put all of this work together, incredible creations, is almost beyond the modern architect and builders societies and so on. They couldn’t do it so well.

We’re living with all of these amazing coincidences and we’re taught at school we’re on the cutting edge of science and civilization and who knows what we’ll discover next that’s going to push us in a great leap forward. When in reality, the sciences that are HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR AT LEAST 500 YEARS AND PROBABLY LONGER.

We look at the explosion of micro-circuitry that first appeared in wristwatches back in the 1970's, which flourished overnight. The markets in all countries were dumped with these cheap watches which were battery operated and kept perfect time, digital readouts and all the rest of it, and played about three or four different tunes et cetera and put the Swiss watch making businesses out of business OVERNIGHT.  I saw many of my friends buying them and what amazed me was none of them were stunned as to where this technology had suddenly come from. They take it for granted. You see, most people take everything that happens for granted. THEY DON’T QUESTION IT.

Most people alive today lived through the BIG TRANSITION of all the major industry in the world over the last 15 years to China and yet very few were conscious of it. They dreamed through it and now they simply think it’s normal that everything is made in China. People don’t really live through their life.

Living means being a sentient being. Sentient is awareness and PEOPLE WHO DON’T ASK QUESTIONS are obviously NOT AWARE; and Plato, jumping back then in non-linear thinking, of course, Plato himself said, "we create culture."

He said we can give opposites–he’s talking about the elite of course in ancient times. He says, "ALL CULTURE COMES FROM THE TOP." Culture that came out from the bottom could upset, have a ripple effect and destroy everything, the unpredictable, you see, so all cultural changes are from the top down; they're permissible and PLANNED BY THE TOP and implemented and of course the people who see the culture changes through generally music according to Plato.

Today it’s much music. Then it was just roving musicians. They had roving troops of drama players and of course he said "people mimic what they see on stage."  The general public generally mimic what they see, the fashions and so on.  Plato said, we can literally change the culture and all of its values in a completely opposite direction within one generation and in that generation there will hardly be one person who was actually conscious through the transition; and that is true today. It’s no different today.

The public go through the transitions WITHOUT NOTICING them, even if the skirt goes from the ankle to halfway up the thigh in one generation. It’s somehow normal and it’s normal because it’s approved from the top, because anything that was not approved from the top, believe you me, would be nipped in the bud before the public even heard about it. If you wonder why pop stars who help bring in the drugs, sex, rock-n-roll, which eventually destroyed what was left of the family, were getting knighted by the Queen.

You know the Beatles "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," LSD, who turned on millions of people into drugs got KNIGHTED for helping what? What did they help in the system?  What we know is of course that they had to destroy the remnants of the family unit by creating promiscuity, which they’d planned in the 1800's.

H.G. Wells was promoting "Free Love" they called it in 1885. Free love—but they didn’t have the contraceptives and the fallout was disastrous, so they went back to the drawing board and had all the scientists work on the contraceptive pill, so they put that out forward with the National Health Service, which gave you free abortion and penicillin for the diseases, and we applied it, using music, the traditional Plato thing, you see. Fashion, the mini-skirt and formulas. These are simple formulas and they worked very well. The public didn’t notice the change. They never thought why did it come this way. Where does fashion come from? Who authorizes fashion?  And fashion remember means "to shape," so it’s Masonic you see as everything else in this world is.

Uniform as I say–people in uniform are "one form" and that’s why armies have been created for thousands of years and once again you’ve got many acting as one. They’re drawn from the ranks of the people at the bottom. "Drilled," just like miners in a sense, because that’s where drilling comes from. Square bashing – it’s Masonic so they walk the square. The drill on the square and they are "one form" when they are ready and they’ll do whatever they’re told, even if it means going and bashing the parents on the skulls with the butt of the guns, they will do it, because all of this is done before down through history.  Here is this music coming, so I guess the time is growing to a head. Well, I’ll end with that rant and it’s been pleasure to talk to you. It’s non-linear thinking, which I enjoy of course.

Alan Watt: Hello, this is Alan Watt here, standing in for Darren.  He's taking his wife out tonight, for the Valentine's dinner.  And he phoned me up this evening to stand in.  There's been no music, because I didn't know that Darren plays it, generally.  I thought it was automatically coming on the radio.

And today is the 14th of February 2006.  And I had no major topic to talk about today, except, perhaps, to put some of the tremendous finger-pointing that goes on between who's behind this move towards the Great Society, as they call it, that is being created gradually, down through the last many centuries, actually.  Who's behind this.  And who's right and who's wrong when it comes to all the finger-pointing between different groups.  And, the thing is, if you check into the material, the written materials of every group, and follow what they say, and the documentation that they have, you can check out yourself, and say, my God, they're all right.  Every one of these sides with their documentation tends to make you think they're right.  Well, how can they all be right?  And the facts do all check out.  You'll find characters on every side of this affair, who did make certain statements, who did make policies, who did decide to make major moves within the world, and it's all well documented.  And yet, they're all doing it.  And it isn't until you understand the big picture.

You have to get above the world, and look down here, to see the big picture, to understand that all of these groups, at the top, are led by the same high, occult society.  The top members know each other.  They're all brothers, high brothers.  The idea of a pyramid that appears in so many of their emblems, is that, you cannot see, if you're on one side of a pyramid, how many other sides there are.  You can't see them.  Only the guy at the top, on the capstone, can look down on all sides.  And then, remember, there's another side, which you don't see, which is the base.  So there's actually five sides to the pyramid.  So only the guy at the top knows all the secrets.  And Masonry is a degreed system, where every degree means that you cannot tell the secrets of your new degree, and the new truths as they call them – new truths, because they keep changing the truth as you go up – to the guy beneath you.  So it's a need-to-know basis.

And what you have behind all of this, is an ancient religion, ancient, which really has its basis, apart from an occultic sense, perhaps even a demonic sense, you might say, it has its basis on evolution.  And that's why evolution has been pushed so mightily, openly, since Darwin's day, but this has always been their goal, that ultimately man would evolve.  They call it The Great Leap Forward.  That's the term which they used before World War II, in many of their own publications, Masonic publications.  The Great Leap Forward, but then they didn't say how it would happen, you see.  And since nothing, as far as we can tell, evolves by itself in nature, they meant that man, because this is their religion, and they count themselves, by the way, as man.  Not everyone is man.  There's man, and then there's the 'its' you see.  And they believe that through their own will and intellect, by using science, they will self-become a new creation.  A god you might say.  Self-becoming God.  And this symbol has been used from ancient times of the god that's born out of the head of Zeus, self-willed, and born without the aid of any god.  This is what it means, and they call it becoming.  Many terms for the same thing.

And so, back in the 1800s, many of the writers were picked by the fledgling Royal Institute of International Affairs, which is the British version and Commonwealth version of the CFR, paid writers to go out into the world, and write novels about the coming system.  And this is called predictive programming, through fiction.  And it works very, very successfully.  Actually more successfully than straight, dry, boring non-fiction books, because no one, when you're watching a movie or reading a book of fiction, your censor part of the mind of your brain is down.  And when that happens, you're being downloaded, really.  You're being led along a path using emotion.  And that's emotive imprinting, they call it.  And through emotion, they can make you desire or want or feel good towards or against anything, through a fictional story.  And you're being shown, in a sense, the future, that they're going to bring to you.  And once the movie or the book is finished, you think you've put it away and that's that.  But no, you've been familiarized now with the possibility of this particular story or sci-fi, or whatever.  And so when you see it manifest in your own life, and the beginnings of the manifestation, because it's familiar to you, you think, well, I guess that's just the natural way we're evolving.  We're evolving this way.  Society is just evolving.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

History, as it's written and presented in most school books, seems to be simply a conglomerate of guys scattered across the planet, who suddenly have too many hormones and decide to go off with armies and become an Emperor by slaughtering other people.  And that's further from the truth too.  Nothing could be more far from the truth.  From 4,500 B.C., at least, there's been this move, stage by stage, of what they call bringing civilization – now they call it democracy, but it's the same thing – a system of money, debt, standing armies, a society where experts run everything.  They've been bringing this gradually forward, down through the centuries, up to the present, and with every area they take over, they call it an expanded empire.  So war has helped to bring an expanded empire which destroys existing cultures and standardizes the people into the one culture.  So they're standardizing, down through the centuries, until we get to the stage today where the United States of America, which was created and founded to bring in the Novus Ordo Seclorum, The New World Order, is finishing off its job.

And that was referred to by all the founding fathers as Manifest Destiny.  In many of the old books by the founding fathers and some of the first generation after them, they referred to this all the time, in their publications, as Manifest Destiny.  It was never fully explained, obviously, to the public, but now we're seeing what it is.  Not only are we seeing it, we're having it explained to us by people like Brzezinski.  You'll see it in the New American Century club, the little club formed by Wolfowitz and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Bush and so on, before 9/11 happened, where they listed the coming wars, which they would have to do, they said, to maintain control of the world, beginning with Afghanistan, next into Iraq, then in Iran, then Syria.  They published this first in the early '90s, and it's available to the public.  And then they republished it and updated it in '98, and lo and behold, in 2001, we find that they have the very thing they needed to stimulate the American people, as Brzezinski said in his book, published in '97, The Grand Chessboard.  “We will need something of a Pearl Harbor event to motivate the American public behind us for the war.”

Now, how many people can make wish lists like this for Santa Claus?  Or win the lotto, just knowing you're going to win it?  These guys write what they're going to do, an event happens, right on cue, when they need it, ten years exactly to the date, where George Bush Sr. talked about the coming New World Order, the Big Idea.  The Masonic term, the Big Idea, you see.  That was on September 11th, 1990 and repeated in 1991.  So, I don't need to go over and over the events of 9/11 to convince myself what happened here.  You have to carry on from there and see what's evolved since then, because the push is now on for the US to fulfill its supposed Manifest Destiny, that which it was created to do.

It should also be understood that prior to America having the Revolution, Britain in other countries, France and some of the Germanic and Prussian countries, had their own international meetings to discuss who would bring in this system.  And they realized that none of them could be chosen, because every one of them was known by the rest of the world as an empire builder and a plunderer, basically.  So they had to create a new shining knight, that claimed “I'm different.  I'm honest.  And I'm all for the people,” you see.  And so the U.S. was born.  And it was born by a bunch of Masons, who got inside a big building, locked the doors, had guards on the doors, to keep the profane, you know, the masses out, and came out with this draft, which has been waved and waved and waved ever since, to justify everything under the sun.  From persecuting the average American today, to going off to foreign wars yesterday.  It's the same thing, it goes both ways.  And when they said this is for our posterity, written in the bill, they're talking about their own offspring.  Their own offspring, you see, the Mason's offspring, the same families.

So we're living under a very old plan, an ancient plan, which believes in evolution.  And evolution to them goes back to the mystery religions of ancient times, where they studied nature.  And they said, you cannot have an action without an equal and opposite reaction.  A law of science.  And they studied the seasons, and they used to say that summer battled winter, and spring would battle fall, and so on.  In other words, to get change, which always comes – a law of nature is change in the seasons of nature – then you must create sides to get the changes to occur.  In a human society, that means perpetual, ongoing war.  War and conflict.  And from the conflict, you get the resolution.  And that starts right back again as your thesis.  You create an opposition to it, its antithesis; and then you have another outcome, synthesis.  And it repeats itself from the synthesis back to the new thesis.  And on and on it goes.  This was taught widely in all the Communist schools in the Soviet Union, and Lenin and many other Communists wrote copiously on this very technique.  But it isn't a Communist thing – they used it – it's everybody's thing.

All the Masons use it in every country.  The Jesuits use it, because they're part of Freemasonry.  Isis with a thousand faces.  That's what they used to call it in Babylon.  It was the same church, with a thousand faces.  And even then it was a mystery, because people had a hard time pointing out who was behind things.  “Oh, it's that priest here.  No, it's the priests over there.  No, it's those ones down south.”  It's the same today.  The guys who lead these people at the top of every group are the same brotherhood, and they know the agenda.  The ones down below on the lower orders have had real wars between themselves, down through the ages, because there must be real bloody conflict, to convince the people.  They must have conflict.  And that's what they call the law of nature, which through struggle, and Hitler used the same term, Mein Kampf, My Struggle, because he believed in it too.  And I'm sure he was put there too by the same oligarchy, to do his bit.  Through struggle, they would evolve into Super-man.  And that's the key to it, is Super-man.

So we find with the founders of the Fabian Society, with the Webbs, and H.G. Wells, and Lord Bertrand Russell, and many of the elite, because the elite created the so-called far left wing Fabian society, and it was given a British Royal Charter to exist.  So you find that these people, actually, when they were quizzed about the future for the working man, “are you for the working man?  Is that what this society is for?” Mr. Webb piped up, along with Beatrice, her name was Beatrice Potter by the way, her maiden name.  And he said, oh goodness, no, he says, the masses can't decide for themselves.  He says, the society we envisage is a world to be run by scientific experts.  And different categories of scientific experts to do with school, and psychology and so on and so on, you see.  That's the true meaning of the far-left wing.  It's nothing to do with the working person, any more than Communism had to do with the average peasant in Russia.  At the end of the Soviet system, comparative standards of living of the bureaucracies living in the Soviet Bloc were on equal par with the bureaucracies of Britain and America.  So much for the working man.

So, the United States, as I say, was born for this Manifest Destiny.  One of their own Masons, who was a spokesman for pushing this agenda, was Manly Palmer Hall.  And he put a book out called, America's Secret Destiny, a Masonic book.  And he outlined the agenda, same thing, again, this why America is born.  That's why you've got the Washington phallus there.  It's an Egyptian obelisk.  The first brand new one to be built, on that scale, to raise Washington up to godhood.  That's what that is for.  He was raised to godhood by the Masons for his work, for his great work.  Whereas Britain imported one of the ones from Heliopolis in Egypt and put it in front of all their banks, you see.  And there's one in the park in New York, from Egypt.  And there's one in front of the Parliament of France, imported from Egypt.  And then there's the other one, in front of the Pope's window, in St. Peter's Square, from Egypt, brought by Constantine's son into the circus, and then moved around the 1500s to the Vatican Square.

We're looking at a religion that uses the same symbols, down through the eons.  It manages every traditional religion.  It makes sure that the top guys who run religions, and that's the duty of organization, there's always a tiered structure of control, so it's easy to put your own men at the top and keep control, you see.  That's why organized anything is rather dangerous.  And so they give you your passive religion to keep you as sheep, dull, stupid, and munching on the grass, and obeying, and not thinking, while they pretend they're the good shepherds and they're managing everything.  They are the scientific elite.  They are the experts.  That's what they're there for.  Don't have to worry about anything.  If the news comes on, they'll tell me all I need to know.  And they will tell you all you need to know.

The media is one of the most important arms of government.  We have a media that will not even mention the spraying in the skies that's happening every day across a good part of the planet.  If they won't tell you that, if they won't talk about it, why on earth would you expect them to tell you the truth about anything?

So, H.G. Wells, getting back to this predictive programming and the novels that they were paid to write, and put into our minds, as a sort of natural evolution to come, you see.  H.G. Wells wrote a book, and he used the preface of the speech that he gave to the Royal Institute of International Affairs in 1936.  And he called this, his lecture, The Concept of a World Encyclopedia.  If you remember in the French Revolution, the high Masons who took over called themselves the Encyclopedists.  So here's Wells, in 1936, talking about the concept of a World Encyclopedia.

"At the first realization of the ineffectiveness of our best thought and knowledge struck only for a few people, like Mr. Maynard Keynes, for example.  It is science, and not men of science that we want to enlighten and animate in our politics and rule the world."

(Alan: And rule the world.  And rule the world.  That's for the hard of hearing.)

"Wells basically reiterated the doctrine of scientism in his speech." (A:  To continue.) "I want to suggest that something, a new social organization, a new institution, which for a time I shall call World Encyclopedia.  This World Encyclopedia would be the mental background of every intelligent man in the world.  Such an Encyclopedia would play the role of an undogmatic bible to the world culture."  (A: To the world culture.) "It would do just what our scattered and disorientated, intellectual organizations of today fall short of doing.  It would hold the world together, mentally."  (A:  Now, remember that.) " It would hold the world together, mentally.  It would compel men to come to terms with one another" (A: Compel, you see.  Compel men.  That means force, you see, to come together.)  "It is a superior university I am thinking of, a world brain."  (A: A world brain.  I wonder if anyone's having pictures in their minds right now of what that could mean. He said:) "A world brain, no less.  Ultimately, if our dream is realized, it must exert a very great influence upon every one who controls administration, makes wars, directs mass behavior, feeds, moves, starves, and kills populations.  You see how such an Encyclopedic Organization could spread like a nervous network."  (A: Got little pictures in your head now?  Nervous network.  A sort of web, perhaps?)  "A system of mental control about the globe.  Knitting all the intellectual workers of the world through a common interest and cooperating unity, and a growing sense of their own dignity.  And forming without pressure or propaganda, directing without tyranny."

That's from H.G. Wells, his presentation to the Royal Institute of International Affairs, 1936.  Now, what does he mean by a World Encyclopedia?  And I'm sure if I had a second line, I'd have callers, I'd hope I'd have callers saying, well, are they talking about computers here.  Perhaps.  Or maybe supercomputers, maybe a web, as he calls it a nervous system.  So, if we add this statement.  And remember, we're living in the past.  Level one reality is antique.  All technology that we have is antique at this level.  Whatever we're given as the latest is obsolete at the top.

Now, here's from journalist Nathan Cochrane.  And this comes, actually from, he has a website, I believe.  I got it from a book, actually.  And he's got a long, long website, if I can find it, if anyone wants to check it.  It's http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/20/1026898931815.html  and that was posted July 23rd, 2002.  The article was called:

US Reports tell of Brave New World
by Nathan Cochrane

(A: And here it is)

A draft government report says we will alter human evolution within 20 years by combining what we know of nanotechnology, biotechnology, integrated technology (IT) and cognitive sciences. The 405-page report sponsored by the US National Science Foundation and Commerce Department, Converging Technologies for Improving Human Performance, calls for a broad-based research program to improve human performance leading to (A: Listen to this) telepathy, (A: They're talking about having a chip in your brain, if you haven't caught on.) machine-to-human communication, amplified personal sensory devices and enhanced intellectual capacity.

(A: That's from Cochrane's report, page 1, 2002.  To carry on with the second part of the same article:)

People may download their consciousnesses into computers or other bodies even on the other side of the solar system, or participate in a giant "hive mind", (A: A giant hive mind.  Is that the Borg, perhaps?) a network of intelligences connected through ultra-fast communications networks. "With knowledge no longer encapsulated in individuals, the distinction between individuals and the entirety of humanity would blur,"  (A: The distinction between individuals and the entirety of humanity would blur.)  the report says. "Think Vulcan mind-meld. We would perhaps become more of a hive mind - an enormous, single, intelligent entity."

(A: That report that he gave out, finishes with, it says:)

The report says the abilities are within our grasp but will require an intense public-relations effort to "prepare key organizations and societal activities for the changes made possible by converging technologies", and to counter concern over "ethical, legal and moral" issues.  (A: Now, listen to that, again.) to counter concern over "ethical, legal and moral" issues.  (A: You see, they've already got the propaganda techniques working, already, since that meeting, through movies, through cartoons even, to make this a positive thing to go for.)  Education should be overhauled down to the primary-school level to bridge curriculum gaps between disparate subject areas.

It's the half time.  Well, we won't have music tonight, but you're listening to Alan Watt on Sweet Liberty, standing in for Darren, who's off tonight.  And I'm reading some articles here about the scientific dictatorship basically, which we're under today, which is actually an ancient religion, simply coming into manifestation, as they see their end goal in sight.

Now, Zbigniew Brzezinski who has been an advisor to, I don't know how many Presidents, he was there even with Carter, and he's still there.  And he's on television quite regularly.  His area seems to be mind control and national security.

Hello, this is Alan here again.  I'm back on the air.  And of course, there's no one to play the music tonight, because Darren is gone for the night.  So, I'll continue with Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was President Carter's National Security advisor.  And he's still advising the present bunch along with Kissinger and so on.  He wrote a book in 1997, which sort of backed up the New American Century publication, of their agenda.  And he said in this book, The Grand Chessboard.

"The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a non-Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter of Eurasian power relations but also as the world's paramount power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first truly global power."

Alan: Hello?

Jeff: Oh, yes.  This is Jeff calling from Chelsea Massachusetts.  How's it going?

Alan: I can barely hear you.

Jeff: Oh, really?  Now, as far as global politics is concerned, what the United States has to do to be sovereign again, is to eliminate our treaties as far as NAFTA, GATT, and the FTAA, which is coming up, all these treaties.  When we do that, we can truly become a sovereign country, again.  But if we don't, then we'll be, like you said, a globalist power.  It's just that simple.

Alan: Okay. If you can hang up now, I'll reply.  Okay?

Jeff: Okay, I'll hang up.

Alan: Yes, well, that really wouldn't make much of a difference to be honest, because, see, everything which you think is normal in your life has been planned that way.  It didn't evolve that way.  Including the founding of the United States in the first place.  And all the things that you hold near and dear, with the flags and the songs and all the usual stuff is actually called culture creation, which you can read about.  It's actually a science.  You can read about it as far back as Plato, who wrote about it, and how they create cultures for the people.  Culture never comes from the grass roots.  It comes from the top down.  It's authorized to be there, you see.  Anything.  Control freaks who have total control, never allow anything to come up truly from the grassroots and survive, because something outside of their plan, no matter how innocent it may be, could have such unforeseen ripple effects, it could cause chaos to them.  So, the US did not become. What stage of America would you want to go back to?  When FDR ruled with his version of the bank and the debt system?  Would you want to go back to the depression?  Would you want to go back to two or three depressions they had in the 1800s, when Morgan and all the bunch got together and sank the economy and looted it?  Looted all the pensions, three times in ten years.  What part of America do you want to go back to?  You see, it's always been run by the same people, the robber barons.  They're pirates.  That's their symbol, the skull and bones.  That's the symbol of Masonry.  So you can never go back to something which was artificial to begin with.  Right after you got the constitution and the hoorays, you had the Treaty of Paris.  Well, go and check into that and see what the U.S. signed away.  Look at the first law they passed, supposedly to fight taxation from Britain, they passed the Whiskey Laws, and then got a little army up to go and slaughter all the guys who were making their whiskey.  It's the same system under a new face.  Better disguised, but the same system.  So you can't go back.  There's a movie called Hollywoodism.  It's put out by Hollywood producers, and it's subtitled how we created American culture.  Get a hold of it.  And get it from the horse's mouth.  It's been the same in every country.  The same technique has been used for thousands of years.  Well documented on how it's done, by Plato.

So, I'll get back to Zbigniew Brzezinski.  He talks about this global superpower, the first truly global power.  You see, the rest of them, they called the Roman Empire, etc.  Which was a huge empire, but in a sense it wasn't right round the whole world.  This one here is to be round the whole world.  The standardization of one system.  And if you remember, the symbols of knights, because the high knights are the guys who are in charge of this on all sides.  And they have a flag, which they call a standard.  And they plant the standard in a field before the battle.  And when they win a battle, then that standard, that symbol of the standard is spread over the conquered land.  They standardize everything and everywhere they go.  Standardization.  That's it.  The one system.  And this has been going on for so, so long. So, yeah, Brzezinski knew it was coming.  He was in on the planning of this.  And he also basically said, it could only be held together by global scientific dictatorship, a world of experts, elite experts, to run the people.

If we fall back to Charles Galton Darwin's book, the physicist, the grandson of Charles Darwin, who wrote the book, The Next Million Years in 1954 or '56.  He said the same thing there, that the elite themselves will not alter themselves physically, meaning, they won't take a chip, you see, or have the nasty inoculations, and eat the modified food and so on.  He said, they must retain their survival capabilities, because the elite will be steering the ship of earth.  The masses won't need theirs, because the state will be making all their decisions for them.  So, keep that in mind when you read what they talk about this universal consciousness, this telepathic hive mind which they talk about.

This is the same Rosicrucian term that was used by John Dee and Francis Bacon in the 1500s, the Universal Mind, the One.  We'll all be one.  Now think of the Borg from the Star Trek series, and it's exactly the same.  The Borg ship is called the Hive.  All of the cyborgs, part human, part machine, are connected with little chips, to a central computer in the ship, the hive and they hear each other's whispers going through.  And they show you right there.  They show you when some are caught and captured and asked about themselves, they couldn't react as an individual.  They said "we."  They always referred to themselves as "we," because you cannot be an individual and be totally connected at the same time.

This particular article from Cochrane, was held in Loyola University.  And there was 600 pages, came out at the University level, and they took 250 pages away for the public.  However, I've got a copy of the original.  And they said the chip is ready to go, all we must do is convince the public to accept it.  This will be done, they continue.  This will be done by promotion through movies, science fiction and cartoons, even taught in kindergarten as a wonderful thing to come, in school.  And going through all these pages, 600 pages of all these top scientists and Newt Gingrich led off the meeting by the way, paid for by your tax money.  The scientists said that they'll promote it, making it a desirable thing for children.  Children will want what they think are superpowers, like their comic characters, their cartoon characters, or Spider-Man or whatever.  They'll think it's going to give them special powers, so that's how they're going to promote it to them.  However that same meeting said that supercomputers, Cray supercomputers, are already set up in every region, that's the term they love to use, region, across the United States and Canada.  And when everyone has the chip, the real function will kick in.  And literally, there will be no more individuality.  They said it would be impossible for anyone to even perceive of themselves as a distinct separate "I", individual.

So, the card, of course, the Identification Card, which is coming in 2007.  It's already being given out at the border at the moment for $2, so if you rush now, you get it at the deal of $2 you see.  This is how they're promoting it, for frequent cross-border shoppers.  And it has an active ID chip in it.  It has your iris scan.  It has your DNA sample and your code in there.  It has a digital photograph of you.  This has your medical history.  It's eventually to be used the same way, it's the same as the British card, and they've admitted there that it will eventually be your sole bank and credit card for the cashless society.  So, once people accept that, and I can't see any reason why they won't, because there's enough people rushing to get the 'buy now at $2 while you can, prices won't last', there's enough of them lining up, like idiots, right now, so I can't see it being much of a problem for most people taking it.

The masses have never really been a problem for the elite who run the world.  The reason for the brain chip really isn't for the masses.  They're not worried about them so much.  This is an attack on the individual thinker.  That's who they must get.  That's their Achilles heel.  They're terrified of the individual thinker.  So everyone is going to get chipped by law.  And once the card is out there and everyone has one, you'll see such a spate of robberies and muggings to get the card.  It will go on for year or two at the most, until we're sick of hearing it, night after night on the media, and lo and behold, they'll come forward and say, well, we've got the solution right here.  And it's called the chip, by the way, because that's the Masonic term, as they go round the block, as they call it, the big Ashlar, the little altar in the middle.  It's a chip off the old block.  That's their little sarcastic joke, on you.

This is a religion behind this.  A religion that they claim was born, at least the Great Work plan was born, 4,500 BC.  And step by step, generation by generation, conquest by conquest, they've been taking over and taking over until there's a world empire, a global world empire, run by an elite, who will have their brains intact, their individuality intact.  They'll have life extension and all that kind of stuff, which the rest won't have, while everyone else, they'll be a Borg.  A happy little Borg, you see.  In fact, you can't really be happy or unhappy, because you won't know what that is.  And you won't know, even if you were unhappy, you couldn't even form the words that "I am unhappy".  There will be no more you.  And they can literally reprogram you, every day, to do the different tasks.  You could be working in a pig sty, mucking a barn somewhere, one day, and helping to erect a skyscraper the next.  It won't matter to you.  And that's the universal one, the universal consciousness that they've pushed through the New Age Movement, for years steadily, to get them all to go for this idea.  Oh, we're all One.  UN is the French word, un, for one.  What a coincidence, eh?

So this is where it's all heading.  Planned long before I was born, long before every one of you was born.  And they knew they had the technology a long time ago to bring it off, because these guys did not claim to use crystal balls.  The high levels of science is never known to the public.  At the low level of science, which is everything from the media, to the scientific magazines, from professorships down, that's the lowest bottom, antique level of science.  Physics, chemistry, biology, etc.  That's the lowest level.  And the magazines that they churn out there, which make you think that this is the latest, or they're just working towards this, that's rubbish.  It's called research, because it's re-search.  The search has already been done before.  Why else would you call it research?

That's the key to this agenda here, the new man to come.  The thousand years of peace, you see, when you're all chipped.  And no one can cause any problems.  They won't need the media.  They won't need all the sports teams.  They won't need all the sports commentators to amuse us and pass our time for us, so as we don't sit and think for ourselves.  My god, that would not do, no they won't need that anymore.  It will be one nice silent, humming, buzzing little world.  A quiet hum from the massive universal hive, the Borg ship.  And the Borg ship, of course, as you see in the Star Trek movies, is the New Jerusalem.  It's the square, it's a square ship.  It's a cube, like a sugar cube.  The hive.  It's the ashlar, the perfectly squared stone.  Taken from the natural roundness and squared, perfectly.  That's what it is, it's all High Freemasonry.  And they throw it in our face, and we pop bubblegum and chew and pop the popcorn, and say, "well, that was a good movie.  What's next?  Yawn."  Because people today have a terrible time thinking for themselves.

Brzezinski in The Grand Chessboard and in previous books, has told us, in fact, one of his previous books, he mentioned that shortly the time will come when the average individual will be unable to think for themselves.  They'll only be able to repeat what they've been downloaded with by the previous day's news.  And we're seeing that today.  People today can't see the trails above their head, and the planes making the mess in the sky.  The reason for it is, they truly believe the media is doing their thinking for them. They've given over the right to think and perceive and conclude for themselves.  They've given it over to the media.  So, if the media doesn't mention it, it can't be true.  I see it, but it can't be true.  So, I'll take the media's version, it can't be true.  Ancient trickery.  It was used by priests, in ancient times, the same technique.  Get between the organ of perception and in between the brain to the conclusion, and you can warp it completely.  And this is a science which has been understood for thousands of years.

Look at the symbols in the United States.  Look at the symbol of Washington's biggest erection.  And look what it comes over.  It comes over the long pool of water below.  Because the erection, which gives off the spirit of life, the semen, the fire from the top, that's how it's often symbolized.  The one they put up after they killed Kennedy, actually has a simulated flame on top of it, and again, with a pool of water to reflect it, because that's the male and the female.  The female is water, who could only reflect the light off her husband, you see.  Because, according to them, women have no soul; their gift was given to them to reproduce their own kind, so they were called mother, and matter, and mortar.  Same thing.  But these characters, these creeps, with the rather exaggerated phallic symbols, mean business.  And they have their symbols all around you, right to the oval office; that shadow is cast from that huge you know what, the egg, the cosmic egg.  The egg where all things are birthed.  Ideas, the Big Idea of Bush Sr.

All sides at the top are in on this plan.  All sides.  The Zionists at the top are in on it.  Because, when you join the high noble orders, your new family is the international brotherhood of the elite.  You leave your old family, your old kind behind.  You might still walk around as the head of a church or whatever, or an organization, but your other face is reserved for your true brotherhood, the international ones.  You've been ascended up the ladder into godhood.  So, as they go toward this goal, we watch the death rate climbing through diseases, brand new diseases.  One in two will have cancer they say, my God, we just don't understand it, and they don't seem terribly bothered about it, either.  It's caused, you see, through the inoculations, it's preprogrammed through inoculations.  Dr. Salk, from the vaccine, the polio vaccine movement said that himself.  He said, yes, there were live simian viruses there, the Simian 40 virus causes cancer.  That's its only function.

So, we have these monsters guiding us, the good shepherds, with their white coats on, smiling at us, doing exactly what Toynbee said, the Professor from Oxford who taught Rhodes Scholars and gave lectures to the international revolutionary committees.  He says, we always deny with our mouths what we do with our hands.  And they're still doing it.  They smile and they lie, as they actually do what we suspect they're doing.  That's the good shepherd.  If he was a bad shepherd, we'd know what he was up to.  He'd give it away.  But these guys can smile, and talk nicely to us, and dress in their Masonic suits and ties, with their little tow-rope round their neck called a necktie.  That's the Masonic outfit.  That's his limit, you see.  That's as far as he can go.  And they run this system.

And they hide behind cloaks of charity at the bottom.  Albert Pike himself said those at the bottom are the outer portico.  They're basically no different than the profane.  He said, it's not necessary they understand the rituals they've been through, or the symbols they've been shown, it's only necessary that they think they understand them.  And so they're a good outer cover for charity work and a self-help group, a self-improvement group, you know, that type of thing.

Well, I've got five minutes left, so I should mention that for the listeners, I've been on a couple of shows since I've been on here last.  And I've been on with Hehpsehboah, who's got Eye on the Future.  That's the internet site from Vancouver.  Eye on the Future with Hehpsehboah.  And I'm on with her again on March the 5th, and March the 12th, and I may have some other ones coming up too.  I was also on The Edge with Daniel Ott, and that is available from Daniel Ott's website, TheEdgeAM.com.  You can download that for free at the moment.  And you can also look into my website, Cutting Through the Matrix at  cuttingthroughthematrix.com. And there's material on there which you can also download for free.  For those who want the books I've written up explaining some of this occult Masonry, and the symbology behind it, the ritualism behind it, including how your language is encoded, you can get them as well, if you contact the website or you contact me.  And I'll get them out as soon as possible.  That's the one-minute bell up and I thank you for tuning in, and listening to me on Sweet Liberty tonight.  Thank You.

Jackie Patru: Alan Watt is with us tonight, folks.  And Alan, thanks again for being here tonight.

Alan Watt: Greetings from the frozen North.

Jackie: (Laughter) Greetings from the frozen North.  Okay.  We’re not talking to Santa Claus, right?

Alan: No, it’s just the guy who chases the minks out his door.

Jackie: So, how are you, Alan?

Alan: Oh, not so bad, really.

Jackie: Not so bad.  We were talking, I guess it was this past week, one evening, and we got to talking about this country, the US of A, and how we were all here.  We were all born into this, of course, so we believed it.  And no matter what goes on around us.  No, not we.  I shouldn’t say that.  Because, there are those of us who are waking up to it, but for so long, and you’ll still hear people say, well, it might not be the greatest, but it’s still the greatest country in the world.  You know, we have liberty, we have a constitution, and if you don’t like it, if you say anything, then a lot of people will say, well, if you don’t like it, why don’t you just leave.  And what we were talking about Alan, is right from the get-go, the people who came over here.  And I would like for you to expand upon that tonight, the indentured servants that came over here, Alan.

Alan: Well, I was going to say first off the bat, it’s nothing to do with false teeth.  It’s a law, you see, that they indentured servants.

Jackie: It has nothing to do with what?

Alan: Nothing to do with false teeth.

Jackie: Oh. (Laughter)

Alan: You see, it’s all to do with these laws that they passed back in Britain, when they had the Americas and they wanted to populate it with British subjects.  And it’s an odd state of affair, when you can be a serf, which is a slave, really.  You’re bought and sold with the land.  Or you can be charged with a crime, and that’s how basically they got this thing off the go.  At one time England only had judges authorized by the high court to try cases, but they needed a lot more men to do these cases for all the new laws they were going to bring in, because they had to pass laws to make sure that they had enough people or criminals, that they could send abroad to populate the Americas.  So everything became a crime.  They dumped all the peasants off of the land, their common land, it was called, where they could grow their own vegetables, in between working for their masters.  And they threw them off their land into the big cities, to start up the industrial era, which was planned hundreds of years prior to that.  John Dee writes about it in the 1500s.

Jackie: Did he call it the industrial era?

Alan: He talked about an era where technology and machines, he said, would rise and bring Britain up to an empire.  He coined the term the British Empire, which was to be a world empire.

Jackie: Who was John Dee?

Alan: He was an advisor to the court of Queen Elizabeth I and he was also a foreign ambassador to different countries.  And he was also a spy for Queen Elizabeth I.  And his number was 007.

Jackie: Oh, come on.

Alan: Seriously.  That’s how he signed his letters to the Queen.

Jackie: 007.  Oh, man.

Alan: So everything is in our face.  It’s just a big joke to the public.  Or at least they’re laughing at us, because we have no idea of history.  And if you have no idea of history, you’ll never know how you got to where you are.

Jackie: Oh, exactly.  What is, I don’t mean to, and I’m not going to, what is a mall?  Over there in Britain?  What exactly was a mall?  It wasn’t a shopping place?

Alan: No.

Jackie: What was it, Alan?

Alan: Well, a maul was a type of weapon.

Jackie: No, because I was reading a book about India.  And that was India under the authority of the British East India Company, the government and the company.  Some areas, it was the British government.  In some areas it was the company, I guess.  I mean, they were all one and the same anyway.  But they were talking about a wedding that was taking place, in India, and they were on the mall, it said.

Alan: A mall in that case is the fairway coming into a palace.  It’s like a long street or driveway.  You get the same in London with Pall Mall, they call it.

Jackie: Yeah, Pall Mall.  We had Pall Mall cigarettes here.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: And I thought about that when I read that.  Okay.  Now they call over here, we have shopping malls.

Alan: That’s right.  A strip.  So it would be a strip of land, but it used to be a street, really, leading to a palace or whatever, you know.

Jackie: So, in the 1500s, John Dee talked about the industrial era.

Alan: That’s when they burst out with Rosicrucianism.  The sort of precursor, and it’s still the high Freemasonry in a sense.  And they talked about, he coined the term and gave it to the Queen, to call it, he called it the Brytish, B-R-Y-T-I-S-H, Brytish Empire.  And he said, this will stretch across the world.  And of course, it was to be exactly what it is.  It was to be a world run by an elite, a dominant minority with the money and the power and the hereditary lineages, and then a scientific elite underneath them, which would basically be the masters of all the peasantry underneath them.  So, that’s pretty well what we have with the United Nations, and the Rockefeller, all the different foundations that we know, so, yeah, he wrote a lot about the coming Brytish Empire.

Jackie: Was he a Rosicrucianist?

Alan: Yeah.

Jackie: And what is the difference between Rosicrucian, Rosicrucianism and Zoroastrianism?

Alan: Well, Zoroaster was really the precursor of all the religions that we know of.  Coming out with the idea of the war, there’s always a war on the planet between two entities, if you like, or two sides of good and evil.  That’s different again.  It’s a religion in that sense.  Rosicrucianism incorporated reason, you’ll hear that coming across through in history, this thing about reason.  But it also incorporated the religion that went with it, which was Freemasonry, which is more akin to Hinduism than anything.  It’s a caste system.

Jackie: Freemasonry or Rosicrucianism?

Alan: Rosicrucian is Freemasonry.

Jackie: Okay, and Freemasonry is a caste system.

Alan: Yes. See, Masonry has a thousand names.  A thousand names, but they’re all the same.  There’s only one head to the pyramid, one capstone.

Jackie: When you say that, are you talking about all the different secret societies?

Alan: All of them.

Jackie: Skull and Bones, and...

Alan: They’re only a higher order of the same society.

Jackie: They’re a higher order?

Alan: You find if you go, those in the Ivy League schools, such as Yale and Princeton, and of course in England they’ve got Cambridge and Oxford, these are traditional old families that go there.  And they are really a noble order, so they’re a higher order.

Jackie: What was the one that Clinton was in?  It wasn’t Skull and Bones, but there was another one, kind of the counterpart to Skull and Bones.

Alan: Well, he did go to, he was sent off to Oxford in England, as a Rhodes scholar.  And there he became initiated into the Oxford Circle, they call it.

Jackie: There’s a name for it though, except I can’t remember it.  I don’t think it had.  It seemed to me it had something to do with Dog, but maybe it doesn’t.  Maybe I’m thinking of dog and pony show.  Zoroastrianism, was that Zarathustra, the one that started that?

Alan: That’s what is claimed.

Jackie: And Zoroastrianism is not the same as Rosicrucianism.

Alan: No.  At least the old Zoroastrianism wasn’t, no.  The original Zoroastrian religion was really an attempt to explain the incredible differences of happiness and sadness, wealth and poverty, cruelty and love that exists within all humanity.  You know, the opposites.  And so they came up with this idea of a conflicting war, to explain why some people are pretty good people, and other ones are just thoroughly evil.  And that really was copied down through the ages by the religions that came afterwards, but perverted too, of course.

Jackie: Okay.  So, getting back to these United States of America.

Alan: Oh, they had to populate it.

Jackie: You made a statement, and I know that was a very broad statement, but you said everything was against the law.  So, obviously they made a lot of pecuniary laws?

Alan: What they did, was for the first time, they made justices of the peace, because they didn’t have enough judges, so they gave lesser members of wealthy families these jobs as justices of the peace.

Jackie: Is that the same as a magistrate?

Alan: That’s right.  And so, they didn’t have to even have any law training at all.  And in Britain, you didn’t get a trial by jury.  You just went up in front of the magistrate or the justice of the peace, and he’d give a wink to the charging officer, and found you guilty of whatever it was, and then you were indentured, which meant you were in servitude for X-amount of years.  So, you were sold off to the Americas, and whoever bought you from the ship that you arrived on, paid a fee to the captain, who took his cut.  And then, when he went back to England, the captain gave it to the magistrate, what was left.  They all took their cuts, right along the line.  It was a slave trade, of course.  And they were white people that were initially sent over.  That’s where the term redneck came from.  Initially they used them in the Caribbean countries, and they used to call them red shanks, initially, because they had the short breeches without socks, you know.  And they’d work in the plantations.  And because the sun was on their back, they’d get the red shanks, the red legs, and then they changed it to red neck.  And that’s where that term came from.

Jackie: Now, there were people, weren’t there people who came over here of their own volition, Alan?

Alan: Oh, there were people who did, but that was really later, you know.

Jackie: Okay, we’re talking very early, huh?

Alan: Early, right through into the 1700s.  I mean, Benjamin Franklin bought his first wife off the ship.  She was an indentured servant.  Many of these guys bought their wives off the ships.

Jackie: Also, you know, that book that I read, the interpretation of the Constitution, Economic Interpretation.  The people that came over here, many people, this would have been later, when they wanted to, you know, really begin to settle the open areas, and they were promised land, remember, Alan.  Well, the guys that were already here, and many of the guys that were in the Constitutional Convention, were landowners.  And they bought up huge, huge, huge of the greatest, best, land.  So when these people came over here, and they were promised land, the land that they were given was crappy land.  And if they wanted land where they were actually going to be able to farm and really homestead, they had to pay a high price for the land.  And then when they, okay, now they’re going to go out west.  Okay?  They’re going to go out there and get some good land.  Well, the land barons just beat them to it.  And they got out there and did the same dog-gone thing out west, Alan.

Alan: Sure.  We’re being farmed, you see.  We truly are being farmed.  You know, like Charles Fort said.  We’re being farmed.

Jackie: What do you mean, being farmed?

Alan: They farm us up for their wars, such as in Britain.  When the Rothschilds took over they started a standing army.  Before that they used mercenary troops.  So, then they brought the redcoats in with the standing army, with the Bank of England funding it, and with the right to tax the people, to keep the standing army.  And then, from then on, it’s one war after another. And so, they were culling off the population, what they thought were the excess, at the same time those soldiers were winning more land for Britain, for London, really, as they were culling off the soldiers.  And of course, the Rothschild companies were supplying all the armaments and clothing, etc.  So, it’s a business.  War is a business for them.  They farm us up to a particular level when they need us, and they also cull us down with disease and so on, when they don’t need us.  Or else, they export us abroad, you see.  And that’s the standard technique, it’s even in the economic books.  That’s the standard technique that’s always been used.

Jackie: Human capital.  Chattel.

Alan: Yeah, and when Rothschild passed the law, he put the bill forward in Parliament, in England.  It was called the Corn Laws.  And what they did, that allowed the European farmers to dump their grain in Britain, and that put all the small holders out of Britain.  And they had to go into the cities, the industrial, the new industrial cities, and work sixteen, seventeen hours a day till they died.  You know, they dropped dead.

Jackie: Say that again.  They allowed them to dump their corn?  Well, who are we talking about, them?

Alan: Well, I said Rothschild.

Jackie: No, no, I mean, who was dumping their corn?

Alan: The European farmers.

Jackie: Were they being paid for it?

Alan: Oh, yeah.  But they were allowed to dump them at cheap prices, and without tariffs.  That was Free Trade, you might say, without tariffs and into Britain, and at such cheap prices.  I mean, it was all orchestrated by the Rothschilds.  And sure enough, all the farmers were suddenly put out of business, and all the farm hands.  And they had to move into the new industrial areas, like Manchester, Birmingham, and so on, where they were, you know, paid pennies per week, and worked sixteen, seventeen hours a day.  The rest were put into the army.  There was no other choice.  And that was, I think even Benjamin Franklin, who was an illuminatist.  There was no problem about it.  He definitely was.  But, because they’re illuminati, they can tell you the truth.  They can tell you both sides of the story, you know.  And Franklin did say that industrialization was the worst form of a system that he’d ever seen.  He said, because he’d witnessed the peasants in Britain, working sixteen hours a day in the factories, walking out of the factories, absolutely tired and staggering, without shoes on their feet, and yet, he was talking about a shoe factory.  They couldn’t even afford the shoes they made.  That’s how poor Great Britain was for the people.

Jackie: For the people.  And that’s how poor that people were who came over here.

Alan: Oh, well, yeah.  And of course, when they started up the indentured servitude, they made so many laws that they were getting thousands a week.

Jackie: And even like the Irish came over during the famine.  They took them right off the boat, and threw them into the big factories, the sweatshops.

Alan: Sure.  And with Ireland too, that was contrived.  Because, the oddest thing is, and it’s the oddest story, it’s never made any sense, is that a ship came in from America, bound to dock in Ireland, and then go on to a port in England.  Half its cargo was to be unloaded in Ireland, and that’s what they claimed, in came the potato fungus, or whatever it was, that started killing off the potatoes.  However, they dumped the other half of the load in England, and nothing happened there, from the same cargo.

Jackie: Why?

Alan: Well, obviously, either somebody introduced something.  These guys were scientists back then too.  They did have a lot of knowledge, and you find that from the 1500s.  But they wanted to move the Irish out.  There’s no doubt.  And Jonathan Swift, who wrote Gulliver’s Travels, and who was a high Freemason, who also, and a little side note here.  Jonathan Swift, who was an elitist and very arrogant, he did say, let the Irish eat their own children.  That’s what he said in Parliament in England.

Jackie: Oh, my God.

Alan: This was a loving thing...

Jackie: And he meant that literally, didn’t he?

Alan: He hated them.  And he was talking about the Irish Catholics, of course.  And the Masons at that time, at least that branch of them, were against the Catholics.  And of course, Swift also in Gulliver’s Travels, wrote a part where Gulliver comes to the island where the horses are very sophisticated and intelligent and aristocratic, and the barbarians are the humans.  Now the humans, he coined the term Yahoo.  The humans who were barbaric were called Yahoos.  And that’s why you have Yahoo on the internet.  It’s for the yahoos.  It’s a Masonic joke on the people.

Jackie: Not only that, but, you know in Immanuel Velikovsky’s book, Worlds in Collision, I highlighted this, because they said that the Earth was like creaking.  And they termed the sound that it was making as Yahoo.  And I thought, oh, my God, and we’ve got the Yahoo search engine.

Alan: That’s right.  And also, that’s what the cowboys were made to say in the movies, is Yahoo, you know.  But they were the base people.  And it’s a Masonic mockery, you see.  Anyway, getting back to the Irish.  People think that the Irish were living on nothing but potatoes, and they don’t realize that the big, big farmers that London had made settle in Ireland, the Protestant type farmers, were the new land lords, basically, had lots of other grain, but the people were not allowed to eat it.  And the Catholic Church really helped, because they came in and told them to obey the laws and just starve to death, and be good little citizens, you know.

Jackie: But while the people were starving over there, they still had to tithe.  And if they had no money, they brought food.

Alan: Yeah, I know.  But it was so, those people, it’s so disgusting...

Jackie: They were living in luxury, Alan.

Alan: I know.  And then of course, they also did the same in Scotland, you know.  And this is how they contrive things, because they run all sides of everything.  They already had the German bunch in as the king and queen of England, the Georges.  And Prince Charlie, of course, the descendant of the Stuart lineage, was over living with the Jesuits in France, and Italy in some cases.  And they brought him back for the rebellion in 1745.  And so, sure enough, he came over to Scotland, and he got a few, just a handful of clans behind him, and he said, we’re going to take over London.  And sure enough, they fought their way right down to London, just a few clans, and they were only 30 miles from Darby.  London was being evacuated by the elite.  They thought they’d had it.  And then Charlie changed his mind and went back.  That’s when you know that...

Jackie: He went back where?

Alan: To Scotland.  So, here he was within reach of claiming London and he turns back.  He took the men up to the loneliest bog in Scotland, the north of Scotland, and he went to Culloden House, the big mansion that was a few miles away, spent the night there eating and feasting, and in the morning the Scots woke up with the British, the whole British army, with the Scots lowland regiments too, all lined up with cannon and everything against them.  On an April morning, with freezing rain in their faces, and they stood there for four and a half hours solid, waiting for the order to charge, as they were getting shot down with grapeshot.  And Charlie never told them to charge.  And the reason was, Charlie had vamoosed.  He’d gone.  He never arrived on the battlefield.  He went straight over to the Island of Skye and then they had a ship waiting that took him back to France.  But they used that excuse of a rebellion to clear the highlands of millions of people.  And sure enough, that’s what they did.  In came the redcoats, they cleared the highlands.  They got every dirty little old tub that could float, or just about float, and they pressed all these people on, set them off for America, and many of them sunk within sight of the coastline, and their relatives could watch them all going under.  And this is how they populated America.  This is the real history.

Jackie: Oh, yes.  And then it just goes on and on and on, too, because recently I watched a movie, I think it was called Matewan, and it was in Maitwan, Virginia.  I might be saying the name wrong, but it was the coal miners, Alan.  And it was a very well made movie.  And, basically, what it showed was the control.  They went in there.  They took the people off the land, the coal companies, and confiscated their land, and then pressed them into service into the coal mines.  And there were seven and eight-year-old children in there.  This was early 1900s, Alan.

Alan: I know some guys who told me this.  They saw it happen.

Jackie: That’s right.  And, you know, I remember Tennessee Ernie Ford’s song, Sixteen Tons.  It never meant anything to me, because we weren’t taught this in history.  But it was, you know, "you load sixteen tons and what do you get?  Another day older and deeper in debt."

Alan: That’s right, because it was company towns.

Jackie: "Peter don’t you call me, because I can’t go.  I owe my soul to the company store."  And when they hired these people, they lived in company housing, and had to pay rent for it.

Alan: And a company store.

Jackie: Even their tools.  The company fronted them their tools, and took it out of their pay.  Everything.  They went on strike.  And they finally, in this movie, and in this particular situation, and I don’t remember the exact date, but they prevailed.  About five years later, and this is in the Encyclopedia, when it tells about it, five years later, same place.  They struck again.  They went on strike.  And the government, the federal government brought troops in, shot them, Alan.  Coal miners working for a private company, and the federal government brought troops in and shot them.  You know, I’ve lived for so long with this dream of America in my heart.  And this was one of the reasons I did want to talk about this tonight, because it’s time we give up the dream.  It’s never been a dream, it’s a nightmare.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: It is truly a nightmare.  We’re going to have to take a break here.

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Jackie: Alright, we’re back folks.  ...The address to his website is cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  And Alan has three books.  If you haven’t, I’ve heard from so many of you, and when you call or when you write, you almost never fail to mention how much you appreciate Alan Watt and the information that is provided.  And so, the books that he has written, it puts some meat into, it goes beyond just a conversation.  Let’s put it that way.  And when you go into cuttingthroughthematrix.com, you can actually read some excerpts of each of the books.  There’s three of them.  ...Alan, anything else you want to say about that, honey?

Alan: No, that’s pretty well it.  And those three books, I could just say that it’s a process.  I write in a different fashion, because I try to involve the reader in a formula that wakes them up as they read, rather than just have a dull boring dates and who said what and who did what, you know.  That doesn’t work.  It does not work.  We’ve had this for so long, you know, it doesn’t work.  So, I hit them with symbols and so on that are used, that are in front of their faces.  They don’t think about them.  I explain them to them, and start their minds working for themselves.  That’s the process of it.  It’s a technique.

Jackie: That’s what we have to do, is start thinking for ourselves, isn’t it?

Alan: Oh, that’s it.

Jackie: You know, it sure helps.  For those of us who do communicate, and of course, you being on the air with us, because a lot of times things are pointed out, it’s happened to me so many times, Alan, that you’ve pointed out something, that I didn’t, I wouldn’t have even thought about it, if you hadn’t said it, and then suddenly it’s as clear as the nose on your face.  So, maybe it’s beyond just thinking for ourselves.  It’s that the truth has been, so much of the truth has been suppressed that we’ve all lived in some little dreamland thinking it was a dream, and come to find out, like I said, it’s been a nightmare, Alan.

Alan: Yeah, I always say that.  You wake up from the dream into the nightmare, when you realize the reality of what it is all about.

Jackie: Well, and you know, there’s just another thing that was on my mind, when we were talking about this situation there in Matewan.  I was thinking also, watching that movie, I was thinking about World War I and the soldiers that fought in World War I were promised a bonus by the US government, and then of course, the depression hit.  They never got their bonuses, and they were starving, those that survived World War I.  You had them, you know they were limbless, and crippled, and etc, and they weren’t getting their bonus, so they marched, with their families.  They took trains, they drove, and they walked to Washington D.C. to plead with the government to give them their bonuses because they were starving, and the military came out and shot at them.  I remember, I read quite a bit about it.  They were actually camping out in tents.  And it was, I think Dwight Eisenhower was maybe one of them that was involved in that.  General MacArthur.  One of those guys gave the orders for the troops to open fire on WWI veterans, Alan.  Now, that’s America, the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Alan: Well, you see, that all came from Britain, because this is the difference too.  In recent years, really in the last century, they trained Americans, indoctrinated them actually into the tribal system, that the tribal emblems, the flag, they had all the children reciting with the hand over the heart, you know, a Masonic gesture.

Jackie: Pledging allegiance to a flag.

Alan: Yes, and of course, that trains you to jump up and hear the brass bands, and off you go to war.  Whereas in Britain, the people feared the military, because the military had always been used on the people at home.  That was the big difference.  They had always been used on the people back home.  They had the Drapers Riots in the 1700s, and in the 1800s, when they started importing the cheaper stuff from India, and putting all the cotton mills out of business.  They had riots there, and they turned the British military on the people and had mass shootings in the streets.  So, Britain was well used to what a uniform meant, you know.  See, uniform means one form.  When they put on a uniform, they are no longer an individual, they’re a robot who is part of the whole.  Kind of like Legion, we are many, but we are one, you know.

Jackie: Yes, well, think about this.  They are actually considered, they are considered owned by the government.

Alan: They’re private.

Jackie: Yeah.  Well, think, I think about the dog tags.  Now, see, Alan, something just like that.  I mean, we’ve heard about dog tags forever.  It never occurred to me, that you know, a dog tag is a tag you hang around a dog’s neck.

Alan: It’s the dogs of war, you know from Shakespeare.

Jackie: Okay, but a GI is government issue.

Alan: That’s right.  Some would say a General Idiot, too.  You’re privately owned.  That’s what it means.  You’re no longer a member of the rest of the people.  You’re a private.  You start as a private.  You’re owned body and soul.  You do what you’re told.  You’re owned.  That’s what it means.  You don’t have any rights at all, that the general population may have, even in common law.  You’re now privately owned by the corporation.  So, you start as a private.  So, that’s where that comes from.  But Britain was so used to the dragoons and all the other big regiments being turned loose on the public, that no, you did not worship the military, as they were trained eventually, again only in the 20th century, to worship the military in America.

Jackie: And you know, you still see cars driving around here, with those little China-made American US flags on it.  And people hang them out in front of their homes.  We had, you know, I’ve got a huge, tall flagpole across the road, which I brought from Illinois.  I was the same way. That flag, Old Glory, I loved it, Alan, because it meant so many things to me, that were such lies.  But the big laugh, the big joke on the American people after 9/11, and they were selling those little flags, millions of them, and they came from China.  China-made.  And in case, any new listeners, that might not have heard this or thought about it, but it isn’t an American flag.  Think about it.  When that flag was, was it, during the Revolution.  Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner still wave.  The bombs bursting in air.  It’s a war flag.  It’s a military, it’s a US government incorporated flag.

Alan: It’s actually deeper than that, because it’s a Masonic, Kabbalistic flag.  And, you see, they had the first revolution in England, and the English flag became the Union Jack, for Jacob, you know.  Jack is also a levi, a lever.  You jack things up.  You’re a priest.  And, of course, you have the Illumined Man, the X over the Templar cross.  So, it’s eight pointed, you see.  Eight is power and money.  That’s what it means in Masonry.  And it’s red, white, and blue.  And it’s red for fire and revolution and blood, and it’s also white for spirit, and of course the blue is the closest up from black which is law, according to the Kabbalistic system.  The next one in red, white, and blue, was America, and of course, Canada was the same with the Union Jack.  It’s changed now.  And then the next one was France which became red, white and blue.  So, that’s their revolutionary colors, really.

Jackie: Somebody said that the US flag was taken from the British East...

Alan: India Company.

Jackie: East India Company.

Alan: Yeah, they had it, it’s on a famous, there’s a famous building in Hong Kong, the Palisade, and in there, I don’t know if it’s still there, but they had an actual original East India Company flag.  And it was like the early American one, where you had a circle.  America had a circle of 13 stars for the colonies, and 13, of course, is revolution and regeneration, you see, in Masonry.  That’s why they waited till they had 13.

Jackie: Well, I guess how they made their flag too, huh?

Alan: Yes, and then they had the stripes going across the way.  So that was the East India Company’s flag.

Jackie: And, of course, it was just coincidence that there were thirteen colonies at that time.

Alan: And what gets me too, you see, is they’d already had international meetings in Europe, as to who was going to bring in the next part of the system, for empire.  And they couldn’t use any of the existing countries, because they were all known by the rest of the world that was not yet invaded, as being tyrants and looters for a small clique in London and in Paris, and so on.  And so they dreamed up the idea of a new knight in shining armor, that was brand new, and unconnected with the rest of them.  And what happened in America was about 55 of the largest wealthy landowners in America, who all had charters to own their land, by the way, from the British Crown, they had original charters from the Crown, those guys, Washington and so on.  And they got together in that building, and 33 of them of course, 33 signed their name to it.  And they were all high Freemasons.  And they barred the general public from coming in.  And then they came out and said, we’ve given you a Constitution, you know.

Jackie: You’re talking about the Con Con.

Alan: What a joke.  The general public had no input into it, whatsoever.  It was a Masonic meeting.  Franklin talked about that, quite openly.  And you even see Washington with the chair behind him, with the rising sun picture in the background.

Jackie: Yep, in his chair.  It’s still there at Independence Hall.

Alan: And they even barred the doors and had guards on it.

Jackie: They nailed the windows shut, Alan.

Alan: That’s because all temple lodges, it’s called the church with no windows.  When they have a lodge meeting, they must have that done.  So, it’s such a farce.  And that’s why Washington has got his big erection up there, over the water.  And the first new, large obelisk, copied after the Egyptians, over water.  Fire over water, that’s what it stands for.  The male over the female.

Jackie: At the reflecting pool there.  You mentioned Thomas Jefferson, and I had read in a bio of him, that he had ordered an obelisk, you know, for his grave.

Alan: That’s right.  And most of them did, actually.  And when you go across the border, if you look between the border, get off the main roads, and walk along the Canadian-US border, they marked it every half mile or so with a Masonic obelisk about 12 feet tall, all along it.  It was a Masonic arrangement made between the two groups, you know.  It’s all Masonic.  So, that’s the big joke.  And then, of course, Franklin, in his own memoirs, and Jefferson, both repeated the same thing, that they saw this as the beginning of a Federation of the World.  And they would start with the Federation of the States of America, and that would be the beginning of a Federation of the World, led by Twelve Wise Men.  And that’s in their own writings, which surely they must have given you at school.  Because that’s in their own memoirs, you know.

Jackie: No, they didn’t give us that stuff at school.

Alan: Really?

Jackie: Oh, God, no, Alan.

Alan: What did they give you, John Wayne?

Jackie: They gave you dates and names and places.  It was very dry.  Maybe that’s why I kept falling asleep in history class.  Then after I got out of school, then I became thirsty, you know, for actually finding out what really did happen.  And you know, maybe, if there was a true hero, of this country, it would have been Andrew Jackson.  Think about it.  You know, George Washington, what do you call, chartered the first bank.  And that was a twenty-year charter.  And it was Andrew Jackson who refused to charter it.  There’s a whole book written about that.  Well, I mean that, the Coming Battle.  There’s a lot of information in there, about, my God, what they threatened if they didn’t get the charter to that bank.  And then they tried to, they tried an assassination.  And I love that story.  I don’t know if it’s true, but...

Alan: Well, what I do know too is, Jackson, and this is the thing too that’s going to happen to us.  You see, they had to push the American Indians into reservations.  And that’s another M.O. of the same brotherhood down through the ages.

Jackie: And Jackson did that?

Alan: Well, Jackson helped along that.  And, of course, Jackson also, they had treaties with the American Indians, up in the Black Hills area, and of course, he wanted gold.  And so, he started to encourage all the settlers to move in there, to start the wars going with the Indians.  And when they brought the trains through, Jackson put ads in all the European newspapers for the big wealthy gentlemen, the sportsmen, he called them, to come over to the Americas, and they would have these train rides through the prairies there, and along the Black Hills, and all the ammunition they could want, and they would feed them and so on, at the taxpayers’ expense, and they killed thousands and thousands and thousands of buffalo.

Jackie: Oh, they almost made them extinct.

Alan: And that was to get rid of the Indians’ food supply.  That was intentional.  That’s what it was for.

Jackie: Then I take it back.  Maybe there is no "true hero" of this country.

Alan: Well, the ones who are heroes were probably dead and never mentioned.

Jackie: Yeah, the ones that were killed.

Alan: Yeah, they’d stand up and protest, or maybe they went for their rights, when they were in that blacked-out room making up the charter there, maybe they came up with a protest, and had their throats slit Masonically.  But that’s the history.  We’re living through a system which uses everybody, all the ordinary people.  And they make no distinction between the peasant of America, Canada, or China.  If you’re not one of them in the upper nobility, you’re just a peasant.  You’re a world peasant.  And other writers, including the Russells, and so on, Bertrand Russell, makes that quite plain, you know.  They have no identification with the ordinary people.  When you look at what Washington came out of the Revolution with, I mean, he came up with, he’d added 20-odd mile of land to his property, during the Revolution.  He was a busy guy, you know.

Jackie: Who was this?

Alan: Washington.

Jackie: He was.  He was land rich.

Alan: He added about 20-odd square miles to his property during the war.  And so, they were looking after themselves.  And they put all their Masonic symbols up, and people pass it all the time.  It’s in all the movies, the obelisk and the water, and there’s Lincoln sitting just like a statue of one of the pharaohs in this four square position, they call it, in his big chair.

Jackie: And there’s in Springfield Illinois at the state capital, a big bronze statue of him, sitting in his chair.  And his nose is all shiny.

Alan: Oh, a shiny nose, eh?

Jackie: People come in there and they drop money into the little fountain there, and make a wish and rub his nose.

Alan: Oh really?

Jackie: And his nose is real pretty.  You know, it’s, you know how, I guess it’s brass or copper, or...

Alan: Bronze, probably.

Jackie: Bronze, yeah.  You know how it will begin to oxidize.  So, his nose is real pretty.  Because that’s what the people do.

Alan: Well, that’s the thing.  As I say, the Indians were first.  The settlers made real estate out of jungles and wastelands and swamps.  Now it’s being taken from them.  They’re to be put into their reservations, which are the human habitat areas of the UN.  So, everybody is used in turn for the agenda, always.

Jackie: And now they refer to the US as the empire.

Alan: Yes, and of course that started when Britain handed over the torch officially.  And again, even going back to the fifteen hundreds, John Dee and his buddy Francis Bacon, wrote about the New Atlantis arriving in the West, which would continue carrying the torch, and sure enough, America took over the tax-paying part of it, and the military part of it, to bring in the New World Order.  Once it sinks, China is to be the policeman of the world.  And that’s the way the elite have formulated this plan.  And they’ve written about it too.

Jackie: For, in case we have any new listeners, you know, I used to get angry when people, in fact when I was first given the book that Ralph Boryszewski wrote, The Constitution that Never Was, I wouldn’t even read it, Alan.  I said, this is just another book that bashes our Constitution.  ...It’s a real hard pill to swallow when you’ve been born into that, Alan.  And I know it’s very hurtful, because it was.  Well, look how ticked off I got at you.  You wouldn’t acknowledge that the Constitution was...  I didn’t even want to talk to you for a while.

Alan: And of course, Canada, under Pierre Trudeau, got, for the first time, a charter of rights.  And it’s right along the same world agenda, where there’s no mention of private property ownership in the whole charter.  And of course, Pierre Trudeau, who became prime minister of Canada, who was also a Rhodes scholar, and a millionaire, because all the millionaires run the Communist side, you see.  The elite run Communism.

Jackie: Which is no different than international democracy.

Alan: Well, the same boys run both sides.

Jackie: Well, it’s all one and the same plan.

Alan: It’s the same families that run it.  It’s the dialectic of pretending you have an enemy, pushing the public between the two, squeezing them, until we come out with the synthesis, the third way.

Jackie: National Socialism, I guess.

Alan: Yeah.  We’ve got a fascist elite running a communistic bureaucracy who run the people.  That’s the synthesis.  That’s it.  And of course, Pierre Trudeau led the Young Communist party of Canada, the Comintern, to Moscow in 1952.  He helped with the setting up of the Charter for the United Nations, with Escott Reid and Pearson and Alger Hiss.  And then he became the Prime Minister of Canada, and not one newspaper mentioned that he was the leader of the Comintern for Canada, the Communist International.  And that’s because it’s all one and the same thing.  Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same coin.

Jackie: Two sides of the same coin, yes.

Alan: And guess who owns the coin?

Jackie: Leading us to the third way.

Alan: So, the media is an essential arm of government.  Without it, they couldn’t give us this fake reality, you know.

Jackie: Well, besides the media, don’t forget the entertainment and music industry.

Alan: That’s essential.  In fact, they had a meeting in England in the 1970s, the early ’70s, with the Royal Institute of International Affairs and CFR to decide which company and country would give the culture to the world, the coming world, the New World, and they decided that Hollywood would be the culture creator.

Jackie: There we go.

Alan: For the world.

Jackie: We just got our one-minute warning here.  So, is there anything that you want to say in about 40 seconds?

Alan: Yes.  It’s not over yet, till the fat lady sings.

Jackie: Thank you, Alan.  It ain’t until the fat lady sings.  That is for sure.  And this has been going on, down through the ages.  And they’re still at, and we’re still here.

Alan: We are.

Jackie: So there you go.  Thank you for that.  What a wonderful, what a wonderful final statement for this broadcast.  Folks, we’ll see you back Wednesday night, next.  And thank you for being here, folks.  Good night, Alan.  Thanks, honey.

Alan: Good Night.

Jackie: Good Night.

Good Evening, ladies and gentleman, this is Alan Watt, standing in for Jackie Patru, who has sinusitis right now, probably due to the chemtrails that are being stepped up across the country.  And I've got it too, actually, but we'll struggle through this hour.  I talked to Jackie about half an hour ago.  There's no real format for this broadcast.  Generally there never is.  We just go off the cuff, so you'll have to persevere as I let loose whatever comes to my mind.  This is the first of March, and it's 2006.  We just witnessed the end of the Olympic games.  I don't know if you watched the end of it.  I don't watch the games, I watch the beginning and the end ceremonies, because they're highly telling with the occultic symbology they use in your face.  And, of course, it was held in Turin, in the North of Italy, this year.  And Turin used to be a stronghold of some of the ancient Cathars and so on, and Albigensians.  And at the end ceremony, they showed you the oval, the oval rink or arena.  Arena comes from Aaron, of course, the priest, high priest, circle.  And it's an oval shape, and they showed you the big flaming obelisk type tower, with intertwined serpents, really, intertwined, snaking up the tower. And the fire coming out of the top, symbolizing the fire of the regenerative force, or the issue from the phallus, basically.  Which you'll see on many Masonic obelisks across the country.  They put one up for Kennedy after he was assassinated in Dallas.  And that's got not a real flame shooting out, just a stone one.  I guess that's because he was shot stone dead.

In this particular closing ceremony, they had dancers, hundreds of dancers dressed up, like Tarot cards, and the commentator said, it's because this region at one time was heavily into the Tarot card reading, and actually had permission apparently at one time to use them from the church and then it was withdrawn again, and then they were persecuted.  And then the dancers made a circle of course, the eternal circle.  And then they made a five-pointed star, which is the Masonic five-pointed star that you see, between wall and mart, Wal-Mart, you'll see it in Freemasonry.  You'll see it on the American flag and many others.  That's fire, air, earth, water, and of course, the added element is spirit.  And they claim that the profane, the majority of the public don't have spirit, so you only get four points instead of five if you're the average profane, you see.  So I watched this Masonic parade, with other actors being dressed up as red flames themselves, and going around this arena.  It's quite fascinating to watch how everything is put right in front of your eyes, and the majority of the public listen to the songs that are played and might even dance to them, but they don't really know what they're watching, or participating in, even, if they're actually there.  But the world is full of a particular hidden religion's symbology.  It is all around us.  It's in all main logos of your major companies and corporations.  Carefully hidden or slightly altered pyramids and triangles, and you have the double X, of course of Exxon Valdez, and you have the Crux Ansata, etc, etc, etc.

So, we live in a world where we take everything for granted, simply because all of that which is around us exists.  You're born into it.  And like all mammals, you look to your parents, your guardians, to warn you of danger.  And if your parents were thoroughly brainwashed, then they don't warn you.  They don't know.  And then the child grows up thinking everything must have evolved this way, quite naturally.  And that's how easy they keep this type of system going, where as Lenin himself, who really had the best education by the top bankers on the planet, because they had to create an opposition to create change, directed change that is.  Lenin himself said that the public must never know that mankind could go off in a thousand different directions.  They had to believe the one they were born and live in is a natural evolution, and do it unquestioningly.  And we do.  We're born into it.  And so we go through this strange existence we call life, where immediately you'll see your national symbols flashed in front of you at school, or on television.  You learn very quickly that soldiers are somehow special, if you're a little boy.  And now it's little girls too, of course.  And people who come from no background at all, at the very bottom of the ladder, will get somehow respect from the top of their country, and all the citizenry, if they wear this one form, this uniform.  And they never question it from there on.  We don't question what we're even taught at school, or even why we're at school, or who designed the school system, and who does it serve.

And of course, what we're living in, as Karl Marx said, it's an economic system.  Every system since they call the birth of civilization is actually an economic system.  And by that, they call it civilization.  Meaning, it was an organized priesthood, or many priesthoods, specialized ones, like bureaucrats, from the days of Sumer onwards, that also handled money in the form of gold measure, or later on, gold coin, and of course, controlled trade.  And through trade, they created little factory towns, in ancient Phoenicia, for instance.  So it's never really stopped.  And they even had Free Trade in ancient Phoenicia, if you think it's a brand new idea.  They were already standardizing the coinage weight internationally in ancient times by the Phoenicians.  And they wouldn't trade eventually.  Once they got you hooked on trade, and having your little toy beads coming in, and all this kind of stuff, and even porn.  They exported porn which was chiseled or baked in clay with little cartoon characters, and I guess they even gave a prize to their own version of Hugh Hefner in those days.  They exported all the same stuff that's come down through the ages.  And at the same time, they brought other priests with them to give them the opposite of the porn, etc, meaning sin and this is how you pay your god off with little bribes, called offerings, and maybe you'll be allowed to continue with your little sins in secret.

Right up until the present day, we've been controlled by an economic system they call civilization.  They say it has a plan.  It's called progress.  No one, you'll find, defines for us what progress is.  Or those who keep talking about progress never define it for us, I should say.  Whose progress?  A progress to what ends and to serve whom?  Because we really are being shaped in a very ancient plan that the high occultists, and high occultists, you cannot buy their books in the regular bookstores.  The high occultists own all the big publishing companies that churn out the rubbish for the people. They have their own inner archives for themselves, and for their offspring, who take over from them.  They said that this Great Work, this great plan to perfect all that was imperfect, left imperfect by the Grand Architect of the Universe, began 4,500 thousand years ago.  And this is this part of the plan, because there's many hints of previous ages and destructions, and so on.  Possibly brought about by the same priesthoods, who keep trying over and over again.

And that's why, when Sumer came on the scene, for instance, it didn't evolve slowly, from guys dragging their knuckles across the desert floor like apes.  No, they arrived on the scene with many bureaucracies as priests.  A pantheon of deities to rule every part of a person's life.  A full economic system with trade, internationally, in fact.  They even traded with India. We're talking about 5,000 BC or so.  And they didn't learn this from picking it up piece by piece.  You could even get a baked receipt from the supermarket, the open air market, and you got it in fifteen minutes, which when the computer breaks down at your supermarket, could maybe be a bit faster than the present.

So, we're talking about an understanding of commerce, science and control of the mind of populations, to make people accept slavery, and a definite caste system.  A caste system, where you have an inbred elite, even at the days of Sumer.  And that's come right down to the present day.  We see it in India too, with the Brahmans, who claim to be more perfected physically, through their selective breeding, and, of course, they claim they have the best, highest spirits, reincarnated forever, to the present time.  And we are going into an age now, we're into it actually, where the same mystery religion that ran all of the ancient world, is controlling us, shaping our minds, because they laid the foundations for this a long time ago.  They shape the mind for years in advance, before the public even know their minds are being directed in a certain direction, and hence the New Age was brought in, ultimately, in the 1960s, first written about in the magazine called the New Age, which was the main publication of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.  That was the title of it, the New Age.  And they prepare the fields, which is your mind.  They leave it fallow, then they plow it, then they harrow it, then they sift it, then they plant the seed.  It can take generations to get the crop that they want, but they have it today.

And people haven't really noticed the rather quick changeover, where in many bookstores, major bookstores, the large shelves, which contained hundreds of the regular Christian books and so on, have all disappeared, and they're all full of the New Age books.  They think these authors just spontaneously arise, but they don't.  And it's because the mind was shaped long ago for the readers, the present-day readers to accept this new philosophy.  Albert Pike, who was the Pope of Freemasonry, the world Pope of Freemasonry, in the late 1800s, and wrote the main treatise on it, Morals and Dogma, for those 33 and below, even though he himself was much higher and belonged to higher groups, stated in there, he says, that we have been behind every major revolution in the world.  He said, and we never fail, because we always lay the groundwork.  We never begin a premature revolution.  And that goes with all change in society, because most revolutions are cultural revolutions.  They're non-bloody, such as the sexual revolution, the feminist, etc, etc.  These are non-bloody, but they take a long time to work behind the scenes, prepare the ground, and eventually have everyone accept the new norm.  This is part of ongoing revolution, which in high Masonry they call struggle.  "I struggle."  That's why you find that even Adolf Hitler called it Mein Kampf, My Struggle.  It's all Masonic, you see.  All sides are Masonic in every battle.  Without battle, you cannot have change.

And the laws of nature, being in opposition to each other, such as winter vs. summer and fall vs. spring, show this.  And of course, 4,500 B.C. with the beginning of this part of the Great Work, to perfect that which was left imperfect, they said they'd have to use the laws of nature.  And change in society, the sheep, you see, the great mass of people are called sheep in all ages, and they have good shepherds, the sheep will not go in the direction they want them to go.  In fact they won't move at all, unless there is a conflict between two sides, on either side.  And that way, they're directed to the next pasture, which is the next part of the age.  So, the ancient occultists, above what we know as Freemasonry, who have guided all of this, are simply destroying the old structure.  They are builders, remember, they build society, and they build culture.  They're moving from the stage they've been at and used successfully for the last couple of thousand years, of Christianity in different varieties and forms.  And they're dismantling it, of course, they've been dismantling it for a while.  It's served its purpose.  It kept the people obedient to a caste system in Europe, with kings and queens and aristocracy and nobility.  They made sure that in the King James version, they put in there that all government comes from God, just to make sure that they would obey, you see.

And the oddest thing of course, down through the ages, is that these European countries, where the people were always recruited, given uniforms, often the first new clothing they'd ever had in their life, and became suddenly respectable, before they went off to get slaughtered.  It's awfully strange that the same techniques which were used then are still used today.  They could never really click.  They never thought that, how come they shouldn't kill, and yet, it was okay to kill when their governments actually encouraged it.  Not only that, you get medals for doing it, if you live that long, that is.  And you would have eventually ticker-tape parades, and you'd be held up for your five minutes in the sun, before you were cast off into the streets without a pension.  So, this is the reality of this incredible system, including its history, which we're given.  How they can actually indoctrinate you never to stand up to a tyrannical system in your own country, and even when it is tyrannical, they can tell you to believe in god, and god's watching you, and don't kill.  But when they tell you to go and kill for economic reasons, for the elite abroad somewhere, the men just rush off.  That's a tribal technique, a tribal instinct, which the elite understand.  They bring out the symbols, the brass bands, or the bagpipes or whatever it is, and the young guys, who run on hormones, and cannot think, they're too young to know what's going on, they don't even know who they are themselves at that age, run off, and either win or lose, although the elite never win or lose, you'll notice.  Generally, the countries' leaders of both sides will share the loot, the booty, as they used to call it.  Where the people, it kept the populations down.  So, war fulfilled many functions.

In the 20th Century war was preordained by Albert Pike and others, of various high Masonic institutes, who wrote about it freely about it at one time, and they said that there would be three World Wars.  One definitely with Germany, possibly two with Germany.  The third one would be Zion against Islam.  And we're seeing that being fulfilled now.  H.G. Wells wrote about that too in his novel version, Shape of Things to Come, where he even put Basra in as the focal starting point of the third one, and of course, he was in Britain when he wrote it, and in Basra, is the major area and city that the British troops went into in Iraq, this time.  So, these guys know the agenda, and we are simply living a script, pre-written, long before we were actually born.  We can find many of the big players belong to the Trilateral Commission.  The Trilateral Commission was formed from members of the Council on Foreign Relations for America, which is the American branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs.  Any non-Commonwealth country is called a Council on Foreign Relations country.

And we find that the Trilateral Commission was set up initially to bring in the three trading blocs that Karl Marx wrote about in the 1840s in Das Kapital.  Karl Marx wrote this in London, and he was put up by the Rothschilds, bankers, of course, because the rich men of the world always have run the world, since they introduced their money civilization system.  And they had to create an opposition to themselves in a sense, or at least the appearance of opposition.  To get the Great Work through you must have what appears to be a direct antithesis to the thesis, and that's why they created a system which was supposed to declare that they would destroy capitalism completely and get rid of the old caste system and bring in a world with experts running it at the top, and scientists, etc, run on reason and logic and yaddah, yah.  And everybody would serve the state, and of course, the people at the bottom believed it, and the people in the middle, management level, got a different version, and then the ones up at the Politburo level and even above them, got the real version.  That's how it works, you see.  Karl Marx wrote about the three trading Blocs, back in the 1840s, funded by the Rothschilds, who owned the Bank of England.  And of course, they also owned the banks in Germany, and Italy and a few other countries.  And you find that they funded the Communists.

Karl Marx, also by the way, Karl Marx wrote letters to Abraham Lincoln, they're in the Congressional records, because he congratulated Lincoln on upholding the unification of the Americas, or the United States, because, in Communist ideology, a strong central government must take over all laws, regulations, etc, over the entire country.  And so, for Americans who want to research that, you can look into your Congressional records and you'll find that, that Abraham Lincoln was in correspondence with Karl Marx, and had tremendous congratulations from the latter on his ability to keep this particular goal, which they both knew, they understood, but the masses didn't, in mind.

During the Cold War that came on after World War II, there was the so-called arms race.  That again is a great thing with war or pretend wars.  They can tax the people to the hilt.  The people think that they're being saved, they're protected.  Meanwhile, the money was being funneled into NASA, the NSA, they all have ni-sa sounds, because that's the Hebrew/Aramaic word for the head, for the head of the Sanhedrin, it's called, Nasa, or Nasi, if you like.  And that is no coincidence.  And so, NASA has been putting more satellites up there for future use, which ultimately will have to do with the controlling of our ID cards, with the active chips in them, which are now out in the open.  They are definitely active chips.  And ultimately, the inserted chip is to come afterwards.  The card is only a stepping stone.  And all the technology was made through budgets getting funneled to these experimental labs to do with what's happening today, not with what was happening in the Cold War at all, to do with high-tech observation, control of people, through the trick of the elect, of course, which is electricity, which they knew in the 1700s they would use.  Benjamin Franklin wrote about it, if anybody cares to look into it.

So, electricity, computers, etc, were mandated for a stepping stone towards where we're going very shortly, which is to be a totally controlled world, where, as they said in their plan, their great plan, of course, they wrote about it.  And they called it Revelations in the New Testament.  That's written is such exoteric and esoteric language, which is typical of the ancient brotherhood.  And they tell you right in there that the age would come where no one could buy or sell without the mark or the image of the beast.  It's the mark, really.  And a mark of course, could be a scratch, insertion or whatever.  You couldn't buy or sell.  And of course, the cashless society is coming along with this new ID card which every country in the world is putting into place at the same time.  In fact, in Canada, they pulled out Stockwell Day recently, and gave him his first thing to tell the public, which was that well, the US is bringing it in, and Britain has brought it in, and other countries in Europe are bringing it in, so we must bring it in too; we can't be left behind.  And I guess that logic, which they always use for this kind of thing, would mean that if they're eating fetus in China, then I guess we should be doing the same thing here.  So, there's no logic.  It's an agenda, and that's the reason it doesn't really make sense to us.  This ID card, according Stockwell Day, will also be your international passport.  He did say, it's not just a national card, it's an international card, which will tell you that the regional and international computers, supercomputers, are already set up to take these things.

And they were set up years ago, because back in about 1995, Canada bought five super Cray computers, and it was written about at the time.  Each supercomputer could handle technically all the data in Canada, and the reporters in the Toronto papers were scratching their heads wondering why little old Canada was buying all these super Cray computers.  These things take buildings to put them in.  They are nitrogen cooled.  These aren't your little tabletops.  Australia at the same time, in the early '90s, mid '90s, was doing the same thing.  And some reporters, I have them on videotape, talking in the mid-90s, were talking about this.  They said, well, you know, there's going to be a coming ID card, don't you.  So they all know this.  9/11 was simply the Pearl Harbor event that Brzezinski talked about must occur to get the people motivated behind the war which was to begin, according to his book, The Grand Chessboard, published in '98, it would begin in Afghanistan, which it did, and then go over to Iraq, then into Iran, and then Syria.  And they would finish off the job that Britain began, of standardizing the world into one system, one legal/economic system, educational system, worldwide, because we all must become one.

The real meaning of "one" is not what the New Agers are dreaming about.  That's all the stuff that's been fed to them, by the big boys who churn out their books for them.  The oneness that the big boys are talking about is actually a zombie land basically, a Borg land, where most of the public will simply be programmed for the work.  They'll be unable to think of themselves as a distinct individual.

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen.  I think I'm back.  We generally get a bit of music there when it starts again.  First of all, I'll tell you, that I'm on again on the X-zone radio, tonight, which will be 1am Eastern.  And that's broadcast on a whole bunch of AM stations, as well as the internet radio.  It comes out of Hamilton, Ontario.  And that should be a pretty good program, I think, or broadcast.  I hate the word program, because we're all being programmed.  It's also being broadcast in Australia and the UK and other countries too.  On March the 5th and 12th, I'll be on the internet radio, which is called Eye on the Future with Hehpsehboah.  And I know that will roll well, because there's a bit of interaction there, which helps to give it a bit of fire.

So, things may be picking up, it's hard to tell how long we have, really, to discuss things which must be discussed before it's forbidden.  We're almost at that stage now, where if you say anything contrary to the present agenda, it's called anti-government, which is a direct translation from the Soviet term used over there, as was political correctness a direct translation from the Soviet term.  So, the Soviet is actually here.  The Soviet system is now merged with the capitalist system, and that's what they call the third way, which Mr. Gingrich was talking about, as he tossed out Mr. Toffler's books, called The Third Wave.  It's the merging of the two into the one system for global reconstruction.  A Communistic, overbearing bureaucracy to deal with every part of an individual's life, with the usual elite at the top above all of that, who are called the dominant minority, according to Plato.  They call them the dominant minority, the inbred group at the top, who own the wealth of the world, with their helpers down beneath them.

This is the world we're going into, and it's a part.  It's a step-by-step world, until they have literally us implanted with these brain chips, which are talked about at the Loyola meetings, the World Science Meetings, sponsored by the US Department of Commerce.  Where the scientist said, it's all ready to go.  All they had to do was to get the people to accept this chip, inserted into their body, would be to start putting it into cartoons, promoting it at kindergartens and schools, and putting it in novels and movies as a good thing to have.  And they already are putting them in all of those things, of course.  Preparing the ground, again, the field, plowing it, harrowing it, and then planting it, and the people will think it's a natural evolution, once more.  However, Arthur Koestler, who worked on this technique of lobotomizing the mind said, it must be done for World Peace.  Peace means peace from the people.  That's what it means.  It means that the people won't have to have entertainment and sports and all this kind of stuff to keep them occupied.  We'll simply be programmed like the Borg, on the Starship Enterprise, to do specific tasks.

I'd like to thank a woman in Sweden, who's been asking for my books.  They should be out tomorrow.  And she's a nice woman in her 80s.  It shows you that age has nothing to do with following, studying, nor waking up to what's really going on.  And in some people, they simply have that hunger; others don't.  And we certainly cut through the nonsense that's out there.  And it's top-heavy with nonsense, put out by the big boys of Tavistock, who also shove the authors out there, to write out thousands of books, to confuse you even more.  And that's always been the way they shape our minds into certain directions.  So, I'd like to thank Maria, and they should be out tomorrow.

For those in Australia, who were asking about the international meeting I read from some time ago, it was actually, I thought it was in Melbourne, it was in Sydney, Australia, October 1938.  It was the Royal Institute of International Affairs, World Meeting.  Very important meeting.  And they did have US members there from the CFR.  Every attendant from every country is listed in the back.  All the Australian delegates.  They have the ones from New Zealand, Britain, Ireland even, and India.  And in this book, they go through the entire Structure right up into 2000 and beyond, to create a New World Order and it's those terms.  A New World Order, and how they would use a structured system to control the people.  A structured system run by experts, which of course, that is also backed up by Lord Bertrand Russell, who wrote The Impact of Science on Society.  So, in this book, if you can get a hold of it, it was printed by the Oxford University Press, Toronto.  It has a list of all the Royal Institutes: the Canadian Institute, the Australian Institute, the New Zealand, South African, and the one from India, and the United States of course, were in attendance.  So it has all your big players.

And what you'll find in it, is that the top leaders of Left and Right Wings were all members of it.  And this is a Masonic organization, by the way.  Because in Masonic law, they can speak equally on the floor, on the square, on the level, as they say.  And so they had all the people who would create the dialectic, the fight between left and right, etc.  They'd have the leaders there hammering out the agenda, and how they would make it work on the people.  Their goal, ultimately, would be a world where people would have constructive world citizenship.  And this is the very end of the book, in fact, some members of the conference called it a World Order, a New World Order, some, the Good Life.  Some spoke of Constructive World Citizenship, or the Brotherhood of Man, that Masonic term again.  Still, in other words, other words used, which might serve as a motto both for the Commonwealth, and for the World Order of which he and his companions dreamed was developed in each individual, a sense of duty to his fellow man.  In later conferences, they call it a sense of duty to the state.  In fact, they say, that you would not be born, unless they had a need for you to serve the World State.  They go through the coming-up World War II.  They pretty well know they were going to win it.  They said they would defend the Soviet Union, at all costs.  This was in this one book.  This was the minutes and speeches of their meetings.  And, as I say, this was long before I was a gleam in my father's eye, you know.  The whole future was in here.

And of course, they also knew that towards the end of the millennium, Russia would just simply bring down its system and merge with the West.  That was the merger, which Mr. Gorbachev talked about, just before he left, when he was premier of Russia.  He said to his fellow Russians, he said, some people will say that Communism is dying or is dead. He says, do not believe it.  He says, we're simply moving out into the world to fulfill our destiny.  In other words, that was always the plan that once they had created this system, they'd merge it with the west, with the banking system, the dominant elite of the West, and they would run the world in a constructive, scientific manner, where experts would run the show, intellectual experts.  And that's what we have today.

Lenin also wrote about this same thing.  At the beginning of the 1900s, he said, towards the end of the millennium and into the new, the world would be so top-heavy, so top-heavy with bureaucracy and bureaucratic departments overreaching each other, that there would be some confusion.  So, he's quite right there, because we see that today, with so many government departments, literally stepping over each other, on each other's turf.  So, in this particular book from the meeting of the Institute of International Affairs, they talk about the possible necessity of bringing the United States into the war, possibly by an attack by Japan on the United States.  This was in 1938, folks.

So, if you think things just happen, please just read your New Age books, burn incense, live in a bubble, chant your ‘om’, eat your seeds and health foods, and just turn your back on what's happening, because you've effectively been disabled from participating in the creation of destiny.  This world we're living in is actually participate in destiny.  The New Agers are soaking up all these propaganda books, which are thinly disguised as promoting the new religion, to believe that 2012 is going to be the end of the world according to the Maya Calendar, and all of that.  Well, I'll tell you, you see, those guys who represent the Mayans that they've dug up for some shows, are all Masons, you see.  Just like the American Indians were sold down the river by their chiefs who became Masons.  Joseph Brant was one of their first ones for the tribes up in Canada and the States, and he joined the British side during the American Revolution.  And he told some of his other members of the tribes to join the American side, which is typical dialect once again.  His son, Norton, took over, as the Grand Master of the Federation of the Six Nations I think they called it.  We have the same thing in Africa too, with Mr. Mandela and all the usual leaders.  They're all high Masons.

And when you become a Mason, you leave your old family behind.  And your new family is the new international brotherhood of Masons, you see.  And that's who you serve.  You swear oaths to that.  You no longer belong to the people who still identify with you.  You may lead them, but you will lead them up the garden path, because you're now let into the real agenda.  And those ordinary people below you, are the profane, the dark ones.  They live in the darkness, you see.  And you simply lead them to where your brotherhood wants them to go.  They are there to be used.  And in fact, Albert Pike, the Pope of Masonry, said, those who will not use their own power of reason and intellect are nothing more than beasts of burden and meat on the table by choice and consent.  And therefore, in that case, if that's their choice, then those who are the true predators have the right to use them.  That's what it means, by the law of nature.  So, they were nice guys, eh?

This is the real intent behind it.  It's a class, caste type system.  And they have all the New Agers reading all this Mayan stuff.  The same tricks they pulled with Christianity for thousands of years.  "Well, geez, I mean, God wrote revelations, didn't he?  And God said it's going to all end, you know, and all this was going to happen, and there's nothing we can do, because it's God's will."  And here you come with this updated Mayan, well, prophecy, spontaneous prophecy, it's all going to end in 2012.  And the New Agers will say, there's nothing you can do about it.  You know, it's just written that way.  This is the oldest con in the book.  Conology, the priest's con.  Kahn is priest, by the way.  So, you hear all of this stuff, and it's rubbish.

And the main thing is, you can find all the real stuff by the guys who implement it, and plan it, and write about it.  Arthur C Clarke was one of the highest Masons in Britain, and through two movies, written in the '60s, he goes through the beginning of the push for the New Way of things, which begins in 2001, hence the name of his first movie.  And it was to be completed by 2010, hence the name of his second movie.  You see, one of the highest Masons.  And it's nothing to do with what you think is in the movie.  It's set in space, and on earth, and in space, but it's actually the occultic journey.  And you'll see the one guy overcoming the computer, the sun, HAL, for Halogen, Halcyon.  And HAL, H-A-L, each letter after the alphabet is I and then you have B, and M.  IBM, the computer. He overcomes the master, you see, and becomes a god himself.  In 2010, you have him coming back as a god, who can go back and forth through time, never ages.  And he tells all the people on earth, "something wonderful is going to happen."  Can't tell them what, but "wonderful is going to happen".  Well, we know what it is, because at the Loyola meetings, we've all to have a brain chip by then.  And they said we'd all be interlinked in a form of electronic telepathy.  But they go further and tell you that there'd be no such thing as an individual once this has occurred.  It will be the end of individualism as we know it.  Of course, the elite will not take this, because they must retain their self-preservation, survival mechanisms, because they will be planning the destiny and steering the ship of earth.

This is where you'll find the real agenda.  They've been training everyone that we'll all be one.  We'll all be one.  And of course, the New Agers are falling into it, not knowing, hey, it's going to be done electronically.  Some will like it.  Some will think, this is fantastic, being linked up electronically; it's a natural evolution.  Well, I just wish I could find a planet for them to go to, and leave the rest of us alone.  Because if there's any natural abilities, they won't be used.  In fact, you won't be able to cultivate any natural abilities.  It will be the end of that.

So, this is the real world we live in.  It's been planned, down through the ages, for centuries, and thousands of years, to bring us to this step, of a well-ordered, planned society.  The United Nations, un in French, U-N, for one, is a sort of front man for this dominant minority who run the world, this inbred bunch that have selective breeding, like the Charles Galton-Darwin family breeding into one family, the Wedgwood family, for at least six generations.  That's all they married were Wedgwoods.  They made pottery, so I think all the Darwins are a bit potty, and that explains it.  Charles Darwin's own children, because of all this interbreeding for generations with them, his ten children, eight of them died right away.  One ended up dying soon after.  And I think the last one died in an insane asylum.  So then they started breeding with the Galton family.  And so Charles Galton family, wrote The Next Million Years.  Sir Charles Galton, 1950s wrote this book, boasting about the next million years they're going to control, if we let them, of course.  And he talked about the culling of the majority, since we won't need them anymore.  He says, if the ordinary masses breed any more, they'll overtake us, meaning the inbred elite, and wipe them out.  And so, he says, we better do it first to them.

And that's where we're going today.  All of the threats of war, this ongoing nonsense of terror everywhere, is all to get the public off balance, to allow the elite to terrorize us, and dictate to us what we must do.  And to give themselves the powers to do it.  Interestingly in 1998, Allan Rock of Canada, a sort of lifelong player in politics, who apparently is related to the Rockefellers according to rumor, but I can't verify that.  Allan, he's now, of course, ambassador to the UN.  When he was the Minister of Justice, he introduced an omnibus Crime Bill, which was introduced in the US at the same time by Mr. Bill Clinton.  And this really is the same thing as this new anti-terrorism bill, and they were pushing it through in 1998.  And it has in it then, and it did go through here in Canada, because being a good democracy, we have no say in it at all.  That's perfect democracy.  In it, it said, they could arrest anyone on any suspicion, and hold them indefinitely without trial, meaning for the rest of their lives, and no one would know where they went, etc, etc.  And even the reporters were scratching their heads saying, why is this being pushed now, when the world is so peaceful and happy and safe, etc.  Well, Mr. Rock took his orders from people above the prime minister.  He was in on the agenda.  And they were preparing the road for 2001, before it even happened.

Zbigniew Brzezinski put his book out in '98, talking about the need for this Pearl Harbor event.  He belonged to the New American Century Club.  A private club of the Bushes, Wolfowitzes, Cheneys, Rumsfelds, etc, who published their own agenda, first in '92, and then, again in '98, themselves.  It's still available, apparently on some websites.  And they go through the same scenarios, starting with Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, and so on.  And taking the oil.  So, we're just living through a script, right now.  And I want everyone to keep in their mind that the fifty-year plans, the hundred-year plans, etc, of Communism, are being used by us today.  We have five-year plans for this part of the agenda, ten for that, fifty for that.  It's the same bunch, running the same show, as always.  And that's why they have these MOs they leave behind them.

Now, in October 2005, a reporter, called Packer, wrote in the Boston Globe, and a few other papers across the country, what a senior advisor to the Bush administration said to the reporters that day.  And it's so important we realize that the advisors, you see, are more important than the front men.  In Masonry, number one is never the boss, it's always number two.  That's a Masonic fact.  Two is more important than one.  And the advisors are tremendously important, because they're unelected.  They are globalists, because they all implement through their own presidents or prime ministers, the same global agenda at the same time.  So, someone is training them.  In the occult, they call them the Grey Men, because their floor is the chessboard, the black and white, and they are the Grey Men.  They move between one world and the other to the real guys who rule the world.  So, they tell, they write the scripts.  The presidents read these scripts and prime ministers, and this is what one of these advisors, and script writers said, printed in the Globe and Mail, October 30th, 2005.

He said, "We are an empire now. (A: Now, that's the New American Century, you see, the Club they belong to.) And when we act, we create our own reality.  And while you are studying that reality, judiciously, as you will,  (A: Just like some of them on shortwave.  They just parrot what's happening today.)  we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too.  And that's just how things will work out.  We are history's actors, and you, all of you, will be left to study what we do."

A statement from the senior Bush administrative advisor.  And that's what they do.  They gave us spins on everything.  They give us fake realities.  People should watch Wag the Dog.  It went through the Bosnia war before it happened, just exactly as it eventually did happen.  They put it in our face, all the time.  And those who understand what's happening, must cultivate their own individuality.  Because the world they're creating is the world of absolute, total collectivism.  A worldwide plantation, where people will be grown for their purposes, to serve this world plantation.  Their thousand years of peace they call it, when we're all chipped and we're no longer us.  We're an it.  We're a Borg.  The original bee, B-org.  You see.  And it's up to individuals not to keep their head down and be timid, because this is a battle.  This is a battle for the mind, for the spirit, for the soul of every individual that's ever lived before us.  All the poor souls who've struggled and pioneered and done all the right things for thousands of years, but never knowing the agenda.  And it's also for those to come, because we do not have the right to say, "I'm okay.  Maybe I'll get through this and retire before the end comes."  That's the most selfish, opt-out, cop-out statement I've ever heard before.  This is a battle for all time, for the past, the present, and the future.  And people must stand up and be counted, and say their peace, and tell others, because, don't be cowered by tyrants' speeches and tyrants' threats.  You are an individual living, living, divine being.  And it's up to you to use that divinity.  Really use it and let it shine out there.

Anyway, that's all for tonight folks.  It was rather spontaneous, and I hope you tune in again, next week, when Jackie will be back on Wednesday, and Darren will be in on Monday, Tuesday.  Thank you very much.  Thank you.

Jackie Patru: Good Evening, folks.  Thanks for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  It is Wednesday, and it is the 8th of March, in the year 2006.  And I’m glad you’re with us tonight, folks.  Let me share a spiritual message here.  "Those who remember always that they know nothing, and who have become willing to learn everything, will learn it."  Alan, what are the Ides of March?  And when are they?

Alan: It generally goes up to about the 13th, altogether.

Jackie: But when does it start and what is it?

Alan: Well, it’s basically the beginnings in different conjunctions, with the sun and so on, and different stars.  And it was always foreboding of something ominous for some people.  Although, in the high mystery religion, their year begins in March.

Jackie: Who was it that said, "Beware the Ides of March?"

Alan: That was for the Caesar who got assassinated in Rome.  You know, "et tu Brutus."

Jackie: Okay.  Well, it just popped in my head.  I realized, you were talking last night about the March Hares.  And then the Ides of March popped in my head, and I realized I really don’t know what the Ides of March is.  Okay, alright, well.  Thanks for taking over last night, by the way.

Alan: Oh, it was no problem.

Jackie: I found my puppy, so, everything came out fine.  Well, there was something that we were talking about yesterday.  I think it was yesterday.  And I mentioned this to you, and I think you said that you wanted me to mention it on the air, because you wanted to say something about it, when I mentioned that I had, my pores were emitting a metallic odor.  And I had that happen some time ago, and it went on for a couple days.  Was that what you wanted me to bring up?  You wanted to say something about it?

Alan: I mean, this spraying that has so much aluminum oxide in it, is giving people strange, well, so many people have infections, bronchial, sinus infections because of the spraying.  They’re stepping it up big time.  And with aluminum oxide and barium in it, barium is also a sort of metallic salt, and titanium, another one, another metallic salt in it, and I know that last year I could taste a couple of times, in my mouth, the taste of aluminum.  And so, we’re absorbing this stuff by breathing it.  It’s in the water supply.  The vegetables pick it up, because they’re drawing up the moisture from rain and snow and so on.  So, we’re getting dosed and saturated with this stuff, and sometimes your body is trying to throw it off and get rid of it.  And it can come through the pores as well.

Jackie: That is exactly, it’s right in my pores.  And like I said, I can’t even shower it away.  I mean, it will be gone right after my shower.  I was upstairs vacuuming this evening, earlier.  And I was dressed too warmly, and I started perspiring a bit.  And it was really, it was there.  It was very evident, Alan.  But that would be good that the body is ejecting it, wouldn’t it?

Alan: If your body can still do that, it’s definitely good, because it’s accumulative in the body.  And some people are actually having, getting into this area of it, a lot of people are getting constipation today, and that’s another side effect of aluminum oxide.  It’s a binder.  It attracts all moisture to it, and so, it will constipate people.  That’s another major thing that’s happening on a wide scale, today.

Jackie: Well, I did notice that, you know, I don’t have a metallic taste in my mouth.  And I would think I would.  It’s just really being emitted, you know, from my skin.  Alan, a couple or three days ago, I don’t know when it was, I kept having this taste in my mouth.  I like lemons, and sometimes, I’ll just, you know, slice a lemon and salt it, and eat the lemon and the rind and everything.  And I haven’t been eating lemons, and it was absolutely a taste in my mouth like I had been eating lemons.

Alan: Well, that could be a bit of it too.  And it can actually make it taste initially sometimes like lemon, a citric juice, or even a sort of mild taste of onions, you know.  But once it gets heavier, you’ll actually taste it.  You’d think you’d actually licked an aluminum pot or a pan or something.  And it’s just incredible.  It’s happening all across the planet, except for China and Switzerland, apparently.  And most people are oblivious to it.

Jackie: Isn’t it amazing how many people know about this? because there are a lot of people who know about it, Alan.  And yet, not one thing has been done about it.  There’s total silence from the other side.

Alan: Absolutely.  That tells you, that a media that won’t tell you this, isn’t going to tell you truth on anything.  I hope people learn that basic lesson.  Because media is such an essential arm of government, to give us this reality, and all the nonsense within the reality.  It shows you the cohesive power of all media, when not one of the major ones will come out and even briefly or even sketchily mention what’s happening above the skies every day and falling on the people.

Jackie: I’ll tell you what they did back, I remember it was 1998 when I started talking about it on the broadcast.  In early 1998, because I was still on at 6pm.  And there were, oh, my goodness.  When I opened up the subject, I had calls coming from every place, Alan, and people who were very, very aware of it.  But then I think it was, oh, it was in the year.  One of the networks did, like ABC or one of them, they did about a three or four minute, a little thing on these chemtrails, only they didn’t call them chemtrails of course.  But they actually showed satellite pictures of them, and they claimed they were coming from passenger planes.  Commercial passenger planes.  Right, like they do loopty loops, and make checkerboards in the sky and little Xs and things like that.  But, you know, it probably, it satisfied a lot of people, I would imagine.

Alan: Yeah, a lot of people want to be satisfied, because they truly want to believe that the media is there to tell them what to think about, and what to warn them about.  They truly do believe that.  And Zbigniew Brzezinski said they were making, they were getting to a stage where the average individual would be unable to come to a reasoning conclusion, by themselves, and would actually subjugate themselves, and believe that the media is there to make their decisions for them, to think for them, and that’s happened with most people.  They want to believe they’re being well taken care of in fantasy land.  And in this wonderful, fascist, socialist structure, and they truly believe that they’re being well taken care of, and if there was anything worth knowing that was going to harm them, the media would tell them.

Jackie: Of course, and besides that our government would never do anything that would hurt us.

Alan: Oh, of course.  They’re there to help us, yeah.

Jackie: Well.  See, you see the whatever it is happened to people’s thought processes.  I’m sure that probably every single listener has experienced this.  I was talking to a friend last summer.  We were outside, and there happened to be some chemtrails being laid.  And I had mentioned them to him before, and I said, look up there, and he looked up, and I said, that’s what I was telling you about.  And then I made sure that, you know, I differentiated between a contrail, and most people know what a contrail is, but I even explained it to him, and I said, now you watch this and it isn’t going to go away.  And then I told him, that you know, there are websites, and that they have done samples, air samples and etc, and that there are heavy metals in them, barium and aluminum, and that they’ve even found viruses, etc, etc.  And you know what he said?  “I’ll be darned.”  That was it.  Not like, well, who’s doing this, or why are they.  Not any concern at all, Alan.

Alan: No, they literally will subjugate their own reasoning abilities, and their own, what should be their own perceptions, they’ve given them over to media, to do their thinking for them.  And Brzezinski said this was a scientific technique they’d been using on an increasing level since the 1950s, and they were setting it up in the ’70s, and we’re seeing the end product today, where the public truly, truly believe the media is an appendage to their brain to do their thinking for them.  They truly believe that.  And so, in other words, no matter what they see, if the media hasn’t told them to think or worry about it, they will dismiss it immediately from their mind.  That’s how simply it works.  It’s terribly simple.

Jackie: It’s terribly sad, too.

Alan: It’s awfully sad, absolutely.  And there’s also people who are finding that they’re getting memory blocking in their conversations.  You know, they’re forgetting names, or even where they were in their conversation.  This is becoming more common now and with the aluminum buildup in their bodies.  This is all part, of course, it’s a multi-faceted agenda, just the spraying alone, where they’re using the HAARP, the scalar technology, which Brzezinski also talked about.  Now, this guy was secretary of state for war, for a few presidents.  And he’s still an advisor to the present one.  And this was his speciality, this form of, he called it Technotronic warfare, where they could use this kind of scalar technology, basically create a massive conductor through the air, by metallic particles, and then beam these frequencies throughout the air, and the public, who would be saturated with this stuff, would become walking antennas.  And they would receive these signals.  It could make them placid.  It could alter their brain chemistry by stimulating certain things and slowing down others.  This is technotronic warfare.  And he wrote about it in his own book, Between Two Ages, and the chapter was called the Technotronic Era.  And in there also, you’ll find that part where he says the public will be unable to come to a reasoning conclusion by themselves shortly.  He goes through that in that book.  So, they’re actually doing it, you see.  It’s being done.  And in this last summer, I noticed, when it’s heavy in the summer, you’ll notice, you get shocks off your car, things you would get in the wintertime.  In a humid summer, you’re now actually getting shocks from doorhandles going into stores and things.

Jackie: Static electricity.

Alan: And that’s because the aluminum oxide is hygroscopic.  It attracts all moisture to it, binds it from the air, and takes it right down to the actual ground that you’re standing on, so that the air becomes dry, you see.  And that’s what’s causing that.  So, see we’re not just guinea pigs, we’re actually part of the final agenda here.

Jackie: It’s gone way beyond guinea pig stage.

Alan: Yes.  They were testing this stuff in the 1950s, they were testing it then.  It was interesting, and here’s how the con goes.  I call it the conology.  In the 1960s, this is typical, when the UFOs began to be seen.  And of course, Area 51 was making them.  They still are.  They diverted the attention to, oh, it’s from outer space.  So that immediately took the attention off into outer space, we’re not doing it, it’s the aliens that are doing it.  And, at the same time they did that, they started giving little blurbs in the newspapers, the same media that’s keeping quiet today, remember.  The media is saying, oh, strange things are happening.  There’s this angel hair coming down to the ground.  And they gave it the term angel hair, giving it this mystical, you know.

Jackie: Oh, they actually said that?

Alan: Oh, yeah.  It’s angel hair and the weirdest thing, they said at the time, the weirdest thing is that there’s always a UFO being seen in the vicinity before this stuff comes down.  So, right away, people are getting doused here and there with this big candy cane type floss coming down, in patches, over their cars and things.  And immediately, they’re all saying, because the media said so, oh, you know, there must have been aliens here, and UFOs.  Well, that was the testing of the stuff they’re dropping today.  Because, when it comes down in a cold atmosphere, it will often come down in big clumps.  It’s like the old cotton weeds, only they’re coming down through the sky, and they’re like candy cane, and once they hit the ground they sort of melt.

Jackie: Yeah, I think, you know, we were looking into the dimethyl bromide, what the heck is it called.  Oh, gosh, I can’t remember the name of it, this was one of the first emails I got about the chemtrails, and said, it’s confirmed.  EDB or something like that is in the chemtrails, and they gave the phone number of a lab in Ohio, that EDB, ethyl-dibromide.  EDB, I think ethyl-dibromide.  And they gave the phone number of the lab where you could call and confirm it.  Well, I tried, and it was the wrong number, but I called information and got the correct phone number of the lab he mentioned.  And I told him what I was calling for.  And they put me in touch with the man who had done the sampling.  And he said, I cannot give you the results of this, because it was a private person, you know, who had the sample done, and I can’t divulge it.  But he said, I will tell you this.  There’s no more than 10% EDB in that sample.  Okay, so, he admitted that EDB was in there.  I might be saying it wrong, but that’s what I think it is.  Anyway, I started doing some research on that.  They used it, initially, Alan, as a pesticide.  And they were just spraying it all over the food stored, corn, and wheat grains, and stuff like that, and the Department of Environmental Protection, in Texas, I’ve got all this stuff in files, in there in my studio.  They had demanded to do a study on this.  They had done many, many studies on it, but all the studies were done by the company that had manufactured it, and said, oh, it’s safe, safe, safe.  And suddenly, the federal EPA, put it, this was after it had been used for ten years, as a pesticide, they put an emergency stop on it, and said there is no safe level.  And then they started putting it in the JP8 fuel.  And I have the information on that, too, and even the manufacturer’s data, whatever they call it, safety data sheets.  And they were actually adding it to the jet fuel, and at that time, they were talking about making the JP8 fuel like an international type of fuel.  So, any commercial or military plane could fuel up anywhere in the world.  And they mentioned that this stuff freezes at about, I think it was 50 degrees.  So, you know, when they put it out in the air, up there, then it will fall down in these, what they were calling angel hair.

Alan: Now, what the angel hair was, was polymer.

Jackie: Okay, well, this stuff literally dissipates when it gets warmer.

Alan: Polymer was the carrying agent for viruses and bacterium.

Jackie: Well, this stuff was in those chemtrails at that time.

Alan: This stuff was actually tested in Britain, first in the ’50s, over the working class populations.  And then stepped up in America, tried out there in the ’60s, and ’70s, as they perfected the ratios of stuff.  And, of course, obviously, they were taking the pulse on the population, to see who was getting sick of what, and all the rest of it.  And then they had, what you’ll see in the sky, in the summertime especially, when they’re spraying, you’ll see, almost as though you’re looking through one of these clear, polythene type barrier material that you’ll get for putting over the basement, basically.

Jackie: Say that again, Alan.

Alan: In the summer, it looks as though, in the sky, when you’ll see that strange, distorted haze, up high in the sky, round the sun, it looks as though you’re looking through a plastic, a clear plastic polymer, a bag, basically, polyethylene bag.  And that’s what you’re actually seeing is polymer.  And these polymer strands were developed in the 1950s, for bacterial and viral warfare purposes.  They carry the live viral and bacterial agents to the ground.  That’s what they were developed for.  So, it’s quite amazing to watch it happening.  It’s even more amazing, as you’re well aware, that most people, as you say, it doesn’t register with them.  It’s not on the media.  So, I see it, but it must be irrelevant, because it’s not mentioned on the media.  But, believe you me, they have their pulse on the people, who’s getting sick.  All doctor’s offices today are computerized, pharmaceutical companies are the outlets.  The pharmacies are all computerized.  They have instant data flowing in every day on what’s selling, what’s been prescribed for what ailments and so on.  So, they know what’s happening.  And this is a must-be as they say in high Masonry.  Nothing must interfere with it, and hence, the total, total silence of the media.

Jackie: Well, they own the media.

Alan: They own it, yeah.  And the media is an essential arm of government.  Media means middle, you see.  They’re the middle men.  They market what we’re supposed to think, to us.  That’s what they do.  But this stuff, I’ve noticed just this month, here in Canada, and from the calls I’m getting in the States, they’ve stepped it up again, another notch.  And what I’ve noticed with the trails, the parallel trails, maybe four or five parallel trails, this new type of polymer they’re using now, this, I guess, new mixture, is spreading out faster than the old stuff, you know.

Jackie: It does, Alan.  It actually winds up you don’t see it.  It doesn’t cause those cirrus-looking clouds.

Alan: Yes.  Although, the other day, as I say, there was a clear, sunny day, to start.  I went out again, half an hour later, and there was a spiral polymer, literally a spiral, round the sun.  And this polymer had been blown that way, and I guess the wind had made the spiral shape, but it was like something from science fiction.  And you want to shout, you know, “hey, everybody, look,” but you know yourself, there’s no point.  I always think of that Beatles song, that, it was imagine yourself, it was to do with the strawberry fields, and tangerine trees and marmalade skies.  And I thought, boy the author of that, the real author of that song knew what was coming, you know.  Because we’re now seeing these odd phenomenon in the sky now.  Signs in the heavens, eh?  Who would’ve thought what it would’ve been?

Jackie: I told you I saw that red streak across the sky.  This was a few weeks ago, when I was letting the girls out.  It was late.  It was not anything from the sun.  And it was not any thing from any city around here, because there aren’t any.  Besides that, the horizon was black of night, and this was above, and it went all the way from the east to the west.  And it was a pretty fat line, was a reddish, rose color.

Alan: What happens when the sun goes down, at that certain height there’s still sunlight passing through that, that height, at thirty thousand feet or whatever.  And the metallic particles reflect the setting sun.  Sometimes you’ll even see them spraying above a cloud.  The spray comes down through the cloud in a straight line, and it’s darker than the actual cloud itself.  So, there’s different kinds being used here, you know.  It’s quite something.  This is worldwide, this is the biggest, this is the real war that’s going on all the time.

Jackie: It is, the depopulation.

Alan: It is.  And they want a tranquilized, dumbed-down people, as we go through the biggest changes, as they, in their own words, the CFR, and the Royal Institute have said, the biggest changes since the beginning of the industrial revolution.  So, they want a dumbed-down population, who will just float through it.  And then at the end of it, they’ll wonder, how on Earth did we end up here.  If they’re able to think at all, that is.

Jackie: No, well they won’t.  It will seem normal to them, Alan.

Alan: I know, I know.  As long as that television comes on with the same soaps, and comedies, and smiling faces, and the news anchors keep telling you about what you should think about, then that’s true.  Everything will still be normal to them.  Even if the sky is turquoise or rainbow colored all over, as long as the media tells them everything’s fine, they’ll believe it.

Jackie: So, the guys have their sports and the women have their shopping.

Alan: That’s it.  Sports, sex, shopping, and all the rest of the trivia, that’s marketed to their brains.

Jackie: Well, shopping seems to be becoming an avocation, for women.  I hear when the guys are around and talking and complaining about it, about all the shopping that their wives and girlfriends do.  I had no idea, I mean, how intense it was.  And they got talking about it, a couple of weeks ago, and they’ll actually go out for twelve hours, because I said, well, maybe they’re bored, you know.  You guys are always out hunting, you know, and getting together and making your beef jerky.  Twelve hours of shopping.  They go to lunch, they go shopping, they have lunch.  They go have shopping, they go to dinner, and they shop till the malls close.  And he said, they will drive, and this is, we’re in a rural area.  People around here aren’t very well heeled, Alan.  But of course they have their plastic.  But they’ll drive a hundred miles to a mall.  The malls close by just don’t appease them anymore.  And this is serious.  I had no idea.  But I guess it’s kind of a common thing.

Alan: It is.  Again, an artificial system, as a city, especially, and that’s where we get all our ideas from, it’s from the beehives of the city, different cities.  Since they are abnormal, they can only create more abnormalcy.  And we’re seeing the end product now all around us, of deviant behavior.  This is deviant behavior.

Jackie: It is.  And you know what it made me think about after 9/11?  It was the Sunday that same week, and they were showing an empty stadium in New York, and they were likening it, comparing it to the church, that people in America worship, you know, the way they want.  Many people, this is how they worship on Sundays, coming to football games.  And today, the church.  And then they were showing the empty benches, bleachers, and said, these are the pews of this church, and today the pews are empty, but next Sunday, the big game, you know, da-da-da.  And I was shocked at watching that.  I turned around to walk down the hall.  And I heard the announcer say, no music.  There was silence before, and there was silence after.  And he said, resume your shopping.

Alan: Gee whiz.

Jackie: Resume your shopping.  And I turned around, and I said, oh, my gosh.  They were giving a command.  It’s over now, folks.  Resume your shopping.

Alan: Well, that’s what it’s coming to.  The people have become, it’s in that movie, it was made back in the 70s, called Network.  And the guy in it, it’s a comedy, he says to the audience...

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Jackie: We’re back.  Folks, I’m sorry.  I didn’t hear our warning for the break, and Alan was talking.  And Alan, would you repeat what you were saying, just before the break?

Alan: Yeah, there was a movie.  It’s worth getting a hold of, because see, movies preprogram us for what’s to come, so that when it actually happens in reality, it’s kind of familiar and we accept it.  And sometimes movies are also a form of legality.  These characters who run the world are very legal in a sense.  They’ll show you things, and it’s shame on you if you don’t really get the message.  And that movie, Network, came out, in the 60s or 70s, it was a comedy.  And it’s about a guy, an anchorman, who just had enough one day, and started telling the people the truth.  And he tells them that we’ve been fooling you all these years.

Jackie: He did it, right live.

Alan: And he becomes a sort of a little new messiah type thing of the media, because he’s telling the truth to the people.  And he gets from behind his desk, and goes down into the audience, that’s all sitting there, and he says, for God’s Sake, you’re the real people, he says, we are the phonies.  Behind the screen is this square cube.  He says, we’re the phonies; why do you want to copy us?  You see.  And that’s what we’re seeing today.  The people are being programmed, and have been programmed, all their lives really, through a very clever scientific technique, marketed to them via that one-eyed monster there in their living room, the television.  So, whatever is popular on there, they will emulate.  We know the children get their Much Music, which is called the children’s culture.  And they learn the new buzz words from there too, and their fashions.  And the adults are the same.  I mean, the soaps for donkey’s years, have been encouraging affairs.  And then all the magazines suddenly appear, at the checkout counters, about affairs and how good it is for you, you know.  So, all of society is manipulated by professionals, generally starting it under the guise of entertainment.  And as Plato said, thousands of years ago, monkey see, monkey do.  And the public will copy what they see.  Ancient technique, well understood, and scientifically introduced with modern technologies.  So, that’s how simple and easy it is, to create culture, to alter culture, and to constantly manipulate it, along a certain path, so the people will always go that way.  It’s guaranteed.  There’s only a small percentage in any era or generation, who are truly conscious, you know, a small percentage.  At one time they estimated it was around 87% who were under the influence of the world and their brainwashing.  I think it’s closer to maybe 95% today.

Jackie: I was going to say at least 93.  You said, you’re hearing, you’ve been doing other radio interviews, and you’ve been on one that actually has AM and FM affiliates.  And that you’ve been getting calls from people, literally all over the world that are waking up.

Alan: These people, what I’ll tell you is I think, and here’s the key to it, what I do is to go for the people who have taken the first step themselves.  And this is again the ancient meanings, even in the Bible.  They give you the same ancient meanings in all the holy books because one group wrote them all.  And there’s truths in there.  The dead are the dead.  The dead are those in every generation, who go along to get along, change nothing in their life.  They don’t help create a destiny.  They follow a predetermined destiny laid out by their masters.  They leave nothing behind them, really, when they die.  And those people are classed as the dead.  So, what I do is to reach out to those who have taken the first step to get up from the dead, and they must do it by themselves to begin with.  They might not have the data, but there’s something in them that’s alive, and they have to get the data to go further, and really that’s what I do.  You cannot make people stop being...

Jackie: You’re saying that the people that are calling you are people who are awake, but they just don’t have all the facts.

Alan: They’re often very confused.  They know everything is wrong.  That’s generally what they’ll say is, I know everything is just wrong, and I’ve always known it, but they’re not able to verbalize it and put it into a coherent formula as to exactly what’s wrong.  And once they hear someone speaking who understands it, they immediately identify with it.  And now they start to understand more of it.  But they generally are different from their fellows to begin with.  They’ve always, as I say, had a spark in them to be different.  And they’ve generally questioned things.  They might not have got all the answers, but they’ve questioned things much more intensely.  The majority of the public question nothing.

Jackie: You said the other day that there is like a connection, a likeness between those of us who somehow have escaped it.

Alan: Oh, there’s no doubt.  And, what I do know is that there’s a caring, and this is the part of it, there’s a caring about people in general.  Not just those alive today, but those who have gone before, to bring us to where we are, and those who should come after us.  There’s a real caring and a sadness to see what’s happening, in a world where the vast majority of the public do not care.  I mean, the average person today can watch their, it’s so common now.  It started with the Vietnam War in earnest, but they can sit and have their dinner with their family, and listen to bombs going off, families getting blown up, all this kind of stuff, and they munch away on their fast food dinners and stuff, and it does not even touch them.  It’s like another movie to them.   And it’s as though it’s distant and they’re out of it.  They’re not really involved.  Well, it’s their tax money, and their own children that are over there doing the killing.  They’re so detached from others, and the pain and suffering of others, that I keep telling them, if you don’t cry for those over there, who’s going to cry for you.  You see.  And that’s what you’re dealing with.

You’re dealing with, and this was shown in the Matrix movie, the Matrix first movie, because that was an occult movie, and people actually are cheering the wrong things.  There’s a double message, all the way through it, esoteric one too.  And in the first movie, you get glimpses of this all the way through it.  The land of the dead, those who are still in the Matrix and believe it’s all real.  That’s level one reality.  That’s what I call it, because there’s other levels above this one, in high technology and so on.  And in the practice Matrix, where Neo is taken in, and shown people just walking around the streets and so on, Morpheus, the shape changer, tells him, he says to him, everyone around you here is your enemy until they wake up.  Which means, you see, the average person, if they’re told to spy on everybody else, which they’re starting to do with all the ads and that, they will turn people in who are different.  People who are saying things which are not on the media, and authorized by the media.  And so, those people around you, the dead, the land of the dead, the obedient zombies, will turn on those who are awake and who care.  Isn’t that something?

Jackie: Oh, I know.

Alan: The ones who don’t care, are the ones who will kill you and think they’re doing their government and the world a favor.

Jackie: I experienced that when Chuck and I went to those watershed meetings.  And I was asking questions.  I mean, everything they were doing was questionable.  And I would just raise my hand and ask a question.  And I guess it was about the third meeting, and most of the people there were the people that were implementing it. There were very few actual citizens, of the quote, "Seeley Creek Watershed."  They were outnumbered, well outnumbered by all of the facilitators.  But there was this one couple.  And they sat.  And I knew they were hearing the questions, and I had a feeling that they were beginning to wake up to the scam of this thing.  And it was either the third or fourth meeting, Alan, and I asked a question, and this man jumped up, and he says, he screamed at me, and he said, I’ve had it.  He said, "You have disrupted every single meeting that you have come to.  And I’m out of here."  And they stalked out, storming mad.  And none of the questions that were asked, it meant nothing to him.  They just sat like little smiling zombies, going through the motions, voting for everything that these people wanted.

Alan: Yeah, it’s almost as though they were straight out of school, because that’s how they’re trained in school.  You do groupthink in school.  You know the agenda, because the teacher tells you it, what you’re supposed to come to the conclusions.  And if you’re good, you get a gold star.  And that’s how they go through their whole life.  They go through their life obeying tyrants.  I mean, that’s how all tyrannies occur.  That’s why they occur and how they’re allowed to occur.  They need the people, because the people, who are base, will give their power to the beast in every age.  That’s the sad part of it.  And they will crucify those who try and help them and help those that should come after.  It’s a selfish, selfish world that does not care about people who are supposed to come after them.  It’s incredibly sad.

Jackie: Or even their own children, Alan.

Alan: I know.

Jackie: Even their own children.  And that’s why you know it can’t be registering.

Alan: Yes, it’s not.

Jackie: It cannot be registering, or they couldn’t just keep being in that system.

Alan: I’ve lost count of how many people I’ve talked to, who said, oh, thank God, I’ll probably be dead by the time all of this comes to a conclusion.  That’s the most common answer you get.  In other words, ‘I’m okay.  I’ve slipped through.  I might just get my pension, go fishing and do what I want to do and then die.’  They have no connection or feelings towards or attachments to those who have still to come.  None at all.  They’re dehumanized, desensitized.  They’re totally selfish.  And we have to accept that, you know.  We have to accept that.  And being caring doesn’t mean just about those around you, or your immediate family.  You see, there’s a much, much greater thing to this world than all of that, and these people don’t feel any of it.  Simply caring about your family is just instinct, you see.  It’s natural instinct.  But when you can spread that out to others, and you understand the past, you’re connected to the past, the present, and the future, it’s a completely different thing altogether.  And it’s not something you go around saying just love everybody.  Just love everybody.  That’s not it at all.  There’s a complete difference of having a connection and an empathy towards everything, as opposed to the big boys at the top, who have told us, ‘all you need is love,’ you know.  Like the Beatles song, written by their scriptwriter.  And one thing is too, you can never love a beast or a beast system, I should say.  I’m not classifying animals amongst the beasts in this statement.

Jackie: You what?

Alan: I’m not classifying animals amongst the beasts here.  I see the ones in suits and ties, who say all the things that every tyrant in history has ever said, but because they don’t wear a uniform, and we’re conditioned to believe only tyrants wear uniforms, it doesn’t register with the public, you know.  In their suits and ties, the Masonic outfit is a suit and tie, you know.  That’s why the suit and tie is the most respectable uniform on the planet, in any country.  And all judges and lawyers will tell you, you appear in court with a suit and tie.  That’s because it’s a Masonic outfit.  It tells you you’re giving obeyance to their system.  And the tie is your tow cable.  That’s part of your initiation.  They put the rope around your neck in a noose.

Jackie: And then they pull the wool over your eyes, Alan.

Alan: And that’s the limitations of your understanding.  That’s what it means, the end of that tow rope.  So, you put that tie on, you’re under their system.  Everything in this system is Masonic, and all these little idiots at the bottom of the heap, the low Masons, haven’t a clue what they really belong to.  They haven’t a clue.  And they give, the one thing that they all do is take an oath to obey this system, regardless.  So, no matter how corrupt it is – and Masons certainly help to make it corrupt, scratching each other’s backs with your tax money – they will uphold it.  So, it’s a pirate type system, really, piracy.  That’s why you have conspiracy.  It’s Con’s Piracy, priests and piracy go together.

Jackie: I bet you very few of us have anybody in our near vicinity, that we can actually sit down face to face with.  All of my friends are telephone friends.

Alan: Yes, that’s right.

Jackie: And so many of them, we’ve never met.

Alan: Yeah, and they’re all over, scattered, generally isolated.  And that’s what I try and do, I tell them, phone, contact, because you’ve got to realize there’s other people out there the same as yourself.  You’re not alone.  Because they’re aware.  They’re aware of what’s happening.  And for many of them, it’s kind of scary understanding what’s happening, and they feel isolated.

Jackie: And it’s a lonely place to be, when you don’t know anybody else, and you think you’re the only one.  I remember when I heard George Bush, "W", George, Poppy Bush, you know about the first Gulf War and the New World Order, and I thought I was the only person that heard that.  I mean, literally, I did, because I didn’t know anybody that you could talk to.

Alan: That’s the worst thing.  And that’s the scariest thing for those who are waking up on their own, and they’ve put a leg in front to try and step up, from the dead, and they feel so isolated.  They have to be acknowledged by others who are in the understanding of this, and they should try and keep in touch.  It’s so important in this day and age, to keep in touch, and they’ve got to do it, you know.  They have to do it, because...

Jackie: Well, it helps you keep your sanity.

Alan: There’s sanity, but there’s also a power there too.  It’s almost like putting batteries together, you know.  And once your mind is linked with someone of a similar ilk, there’s always that contact there.  You’re never really alone, you know.

Jackie: I like that.  Thank you for saying that.  I like that.

Alan: But that’s what they have to do.  And one way or another, they all seek out, you see, and they get caught in the...  I liken the waking up process to coming out of a long, long tunnel, and you see a light at the end, and then you come into a field, and you see a field that seems wide and beautiful and I’ll just run across here, and then, whack, you hit the shortwave radio thinking, well this is different.  It’s a different media.  And yet most, as you know, of the shortwave is controlled as well, if not all of it.  And they can keep you wrapped up in different fallacies, and keep you going in circles, to try and disable you.

And so you have to remember that field, really, go cautiously across it, and be very discerning on your way.  Because these boys who run the world, don’t miss a trick, and they’ve kept power by this very process of trying to always look for those who wake up.  How do we catch them?  How do we waste their time?  How do we get them to endlessly go in circles? and they supply us with leaders.  And we’ve got to remember that.  Albert Pike said that in his own book; he was the Pope of Freemasonry.  The man who said, make no mistake, Freemasonry is a religion; and people should really get that message.  It’s a religion.  And he said we always give the people their leaders.  They give everybody their leaders.  All sides.  So, the trick is to be tremendously discerning, and use that sixth sense, that instinct you have there to never just rush into something.  They always say that fools rush in where angels fear to tread.  And so you never rush, where you say, oh, this guy is saying all the right things, I’ll follow this guy.  And, of course they give us pied pipers, as they have down through the years.  The shortwave was full of them, all ex-CIA guys, ex-FBI guys, ex-Special Forces guys, that’s exactly what attracts the American psyche, you see, a hero.  And they get led a merry dance, and waste their time.

Jackie: And they have somebody for everybody.

Alan: Yes, they do.  And again, there’s a huge business behind all of that too.  They lump in all of the health food industry with it, and miracle products, that God wrote himself with his own hand on walls, and stuff like this.  And I just can’t stand the conology as I call it, the priestology, that’s used on the public.  But, those who are really wise, know what works, what doesn’t, and who to avoid, etc.  You know.  And people can get addicted to the bad news.  And the shortwave, they make a point of telling you on a day by day basis, what Mr. Bush is saying, what Mr. Rumsfeld is saying, and what everybody else is saying and doing.  That’s irrelevant.  As long as you know the whole agenda, the plan.

Jackie: You don’t need all those nitty-gritty details.

Alan: Yeah, the players that are put in front of you really are irrelevant, because they can get other faces to fill the spot if they wanted to.  You just need to know the long-term agenda and prepare yourself as best you can to get through the catastrophes I’m sure that they have planned for us.  And keeping your food, your basics and so on, is essential really, to get through.  We saw what happened in Louisiana, you know.  And how FEMA cut off all the telecommunications for the whole state.  And what they did in New Orleans, you know the people weren’t allowed to even help each other.  So, we see what can happen in any city, during a catastrophe, or if they release a plague, or whatever they do.  People should be as self-sufficient as possible to get through a period, and hope, of course, there’s always a chance you’ll get moved off of where you are anyway.  And maybe all you’ll get is in a backpack.  We have to always take that into consideration.  But basic essential foods and so on, are just common sense these days.

Jackie: (Dog Barking) Mariah, it’s okay.  Mariah barks at rabbits.  I’m sorry about that.  She does.  She watches out the window.  I didn’t know dogs had that great of vision at night.

Alan: Yes, they can.  They can also sense them as well.

Jackie: But I think that’s what she does, is sense them, because she jumps up from a total laydown.  Well, Alan, you know, we’re almost out of our hour here.  And maybe one night, we should zero in on some suggestions that you have for people on being as self-sufficient as possible.  Because, you know, try to get through it as best we can.  Geez.  Most people are in the dark as to even...

Alan: Well, most people will stay in the dark, it’s only for those who are waking up.

Jackie: I’m talking about our listeners.

Alan: And they can’t put it off.  Actually it’s best to always buy in times of plenty, as they say, because you won’t get it when it’s scarce.

Jackie: Yeah, lots of dried stuff.

Alan: Even if it’s sitting there for a year, it’s still worth it.

Jackie: Mention your website.

Alan: It’s http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com.

Jackie: Yeah, and you don’t even have to say the www.

Alan: I don’t, eh?

Jackie: That’s a given, honey.

Alan: Is it really?  That’s 666, that, www.

Jackie: Is it?

Alan: Yeah, in the Hebrew language.  666.

Jackie: Good Lord.  I didn’t even realize that.  It is.  Oh, my, my. 666.  Well, you don’t have to say the http://www.  It’s cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  ...And if Julie is listening, I got the book, Julie, and it’s very intriguing.  She sent me a book about the Ancient Symbols, and Myths, and etc, and it’s utterly fascinating, Alan.  You know, Ishtar, the Queen of the Heaven. Like Mary, the Queen of the Heaven.  And what’s his name, her husband was the good shepherd.

Alan: They’re all good shepherds.

Jackie: I know.  We have to go, folks.

Jackie: Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty and it is Tuesday the 21st of March in the year 2006.  Alan Watt is with us, folks, and I know you’ve been anxiously awaiting Alan’s return. Alan, thanks for being here tonight.

Alan: Yes, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie: I got an email message from Leo in England. Have you talked to him?

Alan: I haven’t talked to him but he’s sent quite a few.

Jackie: I like that. That is so neat to know that it isn’t just here in the states but actually all over the world that people are listening and it’s uplifting to know that we have an opportunity still, Alan, to present truth to people who are searching for truth. Of course you’ve been such a big part of that for us eight years ago taking us out of that forest so that we could see the trees.

Alan: Yes, I know.

Jackie: And oh my God, what a journey it’s been.

Alan: It’s been a thick forest.

Jackie: A very thick forest. Before I forget, folks, excuse me. You know that Alan has a website for those of you, unless you are a brand new listener, his website is cuttingthroughthematrix.com I always forget the ending of email addresses. Cuttingthroughthematrix.com. He’s linked there and the links at Sweet Liberty if you’re listening from the Sweet Liberty website and also in several other places. Alan has made a home video and you can go over to his website and watch it and it is just wonderful and you get to meet Alan Watt face to face at least. We get to meet him and it was besides the information that he imparts on that video, to me it was just such a pleasure to put a face to the voice but to watch his inflection as he talks. I know that Alan is sincere or Alan would never have been on this broadcast as many times as he has, but to be able to sort of sit there with him while he’s talking. I appreciated that very much and so don’t go now but after the broadcast if you have time tonight or whenever, go over. It’s right there on the main page and you’ll see a screen like a TV screen that says, "Reality Check," and oh my goodness it’s great. Alan, that was so great.

Alan: So I’m not a robot after all.

Jackie: Mr. Spock. You are not Mr. Spock.

Alan: I know these robots are getting awful lifelike, though, you know.

Jackie: Yes they are, aren’t they, Alan. Well, I really enjoyed that. I guess for the first 15 minutes of listening to it I was just sitting grinning while I was hearing it because, Alan, we’ve had hundreds of hours of conversation besides the radio broadcasts and I really liked that. It was like sitting there with you actually what it was. Next best thing I guess. So what is it – did I leave anything out of that or what--

Alan: Oh there’s a good cartoon there they should look at, to do with the gun boats now being armed with machines guns on the Great Lakes and so I’ve got a good cartoon in there to follow that up. You see a picture is worth a thousand words.

Jackie: And I had to have you explain it to me.

Alan: I know, but I think everybody else – I know the Department of Defense has got it because they’ve been looking at the website.

Jackie: Have they?

Alan: Yes, NSA, and I’m sure it’s doing the rounds.

Jackie: Well, sometimes I just a little naive or something because I felt silly after you explained it to me.

Alan: Well, with a cartoon you’ve got to sit back and let the first impression just come in. If you look too hard at a cartoon you lose it you see.

Jackie: Maybe that’s what I did.  Alan, do you have anything particular that you want to cover tonight?

Alan: Just this doublethink we’re getting, this doublethink with the flu coming in. The CBC talked about and had one specialist – they have all these specialists to give us doublethink. Half of the specialists are trying to terrify us and the other bunch come on saying, well, it’s all a lot of nonsense, it’s fuss over nothing; and so they get the people in doublethink so they’re not sure what to believe anymore.

Jackie: They’re their actual own opposition experts saying that it’s going to come to nothing?

Alan: That’s right. I’m mean there’s more folk died of the common cold this year than this bird flu.

Jackie: Let's remember that according to reports during the time the Spanish flu was taking around the country, from what we gather, it was people who were vaccinated the ones that didn’t make it through.

Alan: Always. It's the same with most of the big inoculation experiments that have done since the 1800's even; they made it mandatory in the 1880's in Britain that people had to get smallpox and different things and they followed out of maybe 20,000 people, 19,000 of them died of smallpox – all of whom were inoculated. This is traditional. They’ve given them the diseases that they claim to be fighting and again it’s doublethink because the public have been trained that the new priests – you see the old priests used to wear the black, the ones who dealt with the commoners; now it’s the ones with the white coats, the new priesthood.

Jackie: The new priesthood.

Alan: Yes, and we’re trained through television dramas and so on that it’s all so perfect and it’s pure science and all this stuff, even though their theories keep on changing every couple of years. They’ve trained the public to obey, obey, obey and sure enough, they run off to get the flu shots which do them no good whatsoever because it’s always last year’s flu shot they get and the thing is supposed to mutate at such a speed that by the time you get the flu it's been mutated a thousand-odd times.

Jackie: Yes and from a report I read to our listeners last week, it seemed that the guy had really done his homework. He said it can actually mutate twice within one individual.

Alan: Oh, easy. It’s so simple.What they’re doing is using people – when you alter a virus you see and they’ve been doing this for God knows how long, they’ve been actually altering viruses. It’s probably a very ancient technique, but in World War II we have documentation on them actually doing it, how they did it and so on, and they used different animals et cetera to mutate the viruses and then they’d use animals to breed them up and they call these animals "breeders."

Now they’re using humans of course to be the breeders. They give you the shot. You become the breeder or the fast breeder and then you shed off the virus to each other around you and carry it around in society. This is just bunkum science is what it is and it’s pretty dangerous at the same time.

Jackie: I recall reading reports back in the 1800's. You were talking about that it was made mandatory.Every country where they made the vaccines mandatory is where the worst outbreaks were.

Alan: Yes, always.

Jackie: And then once they weren’t mandatory anymore, there were no more outbreaks.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: Also, this is what blew me away, Alan. They didn’t really make a smallpox vaccine. They made a cowpox vaccine.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: The smallpox vaccine was made from the cowpox, so people weren’t even getting a vaccine that would have any effect on smallpox anyway.

Alan: Yes, but it cut down on the flatulence.

Jackie: Okay, you’re going to make that joke and I’m laughing, but maybe our listeners don’t understand what you--

Alan: If they're so far back, we’ll let them catch up.The thing is, actually they did that. They passed a fart tax in New Zealand on the methane created by cows. I mean the government actually put a law through the farmers have to pay the tax and they call it the "fart tax". That’s the truth and that’s how ridiculous things have gotten to you know. That’s how ridiculous it is with bureaucrats and these little petty priesthood scientists talking about how we’re destroying everything that they end up taxing that. I think there’re just going so far to see what they can actually do to us.

Jackie: And probably just roaring with laughter.

Alan: Oh, I’m sure.

Jackie: They do these things. I remember, Alan, quite a few years ago there was a report, a small report that the UN was issuing that they were measuring literally the flatulence, the farts from the cattle. They were talking about prohibiting the breeding of cattle here in the states and doing it strictly in South America because of course the flatulence, the methane gas was causing the greenhouse effect and of course I guess when they got to South America they weren’t going to fart anymore, right?

Alan: Well, what it was, they don’t care about the people who live in the Southern Hemisphere. If it all gathers there, they don’t really care.

Jackie: If it was causing the greenhouse effect, it’s going to happen anywhere.

Alan: Oh, we know that.

Jackie: That’s what I mean.

Alan: It’s all nonsense. It’s no different than King James with his fresh air tax and light tax. It’s the same old rubbish where they’ll tax anything you dream about. I mean that’s the problem now. There are so many taxes on everything they’ve got to be very inventive and so they bring out again their paid prostitutes specialists to give some psychobabble or some techno-babble and explain why they’ve got to have a new tax to stop this, or stop that, or whatever. It’s all to bamboozle the public into going along with something which is really just another tax grab, something which is ridiculous, and that’s what they’re doing.

Once we have the brain chip in, then they’ll monitor our breaths, you know, every breath you take, like the police song, "every move you make, I’ll be watching you." They already have this in the NASA astronauts' spacesuits; they have little chips which monitor their heart, their weight, their pulse, their blood pressure and their respiration weight et cetera and even how they sweat and the body temperature. However, when you get a little brain chip you see it will do all that too; and if you go over your limit for the day, they’ll probably tax you or fine you for having too many gulps of air. People might laugh and it is laughable of course, at the moment, but that will come one day. You know that will come one day and they'll have a whole school of theories to explain to us why it must be, you see, until we all parrot what they say, because that’s the society we live in; it’s run by these new priesthoods.

In the middle ages the Roman Catholic Church had one of the great synods, the great meetings, and all the wise men from all over the Catholic world came and the priests and the monks and all the different sects and friars and they debated for weeks how many angels could stand on the head of a pin, you know. You see nothing’s changed except they keep telling us we’re more civilized and advanced now and it’s done scientifically, but it’s the same rot, nonsense, when they come up with all these theories they pluck out of the air and try to make a science out of it and a doctrine out of it. Then they explain to the public why it must be so and we parrot it too. It’s the same techniques which have been used for thousands of years on the public. It hasn’t changed.

Jackie: Alan, I don’t mean to change the subject on us, but you and I were talking one evening and you were talking about the New Age, the Age of Aquarius, and you gave me a background on that. On your video on your website I thought that’s what you were going to do and I think you kind of got off track because you mentioned the Age of Aquarius. Would you explain to our listeners what you explained to me about that?

Alan: Aquarius – you see there’s multifaceted levels I could explain. I’ll give the main one and it’s to do with the legend. See, the legend of Aquarius is basically of the most beautiful – it’s mythology – the most beautiful boy who lived in the Grecian Islands – this is the esoteric story and one day he fell into the water --

Jackie: What was his name?

Alan: It comes from a Greek term – there’s different names for the same thing and the Latin version ends up being Aquarius, the water--

Jackie: Did you say Ganymede?

Alan: Ganymede is the Greek. In fact, they have a Ganymede Observatory in England named after him. He fell into the water and of course Zeus the big god you see who basically was a Hugh Hefner of his time. He sort of was into anything and everything. Zeus came, dived down and raped him – saved him and raped him at the time, because Zeus had to dominate everything you see and he didn’t care if it was male or female, but he wanted this beautiful, beautiful boy. According to mythology, the exoteric, he placed him into the heavens afterwards with the symbol of the bowl of water, the water bearer, and of course the Romans took it over and made it into Aquarius.

What's behind the legend is another thing, it's towards the time we’re living at, the Age of Aquarius, where the New Order was to come in – the new type of human is really what it's to be. Therefore, that is why it wasn’t until now that they started pushing – and people are wondering why did it start? Why is so important to start pushing homosexual marriage and so on now?

It was because it was the wrong time before. They go by this calendar in the sky, this plan, and they had to bring up the status of the homosexual now, you see, but not for the homosexual’s sake. Everyone who joins or belongs or identifies with a group is being used for a plan they don’t understand, and the homosexual movement has been used right along too.

The whole idea is to get culture in such a flux where nothing can be normal anymore. There’s nothing to compare normal to, if it keeps changing, you see. Once they get you into a flux where anything goes, like the old song, anything goes, then they can bring forth within this context a new type of human, which will be a clone type hermaphroditic self-reproducing, a perfect slave, though not the master, but the perfect slave. That’s really what it means.

The homosexual movement has been used to destroy the old culture, the old norm to bring in the new and of course homosexuals will be out in the cold eventually with everybody else because their job will be over once the new type of slave replaces them. That’s really what it’s all about because the old man is to be destroyed afterwards you see.

It’s to serve the elite, this new type of programmed part-CYBORG type of being, the hermaphrodite, so that’s why Aquarius was the age to bring all of this in.

The Thousand Years of Peace according to the mystery religions is literally when we’re all probably chipped and connected to computers like the Borg and can’t think for ourselves, we’re just robots in a sense, and there’ll be no trouble from the people anymore, the slaves. That’s what they’re after in the Age of Aquarius.

It’s nothing to do with retaining a conscious mind and making nice decent decisions to all get along together. That was a con game they foisted upon the public to do with the absence of consciousness.

Individuality will be gone totally once the chip comes in, but they put this into their ancient plan and see Revelations is a plan. You reveal a plan, reveal, revelation. You reveal it. You see it’s not a prophecy—

Jackie: Thank you. Say that again.

Alan: Revealing. 'Revel' from Revelations is to reveal. You reveal a plan. You don’t prophecy a plan. You reveal a plan you see and that’s why they could write the Old Testament, which was an amalgamation of all the sun gods that have before and put into the story in one of the gospels where Jesus said before riding in on triumph on a colt et cetera, a donkey, he says go to town and find a colt tied up and the man carrying a picture of water. He was telling you that his reign would last as long as Pisces because Aquarius the picture of water would then take over. That’s what it meant.

Jackie: In other words, he was saying it or they allegedly said he said it?

Alan: Well sure, they wrote it all. I mean the same bunch that gave the religions for everything wrote it all.

Jackie: Thank you.

Alan: That’s how clever it is. They actually give you all these clues and for 2000 years you've had blind priests and ministers giving you exoteric stories and everybody believing it and they cause pitch battles amongst each other when they can’t understand it, but it’s all esoteric. It’s nothing to do with what it seems to be. It’s an astronomical plan and the great time clock.

Jackie: When you say astronomical, not in the way we use the word sometimes, but literally it’s all based on astronomy – astrology.

Alan: Well, astronomy really – astrology is the art of the meanings behind on a different level, again; but George Bush, Sr. when he gave his famous speech on the New World Order coming into view, he said, "I can see a New World Order coming into view," coincidentally, in 1990 and ’91, both on September the 11th of course.

Jackie: We have each of those excerpts from those speeches in the website with the dates on them, Alan.

Alan: That’s right. I mentioned them years ago.

Jackie: I hope there's a lot of people that know today the 911 – you know, call 911 if you’re in trouble.

Alan: That’s right. That’s why it’s there. Anyway, in the speeches he said everything was going to the heavenly plan and what he was referring to was the zodiacal – the timetable, the clock, because every part of what they gave us as the astronomical chart or astrological chart is part of a timetable, the great timetable for the Great Work, you see. We’re now in the Age of Aquarius, and even then they’re arguing about when exactly it started.

Jackie: Right, when it came in.  Now, talking about their timetable, tell us what you can about the Mayan Calendar, which I understand ends in 2012?

Alan: But who said that, though?

Jackie: Well that’s what I – anything I’ve ever read said the Mayan Calendar only goes to 2012.

Alan: You only get this stuff recently you see in the last few years.

Jackie: Well see, I got a Mayan Calendar, and Alan, I couldn’t understand it.

Alan: Until a few years ago it’s always been the same. Nobody else could understand it either. Again, with Laurence Gardner and all these guys coming to the front and the Art Bell’s et cetera who are meant to shape our minds, now they’ve got this date fixed in your head – see, this is the whole thing with religion and prophecy.

Prophecy is intended to make you feel impotent on changing something because you think it’s predestined and that’s what religion has always done for thousands of years is to convince you, "well, there’s no point changing it because, well, look it’s predestined, it’s god or it’s this or it’s that."

Jackie: So in other words the Mayan Calendar doesn’t end at 2012?

Alan: Not according to all the other guys. It’s only the undercurrent shortwave crew and the occult booksellers that are all related to the Nexus Magazine that have been pushing this stuff.

Jackie: But you know that it doesn’t?

Alan: Yes, because when you see government still making plans for the year 2021, and on and on it goes, well these guys aren’t–look, they’d be taking it seriously too, believe you me, if that were the case.

Jackie: I know but what really caught my attention or because I’ve read it so many times. I took it as, oh that must be so. That’s why I wanted the Mayan Calendar because I wanted to be able to see it for myself.

Alan: All mystery religions must go through (and Masonry does it too) where you say, "I am."  God says: "I am."  Who are you? He says, "I am what I am," and all Masons do the same.

In the Middle Ages it was the symbol of the "Bee," I be, "who be ye?"  "I be so and so," that’s how you'd reply.  Today it’s "I am," and Maya is just "I am" backwards. It’s the same old stuff rehashed.

Jackie: Does 2012 mean something to them?

Alan: It will to them because here’s the thing: Arthur C. Clarke who is one of the highest Masons, (along with Stanley Kubrick who gave us Eyes Wide Shut and a whole bunch of Masonic movies), put out 2001 and 2010 the two movies. He put out the first one in the 1960's and used the same camera crews and computer generated space shots that NASA used pretending they were going to the moon. In 2001, it gives you the Mystery Religion of the high occult in a story form, which really has nothing to do with space. That’s the exoteric story; so the beginning of the New Age for them for the last part of the mission, of the Great Work, was to begin in 2001.

9/11 happened in 2001. It was to end in 2010 when a new sun would appear in the sky and "as above, so below," a new one is presented on earth, which means in their terminology either they’ll bring forth a new clone or a new king of the world or something. 2010 was when the big presentation was to happen in High Masonry.

Jackie: What do you know about then the 2012 date?

Alan: That’s just a misnomer for again all the people who are following this on the exoteric level and who gorge these books up as fast as they’re turned out.

Jackie: Okay, well the reason I’m asking this because there was a Diebold Commission setup. I don’t know, this has been probably eight, nine years ago.

Alan: I know what the guy said.

Jackie: And the Diebold Report, I’ve got actual photocopies of their report and Ross Perot was on that commission, by the way, if anybody today thinks Ross Perot was "patriot," but the Diebold Report ends – basically what it does is it projects outward what’s going to happen between the year such-and-such to such-and-such and finally it says the U.S. Supreme Court will rule, and I don’t even remember. I’d have to get it out to see, the ending date of the Diebold Report was 2012.

Alan: In their system they have to have, number one, to have the amalgamated Americas totally running as one. They have to have – well, the European Union is already done. That was all written about by Karl Marx in the 1840's that this would happen, because he worked for the bankers. Then you have the Pacific Rim conglomerate; they'll still have to pick a capital for them. They want us all to be as one. They want a world government to be up running and openly declaring itself world government. Now it’s doing it; it’s just not openly declared. They also want a new type of system, a completely new type of system working, so we have to go through crisis after crisis until we’re so weary of real and fake crisis that we’ll accept gladly the new system that’s to be brought in, which is a scientifically designed and controlled society.

Jackie: Alan, we’re going to take a break here in just a few seconds. We’ll be right back, folks, with Alan Watt. Stay with us. All right, folks, we’re back with Alan Watt and we were talking – the year 2012, you don’t know of any particular meaning it has for them?

Alan: See, they’ve run the world and we get stuck on these things they put out for us on the new age bookshelf.

Jackie: I know, but you always tell us—

Alan: Here’s what I’m going to say, is that they’ve always had timetables to implement different parts all down through history. If you want to look at how it runs, the UN is the place to look because the UN runs on the same Soviet style system of where they’ll say, "we want the water supply under our command in 20 years."  They'll have a 20-year plan for that part. They want the whole agriculture of the planet under their arm by 2000 and whatever, so they’ll have a 40-year plan for that. That’s how the Soviet system works.

They even had 100-year plans and it’s the same thing. It’s an ongoing plan. It’s what they call "The Never-Ending Story," that’s why they put it into the movie. It’s The Never-Ending Story – that man himself is infinitely malleable and the building material, and those with the understanding and knowledge of science have the right to keep going as far as they can go with him.

A Never-Ending Story and the elite have said for the last 100-odd years openly in the books they write themselves, that nobody reads because it’s too boring, but they have told us where they’re taking us with the genetic modification. They have the Bioethics Committees, which is the new term they use for eugenics

Jackie: Oh yes, bioethics.

Alan: It’s a nice user-friendly term you see.

Jackie: It is, isn’t it?

Alan: Of course it’s eugenics, the same thing that we've seen down through the ages with the measuring of the cranium, all of this kind of stuff. Measuring your ears to see, oh my God, this guy might be a criminal when he grows up, and all this kind of stuff. It’s the same pseudo-science and they plan on creating a purpose-made society. It’s in all the scientific magazines. The bioethics committees publish their own documentation on all of this.

They’re having one at Oxford University right now on this very subject. They call it bio-enhancement and it’s the same thing. It’s about how to improve the human race basically and of course – longevity. Well, obviously, since this group also controls the depopulation program for society, they’re not going to give longevity to everybody. It's to be the contrary; they’re killing off the excess working people and they’ll give the longevity to the scientific elite.

You can trace this all the way back to Plato in his Republic. He was a member of the Mystery Schools in his day and he talks about the perfect world state with the guardians at the top, the dominant minority, and then the helping society of the guardian class who are the scientific groups and so on. Then, all of the types down below them that will be specially-bred for their purpose of work; and that’s exactly the same plan that's on the go today. It’s never changed.

We’re talking not just a 15 or 10-year plan. We’re talking about a 1,000, 2,000, 2,500-year plan for that part of it. This is an ongoing Great Work they call it in Masonry. Now we are at the end of the phase where they have to get rid of the old society where you sort of go to school and to an extent you pick what kind of job you want to do. That’s too messy for them. It’s just not efficient enough. The new society must be completely efficient and they will literally breed people for their task that they’ll have to perform throughout their life. That’s to be the new society. They’re well on their way, actually.

Jackie: School to work is a big part of that.

Alan: That’s the Soviet. They took the whole Soviet system and experimentation that was done and proved it and brought it here and it’s in place right now. Therefore, if they want you right now to be a motor mechanic, they’ll take you at five years of age and give you the basics that you’d have to know to be a motor mechanic. No history, geography or anything. You won’t need that.

Jackie: You know in talking about this, it's happened to me also. For example, school to work. When you find out that they’re going to train them for a particular positions and you don’t disbelieve it, but somehow, Alan, it doesn’t seem to like you know register.  I’ll tell you what happened here and this has been probably nine years ago. There’s a factory–I’m in Tioga County, Pennsylvania here. It’s a large area of land with about–I think the population is maybe 40,000 or something. Well, right here in Tioga County is the seventh poorest county in the State of Pennsylvania. There is a factory about eight miles from where I live and it is owned by the Japanese and there was a huge newspaper report about this factory. They didn’t use the word "school to work" but that they are training the children today in the schools to be ready to go to work in that factory, but they have to have certain skills and they’re training them for the skills to be able to work in that Japanese factory.

Alan: You see what they did and again it’s all the United Nations. The United Nations want the human habitat areas, which have been set up for a while, and to be self-sustaining communities, so your work will be in the local – it’s like a factory town like they had in the 1800's throughout the U.S.

Jackie: Reading that really brought it home to me. To see it actually being done right there in our own neighborhood.

Alan: Everything is run on a system of economics in this fake artificial system and we have a fake economic system to begin with. It isn’t a natural system so everything which it spawns must be more deviant than itself and that’s why we’re rushing toward the ultimate deviancy in everything. It keeps multiplying itself into more devious areas because its foundation is rotten and deviant to begin with. This whole economic system is unnatural. It can only spawn more unnaturalness until you have total deviancy and ultimately you have some kind of system which is totally inhumane, in fact it's anti-human, and that’s what we’re seeing.

They at the top call it efficiency. Now we know that the elite themselves have written about it themselves, like Charles Galton Darwin and others. Bertrand Russell, Lord Bertrand Russell and many of the top boys who worked for the establishment wrote about it and said that the elite themselves will not genetically alter themselves, but they'll do all the genetic alternations on the working people.

Jackie: Well, because he said the subjects must have a master.

Alan:   There’s no doubt about it. These people have never given – I mean Democracy was just a con game to fool the public. "Democracy" has many meanings and the ones at the top have is nothing like the ones at the bottom. It’s the same with Communism. Lenin said it. He said, to the mob, he said, we’ll give them an ideal of Communism for the workers and for the middle ones at the management level we give them a different version of Communism and we give the scientific version of Communism to the Politburo class. It’s the same old con game down through the ages. There are no sides to this.

Communism and capitalism are just the two antipodes, the two opposing forces, to create the third way; and today they’ve all come together. Without Communism they couldn’t have created the massive bureaucratic multi-layered strata to manage us all. That was really what Socialism was all about, and I think it was Khrushchev himself who said that "Communism was just Socialism in a hurry." That’s what he said. We’re all under the Socialist bureaucratic system of experts and Lenin said it too in the beginning of the 1900's. He said, towards the end of the millennium going into the next, he said, will come a stage of over-regulation where things will be so over-regulated they become inefficient, as multi-layered bureaucracies step over each other and step on each other's toes.

Jackie: And that’s intentional, the chaos?

Alan: It’s all to create the chaos.

Jackie: Alan, you’ve quoted Zbigniew Brzezinski in his book, Between Two Ages, and the subtitle – I have the book, by the way, America’s Role in the Technetronic Era. He explains "technetronic" as technical and electronic, so he made up that word evidently. I would like to share with our listeners and then I want you to comment on this. This is in the very first chapter. He says:

Speaking of a future at most only decades away – and when was the book written, in the ‘70's? 1970. "Speaking of a future at most only decades away, an experimenter in intelligence control asserted." Now this guy he’s quoting this Charles DeCarlo in "Computer Technology," a book evidently. This is what he said:

"I foresee the time when we shall have the means and therefore, inevitably, the temptation to manipulate the behavior and intellectual functioning of all the people through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain."

Biochemical. Do you see or do we see a connection between—

Alan: It’s already happening.

Jackie: Well I know. The vaccines and the chemtrails.

Alan: What he’s talking about – yes, the chemtrails.

Jackie: Chemicals he’s saying.

Alan: You’ve got the chemtrails, which basically are full of metallic type particles. Patents came out in the 1950's on these chemtrails on the very thing in conjunction with HAARP and scalar technology, and therefore the victims are the ones who breathe this stuff in. It’s in the food. It’s in the water. You become charged basically. You take out these metal particles and become a better receiver. You’re like a walking antenna and therefore the technetronic warfare equipment can beam out signals, which then affect your body and they alter the chemistry of your body.

Jackie: They mention manipulating – I’ve got this highlighted. "Life seems to lack cohesion as environment rapidly alters and human beings become increasing manipulable and malleable." Just shape us like a piece of clay.

Alan: Absolutely and it’s a takeover of the mind. If you have the mind of the people, you have the body, you see, and that’s what it’s all about and it’s an old, old plan. Bertrand Russell also talked about it, where the public wouldn’t even know it was being done to them and once it was fully effective they’d have no memory of basically what had gone before; and that’s happening today.

People are losing memory very quickly. They have no long-term memory. It’s all short-term and very short at that, but the technetronic warfare–see, this stuff, here’s how it ties in with the cell phones.

There was a recent documentary on the CBC on the National, it was a few weeks ago, about a new syndrome, a medical syndrome of people who are hypersensitive to the microwave bursts of cell phones and cell phone towers and they showed you a visual of a place in Toronto with all these little cell phone towers. Most of them are so small you can’t see, but they’re up on buildings, they’re everywhere. Really, as we know, it was already mentioned in Homeland Security, that cell phones can be tracked everywhere. It’s part of the tracking mechanism. Well, the new I.D. card that’s coming in, which has an active chip with you DNA and voice print and iris scan, all that stuff, that also will be stimulated and give off a signal to these infrared cell towers that are all over the cities and towns, so they’ll be able to track you wherever you go in that city, even into back allies, wherever. It’s a tracking mechanism.

Once they go a step further, which is to come, because the Loyola University talked about the brain chip being ready. It’s actually ready to go and the regional computers which will program the recipients, we'll be programmed like the Borg on Star Trek series, they’re all set up and ready to go and they said all they have to do is convince the public to accept these chips. Now they’ll do a tremendous barrage of chaos from now until they bring it out to us to accept it, and then Oprah will come on and tell us how wonderful it is and all that kind of stuff.  The technology to track everyone and basically beam instructions into your chip, which will then affect your body, your brain chemistry and everything, it’s all up around us waiting to go already through the microwave technology. It’s already set up to do so.

These guys don’t miss a trick. They’re way, way ahead of what the public knows and these cell phone towers, there’s thousands of them in every city you know. Some of them are only a couple of feet high.

Jackie: And a lot of them are camouflaged. Some of the look like palm trees in the southern states.

Alan: They even put one above a school entrance on the main building because they’re paying them so many dollars to put up these little towers you know.

Jackie: Oh my God.

Alan: They put it behind the school sign.

Jackie: I wonder how many children – school children have cell phones today, Alan.Lots of them. I know a lot of them do.

Alan: I know. The MP3 players and the iPods and they have the Blackberry that’s an Internet cell phone, everything all in one, and of course it’s a status symbol with the parents--

Jackie: They can watch movies on cell phones now.

Alan: Yes, I know.

Jackie: Did you know that?

Alan: Yes, and you’ve got to have your cultural brainwashing one way or another through much music and that’s how they give us culture, or a lack of it. Everything is set up for this and it’s been discussed at world meetings and the Loyola University published 600 pages on this with the top scientific experts from all over the planet there, scientists and microchip specialists and biologists, and they said it’s already to go. This chip is actually well tested. I mean it’s perfected. I’m sure they were testing it many, many years ago on unsuspecting people and it’s got a coating on it which will integrate with your nervous system, so you couldn’t even just cut it out easily; it will send little tendrils into your nervous system and intertwine with them, so it’s a very, very advanced.

Jackie: Sometimes when we talk, I feel such a deep sadness and I feel like I want to scream to people, get out of the city. If you can get out of the city, get out of the city.

Alan: Well, the cities are where, as Plato said, they create the beehive because nothing is natural within a city; therefore it’s the easiest place to alter culturally and speed up into this strange work called "progress" that no one wants to define, except the High Masons you know. In other words, you can do whatever inside a city and of course we’ve seen all that in our own lifetimes how they can pervert anything in a city so easily and the public go along thinking it’s all quite natural. They’ll be the first ones to take all the chips, the tracking chips and all the rest of it.

Jackie: Even if they don’t, Alan, the people in the city. Lets say that people who are listening to the broadcast, people who are much more aware than the average person. When you live in the city, you are so bombarded that it’s almost like you don’t have a chance. You don’t have a chance.

Alan: I mean personally, I can’t go near a city now. I feel the buzz off it miles before I come near it.

Jackie: The last time I went to St. Louis and Chuck drove me to Columbus and Jody and her boyfriend came half way and picked me up and took me there because I didn’t want to make the thousand mile drive by myself. Anyway, we got into Cleveland, we had to go through Cleveland and I looked around and I said oh my God, Chuck, look. Everything is cement and brick and pavement and there’s nothing real here, and it almost felt like I could feel myself shriveling, like you’re shriveling up inside and God I feel so sorry for people in the cities.

Alan: Yet, after watching what happened in New Orleans, I think it should be a lesson to everyone that if you caught in a city in a disaster or a food shortage or a real or phony outbreak where you’re probably dependent on supplies coming in – well, we saw what happened in New Orleans. It’s the last place you want to be is in a city situation.

Jackie: You know in the book Between the Two Ages, I made a note at the side here. There was a footnote and there was a comment here a book called, Why Is Man Aggressive, Impact of Science on Society argues that "population growth crowding and social oppression all contribute to irrational and intensified aggression. Experiments on rats seem to bear this out. Observation of human behavior in modern cities seem to warrant a similar conclusion."

Alan: That’s why they created the large cities, to get that kind of behavior going.

Jackie: Right, and it isn’t that people are themselves inherently aggressive. It is the environment.When you’ve got all these microwave towers, I mean there’s nowhere to escape from the cities, Alan.

Alan: People are not meant to live on top of each other.

Jackie: They live in the 'burbs,' the same thing.

Alan: You see it’s an artificial creation and they knew this thousands of years ago at Nimrod what to create the artificial city. That’s why it’s--

Jackie: Look at the story of Joseph. It says right in that story that he gathered up the people from the country and brought them into the cities.

Alan: Because the city is where you’re now the master. They’re the servants and you can literally teach them anything and experiment with all kinds of behavior and make any behavior normal. That’s a fact. Any behavior can be made normal in an artificial setting.

Jackie: It isn’t that any of us really escape it, you know, because even as rural as we are, we still have the chemtrails.

Alan: You get loaded with it.

Jackie: And that’s doing God only knows what. We’re just not as subjected to the array of "biotechnical" manipulation of the brain.

Alan: In that CBC documentary on this new syndrome of cell phone tower syndrome, they showed you a visual as you were standing in this part between different skyscrapers and they showed you the visual bursts of microwave from all these towers everywhere and if you were standing in the middle you were getting totally bombarded with this. Now this is an energy pulse, remember.

You’re getting dosed with energy pulsations and at a specific frequency and this does not bode well. The human organism is not meant to handle this and yet the guys who put this up know what it’s ultimate effects will be. They know this stuff. They’re not waiting to see what happens. They knew years ago how it worked on people, so they know what they’re doing is programming the people.

Jackie: The question in my mind and maybe there isn’t an answer, why some of us just had to leave cities. I remember when – because I lived in Chicago and St. Louis and when I moved to Illinois and started by business in Springfield, I built my home 50 miles away and I promised because I was so grateful to be able to live away from cities. I will never complain about the drive and even though I was in farm land and out in the woods et cetera when people would say, oh, it’s so beautiful here, you know what I would say, Alan? If I had my druthers I’d be somewhere out in the country on a farm. It’s like it was a yearning inside of me and I know that a lot of our listeners and especially a lot of the shortwave listeners, some of them go out to where they don’t even have electricity. So it’s almost like birds of a feather flock together.

Alan: I know, I know and that's what it’s coming down to is those who understand innately, probably, a lot of them, that they need the country. They need the stars at night. They need the nature around them you see because that’s your natural setting. You weren’t born thousands of years ago, or millions – you weren’t born into the concrete jungle. You were born under the stars or under the sun and that’s nature you see, and the way we’re going is a planned direction by an elite, which is totally artificial; and as I say, something which is deviant to begin with can only spawn more deviancy, which technically is our hell ultimately.

Jackie: Our hell. We’re out of our hour and you’re coming back with us tomorrow night?

Alan: Yes.

Jackie Patru: Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen.  Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  This is Wednesday, today.  It is the [22nd] of March, in the year 2006.  ...And Alan Watt is with us again.  Alan, thank you for being here tonight.

Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie: Thank you.  And it’s snowing in Northern Canada.  Well, we’re supposed to get snow tomorrow.  And it’s still 30 degrees here and down into the 20s.  I was looking at the weather bug on the internet, and we’re supposed to have cold weather, pretty much for up until next week.  And it will get up into the 40s, but it will go down into the 20s at night, so it’s kind of chilly.

Alan: That’s how it’s been here.

Jackie: I was telling you, when you called me, I had found an article, actually it got emailed to me, okay.  And it said that this article, or this writing, or something is illegal.  And I hit the, the whole story was there.  But I hit the source, because I wanted to see where it came from, and it was a story out of the New York Times, Alan.  I mean, it was so ludicrous that I was shocked to see that this was written in the New York Times.  Some guy named Crichton or Crickton or something wrote it.  Basically, what he was explaining, and I read it once very quickly, but there was a study done, and whoever it was that had done this study, discovered that the lack of vitamin B12 could lead to heart disease.  And they patented that discovery. They patented a discovery and now it is illegal to talk about it or to write about it, because it is patented.  And according to the article, Alan, it’s already been challenged, and successfully in court.  I mean, in other words, that the courts have ruled that nobody else can do this study or, it’s just insanity.  And I know I wasn’t reading it wrong.  Well, in other words, the title of the article was that this article is illegal, because the author of the article, whoever wrote it, was talking about a patented idea that he wasn’t supposed to be discussing.

Alan: Well, it makes perfect sense in the control freak world that everything must be owned by the ones at the top.

Jackie: Even our thoughts and even our words.

Alan: That’s right.  And all of that is what political correctness is all about.  There’s many ways to introduce political correctness.  But tell them about that undercover sting operation, through all those bars in the Texas way.

Jackie: You tell them.

Alan: Well, what I heard was there was thirty-six bars and hotels raided in an undercover sting operation, and thirty people arrested for being drunk in public places, in the bars.

Jackie: That’s right.  And they said that allegedly it wasn’t to, it had nothing to do about protecting people’s rights.  This is what these people were told.  It was protecting the public.  The safety of the public.  Not your rights.  And even the people, this was in Texas, I don’t know where in Texas.  I don’t even know if I...

Alan: San something, yeah.

Jackie: San, oh, okay, whatever.  That even the people, listen to this.  People in hotel bars that were guests staying, registered guests in the hotel, that were not going to be driving, were still arrested, Alan.

Alan: So, it’s control freak time.  It’s so obvious, it’s the new freedom you see, as Mr. Bush said.  It’s the new freedom.  Freedom has to be redefined.  And so this is the new freedom.  It means, enjoy yourself, but not too much.

Jackie: Nah, it doesn’t mean enjoy yourself.  It means, live in fear.

Alan: Oh, yeah, sure.

Jackie: That’s what it means, in fear of us.

Alan: When you see armed SWAT teams coming into the bar, and smelling your breath, you know, that’s very friendly.  That’s your friendly policeman.

Jackie: You know, what they used to do is sit outside, you know, and hide some place, and trap people.  But now, going right in there and saying, okay.  Oh, and you know what they said.  Now, these are the authorities, statements by the authorities.  Bars are to go in and have a good time, not to get drunk.

Alan: Oh, I see.

Jackie: So, you Americans cannot get drunk anymore.

Alan: That’s the redefinition of the good time, now.

Jackie: That’s right.

Alan: Well, that’s what police are for.  It’s for control freak times.  And they’ve been hiring so many of them.  I guess they’ve got enough on the roads, as it is, you see.  So, as they keep hiring this army of police, they’ve got to find new things for them to do.

Jackie: You know what, they’re not finding.  This has all been in the plan, Alan.

Alan: Oh, I know.

Jackie: They’re not finding new things for the police to do.  And they’re calling the police in, and they’re getting the psychopaths and the sociopaths and the people who love power, so that they’ll go and ride roughshod over the people.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: Jeff is visiting.  And he was in watching the weather channel, just before we came on the air.  I’ve been on the computer a lot today, and I just, it occurred to me, that is why I could feel so edgy.  I don’t think it’s good sitting at a computer for long periods of time.  Not only that, you read all this stuff.  But I have been on edge, and I wondered, God, I wonder if they’re bombarding us with something.  You know, we’ve been talking about bio-chemical control, and chemtrails, and the vaccines, and how they can manipulate our emotions.  And I’ve been on edge all day long, and a cranky edge, you know what I’m saying.  And I got to wondering, you know, God, I wonder if we’re getting hit with something here, because, well, it’s me, I’m the only one.  But, you know, we’ve been talking about it on the air, and I thought, that would be just like them to say, okay let’s give them some.  You know.  But, anyway, he said that on the, remember, I told you that on the weather channel, they’ve got one program that’s called the weather makers.  And I haven’t watched the weather channel in a long time now.  You never know what the weather is going to be for the most part.  But anyway, several times, you’d hear this voice, under, you never saw the face.  "You’re watching the weather channel, live by it."  And he said, he saw the weirdest ad on the weather channel.  He said there were people standing outdoors, looking up at the skies, and he said the skies were lined with chemtrails.  It showed this right on the weather channel.  And then the voice said, do you know when the good weather is going to happen?  We do.

Alan: It’s in your face, isn’t it?

Jackie: I might start watching it.  I’d like to catch that.

Alan: Well, on the weather channel, as far as I know, I don’t have it, but what I understand, everything is a crisis.  You get a drop of rain, it’s going to be a flood, you know.

Jackie: Oh, you know what.  Never anything but floods and droughts, according to the weather channel.

Alan: It’s all crisis, crisis.

Jackie: And, you know, when they report on the weather channel that there’s terrible flooding in a certain area.  People have told me, they live there, and there were no floods.

Alan: It’s part of the hype and fear thing, you see.  And apparently the weather channel also tells you sometimes, which towns or areas have the flu, the common flu.  So, they’re already getting us hyped up for that, through these stations they’ve given us, that we think are there to serve us.  No, they’re there to create the hype, to condition you.

Jackie: Let me ask you a question.  I was talking to Jody, earlier.  Her boyfriend got very, very sick, suddenly, high fever, chills, a rash, etc.  He finally wound up going to the hospital, and they said he had the pox, chicken pox.

Alan: Oh, chicken pox, eh?

Jackie: Yeah, but he had had them when he was young.  But you can’t get them twice, you’re immune to them.  She said, but wait a minute mom, she said, they’re talking about a new kind of chicken pox, and now they’re giving chicken pox boosters, chicken pox boosters to the children, for the new chicken pox.

Alan: Well, it’s the new freedom, and it’s the new sobriety, and it’s the new chicken pox.

Jackie: Listen to this.  A friend of hers, their relative.  I don’t know if it was a brother in law, or whatever, came suddenly down with a virus, and was dead in five days.  They’re having his funeral today, she said.  And they have no idea what the guy had.  I told her about.  I said, I want you to know this, so that you’re aware of it.  You know, this avian flu and etc.  And of course, I got going in it.  And then she goes, mom, I want to talk about something different.  It’s enough.  It’s enough.  Some people just don’t want to know, Alan.

Alan: Oh, I know.  They can’t handle the truth.  You know.  Most people cannot handle the truth.  And they won’t until the bitter end.  They’ll still be the same.  But you’re talking about the pox though, the chicken pox, you can get it again as an adult.

Jackie: I didn’t know that.

Alan: But generally what happens, it breaks out as shingles.  So, you get rashes around your rib cage, and so on.

Jackie: I did not know that, Alan.

Alan: However, if they’re giving booster shots, they could have evolved a different type, an upgraded form.

Jackie: That’s what I told her.  That if they’re giving boosters, you know, because reading about the vaccines, when you read that smallpox vaccination was actually made out of a cow pox, then they were just spreading disease.  And that’s what I told Jody.  I said, if they’re starting to give these children boosters for the chicken pox, there will be outbreaks of chicken pox going on.

Alan: Probably, because some of this stuff they’ve got now is hybrid.  They hybridize the viruses, you know, until they’re different strains.  But you know, we’re getting to a stage now, where you’ve got to be careful because there are even drugs out there from the pharmacy.  One of them, there’s one drug I think, it’s for skin cancer.  And a person I know got it, the drug.  And he didn’t have the same cancer.  It was some experimental treatment to see if it would work with arthritis.  And the little sheet that came with it from the pharmacy, on the warning, contraindications on it, it said, stay away from people, avoid people who’ve had recent polio shots because you may be susceptible to the polio.  Which tells you that the polio shot is shedding live viruses.  See, here’s where medicine, these theories don’t jive.  So, people are walking around shedding live viruses, and people are susceptible to catching it, if they’ve got a weakened immune system, or on certain medications which will weaken the immune system.  Something doesn’t jive here with the whole theory of the inoculations, you know.  So, yeah, we’re living in Disneyland.

Jackie: Something doesn’t jive.  I guess not, Alan.

Alan: That’s right.  And speaking of Disneyland, you know that Genesis broadcasting that gives us all our heroes, you know, they’re owned by the ABN News, ABN Station, or ABC?

Jackie: ABC.  American Broadcast.  ABC.  They’re an ABC affiliate, I think.

Alan: They are.  They’re owned by it.  And ABC is owned by Disney Corporation.  So, that’s why, that tells you who runs Genesis.

Jackie: And that tells you that anybody on Genesis is definitely going to be censored, and a lot of people don’t realize they’re being censored, because they’re allowed to say so much.  They’re not allowed to say certain things, and they will not say certain things.

Alan: Personally, I don’t think it’s that at all.  I think that’s their job is to give out what they’re supposed to give out.  And no more, no less, or no less of a spin, either.  But Disney, as you know, has been in the mind control business for many, many years, molding the brains of children.  And of course, now they’re just doing it in the adults, the same sort of thing.

Jackie: Yes.  Are you making a new video, another one?

Alan: I will be.

Jackie: Not yet.

Alan: I haven’t started it, but I know what I want.

Jackie: Well, I hope our listeners have gone in.  Have you gotten emails that people have found it, and?

Alan: Oh, yeah.

Jackie: Good.  What kind of comments?

Alan: Oh, it’s all really favorable comments.

Jackie: I got a, remember I said last night, that I had an email from one of our listeners in England.  Well, I got a really wonderful email from a man in Dublin.  And he said that people, he said that, you know, every country is in the New World Order, but he said, there are people waking up.  And he said that’s evidenced by conversations that you hear in bars.  And he said, whenever he gets in a conversation with people, he tells them to go to Sweet Liberty website, and they come to their own conclusions.  That’s wonderful.  I do appreciate hearing, well, from all of our listeners.  I don’t get a lot of, you know, email from listeners.  But it’s really uplifting to know that what you’re doing is making a difference for at least some people, Alan.  And as you said, you know, if there’s one person that is brought out of the lie, out of the system if you would, it’s a miracle and it’s a blessing.

Alan: Oh, absolutely.

Jackie: When we know that there have been more than just one, don’t we?

Alan: There have been lots.  There have been lots of them.  And that’s the key to it.  Generally, it’s someone who has been questioning, and they don’t have the answers, but they’re questioning, and when they hear someone else that’s a bit further forward, with the explanations, they can catch on quick.  And then they in turn can then pass it on to other people, you know.  But you’ve got to be selective in who you spend time with, because I call the people who don’t want to hear the dead.  And you don’t want to expend energy trying to make people wake up.  There’s no point.  They have to have started the process themselves.  Even if they’re only asking what really is going on, that’s a start, you know.  And really, I mean, with everything that’s happening today, I’m still astounded that people are still asleep.  I am, you know.

Jackie: Well, it just proves, Alan, you know, I think, I remember when I was getting the information together on the fluoride in the water, and reading Major Jordan’s thing that he had done on it.  And actually, here in the States they started it in towns that were near military bases, Alan, that originally, when they started using the fluoride.  Because it does create an apathetic, an apathy.  That’s what’s mind boggling to me, like you said, it’s amazing to you that everybody hasn’t awakened, but, you know, when you show people, and I know I’m being redundant here, but when you show people the poison warning on fluoride toothpaste, the tubes.  You know, keep away from children under six.  And if you swallow more than enough for brushing, seek medical help or contact a poison center.  It’s right there.  They’ll look at it, and they’ll say, I didn’t know that, and they keep using it, Alan.

Alan: They’re so conditioned; you see, people who are socialized truly believe they’re being well managed by experts.  They really do believe that.  And what they’ll say is, well, they, you know, the big "They," they would never give it to us if it was really harmful.  That’s what they believe.  It’s the same with the soya products.  I mean, for donkey’s years they kept hyping up soya, how great it was, and of course, soya has been used since the days of Thomas Malthus, because they’d feed that to their slaves, you know, on plantations, and it literally turns the testosterone into estrogen in males, and makes them docile.

Jackie: So it creates femininity.

Alan: It makes them docile.  And now, soya byproducts are in everything now.  Everything.  Even candies.

Jackie: And one thing I did read, that the only reason that soy is used, and safely in Japan, is that they ferment it first.  So, it evidently kills all of the properties that affect the hormone system.

Alan: Well, what it is, it’s the outer meat they use of the soya bean.  Because the stuff that alters your testosterone if you’re a male is in the center.

Jackie: Is in the center?

Alan: It’s in the center of it.  But the companies here, of course, they crush all of it, and use all of it.  You see.

Jackie: And people, and the vegetarians, vege-meats that are made out of soy.  The whole thing, I know.

Alan: That’s why they can sing soprano, you know.  But that’s what they use.  That’s also added to all the prisoners in some of the US states to their meals, by law in Texas.  I think it’s Texas, 40% towards their meat products, they’ll have up to 40% soya, added to it, and the guards are told that, that it’s to basically alter their testosterone level and turns it to estrogen to make them more pliable and easily managed.

Jackie: Sort of like when we neuter our male dogs.

Alan: That’s right.  So, drugs have been used for thousands of years actually, on slaves and so on.  And there’s nothing new under the sun, really.  Aldous Huxley, who worked for the Tavistock Institute, and who wrote Brave New World, and then the sort of follow-up documentary style, Brave New World Revisited, and who was all for this whole agenda, and he was one of the elite of course, said, What’s wrong with drugging the population to make them happy, and easily managed?  He said, after all, they’ll be happier, the authorities will be happier, and there’ll be less commotion.

Jackie: And there will be peace.

Alan: He said, it will get rid of this troublesome individuality, he said.  People will be more uniform, you see.

Jackie: There will be peace in the world, Alan.

Alan: That’s right.  As George Orwell said, when there’s no-think, then there’s peace.  Yeah, no-think.

Jackie: I would like to do this, and this is way off the subject.  We’re going to take a break in about five minutes.  Remember the tincture, that I told you, that the lady at the health food store.  I want to share this with our listeners.  Because, it really made a difference.  I’ve still got a lot of congestion in my lungs, but it isn’t.  It’s coming up.  It’s constantly being brought up and out.  And Alan, before, when I would cough, there would be just nothing, and the pressure, the pressure, the internal pressure was so great that I’d hold my head, it hurt so bad.  And it actually, the morning after I started taking this, I actually woke up and just coughed and coughed and coughed up phlegm.  And I wake up in the mornings now.  I mean, I still cough in the morning, because, you know, it accumulates during the night, it comes up.  But I don’t wake up with the wheezing, like I can barely take a breath until I start coughing this stuff out.  And folks, if you would get a pen, or a pencil, and a piece of paper.  This stuff is really easy to make, and using it, in fact, she’s got some more astragalus root ordered, because I’m going to make another batch and keep it on hand.  It will keep forever, Alan.  You know, your tinctures are made with 80 proof alcohol.  Folks this is a combination of three herbs, and one of them is astragalus root, and it’s cut and filtered.  Roxy told me that she only knows of one company that makes it, and it’s on back order for her.  But you can get the astragalus root and break it up, but this stuff that she used in the tincture, is cut and filtered.  And she said, probably filtering it means they just get the dust off it, so it turns into looking like leaf.  And it’s one part astragalus root, and one part olive leaf, olive leaf, and she used two parts mullein in hers.  And the reason so, is because she had kind of an asthmatic condition.  And the mullein is a lung cleanser, so to speak.  It’s for the health of the lungs.  And if you don’t have, at the present time a lot of congestion, I suppose you could make it with one part of each.  But anyway, she said, if you were using like a half a cup of astragalus root, half a cup of olive leaf, use a full cup of mullein, and you get an 80 proof alcohol.  I used a brandy because that’s what Roxy used in hers.  And you put it in a jar.  You put enough of the alcohol in that it’s covered.  But you will find out that as the dried mullein and the olive leaf begins to absorb, you’re going to have to wind up adding more alcohol, because you want the alcohol to be over the top of your material there.  And then, all you do, is you put it in a jar, cover it, and once a day, you just shake it up a little bit.  Flip the jar upside down and back and forth a couple times.  And after 30 days, then you strain it into another jar, and you have a wonderful tincture.  And the astragalus root is an immune booster.  And I was talking to my doctor friend, Kevin Imhoff.  A couple or three years ago, he told me this Alan, that astragalus is even better than Echinacea as an immune booster.  The olive leaf is an antiviral.  And the mullein is to cleanse out the lungs and the respiratory tract.  So, if you’ve got that folks, I really would recommend that you get some of this material and make it and keep it, because, Roxy takes two tablespoons a day, one in the morning, and one at night, as maintenance.  And when I had that terrible congestion, I was taking a couple tablespoons, I took a couple tablespoons immediately, and then before I went to bed another, and in the morning, it started coming up.  But I was taking about four tablespoons a day, you know, throughout the day.  Anyway, I wanted to share this with our listeners.  I’ve been wanting to share this with our listeners, and I wrote it down tonight to do that.  And I think that it’s just about time, folks, at the half-hour break.

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Jackie: Hi, we’re back with Alan Watt.  And if you might’ve tuned in late, you are listening to Sweet Liberty.  I’m Jackie Patru, your hostess.  Alan Watt, more than a guest I think.  He’s become like a co-host on this broadcast.  We’ve done it together so many times and for so long.  I want to remind you too, folks, that Sweet Liberty does broadcast Monday through Wednesday, and Darren Weeks, which Darren is our webmaster, and Darren does the broadcast Monday and Tuesday.  I do the broadcast on Wednesday, and I want to encourage you to tune in all three nights.  Darren does his homework, and presents documented information, that, without the documentation or sources of the documentation, I think that some of this stuff we talk about is actually difficult to believe, but anyway, do tune in, Monday through Wednesday, not just on Wednesday night.

Alan, I wanted to share something with you.  I don’t know if I told you this, there was a, you know, we get these free newspapers around here.  And one of them is called the Penny Saver, well we get a couple or three free newspapers every week, or every couple weeks, or whatever it is.  But there was a little ad in here, listen to this.  It says "Dead or Alive: Pennsylvania Mountain Lion Reward.  $2,000."  For any of you in Pennsylvania, get your pen back again, would you.  Because you might like to be aware of this.  It says, call Jake Holme, and he’s got his home phone number and his work number in here.  And what he’s saying is help save the deer herd.  But anyway, they’re offering a $2,000 reward.  Now, I wondered how they could advertise this, Alan, given that of course, we’re told, you know, there’s a fine.  Because even though they don’t exist in this state, they’re protected.  And I asked him, first of all, he said, they’re just sick and tired of all the denials that there are mountain lions here in Pennsylvania.  And he said they aren’t Eastern Mountain Lions because they pretty much became extinct, and they are from the West, but they’ve been brought in.  And he said that he’s, in fact one of the state legislators here, a Senator, I think his name is Madigan or Kadigan or something like that, is trying to get some type of legislation introduced, and I’m not really sure what it’s all about, but Jeff called him, and then I got on the phone and spoke with him.  He said he’d keep me posted.  But, I said, how can you offer this $2,000 reward.  You know that could be the fine that somebody would pay.  He said, we want it dead or alive.  Anybody that sees and can get a mountain lion, a cougar.  But he said no, there is no law here.  He says, you are allowed to shoot a mountain lion if it is on your property, if it’s, you know, endangering your family, your pets or whatever.  And he said, there have been people that have shot them, and they don’t get fined, because they don’t want to be taken to court, because they don’t want the masses to really know that they’re here and that they have been reintroduced into Pennsylvania.

Alan: The rewilding.

Jackie: The rewilding, yeah.  But I thought that was pretty cool.  And the paper was laying here and it just, I thought I would share that with you and with our listeners.  So, people, well, he didn’t know about rewilding though.  It’s just people fed up with the insanity, Alan.  But anyway, I told him, do a search, in your search engine.  When I put rewilding project, I pulled up seven hundred and some articles.  So that was pretty cool, huh?

Alan: Yeah, what gets me, is that if people just sat and thought about it logically, like if you’re a tenant in a building, and the landlord brings another tenant in and puts him in your room, you’d be pretty upset, because you haven’t given up your notice, and you haven’t even thought of leaving until then.  Well, that’s what they’re doing to the public.  They’re rewilding the rural areas with animals for the future, for this idealistic future, that they’re already creating, when there’ll be nobody left on the rural areas.  They’ll all be in these chokey, smoky habitat areas.  And that’s the gall of these guys.  They’re actually fixing up for the future, while we’re still living in the country, you know.  How disgusting.  They’re so arrogant, you know.

Jackie: And when we were first talking about this, a long time ago on the air, a lady from Wisconsin contacted me, sent me newspaper articles, and in a State Park in Wisconsin, it was a newspaper article, they re-introduced rattlers, rattlesnakes, Alan, so then people can’t go picnic in the park.

Alan: That’s to scare the mothers.  The mothers will say, we don’t want to go there.  It’s around your house, well let’s get out of here.  Let’s go somewhere safe.  And it’s all to scare the people off the rural areas, that’s why they’re doing it.

Jackie: Yes, of course, yes, yes, yes.

Alan: I heard they released wild haggis in Scotland.

Jackie: What’s haggis?

Alan: Well, apparently the Scotsmen ate it.  It’s a traditional meal there.

Jackie: Oh, Alan.

Alan: I’ll let you look that one up.

Jackie: So, that was a joke you just told me?

Alan: That was a joke there.  I can see 10,000 people checking up on the internet to see what a haggis is.  It’s actually a three-legged bird that runs around the mountains, and that’s why it has a third leg, to keep a hold, you see, so it doesn’t fall down.  But no, the Scotsmen ate it.  So, they caught it and ate it.

Jackie: Okay. Now, you were born in Scotland, weren’t you?

Alan: Yes, I was.

Jackie: How long did you live in Scotland before you left?

Alan: Oh, quite a few, well, I was moving, I went to different countries even in my late teens.  I’d visit them before I went to live in different countries.

Jackie: Oh, but you actually grew up in Scotland then.

Alan: Oh, yeah.  I survived it, yeah.

Jackie: You survived it.  You know, I was telling somebody what you had shared with me one time, that in Scotland, and this probably was long ago, but you said that there was a huge, or a deep, deep, deep hole.  They had no idea how deep it was.  And when any adult abused, sexually abused a child, they were just thrown into that hole.

Alan: That was traditional. When the people, the locals had proof, that was it.  There was no bureaucracy or police or trials or social workers and rehabilitation.  It was just down the hole with them, you know.  And interestingly enough, there was a CBC special on recently, about pedophilia, and they talked to some of these guys in their 40s, 50s, and 60s even, who were now out into the community, and being, of course, closely monitored.  But one of them said, he says, I’ll never change.  He says, I can’t change.  He said, it’s an obsession, you know.  And so, it’s true enough.  It’s an obsession with them.  They’re very dangerous people, and they know it too.

Jackie: Well, there was an article about a man who had abused many, many children, raped.  And he begged them, they were going to release him, and he literally begged them not to, because he said he would do it again.  Or he said, at least castrate me, do something so that I cannot do this again.

Alan: Maybe they fed him soya.

Jackie: And they let him go, Alan.

Alan: I mean, they cannot stop it.  They haven’t found a method of treating them, you know.

Jackie: Somebody asked me, when I was telling them about what you told me.  Evidently they had tried to do some research on it, and this was some time ago, and they asked, well, when you’re talking to Alan, would you ask him if he could give more information on that because they wanted to actually see if they could verify it.

Alan: What was it though?  On what?

Jackie: About the hole.

Alan: That’s right.  It was a crevasse really, a deep crevasse in the Ettrick Forest.  And that was traditional.  I mean, they just dumped them down there.  Of course you could look down there with flashlights.  You’d never see the bottom of it.  It was very, very deep.  I don’t know how deep it really was.  But certainly, you couldn’t see anything with flashlights or anything.

Jackie: What was the time frame when that was going on?

Alan: That was still happening up into the 1900s.  And probably after that too.  And the locals all kept their mouth shut, you know, because that was the old way.  That was the old way.  Justice was done by the community.  In clan systems, there was still a tribal system there.  You didn’t need law, because your culture was the law.  Everybody knew the rules.  And anybody that broke them knew what the punishment would be.

Jackie: And children were well.

Alan: They could travel all over the hills and so on, and come home safely.  No one had to worry.  Mind you, they were not flooding.  They didn’t have TV, etc., to flood people’s minds with pornography all the time.  But yeah, they made short work of the pedophiles.

Jackie: And I suppose that would be hard for somebody to actually confirm and research, because it was more of a tribal thing.

Alan: Actually, it happened in more localities than just that.  Justice was swift.  In fact the law wasn’t light, at all, right into the 20th century, up in the highlands.  In fact, the people there looked upon the law as their enemy, traditionally.  Anybody in uniform, I mean, the highlands had been so persecuted for such a long time that the English law with uniforms, uniformity, one form, Masonic, they just did not like the police at all.

Jackie: Well, they were smart, Alan.  Because the laws are always so stupid.

Alan: Well, it’s not just that.  It’s that men in uniform are dangerous, because they do whatever they’re ordered to do.  And that’s just a fact.  It doesn’t matter if their country gets taken over, even by another country.  We saw that in France and different countries when Germany walked in.  The police just went to work the next day as usual.  And they do whatever they’re told to do.  They don’t care who their master is.  And it’s because of the type that goes into police forces.  These people are basically the school bullies.  They like to see the average person squirm when they’re asked for ID or whatever.  They get their kicks on that, you know.  And police have always been the same.  But in places like the Island of Skye, when people were getting moved off their land, it was the police forces that were sent out to do it.  And they beat the people, male and female with clubs and everything.  They were merciless.  So, the people in the highlands have a long memory of this kind of stuff.  You know, uniformity.  That’s why in Britain they had a healthy distance between themselves and even the military uniform.  Because the military all over Europe has always been turned on their own people.  Always.  And that’s what America hasn’t seen, yet, well actually it started...

Jackie: Well, they have, but they don’t see it, Alan.   Although, you know what.  I’ll bet you any amount of money, if you told people, that nine out of ten would say that they get the creeps, when, let’s say you’re driving.  You’re doing nothing wrong.  You’re not speeding.  But you get nervous as heck, every time you see a cop.  And I’ll bet, I’ll bet you that today that people, even the walking dead, in that aspect, I don’t think they see the police as our "protectors" anymore.

Alan: No.  Well, when you see them dressed in black with combat boots, you’re looking at an army.  That’s what you’re looking at.

Jackie: I know it.

Alan: And it’s very ominous.  And it’s going to be used on the public.  And those guys will use all the weaponry they’re given, and they will do whatever they’re told.  They never have faltered in history.  They’re not going to falter now.  This will repeat itself again.  It’s ominous.  They haven’t been built up into a huge internal army for no purpose.  There’s a purpose behind everything in this world that we live in.  It’s all planning.  Planning ahead for things to come, and they will be used for what they’ve been created to do.

Jackie: And you know, that’s what we should get real clear, and hopefully that our listeners do, is that what happened is not accidental.  It’s a long-laid plan.  They have their timeline.  And it’s the same, as you said, last night, that prophecies, the so-called prophecies in the Holy Bible and Revelations, it isn’t a prophecy, people who could see the future psychically.  It was written by those, the priesthood, or their minions, who have been in control down through the ages, and this was their plan.  We’re living it today.

Alan: Absolutely.  And they’ve laid the groundwork so perfectly this time.  Because, when they first brought in video games which were designed to train military, to desensitize them from killing.  And they gave those games to children.  And I said, twenty years ago, one day, I said, we’re going to create a generation of barbarians to go and do and fight in a war.  It was so obvious to me, and that’s exactly what they’ve done.

Jackie: I feel like I should have compassion, simply because of the, the I don’t know.  They somehow convince themselves, and their parents are so proud of them because they’re over there in Iraq and Afghanistan, fighting to keep us free.  And Alan, I can’t find the compassion, at least, that I feel that I should have, simply because I know they’re being used.  They’ve been.  It’s like you said on your video, you know, they knock our legs out from under us, and then ridicule us because we can’t get up.  And that’s the way it is with these young men and women.

Alan: We’ve got to realize too, you see, these people who go in in peacetime, when it’s a non-draft, these are voluntary.  They are voluntary mercenaries.  Let’s not kid ourselves here.  It’s always been this way from even Roman times.  Voluntary mercenaries.  And these guys get paid to go out and kill, you know.  That’s what a soldier does, no matter how much they try and whitewash it with this term Peacekeeper, this Orwellian doublespeak.  And then the fact is, it’s like Woodward and Bernstein wrote in their book about Kissinger.  When Kissinger told a group of the pressmen, including these two authors, he said that the American soldier is just a dumb stupid animal to be used for foreign policy.  Well, he was, Kissinger was telling the truth.  Because these guys have no idea about what the real long-term agenda of this is.  And what’s more, they don’t care.

Jackie: And they can go over there, and pull the trigger, and shoot.

Alan: It’s just another video game.

Jackie: And children and innocent citizens over there, Iraqis, unarmed.

Alan: Well, they’re taught, you see, they’re dehumanized, and they’re taught to call them ragheads and so on, and dehumanize them.  The same stuff they used in World War II, you know, and then of course with the “gooks”, in Vietnam.  And now it’s “ragheads”.  The same techniques are being used, again.  However, this generation is worse, because they were a purpose-made generation to be used now for war.  They were bred and brought up with the value of the State and the media, and much music and video games to do exactly what they’re doing.  They’re the bottom of the barrel.

Jackie: Yes, and then I think about that statement, I happen to have the book lying here, in Between Two Ages, where this one said that, I foresee the time when we shall have the means to manipulate the behavior and intellectual functioning of all people, through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain.  Somewhere, that has to have happened to these people.  These young people who can go over there, or not so young, because a lot of them have actually re-enlisted.  And just go over there. But, Alan, somehow they’ve convinced themselves that they’re over there fighting for our freedom.

Alan: Well, that’s why Kissinger said they’re dumb stupid animals.

Jackie: And they should be heroes.

Alan: They don’t know what the real story is, and what’s more they don’t....

Jackie: But I’m saying that’s why there should be some compassion.

Alan: Well, I can’t.  You know, I can’t...

Jackie: Well, I haven’t been able to either.

Alan: Because, I mean, if I see a dog that goes rabid, I don’t hate the dog because now it’s gone rabid.  However, I’m still very wary of the fact that it’s now rabid.  And that’s how I see these soldiers.

Jackie: But, see, you could have compassion for that dog.

Alan: I could.

Jackie: Because it’s a disease.

Alan: And I know that it was a normal dog before it happened.

Jackie: We might have to shoot the dog, you know, to avoid, you know, being bitten and stuff, or just because he’s going to die anyway, but there would be compassion there.  And it feels to me, like there’s something missing here.

Alan: Well, there is something missing.

Jackie: I mean, for me, that I can’t, I can’t see the wrongness of it and still feel compassion for the insanity that these people have been living.  And if it’s biochemical manipulation of their brain, it’s sort of like you said.  Knock the legs out from under us, and then ridicule us, because we can’t get up.  That’s kind of how I see these people who go over there.  They don’t have a damn clue, Alan.

Alan: And they don’t want to know.  That’s what Kissinger was saying.  He says they’re dumb stupid animals, because they don’t even inquire into the real reasons.  Any superficial reason will do.  And I was watching a program on the CBC here, when they were sending Canadian troops off, and there was one sergeant there, and he was getting ready to board the plane and say goodbye to his family, and they asked him how he felt going over there.  He says, ‘oh, I’m happy to go,’ he says.  ‘I’m a soldier.  That’s what I do.  I go wherever I’m sent.’  What he’s telling you is, he didn’t care about the reasons given.  He just goes and does what he’s told to do, and he’s happy to do it, you know.  Well, that same guy, if they put a black uniform on him, and bring him back home, once again, he’ll do exactly what he’s told to do.  And we better remember that.  I mean, there are psychopaths out there too.

Jackie: That young soldier, what was his name, Michael New.  Remember Michael New?  He was a hero, because he said he wouldn’t wear a UN uniform.  And when I was talking to his dad, and we said, well, you must be very proud of him.  And he says, well, we told him, that’s what they were going to do.  He said, Michael will go anywhere in the US military and serve proudly, served proudly in the Gulf War, but he will not wear the UN uniform.  So, what’s so heroic about that?

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: But he has been held up, for years.

Alan: As a hero.

Jackie: By many, many people as a hero.  And I believe that Michael was brainwashed by his family to do exactly what he did, so that he would become this hero.  I don’t know what was behind it.  But I do know that that was a manipulated thing.  And he was being used.

Alan: And young men, let’s be honest, young men who are 18 to 20 are stupid.  You see.

Jackie: But see, his dad said, I told Michael, one of these days they’re going to ask you to put on the UN uniform.  And if you do that, you’re going to come home indistinguishable from all the others.  So, see, Michael had been fed and fed and fed to him, but his dad was a member of the Birch Society.  You know, that’s their whole scam, get us out of the UN, and phony conservative, the biggest and one of the first, and so therefore the UN was the issue, see.  But I see, by what his father said that Michael was just set up for that.  He was set up for it.

Alan: Well, again, a lot of parents are pretty dumb.

Jackie: His dad wasn’t dumb, trust me.  His dad was just a climber and just a pawn for the Birch Society.

Alan: But in general, as I say, all these troops who are 18 to 20, they’re pretty stupid, because young men don’t even know who they are at that age.  And they don’t even know history.  They have no idea.  And they don’t even know current history.

Jackie: We just had our 60 second warning, and I heard it, and ladies and gentlemen, we are just about out of our hour here.  I want to remind you that Alan’s website, cuttingthroughthematrix.com, you’ll want to visit it.  You definitely will want to watch the video, and take a look at the excerpts from the three books that he’s written, Cutting Through the Matrix, or Cutting Through.  I think it’s Cutting Through the BS, don’t you, Alan?

Alan: It certainly is.

Jackie: We’ll be back with you next Wednesday.

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